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You guys sound like abbott and costello;; who's on first. j
Just remember to choose yoour words carefully. some people may get the idea since Tom is ceo of swvc, major major owner of controlling stock, has stock inmany entities and sits in many seats. That whatever he has we have in SWVC. If it is not listed in our files it belongs to TOM not to SWVC. jmho.
Like seaway valley fund. It's Tom's he use's it for funding.
We could be at this all night. When it's in Black and White then we know. Otherwise no see'--no be..gett'n late see you guys tommorow on the upswing, greeeeeeeeeen.
Well Sunshine, it appears that no one presently tuned in knows an answer to your question.. I think its a good one. It belongs to kevin, I think.. Some times I think if Tom's name is mentioned anywhere in a filing. People on this board seem to assume we own it. I only go by Swvc files. We own Wisebuys and Hacketts, a mention swcc and that's it until new filings say otherwise.
This thing is gettingg to be more like bowl of spaggetti. hmmmmm must be time for dinner. thxs
I thought I just saw at the end of Apr. filing Tom was Pres and CEO. Today's Kevin is CEO
Enough excitement for one day, least for once were even, time to go cut the grass and get ready for more DIH DIT DIH DIT and now NEWS for tommorow. catch all later..WHO KNOWS--MAYBE NEWS= MAYBE GREEN==IT WILL BE==FRIDAY
as charlie brown would say " GOOD GRIEF" if we finish with no loss today. That would set a new record for the week, wouldn't it?????
.02 would be great. but like they say
BETTER TO AIM HIGH AND MISS THAN AIM LOW AND HIT!!!!!
Wish the mm's would jump on the otherside of the fence and at least fake a run to accumulate some interest???
Tell me about it bought at ask on open and haven't been back yet as far as I know
Seems to be no one wants to sell this low.. All other low trades seem to have been manipulated..Every time lately someone buys at ask.. MM's take it down a notch. Seems real screwy
I hope this 1/2 mil trade is the one they have been dropping for today. Or are they going for another big one in the .011 range?
Don,t know about anybody else But i bought at ask this morn..
ok now it can go up... got it
Good Morn,n all. Can,t go up before they fill my 114000 at ASK. Then up and away and GREEEEEEEEEEN for a change.
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I LIKE GREEN REMINDS ME OF $$$$$$$$$$$
OOOOPS HAD TO CORRECT BID TO ASK
CDK congrads on getting more shares today..I'm in higher, Free trades today, couldn't use them nothing to trade. ALL IN HERE. And just to top it off E-trade won't clear my funds til tommorow.. Talk about wrong timing WHEW!!!!!
I remember from past dealings with the tax loss item. You have to have it totally cleared and settled before the End of the year. So once Christmas comes there,s no time for settlement left because of Holidays, and weekends.
I can,t remember all the details but in Illinois and New York, Personally yes, because of Corp Ownership. Not so in Florida, that's why mainly I live Down here. No personal income tax now. Before everything was tied up in Florida Trusts. Most likely Good excuse for florida filings at ??SAIL POINT. Just a guess. The taxes in those two states are rediculas.
Abby, I agree! but what you mention seems to be a carbon copy of my track record before coming to IHUB.. Our culmination of the fiasco bickering the other day hopefully was the end to such nonsense. thxs.
enjoy your evening.
I say old man:: Bit of alright eh what::
thxs for some sanity AP
No No cannot dump shares.. Got to hold strong and contribute to this mass confusion. But hang in there is my feeling. Tom will p/r us, we,ll get a 3rd , o/s will increase, bottom line will increase and we will know less than we know now..
AWWWWWW , I think you got an indication with that great start off trade this morning of $6.00 trade this morn.. heh eh heh
Good Morning Thurston: Was it your great saying " IT IS BETTER TO HAVE AND NOT NEED, RATHER TO NEED AND NOT HAVE"
I see the mm's are testing again with 500 shrs
Good Morn,n all. I see most are not even saying good morning today. Lot of posters are probably gun shy from being jumped on yesterday. Hopeing for a green close,
My last post for the evening. " SAD POST" I do not like seeing you two guys leave this forum..I really appriciated you help and guidance..But I don't blame you. But unfortunately this forum has degraded somewhat since I first came a little over a month ago. You work hard , do lots of DD, and have it thrown back in your faces by those who don't do anything or get it right. glty both--AL
I only have one more post after this one. If no one else will answer you maybe this will help. For the present, don't get too hyped up about a GS Co. coming into the fold. There is no concrete evidence supporting this. It is only supposed that one will be the 3rd to be aquired by SWVC. TOM at this time ,cannot say yes or no. So this forum has a lot of disccusion about this. (discussion means guessing) Right now no
one can tell you YES OR NO.
Red-- I haven't learned how to read charts yet, but if things get any tighter. It looks like the charts are going into flatline. Should we call the paramedic's HE HE
No funds until thurs. heh heh Thats why I keep saying FRIDAY FRIDAY
How about friday.
Then everyone can burn up the wires guessing again.
yep mm's really chaseing this morn'n. ask was down to .013 and with one little trade they jumped ask back up to .0146
somebody went out and sprayed water on that pps hill we are trying to climb. Now it's turned to ice and we're slipp'n and slide'n
MM,s may be nice to us today. So far last night no t or z trades and none this morning either. Seems like when they do that stuff. Anything could happen
That's been tightened to .0135-.014 couple of minutes ago
You just have to wait til friday, maybe, friday, maybe , friday, maybe friday maybe, Hmmmmmm sounds a little like our theme song for the last month or so. I wonder which friday. I,m running out of fridays. Gettting close to end of year. WHERE'S THE BEEF
Good Morn'n all..
LAST POST FOR TODAY.. GOT MY FREEBIES...
TOM like Teddy, walk softly and carry big stick
TOM like Red Ryder of old westerns: Just a peaceable Man..
he and Little Beaver fought and chased all though the movie
See Ya in the Morn...Night all tooodles
SB. I understand what you are saying..If anyone does DD its you!
What I am reading is his Greenshift E-mail ending. Ceo postion is only figurehead.. New guy coming in.. still looking.
No comment on lesser entities, Possibly only coverd by being active on Board. From what I have read and heard hear, Tom being active on BOD will now sit and do nothing. He is involved with other items. So no comment on other entities..I have taken the implicatio that I,m working on other things for SWVC with my 100% acvtive envolvement. Once again I appriciate your work and advice. But right now, this is my slant.
Abby: I value your words of wisdom and appriciate them..Maybe I,m too trusting. But I find it difficult to accept the notion that Kyle would have posted this item. If it were not true. At the same time I am also guilty of having my own interpretations of what I read..AL
and I do enjoy::::
I doubt Tom would say he had a hard time Understanding Mr. Kriesler if he was working closely to get one of his Co,s. He also further indicates he is only a figurehead..On the BOD and major stockholder is All.
here you go everyone
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Tom Scozzafava <tscozzafava@greenshift.com>
Date: Dec 17, 2007 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: Greenshift Restucture
To: Kyle Gudgeon <kgudgeon@gmail.com>
Kyle,
Honestly, I have a hard time understanding what it is Mr. Kreisler is
trying to do myself. Despite this email address (which is ceasing
shortly) I play no active role in GreenShift and an increasingly lesser
role in GS AgriFuels. I am a large shareholder in GSGF and that is
about it. My role as CEO was a placeholder role until professional
management was brought in. We are seeking that now. I will remain on
the BOD there and remain an "active" board member.
Regarding the rest of the GSHF portfolio, I can't help you. I am 100%
concentrating on SWVC.
Tom
Kyle Gudgeon wrote:
> Hey Mr. Tom, I am somewhat confused on the whole Greenshift
> restructuring. I am curious who is going to take on everyones debt.
> GSCL now owns GSGF instead of Greenshift (60%). Greenshift is the
> parent company that will no longer be "owners" of the the other GS
> companies. "Greenshift" is now going to be a financier for the other
> GS companies? (Cleantech, Agri, EnviroSci, Energy) through Greenshift
> Project? Who is going to take on the debt of these companies, mostly
> CLeantech and AgriFuels? Also from Mr. Kevin's PRs to consolidate
> this debt, Cleantech and Agrifuels will be using the same equipment?
> Please help a learning brain.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Kyle Gudgeon
--
Regards,
Kyle Gudgeon
Who knows what's next..All the hours of banting back and forth about, how this or that, makes sense about what we are going to get for days on end. Quite a few of our so called Brain Trusts, got caught up with that same old speculation and hype. But now it is all just wasted time according to TOM'S E-mail. Good news is, there will be no more spec on what GS Co. we are to get. Now maybe we can get back to basics and real DD and get this thing rolling again. just imo