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If both model cars supply the LM phone, that’s about 4000 units.
Outside interest picks up in LQMT, as rumors of a possible deal this year may happen. Some of the rumors come from LQMT itself by way of their blog and past CEO statements. Short term outside high risk dice rollers do not want to miss out on the next pps pop. Hence, trade volume increases. LQMT remains silent on it’s progress as they attempt to line up clients for agreements.
LQMT has manufactured at least 7 metal firearm parts in their 2018 portfolio. These parts were made before 2018. For whom? They have not disclosed. Are they any closer to a contract this year? I don’t want to guess, there is no PR on the subject nor why have they made several parts. LQMT claims the parts are superior. Yet the huge firearms industry including the military have not signed on in a big way. This is a billion dollar industry, which could order millions of parts worth millions of dollars for LQMT.
Regardless of what or which firearms companies could be involved. The deal has not happened yet and to me it reflects in a negative way the capabilities of the LQMT to sell a product to take the company to the next level.
Sort of like trial and error. One day they will announce success. They may in fact have orders right now, but cannot disclose them and choose not to release pr progress. The same goes for medical parts and auto.
We only know what they state or infer. We also can tell by what other material companies are selling or not selling.
Making parts are good. Selling the parts are better.
This should be the year they sell the parts.
For the reason one would buy a lottery ticket.
Eagle1947, Many, many years ago the French fashion house of Lanvin, now owned by L’oéal, sold a popular perfume with a very catch line of: “promise her anything, but give her Arpège.”
Well right now P. Hauck & Co. can promise us the world, but in all truth he/they cannot even deliver the Arpège!!!
To conclude: I, we/all hope and expect revenues from sales. We all get that. I expect them sooner than later. So far Mr. Li has failed to that end. Not saying they are not trying. We all get that. But without PR inline with or without a NDA, Mr. Li has failed. Not LQMT! Mr. Li!
I hope everyone gets that, since LQMT was already failing!
It is the reason why so many pay so little attention to words and statements of the past executives. They owe an apology to all that have invested here. Not anymore promises! They owe the shareholders results and not more whish lists! Mr. Li, has been quiet, not LQMT! Mr. Li has not made a sale we can speak of. Is he trying? There is no doubt. That is what is keeping the pps above .06. Have we been patient? Yes. But until shareholders see sales, like LQMT, Mr. Li, is failing!!
And if Mr. Li, fails, LQMT fails and so do we. Only our failure will cost us a lot more than theirs!! This is an extremely high risk opportunity for shareholders.
Tough hard words. But the truth. I know that you understand it. Not everyone can deal with reality. They know the truth as well, but deal with it in a more palatable format. If it were not true the volume trading would be in the tens of millions daily.
Ok enough.
Good luck to you and all in LQMT.
We are getting closer to the end of the tunnel. It should be good. It’s been a long time.
I do not understand your two questions to the post. Is there something specific regarding LQMT, or are your two questions more of a personal matter?
I will focus on LQMT.
Not all do due diligence. It is not easy with many equities. It is harder with a BB stock.
Regarding the post: LQMT has not released B.S. PR. That is a good thing, a positive.
Regarding Market Cap. Since Mr. Li, bought into and assumed control of LQMT, the market cap has increased, doubled. But has flatlined since 2016, and on occasion has dipped below the Eontec investment using Mr. Li as the investor or visa versus, discounting spikes and sell offs.
Regarding their 10Q,s or the 10K. Since there have been no PR’s for a long time impacting on the financial aspects of the company one way or another for shareholders (and new ones) to make better investment decisions and to protect their hard earned money. These financial filings are only snapshots of yesterday’s news or last years news. There is nothing concrete about the future. There is no guidance, there is plenty of blather, there are only forward looking statements both good an bad that can be found in many equity reports of any equity.
Now one might say LQMT is comfortable with that. But I do not know of other equities, especially ones without sales to speak of, that does not want to attract new investors or make existing ones comfortable as well. More often than not when clients, meaning future customers are ready to seal the deal you will see a spike in volume.
So rather than repetitiously read there blog blather about the past and their continuous, they are almost there rhetoric. It would be nice to read that the history of their R&D and the new investment of Mr. Li, has finally paid off for all, with the unannouncement of a forward looking statement of revenue.
Does that help or are your questions more of a personal matter and less about LQMT?
My interests are about my investment in LQMT and to try to shed a little more light for all. I try to stay away from the personal. They’re distractions. I hope you agree too.
Mr. Li, Your market cap dipped below $200million=NG. If you had new/more interested share holders, you would not have to dilute shares. You cannot do that under a $300million market cap. To do this your company needs a trading pps around .34. Pump websites and rumor mills can account for temporary spikes.
One good thing. At least (LQMT), your company, (unlike most of the B.B.’s), does not release B.S. P.R. Aside from no P.R., LQMT, does release hints by way of forward looking breadcrumb statements. As noted on this board by me and possibly of the same opinions shared by other posters. We do not need to know how many clients might be interested or that you are anticipating a sale later this year.
All we need to know is a positive announcement of an anticipated sale or actual sale. Today, tomorrow, next week or anytime before they wheel us to a window to watch the sunset.
You are spot on. I have been stating that in many of my posts and once again in my last post as well. It’s not about being in a penny stock. Most of us have been there for a long time. It’s about being in the dark.
Good luck to you
PS in some of my earlier posts I refer the lack of PR to a lifeline. The last lifeline was in a LQMT blog by P. Hauck, which turned out to be nothing more than deja vu.
While all long terms and a few short terms wait to see if LQMT can seal a deal with revenues that would allow the pps to break out of penny land into $1+ land, the blather continues and so has the downward trend for the pps, as cash burn, share dilution and lack of PR continues to be the mantra.
There is nothing new out there. The speculation continues as does the hope for a deal as does the combing and posting and sharing of information. Nothing has changed. LQMT claims to have all it needs to move into contract land except a contract. The revenues in the 10K reflect where the company has been for the past year, but give no hard certainty as to what the 10K will look like for 2018.
How many more quarters (10Q’s) this can go on before the dice rollers sell is anyone’s guess.
One thing is for sure. This is no longer about past executives or speculation. This all rests on the new CEO Mr. Li, and his abilities to make good on his promise, his integrity, his honor or it will be to his shame.
I trust that Mr. Li, can do it. Otherwise I would not have added to my LQMT position. LQMT, seems to be headed in the right path.
His success is our success.
Good luck to all.
The answers to the question are in my post. Here are two hints...grease and golf.
Firearms, be it sport or military use, LQMT is getting closer to sealing the deal. It all comes down to industry and political contacts. This important area may be why they do not have a contract. They may have to hire people who have the connections. The parts that LQMT has made and the test results of these parts prove that the LQMT product is superior and less expensive. LQMT imho may need an industry insider, someone the firearms industry trusts. Be it sport or military.
As far as the auto and medical industries, perhaps they have a contact through Eontec. But if not. They need to hire sales people in those fields who have the resources and connections to seal the deal.
LQMT has the superior product at a more economical cost. What are they missing? Or why have the industries involved not signed on? What is holding back the dam from bursting?
There have been a few times in LQMT‘s, history, when investors thought this was/is the right time to buy shares. Like when they were given a 1+ million dollar contract about 10 years ago or when Apple purchased a license for 20 million or when Mr. Li. & Eontec bought in for 65 million.
Well now is the beginning of another time for new shareholders to roll the dice and buy in as LQMT is about to burst the dam. It may not be a penny stock for much longer. There is no exact timeframe for when this will occur. It can happen later this year, or sooner. There are now more B.B. stock websites mentioning LQMT. When this happens, spikes happen. Many short term traders love to catch spikes, while others hope to catch the bigger one, when a company like this announces a contract.
This could be the time to be in LQMT.
Good luck to all
No reason for the drop in pps. Any recent buyer or short term buyer could not possibly have expected without any pr announcement between quarters something else, unless that investor has zero experience or borders with a bit of insanity. For two years now LQMT has been preparing for client contracts. They state that they are now capable of fulfilling obligations of interested clients. At the same time they have maintained relationships with their licensee partners, and that includes Apple. In other words they still share technological progress!
Now if you are a long term and rolled the dice, you are holding and not selling. Others who have not a clue and buy on hype or pumping and dumping tend to sell, when clueless.
Unfortunately long terms are reaching their limit with LQMT. Hence anyone would be disappointed and justified.
Constant blather in the 10K does nothing for a long term shareholder. However the little progress that it suggests is in line with the expectations of most long terms even if it means LQMT is behind in terms of a contract.
Knowing what may be going on at LQMT as they state in the 10K, means that the old tree of LQMT is about to bare fruit. Meaning this is a good time to be in LQMT, and if you are a high risk roller, this would be the time to buy for the short term.
Why? Only because LQMT, is stating that they are now in a position to not only attract clients, but to also manufacture or fulfill the contract. Basically it is a repeat of the February blog with a little more detail. However, it is only an opinion in the 10K and speaks nothing to any contract size. It’s not about Apple, CE, Medical, Auto or R&D etc., etc. its about contracts and revenue.
The bottom line: the integrity of the new CEO is on the line.
Good luck to all
http://liquidmetal.com.benefito.com
Just statistics.
Read post 143533. Mr. Li, with Eontec, already manufactures CE smart phone parts, which presently sell more smart phones in China then Apple.
Sounds nice in theory and in hope. Without permission to apply CE. There are no coattails. The use of BMG is already known by those in the industries. Applications are in it’s infintile stage. Thus you have a penny stock on the brink (for some time) of a break out. I do agree if one is looking for a short term spike or window, where Apple announces the use of BMG, it will cause the pps to go up. Revenues through actual contracts will sustain a longer rise in the pps.
Regardless of inflation due to a tariff, labor cost, taxes, fees, R&D, insurance and on and on. Whatever the reasons, when the costs of raw materials go up the cost of goods go up. Some product costs will remain the same by reducing the product content like a 16oz bag of chips that sold for $1.99 is now a 10oz bag for $1.99.
Other ways are to reduce labor costs or find a more efficient method to produce the same product. In the case of LQMT. Without a sale, without existing order renewals there is zero impact on product cost, only the cash burn rate increases, the debt increases if the actual cost for raw materials increase. Without massive sales I would not be too concerned about inflation regardless of the cause. Another way of seeing this is to look at the more obvious concern. A company without sales will always be in debt no matter what the excuses are, period!!!
Good luck to all
There are some websites out there that have been pumping LQMT. These WEBSITES IMHO, which have this past week began there rhetoric, will not affect long terms since they already have positions. In fact the spike may benefit long terms as new short terms take new positions and others hold on a little longer.
From an earlier post I recently stated that it is my belief that LQMT is on the cusp of something big. My post has nothing to do with these pumpers who get paid to pump and dump. But I do believe that LQMT will be earning a lot of revenue. The downside to this is that long terms like myself and others here are not getting any younger and do not want to wait much longer or cannot wait much longer.
To the poster/posters who believe the Apple/LQMT perpetual license agreement has an end. Then you would have to ask... why has LQMT not terminated the agreement if they could earn millions by selling CE PARTS to other clients all over the world and outside of the geographic areas of Eontec. Does it make sense for a company to keep itself in a perpetual $20 million dollar straight jacket?
It does if it has a waiver requested and granted by Apple, for the sole purpose of earning a lot of revenue from Apple within the next year.
I believe LQMT will be earning a lot of revenue from clients ordering parts which may begin this year.
Posters need not reply.
Good luck to all.
https://www.liquidmetal.com/cases-hinges-clamps/#comments
This should put the CE SUBJECT to rest once and for all.
This should put the Apple rumors to rest once and for all.
Now, unless a waiver is granted to LQMT by Apple as per their license agreement regarding CE. Then there will be no CE for the company. There will be rumors, but no CE.
The only other way around this perpetual license would be to terminate the agreement mutually or in court. For now I don’t see that happening.
When TS signed onto the agreement, I believe the company was headed for bankruptcy and under a lot of stress to either sell the patents or stay afloat. TS chose to stay afloat. But metaphorically, it was like having a gun pointed to his head.
That said. Public disclosure of a waiver has not been announced to grant permission for CE.
It is in the agreement and it is stated in every 10k 10q filed. !No CE! So first you either have to have knowledge of a waiver or thus you must conclude that any mention of CE is a rumor or speculation by anyone at all times. You do this to keep yourself honest and to focus on the areas that LQMT is working on as per there 10k’s and 10q’s and their website. Mr. Li, knew all of this when he and Eontec, invested in LQMT. If a waiver has been granted, it would be reflected in the financial statements by way of increased revenues by a substantial sum.
At the OH, it was mentioned here and posted on this board, that LQMT might be involved by innuendo and not verbal. If this were to turn out to be true, then there would be royalties also of large sums in the 10k report.
Right now from all info I read points to LQMT becoming an Eontec company here in North America minus the CE.
I hope this helps. Focus on the areas LQMT are stating that they are in. These are areas Mr. Li, is very familiar with.
Good luck to all
While I have a moment. Just wanted all to know that the company is on the cusp of something big.
No reply is necessary.
Andyd33, you’re correct. DJ Art Laboe I believe is credited with coining the phrase “oldies but goodies” back in 1957. I was thinking of that phrase and others like it in my post.
Follow the volume. The new insiders will be the outsiders as a contract nears announcement. Sometimes when you see a temporary spike upward with a spike in volume it may be the result of a rumor at the other end of the hard shake. Many times it explains equity activity when no new activity appears to be happening.
So where exactly are we? Well let’s not guess. According to LQMT they have disclosed 1000 interested clients as potential ordering clients. They used the adverb: ultimately, regarding those clients ordering. They have made at least 400 prototypes. Sold control to Eontec’s CEO. Moved to a new headquarters. Entered and continue entering trade shows. Added equipment. Added a blog in lieu of PR.
So now. Does that help? And yet most feel we’re in a better place. Just where the heck are we?
Good luck to all
https://www.liquidmetal.com/industry-events-18/
No comment.
Good luck to all
So to sum it up for everyone, we don’t need another prototype, a new liquid metal surfboard, a new MIM machine, a new open house, another trade show, a new rumor etc., etc. We just need to hear that someone (anyone)at that new location making a 6 figure salary or more has sold some lemonade, a dozen eggs, a loaf of bread. (j think?). Or even brand new pinball machines, where you can watch the players score millions of more points over the old steel pinball games. LQMT, we don’t need to buy the Brooklyn Bridge. Its time for you to build a toll booth. Its time to close The checking account and open up a savings account.
Does that $um it up?
Good luck to all
Spartan: https://www.liquidmetal.com/quantifying-dimensional-consistency/#comments ... regarding those canards...the link above is info sometimes hard to find. Take a look at the chart below where LQMT compared it’s method at the time with die casting and MIM.
Your assessment of TS may be correct. But LQMT is not a new company. It is the same old company with the same frame of mind with a new CEO, whose company from China, invested in and kept many hold overs from the past. When companies acquire a new ceo, or strategic partner they are not new.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot. Where the heck are those contracts? Lol’s, but sad.
Good luck to you
I7squared: the clamp was 6 x’s more efficient. The LQMT clamp does not cost 6x’s more than steel. Where are you getting your data regarding the cost of steel vs liquid metal?
Good luck to you.
Recently in October 2017, LQMT published results of a medical clamp prototype exceeding expectations needed to out class steel. Now one would think that the company did not come up with this idea on their own as a publicity stunt. One would think that a company making medical clamps wanted to know what and how the LQMT product could improve and compete with the steel clamp. So LQMT made the prototype clamp with a goal of 200 uses thus surpassing the current 100 applications for steel clamps before they needed to be replaced with a new clamp. Are you following me so far? Yes? Good! Well the Amorphous metal clamp, when tested, far surpassed the 200 application goal. Before the LQMT Medical clamp wore out They achieved as reported by LQMT, 636 applications. That is 6 x’s better than the steel clamp.
So the big question is this...where the heck are the orders for the clamps???
Wait there’s more... Over the years LQMT has received 100’s of requests, have made dozens of prototypes. Many, which have been touted by LQMT and are used to promote LQMT with great success and far surpassing existing materials. So let’s ask ourselves. Where the heck are the orders, the contracts, the revenues.
It would seem that there is a corporate mindset that the company is run like a non-profit charitable organization, where the employees draw a salary and nothing else. Perhaps a change of business format needs to be implemented.
Since LQMT burns a lot of cash and wastes (not always) a lot of time when manufacturing a successful prototype, maybe they should be compensated for the total cost it takes to manufacture the prototype, when no orders are placed.
Just who the heck is negotiating prototype activity. Seems like no one is. Seems like a good way to lose a lot of money too in the process of succeeding. Thank heavens for us, thank heavens Mr Li, has very deep pockets. The last time management ran the company like this it took 2 bailouts to stave off bankruptcy.
Mr. Cook, do you need a prototype? Oh no, I forgot, you own the license. At least the company and shareholders received compensation for all of those prototypes.
LQMT, are you listening? You’re not a charity. You’re in debt. You do not need another tax write off. After all the company is doing fine and is on schedule as per your blogs and our patience. Right?
Good luck to all.
You need hype, rumor or speculation or insider activity to bounce off of .40. What you have here is a sell off from the peak and a hold from traders who bought in and from traders who averaged up on existing holdings hoping for the real deal. So now you have the bulk of the stock bought in around .27 hanging in. Some who have a lower average have a profit while those who bought in at a slightly higher price have a small loss. That is why you do not have or will not have a bounce off of .40 or higher at this time. All can choose what reality they want to focus on. But reality points to a bounce off of today’s pps or a lower one. And this too will be impacted by the 10K coming soon.
Good luck to all
Whether the pps is .21 or .25, all here would agree, that a bounce off of .21 or .25 would be far better, than a bounce off of .16 or .18. So as to the reasons for why the pps bounces between.21 and.25 may not be as relevant, as to the fact, that it is no longer trading around .06 if it were not for the buy in of 2016. Keep in mind less revenue has been reported this past year so far.
Reality points to .06. Mr. Li believed around .18 in 2016, and anticipation right now points to around .23. All three valuations are correct.
So for whatever reasons the pps is trading at these days, all are in a better place today.
Be happy as we hope for positive news one day. Things could be a lot worse if you apply facts as we see them from the 10Q’s. Year over year.
Good luck to all
LQMT seems to be trying to secure clients by whatever obscure means they believe will work. Perhaps obscure to us and not to them. No major revenue announcement in 8 years. Whatever clients they may have attracted in the past has not panned out nor have any that did produced significant revenue. LQMT ‘s revenue was down 75% last quarter on a annual basis. They have no investor relations group/marketing group to speak of and have very little investor contacts with the outside world to attract interest. Their new resources brought in by the Eontec investment via Mr. Li looks to change their past failures and improve the company’s poor track record.
Internally within their industry LQMT is well known. Marketing their new technologies appears to be their biggest obstacle.
Despite the lack of PR and past record. I believe the necessity for improving products from other industries will land LQMT financial success.
Good luck to all
10k due anywhere from 03-01-18 through 03-30-18 based on past recent 10k fillings. LQMT has no date for their 10k reports set in stone. Very few B.B. ‘s ever do. On average LQMT files around the 10th of March give or take 4 days.
Many of the bridge pins for C.F. Martin & Co. (guitars) are made from liquid metal. Their top line guitar sells for $150,000.00 The liquid metal bridge pins can also be found on models under $5,000.00 as well. Revenue from these pins cannot be determined since no retail outlet lists the liquid metal pin for sale. All other pin constructions can be found for sale from $4.00 to 50.00.
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There is no silence! You can find information like this from last year on websites here in the USA and China.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2017top10/2017-04/24/content_29050796.htm
http://m.nasdaq.com/article/apple-inc-has-another-china-problem-cm923207
And do you know the importance of this? Yes you do. Why? Because everyone here on this board are very intelligent.
Of the top 5 selling smartphone companies in China, Eontec maintains a publicly disclosed working relationship with three of them and another two that did not even make the top 5. The technology from the LM PATENTS bought by Eontec, have helped Eontec, in doing business with all of these companies. Now on the surface this benefits Eontec. Companies like Oppo and Vivo are new to the scene of smartphones. But they are huge in China. What ever is learned by Eontec in China will eventually spill over to LM, here in the USA, whether it be CE, Medical or Auto etc. The outcomes of successful relationships with the tech. Companies above and others in China, will benefit LQMT here. Perhaps LM is very quiet and with reason. But Eontec cannot hide. If correct, there sales and revenue should be increasing this year.
I based mid April on a highly often accurate tech journalist that writes for an Asian magazine. The insights of her work on Apple are about 85% accurate. There is always room for error. But I would anticipate volume to increase if correct.
Good luck to all
I take all of the blame. It must be me. Probably without question it must be my grammatical speech impediment.
Its not about an idea for LM. Its not about a blade or an auto part, medical part or any other. Its not about Apple inc. I can’t believe I am writing this. I can’t believe I am posting this. I thought and still believe all here are very intelligent some perhaps more than others. As for me I am at the bottom of the heap. I am on a scale of an amoeba. To anyone who thinks Apple advertises or by association markets LQMT is living in the past. If anyone believes APPLE INC. contributes to getting the word out about LQMT must be in a delusional world. This is not stated in anyway to demean anyone. I am stating it because only companies who are known to be manufacturing and working with Apple Inc. have recognition. Does the volume of this stock reflect any Apple inc. Assoctiation? !!!NO!!’ None whatsoever!!! So lets get over it. Until you see a future PR from either this company or Apple inc. there are no more new coat tails.
The only present association with Apple inc. is based on the past MTA, Renewals and by those here. Some by word of mouth, a few bloggers, hype, and speculation create a spike and interest in the stock volume and share price in both directions. Just by the low volume alone and the low number of shareholders in LQMT should tell anyone, that for now there are no marketing benefits today with Apple. Let’s put it another way. The world knows Apple inc. exists. NOT LQMT! Many know of Foxconn! Not LQMT! The world knows of Qualcomm, another Apple inc. supplier etc., etc. NOT LQMT! Maybe 10% or more heard of Himax Technology, not LQMT!!! Anyone who thinks that the Apple/LQMT association is still benefiting LQMT by way of marketing, insults the Apple name. The pps alone without a sale would be at the very least $1.75+. If this is not clear enough, then I really have it all wrong and everyone else has it right and .23 is really amazing thanks Apple and the fantastic way in which LQMT has marketed itself.
AND NO! LQMT is not a new company! It is an old company with many of the old players holding new positions in the same old company that has a new CEO! A new CEO whom like Apple has saved it possibly from extinction! It is the same old company who has through R&D and evolving partnerships and newly acquired resources has managed to survive. Not on sales. Not on marketing. But on it’s patents, on it’s technology and on it’s anticipated hope for a new deal, a big day, an announcement of a future based on actual growing revenues and not on present and future speculation based solely on a past association.
To achieve this. LQMT needs and needed to market itself through mass media to attract more clients, to let the world know they do in fact exist (while waiting for the Apple inc. association to pay off). I can ask stock traders if They heard of LQMT? And we all know what the answer would be. I can ask anyone in general if they heard of LQMT? And we all know the answer. In the world of commerce LM is minuscule. Yet it has existed for a very long time. Constant R&D is a necessity for LQMT. Otherwise it too will fall by the wayside like a Polaroid camera. Except it will never experience the success. I know very little about penny stocks. This is the only one I have. So I will conclude that I know not what I write and that everyone else does when it comes to opposing points of view. I am just so ignorant. Or maybe there just might be some truth to my rant.
Good luck to all