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Seems like we will be entering either bankruptcy or a death blow of dilution soon. Steipp has made this stock formless and void! It's over!
What is your exit strategy Watts. Going down with the ship, or salvaging what you can?
Apple does need liquidmetal. And liquidmetal will see significant revenue from Apple!!!
By now while the price is still low!!
Apple will use liquidmetals formula, and Engel for the machines. It won't be long and we will all be rich!!!
By more shares now like you did when it was at .32. It's a much better deal at .07.
"A lot if investors going to get dirty"
When your ALREADY wallowing in the mud, What's a few more sprinkles of dirt.
Does Apple really have what it needs from lqmt? Renewed agreement every year indicates they still have more they want!
Why hasn't Apple bought lqmt yet? Why reveal ones cards before the game is over. That would just be plain stupid!
Is lqmt worth more than 40 million? If not insiders are pretty stupid for not selling there shares when the stock was priced much higher than it is now!
Been there, heard that for five years now. Maybe someone should share this with the share price.
Several questioned bringing Steipp on board as CEO because of his lack of experience in working with start up companies.
It's been this lack of experience that underestimated the time and money it would take to bring liquidmetal to profits.
The writing is on the wall for more liquidmetal dilution.
No Solid PR's pointing to significant revenue any time soon.
Stock still valued under .010 per share so no tapping into the equity line.
Only 4 months until the companies current cash is burned up.
Our next cc will be nothing but forward looking statements with no real meat to bite into.
If you think Barney's dumping of his 20 million shares affected the SP wait until liquidmetals next 200 million shares start getting dumped into the market.
I'm staying in to see if we get bought out before the dilution hits. Otherwise plan on seeing .02-.05 per share in the very near future.
Unfortunately, We probably won't know until June like last year.
I have to agree w Watts. The potential train has run its course for lqmt.
The only thing that will change the course of the lqmt share price for the better at this stage of the game are significant revenues.
So far Steipp has not been able to produce such revenue, and instead heading us toward either bankruptcy or a buy out.
No bridge pins in products page. Maybe you saw them in your dream about lqmt making you millions.
So many PR's this last month,
YET
Still no contracts reported making us significant revenue.
Share price is still tanking under .10 cents a share.
Still dishing out 2 million a quarter with cash to last us until June 2016.
Still vulnerable to another dilution from management with their 200 million shares to keep us a float past June.
Still paying management huge salaries off the hard earned money of shareholders.
Steipp and company can keep their fluff and stuff PR's. PR us when you have significant revenue or a buy out to share with us.
Let the liquidmetal bracelets role out!
I doubt apple will use liquidmetal on a band. Way to expensive.
Absolute conjecture with no proof. Not even a possibility on Engel's website.
Gamesc quoted from Engels website!
It's true, look into it!
All customers wanting to use the Engel IM machine developed for the use of liquidmetal have to go through Liquidmetal Tech for the contracts and work through liquidmetal to purchase the machines according to the partnership. They cannot go directly through Engel to purchase machines.
Unless a company is absolutely CERTAIN that their plans, and even their calculated risk, will lead to success (which requires one to be omniscient) they are working from an element of HOPE.
Sorry I don't believe that any human institution regardless of how much human planning they do and success they have had operate without a level of hope. This does not negate the importance of human planning, or measuring ones chance of success as you say. But can any company run by fallible human beings really be 100 percent sure of success? If not, hope comes into the picture. It's not a bad thing, just a reality of life.
Read my last post. Engel is not omniscient, omnipotent, or infallible. There plans, as well thought out as they may be, still are built on a foundation of hope that they will succeed. Hope is a basic human human element if life.
All plans and executions are built on the foundation of hope, unless one is omniscient and all powerful, which Engel is not.
Engel waited until their IM machine was perfected and liquidmetal received their certification before bringing them before hundreds of their customers in this way.
It would be nice to see production orders/contracts come from this. Engel is investing a lot of coin and putting their reputation on the line for liquidmetal in the HOPE of seeing their own IM machines make them a lot of money.
If they want to use them in non-CE, you better believe it!!!!!!
So Visser sold off another 2.2 million shares in January. Not a big deal. Regardless of the arbitration, he is not an angry bird, and has done well financially with his investment in liquidmetal.
Visser is much smarter than most of us, and planned his investment with liquidmetal for a sure profit.
February 5 is the end of Apples extension with Liquidmetal. It will be interesting to see if they renew for another year.
Many here write off any good fortune for liquidmetal in their relationship with Apple. I am not inclined to do so for the following reasons:
1. Apple picked the guy-Steipp- they wanted in the drivers seat of liquidmetal when they initially forged the deal with the company. I don't believe they are going to give Steipp the shaft, and have something in the works for liquidmetal to make revenue from Apple either directly or indirectly.
2. Steipp has been tight lipped for 5 years now regarding LQMT. Why would he be so loyal to secrecy for Apple if he knew Apple was planning zip in regard to using Liquidmetal and creating some stream of revenue or a buyout of lqmt.
3. Apple continues to renew every year with lqmt, and I believe it's because some kind of deal has been forged between Apple and Liquidmetal in terms of a buy out once Apple perfects liquidmetal for mass production.
4. Apple is producing patents outside of CE and will want to own this company to have full control over CE and non CE IP.
5. I don't believe that Steipp and other insiders have been holding on to their millions of shares for a buyout of a few pennies per share. They have had plenty of time to unload their shares when the price was well over 50 cents a share, but they have held long. They know something is coming.
6. There are still some aspects of the relationship with liquidmetal and Apple that have not been disclosed to the public. A year after the licensing agreement with Apple the SEC reported filings between Apple and Liquidmetal that were not required to be disclosed to the public for the protection of Apple.
I still believe this stock is a long shot. But I have stayed long for the above reasons. And I haven't been convinced otherwise by posters here for the last five years.
Management is trying to get the stock above.10, but so far have been unsuccessful to keep it above. We should see another PR fluff and stuff come out soon with another attempt. They need to tap into the line of credit, and this requires the stock to stabilize at .10 or above.
So far non of the PR's or any of the communication from management has really been of solid news of significant revenue. I have been invested here for 5years and unfortunately have learned not to trust managements communication anymore.
For example, last year in a cc Steip said we would see new revenues come the last quarter of 2015. The details he left out in the cc was that it would only be roughly 25,000 in new revenue, compared to the cash burn of 2 million that quarter. This kind of communication has been happening for 5 years now, and does not build trust with the investment community.
The knife contract is another case in point. No dollar amount or numbers were attached to the PR for the knife contract when it first came out. Many speculated on the potential revenue of this contract and the stock price rose to over .25. Then investors eventually found out we were loosing money on the knife contract and we sunk down to our current .06-.09 range.
Over the years I have seen many PR's come out regarding breakthrough machines, hundreds of interested clients, in the midst of shipping parts, and yet none of the PR's have lived up to their promise.
I still believe long investors have a 1 in 10 chance of making money from this stock. But it will only happen when and if a buy out occurs from another company like Apple or Engel. This is a long shot. Steipp does not have the experience, nor Liquidmetal the coin to gets this company to break even, and his days are numbered because of the cash burn with the company.
Still believe in the technology, not in the current management. I will stick to my long shot that Apple values the technology and will not want to leave it in the hands of bad management. Therefore, I will wait for a buy out. But thanks for thinking of me with your advice.
Waiting for a buy out. It's the only chance we have to make up our losses.
Nothing solid to sustain the pop. A PR fluff and stuff about a contract with no dollar amount, oh and another one of Engels symposiums that's going to change the world of lqmt as we know it.
Round and round we go. Many new lqmt koolaid drinkers.
And what exactly did we gain from Engels last symposium? Show me one contract.
Yep, been seeing those BS PR's for 5 years now!
Wait till the worth of this contract is announced. Then tell me it's not smoke and mirrors.
Frankly, I am disappointed with the liquidmetal/Engel partnership.
They (Engel/lqmt) have been boasting breakthroughs in the liquidmetal technology and machines for four years now, but no significant contracts or revenue to speak of.
As far as I am concerned, this symposium doesn't mean much to me accept a glorified dog and pony show to try and hype the share price up for lqmt.
Let's see some real contracts and real revenue to legitimize this company. Until then it's all smoke and mirrors!
Most unfortunate.
Oh boy. Another PR to try and get this above .10, so they can tap their line of credit.
YET, as usual, still absolutely no news of significant revenue to stop the bleeding of 1.5-2 million burn per quarter.
Management- PLEASE SHOW US WHAT THE MEDICAL CONTRACT IS WORTH. Investors deserve to know this information.
Management is going to have to do better than coming out with another vague PR with no numbers if they want to get this past .10 again.
At least we are headed in the right direction. The question is for how long, and what will be the next catalyst to try and get this moving past .10?
Radio frequency can be transmitted through liquidmetal. Look it up.
Silence has never been an indicator that something is going on with LQMT-more the opposite!
I have heard that every year for 4 years now.
So far I don't see anything that suggests 2016 will be any different than previous years.
In fact, 2016 seems to be the worse year ever for Liquidmetal based on the share price, running out of funding, and not being able to tap their line of credit because shares are under .10 cents.
The only thing that will redeem this company is if they have worked out some kind of deal for a buy out from one of their partners. Otherwise you and the rest of us can kiss our investment money goodby before the year is up.
ISO Cert and we can't even get up past .08. Pathetic!
The SP has been under .10 not because of Visser dumping. It's because this is what the market has valued the technology's UNDER THE CURRENT MANAGEMENTS CONTROL.
The Apple hype has run its course the last five years and will not provide anymore wind for the LQMT sail.
Only if/when we see the technology come under a new management-Apple, Engel, Materion, Lockheed?-will we see the SP rise significantly.
As predicted, Steipp has proven that he does not have the experience or know how needed to get a starter company off the ground. His past board members have sold off their shares seeing this first hand.
The fact that no dollar amount has been associated to the medical device production is a very clear indicator that it will not generate any significant revenue. Management intentionally is keeping investors in the dark because the know the low revenue to be generated. This is how Steipp has operated for 5 years+ now.
I'm afraid this stock has been nothing but smoke and mirrors.
Either this company goes down if the current management continues to run it, or it changes hands with a new management with the finances and know how to make liquidmetal a success.