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And no mention of the company Eontec whom they actually have an agreement with...
Simply playing mirrors and smoke here..
the word "license" and "royalties" are new - this is the only thing that is worth anything..
Based on what?
almost true...
Again, EONTEC noticeably silent - after nearly 5years since the PLA, we have not heard one peep from them, not one piece of news that shows the collaborative(supposedly) agreement is working its way through things.
Not once has the CEO of LQMT said anything about the largest transaction in last decade, if not ever, for LQMT.
And were supposed to just accept that?
The only positive...
Is they recognize words in the filing like "license fee" or "royalty" - clearly there is NO NDA that has an agreement all styled up for revenue cause they are saying now they plan, or expect, or need, to get these things happening.
And this will likely come in the form of a, wait for it, wait for it.....
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT or JOINT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
Eontec will do well with this news.
Li got what he needed for CCP...end of story..
And still no word from Li...
Cool dude it seems..
Sad really...
And they won't even reply to emails..
I agree - however, would have been a good move to hear/see Yihao producing a ventilator product via LQMT USA sales..
But hey, we know the story here anymore... we're a Chinese company now.
The report was more of same - China is doing fine with this technology and if we can actually provide value to China, were in - if not, its a slow IP drip into CCP computers...
So much for ventilator production...
I mean, if they couldn't get a dig in that, I'm not sure what exactly LQMT USA is anymore...
You can not short this stock... geez, how many times has it been said.
It also is concerning re; fundamental understanding of things, including Li's motives and how LQMT is affected..
Nah, nah - no one ever said "corrupt" or at least I didn't...
Ive always said the way Li did it was legal, simply bought the rights to the IP and pulled it into Eontec with CCP becoming majority owner - was simply a business decision.
Li also communicated "NO CE" in the 10k's so we now have what they call a "conundrum"
And the PLA says "NO CE" - now were in an Uroboros
This would take PatentGuy 2 weeks to disseminate with 8hour work days - if this, then that, but not this, only here, not there, back to me and over to you.
Oh, I know Lugee knows what he is doing, and did...
Materion is Eutectix..do the dig...
and underneath youll find Materion...
or go broke in meantime..
You can pretend that the way this has manifested is "rainbows" or you can hold people accountable, specifically, the company..
I'm fine with whatever answer I get - but simply provide your company with updates since the Eontec PLA, which is business specific, yet LQMT hasn't heard a word on this since 2016, except a blog post where the government took control of our partner..
Why would LQMT say No CE in its 10k from 2018?
And then be in the CE business?
I wouldn't bet on this..
And yet the Eontec PLA excludes CE on both sides..
Except, as I understand it, if its "non-patented" such as 106c, it may be a work around...but it is clear that the agreement excludes both sides from CE, yet we see it in use. To me, this feels like deception in many ways... mirrors..
Unfortunately Eontec/CCP/Li's deal with LQMT is subjective in many ways and are using the carefully crafted PLA to their advantage and not LQMT's..
Trust has likely been broken/ruptured - while Rotten Apple stands in line..
I could only imagine if a USA company decided to buy LQMT or put a bid for the company - CCP and Li would fall off their chairs..
Time to demand answers from the CEO on his true intentions, no? When do we as shareholders demand accountability?
Li has been nothing but focused on CCP initiatives...
likely liquidmetal, CCP Eontec version
It really is quite absurd the simple disregard for shareholders...
I mean, its almost blatant what has happened...
Why we don't build things in USA anymore...
Until Eutectix is up and running...
LQMT will be looked at as Chinese company..
Super unfortunate why no USA firm had the merit and attitude to make LQMT a USA staple..
Instead, you had firms like Aspire just looking to vulture invest on the technology IP, along with Rotten Apple..
Sad, really sad. To think it took 2 years to get LF up and running to only then shut it down - great execution!!..
Great piece on all this..
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/20/marc-andreessen-calls-to-build-things---heres-why-we-dont.html
Yes, agree..
I'd like to see some of this off Eontec though, too..
I don't know much about the Italian company - we haven't seen any contracts/terms..
until then, they are just a digital storefront.. not much expectations until we see tangible things that say we are involved or they are real..
interesting, for sure..
I ask:
Whose technology is this exactly?
Where is LQMT USA in this?
These are essentially the "Development Agreements" we have been waiting for from Eontec - however, it seems Eontec is going direct to Yihao.
I believe in LQMT but what has transpired with Eontec and LI doesn't really show that Li has LQMT USA best interest in mind so far. I believe he thought LF would simply grow without his focus.
I also know that this board wants to make things seem like they are going to balloon for LQMT USA and they aren't. There are realities to what Li did with CE and Eontec.
I'm trying to pivot focus to real things such as Eutectix and other markets.
I'm trying to focus on things that will make LQMT money.
I'm an optimist. The market is materializing. I'm trying to focus on things that can dig us out from $0.07
The same price before Li bought into the company with $63m - yet, $30m is gone now..time is of essence now..
Ive called and sent emails.
Not ONE response..
Eutectix is real. Its that simple. Materion little sister.
They will find a market in USA.
Eutectix is getting the machines. They will find customers- this is Materions little sister.
NDA's are real - you can see them answered in the "Medical" section in the 10k ; however, at some point, they don't matter and are not as prevalent as this board makes them.
Stop emailing EONTEC
If you haven't figured it out yet, you are invested in LQMT - email them.
Realism saves lives.
You can be a realist and an optimist.
In fact, its what most scientist are.
Why would Eontec make ventilator parts?
Wouldn't this be direct sales - ie; LQMT USA -> Yihao
The focus of this board sometimes..
This is the future
Franchise model (Pick your package)
Package 1
Package 2
Package 3
Realist
I do think the salaries of Bruce and company are becoming an issue - clearly they haven't been worth that weight..
At what point does ones services become unnecessary if you cant deliver.
I mean, who buys a building that will need an updgrade to host the equipment you mfg(or partnership does) - wouldn't one know or understand this when setting up? They are also in a mfg cluster of buildings so not really sure whatever happened there..
I mean, they spent 2 years upgrading the facility - and when it did get finalized, they shifted gears.
Cant make this stuff up...
The criteria will be proof of a 35%(or it may be 25%,not sure) reduction in business during this time(in relation to last years numbers) - ie; if a restaurant closes, it clearly will show up in yearly business.
LQMT would likely not benefit.
However, bigger fish to fry with LQMT USA - large push for USA mfg.(are American firms ready to invest like CCP invested in Eontec?) - we will need a psychology reset.
But is Li actually motivated by this?
What is Li motivated by anymore?
While this event is real(Covid) - pain and collective conscience is temporary. it will take a real fighter to push Made In USA.
However, many consumers, in near term(lets see what happens LT), will continue to move away from MIC.
Li's actions are why much of the dissent exists with China. Regardless of motivations, or legalities of his actions, much of Western world has become fed up with the status quo of China modus.
As a CEO of an American Company, wouldn't one communicate to his shareholders? This is the current sentiment that has stock, flat on all time lows... Thanks Li(and CCP).
Evidence the IP is making Li money..
Evidence the IP sits on China servers...
Evidence LQMT USA was left out of CE...
Evidence that 106c has a trick to it..
Evidence that technology works...
Evidence LQMT USA needs to find a market...
Evidence USA just wants shopping platforms to buy Chinese goods and all will be well in the world...
Evidence the 2025 goals for quality mfg in China is working...
Evidence USA is behind..
I am a realist...
The article discusses "major players" - Li's maze doesn't get any more "major"...
When Li, CCP, LQMT, etc. can show us shareholders something more than what we have experienced, I will change my tune on their style...
I have been vocal where reality exists and where it doesn't...
I have been proved wrong and right.
I don't believe CE is in play for LQMT and still scratching my head how the material is widely being used in CE when Apple isn't involved. I just worry that 106c, while LQMT touted, has a work around that we can't understand and is how the material is in market without any legal ramifications..
I also believe that the material and process are real - I believe that the ventilator prospect is a "moment" for LQMT.
If something were to happen, I just hope the benefits don't skew to China maze and/or Apple, and more towards the company the created all of this IP - LQMT USA>
It has never been determined that it doesn't need to be BMG...
I think that's the question: time/price = value(how much is the question)
How do you make 500,000 metal parts, in 2-4weeks? What material/process can do this?
That's a serious question:
Can MIM produce this just as effectively with time/money?
Why would BMG be a better choice?
What is he price differential vs. time differential.
This is how BMG would be chosen.
Well see...
China needs a PR story..they will orchestrate the best way to get one..