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Gileads Remdesivir 'not the solution' for treating Covid-19.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/gileads-stock-drops-after-china-halts-second-remdesivir-trial-2020-04-15
Lemm@ Thanks - hope your spirit is holding on' through this very strange period on this planet.
Chances are that future will talk - Before and After - Covid-19 2020.
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This guy is maybe the biggest Dylan fan that ever lived - I was in the military with him in 8 years - and my best mate ever after.
Irish and JL@ And it was very clear that he had infact received all the inputs send to him and Amarin.
And he tried best he could to respond and thank for that.
So 'Applause to all of You' who contacted Amarin directly.
Obviously important parts of messages actually got through - and I think even touched - the CEO of Amarin.
Jasbg
dmil@ Fair enough - I'm 'again' all lay person and your backed up by Dr's.
So cace closed :)
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Or not quite - Not to spoil your day' - do you walk daily - bicycle what ewer - that is what will keep you alive (and Vascepa).
I'm sure those that know you well here - dont dare ask that question - afraid their monitor will explode on answer :)
dmiller@ Glad to hear - I would miss you :)
Read about your feedback on taking Vascepa - there a so many experienced doctors here - hope they will respond/advice you about the drug.
Jasbg
Hostile takeover should be possible Easy (if they bought up 250 - 300 million stocks at 4- 5$)
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But then what ?
A number of hustling Brokers' cant make money in the 'Real World' !
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They NEED John Thero and Amarin to run the company 'as before' - and make it grow to the enormous potential it has' - only then they can sell their millions of 'cheap shares' and make 'billions of dollars' !
Jasbg
Agreed !
Agreed !
Serious and going back in history in a strong and deep manor !
No BO - but only the 'fanatics' really believed that :)
Problem for us 'earth people' we'r somehow always 'to late' to get on the ride :)
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About today's conference - (about an hour from right now) - this Sunny Guy talk a lot about unusual movements in options - and there actually is' some 'rather hard to explain' big post in there.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AMRN/options?p=AMRN
Would be Ok - if there were some news in there that makes AMRN take a WORX run'.
Sure would not spoil my day - even it will first happen tomorrow :)
Jasbg
Every company 'that says something' about corona - skyrockets. Must be tempting for CEO's to make hopeful such announcements:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/WORX?p=WORX&.tsrc=fin-srch
WHAla@ To my mind just about every Long in AMRN - has that (or ought to have) that feeling - of being a very bad investor / money manager - when it comes to this stock.
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I mentioned a number of times - that we were Hustled - with the ruling day before Q1.
Question is if we have been 'led to the slaughter' all the way. What could indicate that' is Oppenheimer's Leland Gershell 'actually giving away' day after FDA approval dec. 2019 - that he 'knew the plan' to control the AMRN stock- by a 7$ target - and 'Sell'.
At that point this gave no mening - but is sure does today.
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Ever since' every Long in AMRN has been mentally locked / blocked from acting while the stock were (manipulated IMO) - to fall back - back - further back 'against all logic / all the good news - great numbers Q4 - Canada Approval etc.
And the second factor (besides the steady falling back) all the time 'possible Buy Out - were kept alive 'Again' Locking the Longs - afraid of Missing Out.
And then the 'Final kill' ruling patent trial - creating exactly the total Panic - Gershell and his allied had planned from the start.
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I'm sure a lot of longs (who many has been in the market for decades) have been succesful elsewhere in investing - and I'm just as sure that 'the big majority of them/us were fooled - hustled by AMRN stock.
Most big retail Logs are still hanging in there / have not' sold out. And possibly (we all hope so) the war can still be won - even it will take somewhat longer to get there :)
Jasbg
Have to admit - Well played by GS (and the Judge - day befor Q1):
Goldman made billions on that move.
Depending how 'Real Value' of Amarin is set (20 - 50$) between 5 and 14 billion$ (without producing anything other the usual hustling - sitting in their fancy offices).
Long live US third branch of Government :)
Latest from DR. OZ on the covid-19 decease - day 81:
https://www.doctoroz.com/episode/covid-19-pandemic-are-there-problems-way-we-use-ventilators-treat-covid-19-patients?video_id=6148590784001
Corona Crises - not all bad :)
north@ Link to the Bloomberg “The Intersections of Art and Technology":
Is it this you mean - look very interesting and Free to watch it seems:
https://sponsored.bloomberg.com/news/sponsors/features/hyundai/art-technology/?adv=16713&prx_t=OpUDAyrUgAXSkPA
Jasbg
sunny@ Its bedtime where I live - but a nice input to close the day for sure.
Se you just arrived here - so maybe you will asked to present yourself soon by one of the moderators (I was) :)
All the best for now
Jasbg
sunny@ Thanks for your optimism - we need some of that :)
You seem to know a lot about the game of options (where I'm a total blank).
But i do remember reading somewhere that Baker Brothers at one point made more that 2 billion in just one week on some Calls - so that does indicate that this can be part of the game the Big Money plays.
Jasbg
sunny@ Sure like possible BO numbers you mention :)
Something like that would not only save the Year' - it would save rest of the Century !
Not trying to derail your deb at here I absolutely agree with sst66 in the covid-19 case.
When old and sick people is in your care - and you know what best chance of saving them from suffocating from the decease - you dont experiment for trial purposes -You Give the medicines that has already for weeks been shown to work - if you dont' you are guilty of murder in my book.
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https://video.foxnews.com/v/6147485636001
Know the Mori trials you debated is not about life and death - so it's a different situation all together.
Jasbg
Following up on idea of Tucker Carlson covering the Amarin and Vascepa story - an example of how thoroughly he works - sometimes.
xblkbk@ Tucker Carlson would absolutely be the person for that:
I have send many tweets to him (and Hannity and Ingram) dont know if any of them 'got through' - but if you dont try - yes :)
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I will try to make a picture on what has happened to Amarin (the full story) and send it to Tucker Carlson - if it were to get 'through' he would need some native American to tell the story on the Air (dreaming here).
There should be plenty of serious people on this board that could do that - like JL - marjac or someone else that could 'tell the story' the right way.
As proof I have used Tucker Carlson a lot on my webpage:
http://talksense.dk/category/fox/tucker
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Jasbg
HinKus@ Ok - I hear You :)
But as I say' - someone has to point out' that this right now is all about money.
That is what harms me right now - this judges (arranged) judgement sets Amarin 10 years back (if we'r lucky).
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Vascepa is a brilliant drug that could help restore - the most vulnerable in health in the West.
But everything is right now being drowned 'by this sick ruling - of a sick legal case' - that would only be possible in USA (with the endless number of legal rats ever looking for wictims).
Jasbg
HinKus@ Your want to talk 'perspective' here - lets do that then:
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The short version:
An Irish based company use 23 years - 300 million dollars alone on a surway to please the FDA' - all the way on the brink of going under' - to prove that their product 'Works' - and then what happens ?
All the BP Wolfe's and their associates 'Banks and Hedge Funds' comes out of the Woodworks - and fight them with the worst bestially means - All For Money.
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Someone has to reveal - 'The cynical ugly people' that runs this sort 'money making fraude' - in our Beautiful Free West.
Jasbg
JL@ Sharp as always' - and both great music and symbolic :)
Jasbg
It cant be more clear than this:
http://talksense.dk/clinical-trials-strive-to-gather-data-on-hydroxychloroquine-being-used-to-treat-coronavirus-symptoms.html
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Jasbg
Will this be aloud to stay here.
Limmi@ Trying to find something you maybe did not know in advance - here is a number I really do enjoy myself with this big man.
And actually (only just came to mind) - this number somehow do apply to the thousands of sick and elderly people, who died and is buried (burned) alone - away from family and friends.
In fact the most Sad' and Unforgiving' thing about this damn virus we all still face right now.
Lemmi@ I think you live a 'non boring' Life When Young (younger).
And I agree with you. The truth is that all the Hussle with AMRN actually proves - 'how valuable it is' - 'Will Bee' - when it reach all the cardiovascular threatened customers.
Sound like a Wild Weeding You attended back then :)
Here a bit of different music I think you will like !
Double - sometimes happens - for no reason (board fault) !
LaBiLe@ Relative to the size of Amarin - i believe this must be the most debated company in the history of stocks :)
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Why that is - I'm not sure (only been in' since mid 2018). But probarbly the very long run ever since 1993 - and the many obstacles is part of the reason.
A number of people on iHub AMRN - have owned' and followed' this stock for 1/3 of their life. It's family to them.
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I think you argue well for BO here.
But as we have learned a number of times over the last 18 months - this stock has become 'a battlefield' with a number of hardcore players (and now with a judge that's corrupt 'even most dont like to use that word).
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Where 'best' to go from here ?
You mention that you have been in from the start (big in green - still).
After calming somewhat down - (from the big Hustle by Oppenheimer - Citi -GS - and 'Bought Judge' - IMO) - i think that reading the 'Law Qualified' peoples input on the board - best thing is to 'Wait once more' (even it is mentally killing everybody).
As the game has been played against Longs in AMRN - best thing we can do right now - is Patience once again - and wait for Appeal - which Law People says is very strong.
4- 5$ SP for a drug that is in itself a revolution in medicine and general health - we all know is a joke.
The SP right now has brought Longs in AMRN to a 'everything to Win' Situation. Chances it will fall seriously from here 'very little' - chances i will 'rise very big - not to say Certain'.
So the positive take' Longs are now holding a stock 'that will 96% be higher in 2 years'. Question in only HOW much HIGHER.
You have a nice (social distance) Easter Holiday :)
Jasbg
I know a number of regulars' on this board are Grown Ups - who remember music like this. Ends in maybe the best dual guitar solo ever :)
From this famous Live recording:
Thanks: But if BP 'bought say 90% of shares' they factually own 90% of Value of Company.
lets say SP goes - to 20- 30- 100 - they would Be making loads of money (as would the rest of us if we haven't sold out).
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But Ok - they of course would not 'Control the Company' - and not' collect the 'Billions in yearly' profits from 'hope to be' Sales WW.
Think I get It :)
Jasbg
The cynical fact is' - that we have to hope it is GS (and Oppenheimer - Citi) that controls the stock right now. They will be in it for 'making money' selling to BP - for highest possible price.
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If it were BP - why would they be interested in a Buy Out - if they already factually own the company !
Is there something I'm missing here ?
Jasbg
coubebe@ I think you could very well be 'heads on' here.
Comparing to today's Medicine War - trying to 'make the most of the Covid-19 Crisis' from a big number of Bio's - It is a War out there - even right now where old and sick people are dying in the thousands.
Like eg. the number of small Bio's that used the Panic to announce 'possible break-through's in Vaccines - the first days of the Crises.
SP rose 3- 4- 500 % right there - many 'insiders' and 'friends' must have made fortunes - on the 'very often' fake news - selling on top.
Have learned by now - the Bio business is merciless. Claiming to help humanity - but in the end all about money !
Jasbg
north@ Of course your right - trying to fight the Big Boys that way - you dont stand a chance (they just bought 200 million shares at bargin price)!
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There is actually a way to look at last weeks 'Buy Up' in a more positive manor. The fact that the price was locked at 4$ (and kept at 4$ to the end day 1) - and then even raised day 2 and 3 after bad ruling) does indicate 'that the 'big money' believe in the stock.
They Buy AMRN to make Money (which is what GS does) - so they expect SP to rise - otherwise why buy the stock Big Time.
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I have an old input from Yahoo AMRN board I copied - 'to remind myself about exactly this situation' - the day that the FDA approval hopefully would come through. And still I forgot' and was surprised by the falling back - combined with very big volume.
The story referred to herunder - self-explaining - and hit me at the time - from an honest and velmeaning man:
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Like others I have been following the board 'to and from' since 'the big blow' on March 30 2020 - where the newly appointed lady Judge to an extend 'killed this company'.
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You can look at what happened in different ways. I keep returning to this Oppenheimer Leland Gershell character - that right from the start signaled 'that he knew the plan' to take Amarin down (target 7$ and 'sell').
To me it was an absolut Setup - Amarin were Hustled by whom ever. Most likely GS - Oppenheimer - Citi - all who has signaled via their analysts - thet Amarin stock was 'going nowhere'. And of course 'The Judge' that makes ruling 'day before Q1 - to create absolut MAX PANIC - as we saw it. Let me put it like this' she will not be unpopular with the Big Money Tanks, that made billions of her 'Chock Ruling'.
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I have no illusions at all about where we are as Longs. We have been manipulated ever since R-I autumn 2018 - culminating with the takeover of 50- 60% of the company last week - at a bargin price 4.3$ average a share.
With the panic after ruling - Money Tanks could have made the floor at 2$ - they would still have collected millions. There were obviously already a decision made - to lock course at 4$ which also indicate - that 'everything was planned' they KNEW the verdict forehand.
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I respect Irish and others trying to influence Amarin directly, but have my doubts that will change much.
If I should think in possible actions 'to try to influence SP of Amarin for the better' - what I would prefer were to hire 'the most Knowing cynical Broker Team' to help analyzing what is going on with AMRN stock.
Who was behind the buy up last week. Who actually owns the company today, what are their future plans.
The only real power that we as long retailers hold - are the shares we own in the company. And as it is for the Unions - alone your nothing' but when your part of a Group that 'acts combined' you hold power.
This is only 'free imagination' and maybe even not that well thought through. But lets say that 'as many longs as possible 'as a group' hired A couple of Hardcore Brokers - to works for us.
Brokers would be paid in AMRN shares. I would have no problem putting in 50- 100 shares - if there could be made a model, that would put some light on 'what is going on' - and just as important. Could for the future 'Stop manipulation of AMRN) Possibly by using same methods as 'manipulators' to stop it (we have stocks to work with - as a group).
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Continuing range of thoughts' - a range of the best minds on this board should form a group - to research if a model for something like this would be possible. And this group should communicate outside this forum - in the face of researching (keep communication protected).
Sure there is an element of 'getting back' at manipulators (eg. their 2 dayli ramps for months - being able to either know when to buy into it - or just more realistic maybe - 'Stop Them' in generally locking the stock down (not being aloud to take of).
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I know this would to every degree be an experiment - and will it even be possible to find a couple of Brokers 'With a Conscience and the necessary insight' - that would find a task like this an exiting challenge.
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Just thought from the hip - and do you think it is absolute nonsens its' Ok - I might even agree with you tomorrow :)
Jasbg
44 trials WW with Hydroxychloroquine:
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID-19&term=Hydroxychloroquine&cntry=&state=&city=&dist=&Search=Search
The world crises pushing trials. In USA the drug temporary approved by FDA for us covid-19 patients.
Jasbg
The latest DR Oz videoes - day 73 - 74 - on Corona Crisis:
Use this on my webpage trying to 'convince Denmark' that the malariadrug + antibiotika treatment 'Works' (right now patients treated traditional - put in respirator and many dies - a minor trial on Remdesvir) :
(videos load slowly - dark breaks - continues)
day 74:
https://www.doctoroz.com/episode/covid-19-pandemic-us-doctor-shares-new-results-how-covid-19-patients-are-doing
day 73:
https://www.doctoroz.com/episode/covid-19-pandemic-brand-new-research-hydroxychloroquine-shows-more-positive-signs-it-could
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My webpage on the subject (translate bottom right):
http://talksense.dk/dr-oz-insight-into-brand-new-research-on-hydroxychloroquine.html
Jasbg
JL: To change the subject (release your mind from Amarin Pain) - have you seen the latest on the French studies of 'malaria drug' for covid-19.
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I actually put the Medscape artikel on my website - in my continuous effort to 'get through to danish health authorities (no real treatment yet in Denmark - only very limited trials in Remdesivir - rest of elderly sick people aloud to die in respirators)
http://talksense.dk/covid-19-more-hydroxychloroquine-data-from-france-more-questions.html
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Jasbg
NB: Today even a very experienced doctor died (64 years old - not treated) How could he not know 'what could have cured him' ?
https://jyllands-posten.dk/premium/navne/nekrolog/ECE12054904/overlaege-karsten-bech-er-doed-af-coronavirus/