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redwing.Magnificent overview.Well done.Thanks.//
DABOSS. Good point..//
D.inkie. Thank you for an incredibly informative post. You worked that place hard. Greatly appreciated.
drhunt.Subject dropped.
HH. Maybe it was.
LL. Criticism of my post is highly warranted and understood.
I spend about 10 minutes a day on EDIG boards. Sometimes I don't post or even lurk for months.
Dr Hunt on the other is at it 24/7 not unlike you and db24.
A vast majority of his/your life is spent at the computer fighting with bashers (or disgruntled,whining longs such as myself)
I don't need for Dr.Hunt to supply me or anyone else with free information using his own well deserved free time at CES.
In my post, I indicated it was a free country and he could certainly do anything he wanted at CES.
I simply find it almost incredible that a grown man (a doctor at that)wastes his time day after day on EDIG message boards, then goes to CES and makes virtually no effort to explore his own investment,particularly when there are so many unanswered questions,which he freely admitted he "didn't have time" to ask.
Pretty strange for a man who battles with bashers in between foot operations.
I myself am not looking for any free lunch. Obviously,if I was sitting on really scared money,I would go myself. I'm just not as obsessed with this stock as those who are always guarding the boards.
I'm certain the report from D.inkie will be one worth waiting for. Unlike Dr. Hunt, D.inkie is one who talks the talk and walks the walk.
I remain LONG on e.Digital in spite of my frustrations.
drhunt.Just got back from your post and all I have to say is WOW! I'm blown away......by a man who over the past 3 years has spent thousands of hours posting thousands of messages on every e.Digital chat board imaginable; and then AFTER SIX FULL HOURS AT YOUR FIRST EVER CES.......
You "got a chance to sneak away to visit e.Digital."
You had "a somewhat abbreviated visit" with Steve Ferguson.
You "didn't get a chance to sit down and fire away with tougher questions."
You "didn't get a chance to see/hear" the Eclipse.
You "didn't get a chance" to visit the Equator people.
You're "sorry if this post doesn't allay some of the many concerns that many of you have with our company."
You "spent most of my time" at THE HOME A/V BOOTHS, THE XM RADIO BOOTH,THE SONY BOOTH AND THE ALEXIS HOTEL LISTENING TO "BODACIOUS AUDIO SYSTEMS" FROM PASS LABS,JEFF ROWLAND AND THIEL.........
Hey Doc, it's a free country and you've got a right to do any darn thing you want at a convention that you paid good money to see. You're obviously sitting on 100% free shares. Good for you. I envy your position.
I also find your post to be pompous,cavalier and downright nauseating.....but good luck to you anyway.
db24. That's the first time you've been right about anything. It may well be time for even me to finally pack it in.
I've now become as disgusted with my own patience as I am with these losers we've got for a management team.
Continue with your blinders on and you'll be the last idiot standing.
Time for a pep talk from LL and db24.//
Dinkie. My bad.Thanks.//
Treddetector.. Thanks. I'm looking at rstring's post #23955. Maybe my bad, but I still don't see it.
The absence of any specific mention of the O1K in e.Digital's CES progam/company description I find moderately troubling.
Why is the first player mentioned in our self authored write up 1)the practically extinct MXP 100?..2)followed by the vague "Treo line"..3)followed by the nonexistent Silhouette..4)then finally.... the Odyssey "line"?
If we're really going to see the 0dyssey 1000 at CES, should'nt it be mentioned in the CES program?
Money/Capital moves in advance of News. There SHOULD be some news coming VERY SOON on the Odyssey and if so, at least management could have included it as a specific model not unlike the moribund MXP/Treo/Silhouette lines...
I promised to stay positive(or silent) until the end of CES, so just interpret this as an objective observation.
CDR,Packers,jimee11,etal.. If you guys have ANY concern for the company's well being(which I believe you do)...why not just give the crusading a rest until the later part of CES. Don't you think management deserves at least ONE last chance leading up to an event you know you've been waiting for?
For the most part,I sympathise with your comments, but why not just give the negative repetition a rest for the time being?
If nothing of substance happens at CES, then go ahead and assume these guys have been losers all along. Bash away...
Until then,let's give'em some space and some respect.Please?
emit.Please,YOU are needed at the show.......
emit.Your DD always appreciated. Thank you.//
ucansee. BRAVO on your indictment of MurrayHill. Well said and right on target.
I believe that just about everyone on THIS board sincerely wants the company to be successful and for the pps to act accordingly. Further, I don't really think that anyone here wants to maliciously INITIATE doubts about the company for the sake of just being counterproductive.
Having said that...there are many true longs(both lurkers and those who post)who are intellectually and emotionally irritated by the "hear no evil/see no evil" gestapo attitudes of some here who appear to be intolerant of any criticism of the company and/or its management.
Furthermore, these same folks(I'll call them the chauvinistic longs)verify their hard line/pro management stance without any willingness to share the slightest degree of specific,rational,technical reasons for their obdurate and infuriating posts. It's so much easier(and lazier)for
them simply to yell...BASHER !!!
I for one would be perfectly content to sit back and simply read the enlightening(for the most part)posts of DABOSS,Dinkie, emit,doni,gary,Blackdog6,sunpoop and others without ever(for the most part)feeling the need to "lash out" with my rantings on the mediocrity of e.Digital management.
The ignorantly autocratic "contributions" of several old hens on this board have ruined this venue for me just as "us bashers" have in turn ruined it for them and no doubt others.
Objectivity breeds rational response. Irrational blind faith simply breeds consternation. I would be happy to just become a lurker again if certain posters would simply ease up on the quantity of their own posts. Their cultist offerings bother me almost as much as the malicious and evil agendas of those who still spread their venom on RB.
Enough said. I will try to stay quiet for now,waiting for CES and what I hope will be positive,enlightening,revenue producing news from OUR little company.
Hey Dean... give it a rest will ya?
DABOSS.C'mon buddy,get a dose of reality. Try calculating just how many units of the O 1000 would have to be sold at $2-$4 licesing/royalty fees per unit in order for it to bring this stock up to respectable levels. DABOSS...it would take 1 million units ($400,000,000 in gross sales) just to offset the presently deflated burn rate of $250,000 per month.
richardosborne. My sentiments exactly. Thank you.I AM NOT A BASHER as Lawyerlong,db24,and others continue to believe.
db24.I AM NOT A BASHER.. I still hold all of my original shares. I am hoping for a miracle. I am not a basher. I am frustrated with the lack of a quality management team. The stock is too low fo me to sell. Look at my posting history on RB over the last 3 years(jtdiii).
What totalitarian state do you live in??
db24. Please take your blinders off for a few seconds and kindly respond to post #22490 with some degree of rational,unemotional specificity.
DABOSS. With all due respect sir..Very lame parallel between profit projections of iPod vs e.Digital's profit potential with the O 1000.
Apple was vertically integrated into the ipod revenue stream. They(Apple) have been/will make more than $1-$4 per unit. The numbers have now stopped making any sense. Do you have a confirmation on DGW's production capacity???
StoopsSooners. Agree with you on the relative unimportance of an advanced education. There's no need for every CEO to be an MBA.
HOWEVER, if this same person is such a miserable public speaker and is incapable of organizing and communicating in a reasonable, credible manner........then maybe a return to some type of formal education would be in order.
DABOSS,Lawyerlong,db24..Your take on post #22490??
sunpoop. Good post. Hope you're right. Only reason I'm still here. I agree that ALL of the failures are not attributable directly to management.
Disagree that it's too late to replace any combination of FF/RP/SF/RF(Steve Ferguson/Ran Furman)If the technology is bulletproof as we hope it is, then they can find.....
A CEO with more than a Junior College education and a fear of public speaking.
A VP Investor Relations with some semblance of credibility
A VP of Sales who can actually close a deal and can show up to speak at a SHM.
A "real" CFO who has a little more experience,foresight and contacts.
sunpoop..Good post. I have always appreciated your thoughts,as I am aware of your intimate and long standing relationship with the company.
We are all holding on to the hope expressed in your post. Why else would anyone in their right mind still be here???
Lawyerlong. Regretably,I've held the same sizeable number of shares in this company for over 3 years now.
Selling at these levels is hardly worth it(+/-160K shares)as long as I can rationally hold to the dream that somehow our dysfunctional management will haphazardly stumble onto a revenue creating opportunity without turning it into failure.
Meanwhile...your blind,steadfast(almost chauvinistic)loyalty to mediocre management would be easier for the rest of us to swallow if you could just somehow avoid telling those who disagree with you to "move on"......
It ain't your board bubba.
Lawyerlong.There's still no revenue from any of the companies mentioned in your post, and their record of "expected" (RP talk) revenues is miserably sad.(as is your enabling attitude toward these non-performing losers)
db24. It was a minor response to more share dilution executed again by EDIG mgmt. on 12/24/02, whereby the company sold more of its own shares at .19.....more of the same to come until these stumblebums can find a way to generate some real revenue on their own..... but then , it's all due to "outside circumstances" isn't it???
D.inkie. Directionally, I understand what you're saying. I just don't see why informed competitors or"partners" don't see the ultimate benefit and start taking equity stakes in EDIG.
I appreciated emit's response,but if our usefullness is inevitable and our comparative effectiveness is measureable(per your post), then why are we at .20 ????
There needs to be a rational explanation somewhere known by someone....
No need to respond,although it's not really meant as a rhetorical question.
D.inkie Thank you for the enormous work you do on this and your own board. I hope you end up being the true visionary...
emit..2005?..we wait....Thanks for your response. Much appreciated.
emit... IF the process engineers of multinational blue chip electronic companies DO in fact know whether or not there indeed is a significant difference between MOS and DOS......
Then why pray tell (in anticipation of the upcoming need for a robust file management system)...........
ARE THEY NOT VISIBLY BEATING A PATH TO OUR DOOR......
in the form of equity participation, strategic partnerships, and/ or any other "real" evidence of their understanding and appreciation that MOS actually will mean something several years from now??
What is it that D.inkie and Doni know that these OTHER(non EDIG related) process engineers do not know??
Maybe D.inkie and Doni should stop wasting time bantering with juvenile/twisted bashers and let some people who REALLY matter know why MOS should be important to them??
But wait a minute(to beat a dead horse),that's EDIG management's job, isn't it???
D.inkie.. These ar poorly devised layman's questions I am now asking you. My apologies...
How critical is the need for 1) preservation of space? 2)increase in speed and........ (I assume) 3)preservation of battery life?
1) DOS vs MOS....How much "space difference" in a "typical" device?? Is there a "significant" difference??
2) DOS vs MOS....How much "faster" with a "complicated" audio/video device with multi-codec/multi DRM capabilities??
3) DOS vs MOS...How much battery life is preserved in a "typical" device described in 2)??
Can these questions even be answered the way I am posing them? Do we even know enough to speculate?
Sorry also for all the ".."s.. jtdiii
OT..LL. Where in Atlanta do you live? (if you don't mind me asking and if the Wm.Bendix thing didn't already overload the I-Hub off topic quota)
D.inkie.. I am forever loving your posts on all the boards...Your suggestions,implications and rational connections are an understandable oasis of hope for all of us.. Thanks for all your work...jtdiii
PREDICTION. We will have an EDIG PR today 12/5/02(jmo). Now I'm going back to sleep.//
Signing out. I've said my piece. Hope I'm wrong. I'll go back to lurking.