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climb baby, climb. can you imagine, what would happen to this, if they announced a debt buy down, at next earnings report?
well, analysts are saying dump it, but we keep hitting new 52 week lows, the bottoms gotta be here soon
American Airlines President Moves to United Continental--2nd Update
5:33 pm ET August 29, 2016 (Dow Jones) Print
By Susan Carey
The president of American Airlines Group Inc. left the company Monday but immediately moved into the same role at rival United Continental Holdings Inc., in one of the most unusual management shake-ups seen in the competitive U.S. airline industry.
The departure of Scott Kirby breaks up a management team at the nation's largest airline by traffic that dates back more than two decades and orchestrated two mergers. But his move could give United the kind of broad industry experience some critics of the third-largest U.S. airline contend it is lacking.
United is in the midst of strengthening its management bench under Chief Executive Oscar Munoz, a newcomer to the industry who is under growing pressure to address lagging financial and operational performance. Mr. Munoz, who is both chief executive and president, would cede the latter role to Mr. Kirby.
United said Monday that Mr. Kirby's appointment is effectively immediately. The 49-year-old United newcomer will report directly to Mr. Munoz and have responsibility for operations, marketing, sales, revenue management, alliances and network planning, the company said. In a memo to United employees Monday, Mr. Munoz said the change would allow him to "sharpen" focus on his own CEO role.
American separately said Monday that it named Robert Isom, its chief operating officer, to the post of president, following Mr. Kirby's departure. Mr. Isom, 52 years old, will continue to oversee the airline's operations and assume all revenue responsibilities, the company said. American expressed its gratitude to Mr. Kirby.
American said Monday that its board's succession planning and subsequent conversations about the career expectations and marketability of its executives led the company to conclude it wouldn't retain its existing management team in their current roles for an extended period. As a result, the board chose to "act proactively" to establish a team and structure for the long term.
According to people familiar with the board's thinking, American Chairman and Chief Executive Doug Parker is only 54, well thought of by the board and expected to remain in the top job for years to come. As a result, these people said, Mr. Kirby was told that he needed to "transition out" of the Fort Worth, Texas, company, paving the way for American to elevate Mr. Isom to the president's post.
Like other top executives of American, Mr. Kirby, 49 years old, doesn't have an employment contract or a noncompete agreement, and he is free to make the lateral move to United. But American said it would pay him a severance because he wasn't let go for cause, these people said. His severance agreement with American includes $3.85 million in cash, plus the accelerated vesting of nearly 259,000 restricted stock units with a current value of $9.4 million.
Mr. Kirby's base salary in 2015 at American was $660,000, and his total compensation was $8.3 million.
Mr. Kirby said Monday that he was honored to join United and "have the opportunity to accelerate the momentum the airline has achieved over the past year." The executive said he sees "real opportunity to build on the airline's vast global network."
At United, Mr. Munoz, 57, has been making changes since returning to work in March after recovering from a heart attack and later a heart-transplant surgery. He quickly found himself in a proxy contest that was resolved by a big overhaul of the airline's board, including adding more directors with airline experience and installing an industry veteran as nonexecutive chairman.
Mr. Kirby's turnaround credentials should take some of the burden off Mr. Munoz and provide United with another source of deep industry knowledge. But one person familiar with the matter noted that the new post isn't a predetermined path for Mr. Kirby toward the top job at United.
Earlier this month, the Chicago-based company hired a new chief financial officer and tapped a new chief commercial officer.
Mr. Munoz has overseen an improvement in the carrier's operating performance and forged better labor relations, which had suffered since the 2010 merger of United Airlines and Continental Airlines. But the combined company's margins still lag its big competitors.
Mr. Kirby is known for having strong views and speaking more openly than others in the industry. He abandoned fuel-hedging at US Airways in 2008 and pulled American out of the futures market in 2014, calling hedging "a rigged game that enriches Wall Street." He led a price-matching assault against budget airlines in 2015 that dragged other full-service airlines into the fray.
Both Mr. Kirby and Mr. Parker independently landed in senior roles at America West Airlines in 1995, after starting their airline careers at American. Mr. Parker became CEO of Phoenix-based America West in 2001, and Mr. Kirby was executive vice president of sales and marketing.
The two men were crucial to the 2005 merger of America West and US Airways, when the latter emerged from its second trip to bankruptcy court. Mr. Kirby was named president of the combined carrier, called US Airways, in 2006, and Mr. Parker kept the CEO position.
Late in 2006, US Airways made a hostile bid for Delta Air Lines Inc., when the larger carrier was in chapter 11, seeking to bulk up. That ultimately started a wave of mergers that have highly concentrated the U.S. industry, with the top four carriers controlling more than 80% of domestic capacity. But Delta's creditors rejected the offer, and US Airways withdrew it early the next year.
Undeterred by that defeat, Messrs. Parker and Kirby also were instrumental in forging the 2013 combination of American and US Airways, winning over American's unions and the creditors in American's bankruptcy case by making the argument that American was better off stepping out of court protection with a partner than with going it alone.
The two executives, plus several other top US Airways executives, moved to the new American in their same roles after the merger.
American's integration of US Airways has been comparatively smooth, and American has been highly profitable, helped in part by lower fuel prices. Lately, with much of the integration process behind them, American's executives have focused more effort on trying to meld a single employee culture.
The new changes at United's top ranks raise questions about the hiring of Julia Haywood, a New York-based airline partner for Boston Consulting Group, who was tapped less than two weeks ago as the commercial chief. She has no operating experience and is taking on responsibilities that Mr. Kirby has been fielding for years.
Write to Susan Carey at susan.carey@wsj.com
(END) Dow Jones Newswires
been reading some really good reports, saying AAL has turned the corner, and is starting to see the merger savings, and the low oil is starting to sink in, and analysts are starting to say, if your not in yet, get in quick
there is something starting to brew with AAL
me too, i show 14,000 shares of AAMRQ, so ANY distribution would be nice
if i am not mistaken you hold AAMRQ "in name only" think of it as a bookmark" as to how many shares you owned on the day of the merger. so when all the lawsuits/creditors/ect are paid, any left over money in the fund will be paid to the original owners (on a per share basis) so hypothetically, say they have 500 million dollars left over they will calculate it, and come up with a number say, $1.09 per share (hypothetically again) and you owned 10K shares of AAMRQ, then they would owe you 10,900.00 bucks. as a final distribution. hope this helps.
i need 46-48 again , no hurry but lets see some action out there
yeah i know about the scheduled payments to shareholders, i was talking about the fund set up to payout creditors that were still unresolved, the contingency fund covering the end of the BK. like when will the merger be considered complete? are we flying under one certificate yet?
seriously though, haven't all the creditors been paid? shouldn't they distribute that remaining balance? i mean we all laugh and joke about it, cause it has taken so long, but sure would be nice to close the books on this one.
wish this thing would stop acting like a penny stock, i hope we're not back to being a day-traders' stock, these spikes up and down, for no reason, are hard to watch
you would hope when it sank to unbelievable lows, someone would have made a call and pushed a huge buyback thru while the price is right, i just don't believe will will see 25.00's again.
anyone up to speed on status of buy backs? waiting for a debt pay down announcement, (which won't happen till buy backs are done) and have we just given up on the AAMRQ final payout of set aside funds, or just running the clock out till the lawyers and politicians take it all?
American Airlines Set to Gain from Havana Flights Allocation
9:04 am ET July 8, 2016 (Zacks) Print
American Airlines Group Inc. AAL is expected to retain its position as the leading U.S. Airlines operating flights between Cuba and the U.S. In a favorable development for the company, the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) approved a second round of flight routes to Cuba and the airline has been tentatively given the right to operate five daily flights to José Martí International Airport (HAV) in the Cuban capital of Havana.
The U.S. and Cuba have been working on renewing ties of late. The opening up scheduled service between the two nations after almost fifty years marks another important milestone in this regard. American Airlines will now operate four flights from Miami International Airport (MIA) and one from Charlotte Douglas International Airport (CLT) to HAV.
Details of Service Expansion
American Airlines has been operating chartered flights between the U.S. and Cuba for over 25 years. Hence, the airline is well accustomed to the operational aspects in Cuba and is the leading service provider to Miami-Dade County which houses almost half of the Cuban-American population.
American Airlines expects to receive the final decision later in July. Thereafter, the airline will start selling tickets for the new flights. Boeing 737-800 aircraft and Airbus A319 aircraft will be used to operate flights to Havana from Miami and Charlotte, respectively. The flights are expected to start operating in November this year. With the new flights, American Airlines will now be operating 13 daily flights to six destinations in Cuba.
In June, American Airlines was awarded the rights to begin flight services to five Cuban cities – Camaguey, Cienfuegos, Holguin, Santa Clara and Varadero. American Airlines’ inaugural flight service is slated to start from Sep 7 from Miami to Cienfuegos and Holguin. This will be followed by flights from Miami to Camaguey and Santa Clara on Sep 9 and flights from Miami to Varadero from Sep 11 this year. American Airlines expects to strengthen its existing presence with Cuba through its newest flight routes.
Other Airlines with Approval to Fly to Cuba
In addition to American Airlines, sporting a Zacks Rank #4 (Sell), seven other airlines have received approval for 20 daily flights to Havana in Cuba in the second round of allocations by DOT. These include Alaska Air Group Inc. ALK, Delta Air Lines Inc. DAL, United Continental Holdings Inc. UAL, Southwest Airlines Co., Spirit Airlines Inc., JetBlue Airways Corp., and Frontier Airlines. In June, American Airlines, JetBlue, Southwest Frontier, Southwest Airlines Co. and Sun Country Airlines received approval to operate flights to nine secondary airports in Cuba.
Opening up of new travel routes is expected to help boost revenues for airlines amid various macroeconomic issues like currency fluctuations, terror attacks, low demand and Brexit, which are hurting margins and limiting growth.
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found $1.00 fares between DFW-europe (example DFW-CDG) of course the taxes and port fees are 650.00 but still. i think its a one day thing, and not every market, but want it, better hurry
ok since no new news, any word on DOJ investigation on price fixing? or any word from judge on when last few claims being paid from BK and when if any monies left will be paid out? like maybe this fall? ready to close the books on all that, surely the lawyers have drained all they could already.
Yep, I feel your pain as well, down 160K from that March high in the 50's but what do you do? I keep saying it can't go lower. And already "all in" so I can't even buy more to lower my share average. Just have to look away and hope for the best.
and there's a new 52 week low, breaking the floor, AGAIN, ugghhh
i remember fuel surcharges
not selling below 48.00 ever. yeah it would've been great to sell at 55 and rebuy at 30, but, alas, it is what it is. but even if it takes a lot longer, we all know this stock is worth it, it is just a matter of when, not if. something will eventually happen to restore confidence
well if they are quickly pulling planes outta the dessert, it means, they have routes now that need filling, wonder if it will be frontiers old routes, and some new ones we havens started yet, if they are not waiting on the new planes, it means they think they can get the ball rolling and make some bank, NOW. since no early outs are currently on the table, they must plan on keeping us very busy flying. lets hope so. you won't recognize this airline in 1 year, new planes, new uniforms, new way of treating customers, new clubs, amenities, routes, and new frequent flyer program. a fresh start and a nice new beginning. rewards may not be ripe for a year, but it will be oh so sweet
i hear 24-27 new f/a classes scheduled for this year, plus three subsequent years, containing approx. 40-50 in each class, 5400 new stewardesses coming in soon, and with frontier folding like a cheap suit.
i think AAL will be bringing those super 80's out of the desert, and filling those abandon routes..let hope this water cooler gossip is spot on.. i would private message some of you but i am in the cheap seats
fierce news in the pipeline, love the watercooler info, stay tuned
new 52 week low? who would've though, hind site is 20/20, too bad didn't sell at 55 and rebut at 32.00 but i guess that is the game, i still have long at 7.50, but bought more all the way back down, 48/42/40/38. may just have dead money sitting there, but i am NOT selling this till it goes back to at least 48. no matter what. may have to day trade some of it, back and forth to get a few two dollars PS profit trades to get there.
no, most prices get expensive toward the end IF the flights are already kinda full, they only get cheap 24-48 hours before if the flight is light (load). you need to book at least 2 weeks out, if the flights are kinda full.
hahaha, tickets are so cheap, and flights so full, i don't even use my employee discounts, i buy tickets, i surf kayak and AA.COM till i find the price i want, i found a round trip DFW-MIA-DFW for total of 87.00 (67.00 to MIA, and 20.00 back to dallas) currently looking for SEA round trip, (AUG) will use miles if i don't get the price i want. passes for my family (D-3's standby-space available) are literally more than the positive space full fare tickets. sorry i couldn't help. p.s. even the flights that have a few dozen seats avbl, AA dumps on the market 48 to 24 hours before flight to fill it up (crazy cheap, like 81.00).
American Airlines Employees in Canada Ratify 5-Year Contract
Shares of Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd (NYSE: RCL) have lost 26.25 percent since the year started. Moreover, since Monday, the stock has tumbled 5.4 percent, creating plenty of room for upside, the crowd seems to believe.
Related Link: Here's How Crowdsourced Ratings Can Beat The Market
On Thursday, following the most recent decline, top raters at the Vetr community decided to upgrade their rating on shares of Royal Caribbean, from 4..0 Stars (Buy) to 4.5 Stars (Strong Buy) - out of a possible 5.0 Stars rating.
The new rating seems more aligned with the crowd’s target price of $88.10, which implies an upside potential of almost 11.5 percent from current valuations.
delta asleep at the wheel, over greece, blows up the airwaves in other countries, haven't heard/read anything here in the U.S. they must have great spin doctors, and media connections.
what ever became of that latest DOJ exam on price fixing, and any word on remaining lawsuit shares distribution? been off the grid for a month. sorry if it is old news
been thinking, of course they don't wanna talk debt reduction, or changing/adding strategy, it keeps the price down until they have bought back all the stock they want, THEN, announce debt reduction, push PPS up, seems static, but will turn out to be strategic.
can someone explain why we have such high debt after just filing BK? i mean i know breaking leases on airport properties, warehouse leases, vendor contracts and labor contracts was huge. but did we not get rid of any debt? jeez. and i understand the idea that "cheap" debt is good, and upgrading entire airline is good, when you have cheap debt, but a little debt pay down experiment, to test the waters is overdue
well, rating us a BUY hasn't worked, so at least we can try something new. hahaha
not so much getting out of this one as i am still looking for something with a better upside. will hang in their, while i search. it was/is a great stock, since my share avg is like 7.15. and its only that high because a year ago i bought more when it dipped (cough cough sputter sputter) to 48.00. before that my share avg was like 4.15
a life changer, very appreciative. i still think it will go up GLTA
from your lips to Gods ear...
i would give up the final distribution, i they could get the share price back up in the 50's
quiet room, any predictions? any rumors? any other active chat rooms?