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Sorry but he can not hold our hand.
In layman terms......
Yes, but maybe next vote................
Very interesting ......still digesting.
Don't mean to deviate from the topic of WAMUQ, but I would just like to say thank you to all our wonderful veterans! Without you and your fight for the freedoms we enjoy and take for granted, we would not have the ability to do what we are doing now. Please enjoy one of the best expressions of the displaying our flag that I have seen.
888-7238504...option 1 have account # ready
Sorry, then i do not have a clue what to tell ya.
Call your broker.
I am faxing because they needed ballot by the 11th.
Call 888-723-8504 option 1 and talk to personally.
Finally received ballots ,called TD Ameritrade and told to fax to 402-970-8481 Attention Leah Blake.Then call 888-723-8504 and ask for Leah Blake to confirm my vote verbally.
Called Scottrade local office and told i could either fax or hand deliver.Hope this helps.
Lighten up or go talk to Sarge.[Grinns]
And it is just part of doing business!
EXACTLY,Well said!
Reread post that is not my comment.
What's left to debate.
The EC dropped the ball and the last whisp of hope from the IE did not find anything to send a message that there is still hope do please explain what, if anything, more letters or debated will do to recluse this sinking ship!
Just wondering
Nash
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I have the utmost respect for our counsel and the great DD done by this and other boards Just call me delusional if you wish!
Sincerely,Steelheader7
It is to my understanding per the WAMU rep at KCC that the ballots mailed can only be ones which you received (that is if you received anything) because each ballot is coded to a specific shareholder via their individual broker. The broker then forwards the votes.
It's disturbing how many people do not have voting materials yet. For instance, per Zecco, they need all ballots returned to them by Nov 8th so they can be processed and forwarded in a timely manner. How in the hell do you mail something you don't have?
I'm getting lots of emails from the Germans asking for help for the very same issue...
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Luv2shop;
Yeah, they will probably get there's next month. And no i
don't think this is accidental! Thank you for all your work!
Doesn't look like there is a ballot in those pdfs.
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Joshfm;
I have 2 accounts with Scottrade and 2 accounts with TD Ameritrade and identical information from both. Live on west coast and still nothing in mail.I f don't get nothing by tomorrow i will get on phone.I have voted by phone and computer on other stocks in past but did not involve bankruptcy.Hard to believe you should have to pay to vote but would not be first time i was wrong about something.
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AGREED!
Steel -- This seems to be against what JMW was looking for from examiner. Without going back to get exact quotes, I thought that since there were so many roadblocks to discovery being completed, she decided to appoint examiner and demand that everyone give him what was needed. Using that train of thought, wouldn't it be safe to assume that JMW is not expecting this case to go back to basically square one (fuller version of the debate)? I think she expected to look at report and see if equity was/could be in the money. If so, make a settlement. If not, approve POR. So the question begs, where does JMW think this report leaves us? I am now of the opinion that law doesn't even matter in this case anymore. No prediction of what will happen, but whatever it is, it will be because JMW has had enough. Either she will say there is no proof equity is in money so stop trying or she will say that she has not gotten cooperation, so get something done very soon
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Steel58
I gotta believe JMW is peod with report and with herself on restraints she put on examiner. This is one big can of o'worms.
Well, the exmainer report may not be the end of us....but seriously, Susman and Solomen need to come up with something good and fast.
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I honestly believe they will or myself as most would not be here.IMO
UZUALSUZPECT;
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The report puts the story on paper and provides a context for debate. It is the duty of the parties to formulate a fuller version of the debate using the rules of evidence."
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The last couple sentences says a lot! IMO
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Have you all seen the commercial about "Chase picks up the tab"? See how they do that? I think they're a little misdirected, lol.
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Washington also and nothing yet.I have TD Ameritrade and Scottrade.
Maybe in mail today.
Well said!
Thank you Strikeeagle
I am not disagreeing with your concerns , i believe it will come out in do time.
Steel,
I want to agree but if the asset list is the fundamental linchpin to this BK(in the eyes of us ) then why do we not see this as a priority by the Good Judge? Am I wrong to question this? From years on these boards, we have pushed it very hard but to this date, its an after thought or a forgone conclusion by the adversaries that maybe there is not anything to talk about? Or they have drowned out our complaints, maybe?
We need SS to light this fire(so to speak) under this pro-adversary BK case!
imo and speculating,
jimmy
I may be very foolish,but believe we have one of the best attorneys in the world.I do not expect him to keep me informed of his game plan as if he was my private attorney.As tough as it is we must remain patient. IMO
Steelheader7
Great!
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My money isn't on the justice system, its on KONG !
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It has to be that way, and that's Mr. KONG!
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We need to try and find out if Susman is still involved in this case.
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Yes that is great idea as we have not heard from Mr. Susman for a couple days. NOTTTTTTT
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Everyone.. It is fact that Susman is one of the best litigators in the United States. If you honestly believe he would place all of his bets with an examiner you would only be kidding yourselves. He has been through every possible scenario 5x over and has contingency plans for each and every one of them. The next move will soon be made and it should prove to be interesting at minimum. I really dont think the examiners report is going to wrap up anything. This is a BK and a very large one. THJMW is not going to allow any GSA without a clear and definitive list of ASSETS !! Once it is demanded and they are told no GSA until it is produced and varified then the real end game will start to
fall into place. AS ALWAYS IMHO GO WAMU
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Agree Moneyman!
Reads like there doing part of the examiners job.
Yes i'm in. gwatkins2805@yahoo.com
You don't
You obviously have never played poker, chess or any game that require strategy.
Great job ,telling it like it is IMO.
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Nash -- I honestly don't see anyone getting taken by "pumpers" in this stock at the present time. Those of us that have been here over 2 years have most likely made the decision to either get out or hold to the end. The pumpers as you call them have been doing doing massive amounts of DD for this board. THe only mistake most of us have made to this point is assuming that common sense and basic math would lead to justice. Most of us never thought the entire legal system could be corrupt, though some here are now leaning that way. The simplest of requests was an asset list, which has still not shown up.
I can't sell a car without a title, buy one without insurance or drive one without proof that I am supposedly capable of doing so (license). Yet a multi-billion company can be sold in the middle of the night for less than a penny on the dollar wih no documentation to say what actually was sold. When those of us that have invested in this company want justice and refuse (maybe stupidly) to believe that justice is dead, you say they are pumping the stock.
I agree that if flippers can make some money, more power to them, but
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Sorry but i can not find out anything tonight.Gotta deal with tomorrow ,goodnight all.
I have not received nothing from TD Ameritrade yet either,probably in the morning.
This is all i can find so far.
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File their offering documents with the SEC; and
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100 F Street, NE
Washington, D.C. 20549-0213
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