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Yes a lot more realistic! But I believe they could do better. But in the time frame we're all hoping for, I doubt it would be more than $ 2-3.00.
I really appreciate that. This does seem way too good to be true. And I like to be more realistic but that amount is beyond dreaming. You need someone to pay that amount and in the time frame we're all expecting, I doubt that would occur.
Who really knows for sure? Anything under $ 2 Billion would be disappointing. Especially after hearing about all the recent acquisition have been going for! Interest rates are low and the stock market is about at the all time high! There's money to spend!
IMHO, the longer it drags out, the higher the price!
I just left a voice message! I'll let you know!
The BOD apparently are not market savvy in the way of promoting and educating the investment community! AND for all those that think I mean a pump and dump, think again!! Every night of the week a CEO is promoting his company on Mad Money on CNBC. Now, I'm not suggesting a national show like that but, they could have done a much better job of letting the market knows about their patents.
If and if there's patents are what they say they are, this company would sell for billions AND not just one billion. If it ever does sell for just a billion then, I believe they sold out. Or the patents could be tweaked a bit to avoid infringement.
I am being told every single VoIP call is using their RBR patent, correct? Is this what their telling us? Really, every single freaking call? All these major players are infringing on this patent? Is this what we're being told? And one billion is all it's worth? Come on, get real!
Absolutely stocks trade over their acquisition price many times! And with and there are 30 million shorted ( which I doubt ) then a short squeeze would occur!
Not true!!! If they have a chance if not it will short squeeze over and above the agreed price!!
I seriously doubt it's shorted 100 million!! We could only hope it's that much.
Budman33, where do you hear VPLM is going after companies ?
Rick85, I have been attention to the dilution based on the PPS! And the REVERSE SPLIT THATS COMING! IMHO
Rockstar55....seems like nobody can give the correct information out. But, from experience, it's probably close to 350 million by now. Just based on the current PPS. TWO CENTS!
This is a Reverse Split waiting to happen. Management doesn't seem to be too concerned with the PPS. Just seem to want to hand out shares to athletes. Which hasn't done a thing for the appreciation of the stock.
It's dilution, dilution and then more dilution. Facts are facts! Reverse is going...IMHO. And from experience, this is just what will happen.
Thrill97.....you have to read between the lines. But, maybe investing in low cap stocks isn't for you? This was incredible news but, you have to understand that possibly creating revenue prior to any agreed acquisition, CAN ONLY ENHANCE the purchase price.
Remember, SourceFire sold for $ 2.7 Billion dollars. That's with a "B" and they only had $ 4.9 million net revenue. RBR alone would or should produce more than that! IMHO Remember, every single Voip call is using this patent. SnapChat, just turned down $ 3 Billion from FaceBook. Do the math. But, who really knows for sure.
The numbers are there, but as I have stated countless times, management hasn't educated the investment community on how these patents will generate revenue. Now, if any licensing agreement is established, we just might see that.
Surferdude33, I agree!!
Sometimes you have to read between the lines. Things are heating up. Need to get a number of companies interested so, a bidding war can develop. This along with a possible short squeeze. We might just see a few dollar purchase price.
Todays news is exactly what shareholders needed to hear. Being informed that the talks are on going and the possibilities are still alive for an acquisition.
Also, any licensing fees would only enable them to get a higher price.
I'm sticking with my April/May closing date.
Also, is there an update Short count?
Smcluke I can understand what your saying in your first paragraph, as I don't seem to understand their method of making their company know in the investment community! I guess they feel they have a few large companies interested in acquiring their company and that's all their interested in. Which if they know what their doing, is fine with me. As long as they get top dollar!\
BUT, from what these patents (technology) actually do. Billions of dollars is extremely reasonable, Especially from what some other companies have recently sold for. Remember EVERY SINGLE VoIP call is infringing on the RBR alone! How to you place a value on it? But, as we stand the investment community has no clue about this company, hence the share price.
$ 3 to 4 billion is not unreasonable.
As we stand now, "they have not educated (monetized) how these patents generate (potentially) REVENUE,,
PERIOD!!!!!
November 22nd has come and gone....
Now only three more weeks after Thanksgiving, then we'll be into the Holiday week, then New Years!
IMHO, we're looking at a late January, February deal at the earliest. The longer the bigger is what I thinking.
CEOs...Thanks for the support. I have been saying this for a long time. An investment valuation is what it is called. I just hope their better at valuating these patent (s) to suitors, than they are to the investment community. And I have confidence that they do.
In order to really understand this. If everyone would tell a few of their friends about this stock, I am sure you'll get similar responses back from them. It'll be, "okay, now how are they going to utilize these patents to generate revenue. How much do your charge, etc." It's interesting, YES, I understand, especially how some of these other recent acquisitions have sold for, with little to zero revenue. The potential with VPLM, is tremendous. We seem to have become desensitized with the dollar value. You don't sell a billion dollar company in a few months. It takes time.
But, obviously with the recent decline in the PPS, most don't really believe in it. Which is fine. If you look back from below a penny, the PPS has always gone up and pulled back, countless times. Over and over again. And it will continue to do so, all the way up the a dollar plus. And it's really hard to stomach but, you have to look at the long term potential.
Does anyone really think the PPS tanked just because someone sold 1.5 million shares? Versus 834 million outstanding. I seriously doubt it very much.
Whomever did sell, probably put in a market order versus a limit order and it forced the price down drastically. OR, that word that begins with the letter, D.
Can anyone get us an updated Shortlist count?
But, what a tremendous opportunity to purchase and accumulate more.
IMHO
Spec Investor...you're in it for less than me? You dog.
Another thing that maybe occurring and we can only hope, is that the short position (s) may have increased! IMHO, I am beginning to believe more and more, that a short squeeze may happen. Over and above the agreed purchase price per share. Maybe only for a bit but, it's possible.
Because WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND, WOULD BE SELLING NOW?
They're going to be looking back and kicking themselves once a deal is struck!
You may notice that the PPS has move tremendously ON VERY LITTLE VOLUME!!!!!!!! How high will it than move on high volume on the buy side.
IMHO, we're getting to the last few days of the month and with December days away, it's becoming apparent that no deal will be stuck by the end of this year.
Therefore, some have lost their patience. Great buying opportunity thou, if you have the money to do so. IMHO
NRG...No problem, apology accepted.
My point being, is that IMHO, the BOD haven't shown how revenue can be generated with these patent (s). And that most people who you may ask, don't understand the potential of them.
Now, remember, the word "potential" acquisition was used in the last PR. Maybe a ploy to show that management may now want to license them versus selling the whole company. Who really knows. But, it would be nice to keep the shareholders informed. I am sure most would agree.
When you hear and read about companies going for billions of dollars with zero to 4.9 net revenue (As SourceFire did, for $ 2.7 Billion) it really makes you wonder and dream of the potential buyout price with Voip-Pal.com. How can one not.
We're talking about EVERY SINGLE Voip call is currently using our RBR patent. WOW, really? Most people you tell this to, either don't understand and or believe it. They believe these patents can be tweaked to avoid infringements. Or why is the PPS only where it is.
The math alone makes one think billions of dollars at the minimum. But, you first need someone willing to pay for it.
The PPS has fluctuated 15-20% +++ since I loaded up at DOUBLE ZERO EIGHT!! And it will continue to do so. One just has to remain calm and not panic and stomach it. IMHO
Positive NRG...Again, what are you talking about. You really need to go back and re-read my posts....your not even close to being a bigger back to Voip-Pal.com than I. Trust me.
Why someone would be selling now, it's beyond me. You need to question them, not me.
My educated guess would be that they're not convinced the value of these patents. OBVIOUSLY. That goes without saying, Or why would they be selling, huh. But, as I have stated numerous times, management has failed to educate the investment community on how these patents generate revenue. Period, as Obama would say. Hence, the reason for the PPS being where it is.
Just ask a few of your friends, like I have. And you'll hear reactions. Most believe it's too good to be true. Most don't grasp the concept and aren't patient enough.
And 1.5 million volume isn't much at all. They probably put in a market order instead of a limit.
Hopefully, it's being shorted.
I would only acknowledge that management could be doing a much better job of keeping us informed as to the progress of any potential acquisition. although they may not be able to do so.
It's not over 'til it's over.
Smcluke, I have been saying that for months.
This is a tremendous opportunity to buy cheap shares.
There are some that just don't "Get it" and then there are those that do. If it were easy to become a millionaire, then everyone would be one.
People panic and sell. I find this to be humorous to say the least. Those who sell, will be haunted for the rest of their lives, when this company sells for whatever price someone is willing to acquire it for.
Listen, this stock has fluctuated time and time again 15-20% over and over again, from $ .008 to even when we went to $ .02. AND it will continue to do so. All the way up to over $ 1.00+ per shares. Experience will win out. IMHO
JC RI, from your lips to God's ears. But, you still haven't justified the reason for your projections. Either has management. At least not to the investment community. But, I hope they have done a better job to the potential suitors.
"To the moon, Alice"
IMHO, if nothing occurs by this Friday, then we slid into January. The chances of anything happening in the three weeks in December is low. But, stranger things have happened. But, I just don't believe it'll happen this year. The first pitch will be thrown out, before this closes.
The longer the better, for a higher PPS.
JC RI, just curious, what are you basing your projected acquisition price on? How have you monetized these patent (s)?
If they are what they say they are, how does anyone come up with an amount.
I just hope they do or are doing a better job of estimating (monetizing) a true value of the company, better than how they have been educating the investment community. IMHO.
This is the strangest if not the oddest thing. To
be waiting to find out what a buyout PPS is going to be. I never have experienced anything like this.
After reading and hearing all of these other buyout amounts, we have become desensitized to the dollar amount. Is it going to be a billion, $ 1.5 billion, $ 3 billion, etc., kind of comical, if you ask me.
The timing is right, with interest rates being low, and the stock market at the all-time high, it's the perfect time the get the highest price possible.
I like to dream just like everyone else but, I also want to be realistic. But, when you think about what the RBR only does with every single Voip call made per day, the dollar amount is scary. The bottom line is, you still need someone willing to pay the amount.
IMHO, the longer it takes, the higher the PPS will be.
Or motivated to raise their original offer!
New updated Outstanding share count,
is?
Are we fully diluted yet? Does anyone know the total outstanding share count?
But, they have approx., 340 million users.
If these patent (s) are what they say they are, then $ 3 billion should be the minimum but, I am more realist that it'll be between $ 1.2 to $ 1.8 billion as a good ballpark price. IMHO. I am assuming fully diluted at 901 million.
But, reading between the lines, it appears they're using monetizing as leverage to up the acceptance price. I would think they're trying to get a bidding war going.
But, who really knows. Everything is purely speculation at this point. I for one, would have loved to have read the other day, that VPLM rejected $ 3 billion from Facebook, rather than SnapChat.
Can someone tell me the UPDATED Outstanding share count?
REVERSE SPLIT??? Isn't this a potential occurrence when I stock gets diluted and diluted? Just a matter of time, IMHO.
Apparently that's what has happened, according to the press release. Which maybe a good think...but, like I have (IMHO) estimated, we're looking at a April/May close, but, now maybe even longer. Which is fine with me....long-term capital gains would save me a ton of money.
Clearly a poor choice of words..."potential"...not what shareholders really want to hear, now do we? They should be announcing rejecting offers rather than potential acquisition. Seems now that they're looking for an alternative to a sale.
There are reasons why the PPS is falling. Something must have happened. IF not, then why at this stage of the game, haven't they updated us on how the acquisition talks are going?
WHAT'S THE OUTSTANDING SHARE COUNT NOW?
IMHO, a reverse split is going to happen sooner rather than later.
It's happen soon than later. Dilution and a steady drop in PPS equals Reversal. Trust me, it'll happen. It's not if, it's when. Usually does. IMHO.
It's unfortunate thou. But, that's the way these pennies usually go.
Very impressive and well written.....curious where they came up with the target of $ 3.00 ($ 2.7 Billion value)?
If nothing happens by Nov. 22nd, we're headed into Jan./Feb. with an April/May close.....Nothing, IMHO will occur in December.
After the 22nd, we have Thanksgiving and then only three weeks we're into the Holiday season....IMHO, nothing is going to happen during this time.
It'll be January before you know it, then the Super Bowl....
I did not know that. But, they should and I have just the guy.
I am a little confused with your posts. Are you positive on the stock or negative?
Yeah, I sold mine....They're not in business anymore. Tight float and shares squeezed. IMHO. No one answers the phone, what does that tell you?
I'll wait for another pull back to $ .002 in a month or so, then buy back in.
Still no word back from Investment Relations.
Not a good sign. Has anyone else tried to contact them?