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Merrill lynch:
Last Price
$0.262
Day's Change
+$0.0256 +10.83%
As of 11/16/2017 03:59:38 PM ET
end of story. Now enough of the blather.
Now follow the money. Does LQMT have a contract with Multimatic Inc. ?
Not much volume based on shares issued. Does not look like a panic sell off to me. Looks more like a shake out and reality check. A theme posted here by myself and others here. Just based on potential upcoming expected and or anticipated sale, the share price is over sold below .20.
If one expects any sales within the next 2 quarters today would be a time to look at LQMT.
If not then realistically you might want to wait for certainty. Either way LQMT today presents a higher risk for those who wait as share prices look very attractive and there is way to predict when a relevant sale might be announced. LQMT is not going away. Some shareholders have.
The last few words of your last sentence of your post are the reasons why you invested in LQMT. Am I right or am I missing something here? I don't recall LQMT trying to sell anyone the Brooklyn Bridge. So why sell now. Unless you bought the bridge at .30 or higher your post makes not too much sense to me. But then again I am not too bright. I do not know much.
Good luck.
Well worth reading again. An article from April 2017 still relevant.
http://tradersnewssource.com/liquidmetal/
This is where real management steps up and produce real results.
The lack of a potential LQMT/Apple announcement, the lack of any potential contract announcements, the unveiling of a new website not user friendly, a non existent shareholder/Investor Relations Department and the lackluster latest 10Q has led to profit taking and the sell off. These are all a reflection on the performance of the management team and reasonable thinking of those who have lost trust in LQMT and want to protect their hard earned money. Its not a mystery. Its not complicated and there is no bottom when a company operates like the above. The bottom is not a hypothetical share price or wishful thinking. I wish it were. I only make wishes on my birthday.
Like any other company, all can start turning around when the above shortfalls are corrected. A sale restores interest. Revenues bring in the speculators. Share price climbs again. Long term shareholders like myself and most or all on this board are happy again.
LQMT possibly on it's way to street level again before launching to the moon. It does not take too much money to fix the website or to hire a public relations company. Unless you expect to grow by word of mouth.
Good luck to all.
One thought is that the patents would become the property of Eontec's and that LQMT would become a division of Eontec. Eventually absorbing LQMT. That was about 18 months ago.
A buying opportunity for new investors to LQMT.
So, ????? ; Was the Open House premature, poor timing, a very bad business decision or spot on ????
Just think! LQMT rises from around .24 to .44 based on pure speculation. Now imagine where the share price will rise when they start announcing contracts. Just think!
Think positive. Better days, weeks are ahead.
Have a nice night.
Based on assets and cash: LQMT trading at a fair value. (an entry point.)
Based on sales: LQMT is overpriced. (High risk).
The MM's are obligated to play hot potato with the stock.
So you have some facts. Longs are correct to express all of the views posted. The lack of progress is the fault of the entire executive board. Not us. The rise in speculation and the lack thereof rests solely on the shoulders of the executive board. Not us. more. I think its great that this board makes noise. The noise being posted is a clear reflection on the executive boards performance. The sad part is it is the only voice that LQMT has.
Mr. Li. Needs to recognize that a company that wants to grow, needs to have a voice as well. It is another reason for another drop in price.
Good luck to all.
Amorphous metal industry expected to grow 7.8% annually ( not my statistic) in the near future. There are many many private companies competing with the publicly trading companies for this new materials market. That is not to say that three or four of these companies cannot dominate the market and grow at a higher rate. It takes a lot of money to market a new material. It takes a lot of private capital to help as a company burns through cash reserves or their line of credit. Above all it takes demand from industry or every day consumers to spike the worlds interest.
What is there about Liquidmetal that will attract either one? Although amorphous metal has been around for over 60 years, the technology to produce it for the purposes of marketing has not. Only recently during the past 10 years has technology permitted the expansion of it's use. Right now the need of amorphous metal is limited to a few industry groups. Even with over 100 or 200 interested parties, no one has yet to sink their teeth in LQMT to make a big enough dent in the form of a sales contract that anyone can speak of.
When you discover what it is about Liquidmetal that attracted you to it, know this: it's development has taken a longtime to mature and LQMT has a greater chance at success today then they did when you first bought shares. You also know a lot more about Liquidmetal and what it might be used for. What's missing? Actual sales that have eluded all of us. LQMT seems to be trying to correct that. LQMT seems to be on the right path. I believe LQMT will succeed. They just need more time. We need more patience. The investment world does not have that. They demand growth now not next quarter or next year. Hence LQMT dipped. Many of us have waited between 5 and ten years for growth. Another quarter might do it or another year or even two. I believe it is worth the wait at any price. That is why I bought shares in the first place, and that is why I have added more up to the price of .38. Looking ahead past the next 5 quarters, i believe all of us will be saying they bought into a bargain.
Good luck to all.
What will negatively affect share price is share dilution. Shares issued in exchange of compensation.
The latest insider info for TC shows purchases. If TC sold shares from 11-16, he has accumulated more as of this year. TC nor Hauk's trade volume has impacted LQMT. If anything share value as increased YTD. Notice not based on revenue but on current position of the company and perceived (speculation)future revenue.
Reuters reports shows the same info.
I could be wrong. But if you have more data please let me know.
Market Cap (intraday) $264.72M
Enterprise Value. $304.56M
No. Enterprize value is 17% above the market cap!
An oddity in a bb stock. The enterprise value of the company is currently valued 17% above its market cap. Meaning for those not familiar with financial data; the assets of the company are worth more than the value of its shares. This normally implies: A. The stock is undervalued. B. There are enough assets to cover shareholders debt. Its a good thing but not usual. Very rarely does a non producing developing company have more cash and assets than it's debt.
Just a odd positive observation.
Board member Tony Chung's insider information.
11/30/2016 BOUGHT 959.3K
11/29/2016 BOUGHT 23.2K
11/28/2016 BOUGHT 47.6K
6/30/2014 BOUGHT 85.3K
3/20/2014 BOUGHT 200.0K
3/20/2014 BOUGHT 150.0K
3/20/2014 BOUGHT 195.3K
3/19/2014 SOLD 494.8K
3/18/2014 SOLD 70.6K
6/13/2013 BOUGHT 1.3M
2/1/2012 SOLD 565.3K
First of all, Gorgol, !welcome back!
Read the latest LQMT statement. Like (Mr. Li.) the man said; PATIENCE!!!. Very simple advice. More simply put. "Behave or Leave". Or: buy on dips and sell on peaks.
But more importantly stated is the fact that LQMT is now finally ready to seal the deal should one of their present and future customers are interested. An honest statement as of 09-30-2017. Its not about a weak or strong statement. You want honesty and integrity in a quarterly statement, not window dressing and BS LIKE OTHER BB's put out if you are a long term shareholder looking for stability and growth.
This is why the words capability and desire were used in the statement. To let you know that they have lined up potential customers who may have an interest to go beyond the prototype phase and into the next phase. Its called a contract. They expect contracts! Now whether that happens today or in 2018 is not as relevant to a long term shareholder. What appears to be clear is that LQMT is much closer to just developing prototypes.
The spoiler of announcing a possible planed plant power upgrade, means nothing to us today, but is to let all know that should they have to expand to meet future customer demand they will as supposed to contracting out. It does not mean they are expanding as of now. But they are prepared to do so as a future business decision.
The bottom line: as of 09-30-2017 no new contracts to speak of. As to 2017 into 2018, LQMT expects to have several between now and within the next 3 quarters. Can you wait and ride out the waves? I can. Its not about speculation, rumor or impatience. It's about TIME.
Good luck to all.
Final thoughts. Without any news from the company, there is no reason for LQMT to trade below .27 or above. For that matter if they do trade above and below -what would it be based on without having new facts released by the company? Fear, impatience, rumor, insider activities, and speculation. The Apple show for now and the OH is over. Its time to wait for the company to produce, to function, to see which prototypes hit the mainstream markets.
It is obvious to me that all of this search for info on LQMT and others and new materials is a direct result from a strong desire to know more about a company that keeps it's lips sealed or actually has nothing new to talk about. All of that may change soon.
Good luck to all.
Aside from the unexpected rise and fall in pps. LQMT really needs to do another overhaul of it's website. Mr. Li. Not a very user friendly site. Unless you still want to keep the company a secret.
The PR LQMT forgot to release!
October 24, 2017 - Huntington National Bank has filed a 13F-HR form disclosing ownership of 40,000 shares of Liquidmetal Technologies, Inc. (OTC:LQMT) with total holdings valued at $16,000 USD as of September 30, 2017. Huntington National Bank had filed a previous 13F-HR on July 21, 2017 disclosing 40,000 shares of Liquidmetal Technologies, Inc. at a value of $11,000 USD. This represents a change in shares of 0.00 percent and a change in value of 45.45 percent during the quarter.
August 15, 2017 - Carret Asset Management, Llc has filed a 13F-HR form disclosing ownership of 10,000 shares of Liquidmetal Technologies, Inc. (OTC:LQMT) with total holdings valued at $3,000 USD as of June 30, 2017. Carret Asset Management, Llc had filed a previous 13F-HR on May 08, 2017 disclosing 10,000 shares of Liquidmetal Technologies, Inc. at a value of $2,000 USD. This represents a change in shares of 0.00 percent and a change in value of 50.00 percent during the quarter.
August 09, 2017 - Burney Co/ has filed a 13F-HR form disclosing ownership of 10,965 shares of Liquidmetal Technologies, Inc. (OTC:LQMT) with total holdings valued at $3,000 USD as of June 30, 2017.
August 08, 2017 - Wesbanco Bank Inc has filed a 13F-HR form disclosing ownership of 620,307 shares of Liquidmetal Technologies, Inc. (OTC:LQMT) with total holdings valued at $177,000 USD as of June 30, 2017. Wesbanco Bank Inc had filed a previous 13F-HR on April 27, 2017 disclosing 620,307 shares of Liquidmetal Technologies, Inc. at a value of $121,000 USD. This represents a change in shares of 0.00 percent and a change in value of 46.28 percent during the quarter.
August 03, 2017 - Dowling & Yahnke Llc has filed a 13F-HR form disclosing ownership of 213,000 shares of Liquidmetal Technologies, Inc. (OTC:LQMT) with total holdings valued at $61,000 USD as of June 30, 2017. Dowling & Yahnke Llc had filed a previous 13F-HR on April 27, 2017 disclosing 213,000 shares of Liquidmetal Technologies, Inc. at a value of $41,000 USD. This represents a change in shares of 0.00 percent and a change in value of 48.78 percent during the quarter.
"Below are websites to help you better understand where and how the above information is taken from." Researchfyi.
In the example below I use wesbanco bank inc. info from SEC.GOV.
Anyone can do the same for all funds.
Mailing Address
1 BANK PLZ
WHEELING WV 26003
Business Address
ONE BANK PLAZA
WHEELING WV 26003
3042349422
WESBANCO BANK INC (Filer) CIK: 0000877134 (see all company filings)
Fiscal Year End: 1231
Type: 13F-HR | Act: 34 | File No.: 028-02925 | Film No.: 171171271
The website below will archive each position in wesbanco in alphabetical order. See LQMT.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/877134/000087713417000008/xslForm13F_X01/trust.xml
Although the above funds hold small positions at all in LQMT, is an astonishing fact. Each fund has at least $1billion in assets. Except for Carret ($527 million) & Dowling $949 million.
Just thought all long term investors should know you too are not alone. Its good thing when speculators leave. You get a clearer picture of LQMT.'s value.
The sell off in no way changes the future prospects for LQMT. It only changes the value of ones portfolio. Whatever was/is going on at LQMT is still going on. I will follow the 13f forms from sec.gov. to see where the smart money is riding. People have short memories. Mr. Li. from what I can tell from all sources (being that his lips are sealed and the fact that there is no (PR) public relations department) is trying to go from negative income to positive income. It cost money to pay salaries, insurance, purchase equipment, raw materials etc., and operate LQMT. He bought stock. Invested $65 million. He knows LQMT cannot live off of share dilution and warrants forever. It would appear that he is trying very hard to turn this around. He appears to have a track record of success. Years ago you invested in the hope of a miracle material. (amorphous metal.) Today long term shareholders hold and new ones invest not on the success of the new material, but on the new CEO, Mr. Li. It is that simple. It is not complicated. LQMT is old news. Mr. Li is new news. It cannot be anymore transparent. As I have stated in a few of my earlier posts: LQMT can pull back and can hold, but Mr. Li. And LQMT will determine it's next move. The rebound is not as telling as the next 10Q. That is what is important. Not fear, not speculators. If I thought for one moment LQMT did not have a better than 50/50 shot at turning around, I would have sold when it went from .06 to .24 and not bought more.
Good luck to all.
Typical shake out of a sell off. From typical over bought positions.
IMHO, a typical set up to force a sell off before the next event.
11/13/17. But I could be wrong.
Why all the clamor? Nothing has changed! Mañana.
A little more DD. But still looking for the missing chapter.
https://www.apple.com/legal/intellectual-property/guidelinesfor3rdparties.html
When you wake up tomorrow, do a little homework. But don't read too much into it. It does not represent the next chapter. I'm still looking for it.
https://images.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/pdf/Apple-Supplier-List.pdf
My apologies.
I'm old & forgetful. HAPPY HALLOWEEN!
If your buddy knew he would be putting out a buy. Otherwise he would have sold a longtime ago. It means he knows ducas, zilch, zero, nada.
Who can argue with sentiment based on reality. This is why the big brokerage firms who manage large accounts frown, discourage and advise not to touch a bb stock. The fiduciary guidelines are questionable. The sales and revenues likewise. But when people invest in a bb stock the risks are always higher. That is not to say that there are not small caps, mid caps and large caps do not carry risks too. You do not sound like a broken record. The frustration is real. It is as real as the lack of an investor relations contact and the silence for the one that does not exist on this board. As some posters post; we do not need investors, we need sales. My opinion is we need not only sales and investors, but that shareholders like yourself, and I also would be very appreciative for a little more PR. Otherwise we believe the light is on and nobody is home. I understand, you understand. Let's hope Mr. Li, gets it as well.
WeAre, you have (hope) very sound reasoning. Just keep in mind why the price of the shares rose. For some it was a possible Apple announcement, for others perhaps the Open House and for many both dates caused speculation and increased activity. For the smart long term investors who have followed LQMT, they know the rise from .06 to .024 was based on the investment by the new CEO, and new headquarters that houses LQMT's equipment. This is not based on speculation. This is the result of increased assets in a Enterprize.The rise from .24 to where it currently trades was due to insider buying from perceived increase in actual revenue from possible/probable revenue that cannot at this time be stated and is to some extent being supported by recent purchases for any of the above reasons, plus word of mouth and perhaps rumor.
Can the share price pull back due to fear and impatience? Yes. Can it hold here? Yes. The next direction will be determined by LQMT's financial report, related PR and how it is interpreted by the shareholders. This is not the first time shareholders have been at this price with LQMT. But it may be the first time that LQMT succeeds. I based this on the proven knowledge, experience and investment by the new CEO. LQMT has the patents, has the equipment, has the resources and has a very seasoned leader in the field of Amorphous Metal. There is hope, there is a light at the end of the tunnel, and if you cannot see the light, then right now imagine there is one. Otherwise it is over.
Good luck to all.
A reason we may never see LQMT make it's own product such as a razor blade.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=RE29989.PN.&OS=PN/RE29989&RS=PN/RE29989
My thoughts are when you manufacture products for other companies you are at the mercy of their ability to sell their products as well as competing with other possible manufacturers. But if LQMT come up with it's own product that almost all consumers can use like Kleenx, Alteria Group and DuPont etc., then LQMT will rocket up to the moon and beyond. Amorphous Metal, is not a product we can use by itself. Right now it is a product used to enhance another. Until someone comes along and reinvents the Slinky or Spinning Top that many children used to play with, that many parents use to buy. Until LQMT or someone can think outside of the box and come up with a novelty purpose for LQMT's Amorphous Metal, that the majority of consumers would want or need to have. Then LQMT, will be a forever company, dependent on others to set it's limits. This type of structure is not a bad thing. But it is a reason for it's struggle to become a small cap stock. Long term share holders who are impatient and other shareholders should be able to understand this. If anyone does not have the patience or the understanding how companies grow and why it takes a long time to become successful. Than LQMT is not for the impatient shareholders. That is why Mr. Li, stresses patience. Its good advice. Advice that oftentimes none of us wants to hear.
Good luck to all.
Normally, when one invests in a company's shares the have an investor's relations company or person in the company representing the company that an investor may call on. But with LQMT the area of investor relations remains ambiguous at best. Perhaps this needs to be addressed. But from reading this board it does not seem to be a concern as I do not see it being addressed.
Eagle 1947, I agree that the progress should to an extent be put into words. But the dropped their investor relations company, the one listed on this board, in which I also posted here but received no response to it and just promoted the person who took their place and did not release in the PR a replacement.
They have. .06 to .24 and .24 to .38 speaks volumes. I recently posted a brief study on a 37 day trading period.
Look at the pps the volume and the money that was handled vs other periods in LQMT 's history. It is one of the loudest and boldest PR's released without a single letter. Not one jot.
With this equity there are 4 primary factors always affecting the stock price. #1, insiders, #2, outsiders, #3, stock manipulators, #4, LQMT, itself. We (long term investors)who were/are fortunate to have bought shares in LQMT have hardly any impact, since we tend to ride the roller coaster occasionally taking profits and or accumulating more shares. The insiders are those who buy shares in bulk at cheap/low prices knowing they will profit from their investment. The outsiders are the ones who wish they bought in bulk at lower prices and are afraid they may be missing out on a good thing. These are the speculators who are impatient and often sell and buy again and sell again either to early or to late. The manipulators are the ones who are obligated to buy the stock. In the world of OTC.bb MM's fit this category. They are not the only ones. LQMT the company itself will affect all by it's success or failure to progress or provide sound reasons to sustain.
To date it should be obvious to all long term investors that LQMT has attracted insiders to raise the pps 6 fold and now a few outsiders as well. The manipulators are riding this wave and so are we. As LQMT progresses more and more outsiders will invest and raise the pps. The sky is the limit. But initially will be determined by factor #4, LQMT. After that new speculators will appear. Outside of a buyout or merger LQMT and all of it's investors are in a very unique and rare place.
Many of my friends who never heard of this equity are now beginning to buy shares. Its kind of silly. When LQMT was trading around 6.5 to 12.5 they would not invest. Now at .35 and higher they are interested and keep in mind revenues are not the reason.
Remember trading at a range of .35 to .40 right now, while waiting on LQMT is a good thing.
Good luck to all.
Gorgol, with God's many blessings may he heal you of all manner of illness. You are in our prayers.