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I think IDCC should start a legal claim against all carriers operates in US/Canada with unlicensed smart wireless devices.
Not a 'beep' from the company after last conf call. The SP rised briefly and do a straight drop to $26.6 now, how are 'we' shareholders supposed to manage our expectation and at the same time give praises to mgmt while they are taking more of your money.
If 'we' don't voice our displeasure how would they ( correctively) know?!!
By now mgmt has to realize pNokio is not going to pay no matter what until they are force to, so why not change of avenue???
The coming expiration of AAPLE is hanging in the balance while SAM, LG .. etc, etc not coming to the table ....
Wonder if there are give back of raises??
Data_Rox,
You are absolutely correct, who cares about 9% or 6% if you are not getting paid?
Have you ever wonder out loud why one has milk delivery on time day after day would ever want to do anything to disrupt that? That stuff, that sugary stuff mgmt been spoon feeding us ....closing to 20 years now maybe it is time to stop. Really.
Have you ever wonder why mamt never try to fight the accused image of being troll, company of troll? IDCC in the past made phones and did engineering services for other companies and US government besides making countless technical contribution and inventions to the wireless world? Yeah mgmt is busy doing licensing, why bother?
I for once would love to see how they spend our dollars, like always attending investment conference in England at year-end?
I for once would like to ask BM if he ever wants to win a tiny patent in US court?? Vringo won one and the royalty rate is 6.5%
I for once would like to tell him in his face TALK IS CHEAP !!
Warbil,
You are right on!
They could have nailed down at least one in London, but who is NOT to say mgmt was sleeping on the wheel?
Vote them out!
For the New Year's sake all those high-paid lawyers need to go thru some engineering training classes b4 they need to walk thru that ITC front gate.
Apparently their talk didn't make sense for a long while
GBR,
'SPECULATION'
I would speculated that judges of CAFC are really weary of all judges at the ITC?
I hope, as a result CAFC realize they are the truly last line defense the American Public relies on.
I suspect the premise where Huawei's acceptance to binding arbitration might rest on the help of IDCC 's technical prowess in the area of LTE-TDD which pNokia is a major competition.
Once Huawei is involved there is no need to worry about the People Republic 's phony antitrust department, bc they are almost the same people.
Sonic22,
You sounded very optimistic re: Huawei because there is NOT some concrete info one can put the finger on and make a guess, not even that much of a guess.
As for HG, does anyone know how prosperous he has been after leaving IDCC without feeding at the trough? He is unprofessional as far as I am concerned.
P.S. IDCC can tell Huawei that the Japanese is currently paid a lot more (they paying zip now) if that makes the Huawai folks feel good deep in their guts. LOL!!
loop,
WOW! WOW!
Hauwei saw this opportunity IDCC has some set back and chose to negotiate a settlement.
Where is the beef! WM
zombywolf,
Allow me.....after all those hi dollars spent on the lawyer's fee
only now you came to this conclusion? sigh!
My3 sons,
I invested close to 20 years time & money in IDCC and I still do. I was only a low wage earner for many years of course those are hard earn money to speak of, notwithstanding many lost opportunities that passed along the journey. But I don't blame nobody for my own doing?
Am I tell a story about a blind man led by a blind dog going nowhere? Feeling like that what I am doing, sorry to say that, now I don't have a few more years waiting .... Delay upon delay repeal after repeal, goal got reset after years, bad contracts followed bad contracts. Of course they can wait because they get to milk the cow year after year nonstop. I am just tired!
The wireless industry ever expanding looking at Qualcomm it is a $25 billion revenue company not meant to make comparison but the point is a successfully run company grows it's revenue? What is the bottom line? It was repeatedly said it was not about pNokia and it was said it was not about ITC so what it is all about? May next year it was not about Apple either?
If IDCC patents are so strong why not go to court with those LTE patents ? Need to start the case now picking on pNokia's LTE infra business? I would.
Really wish I have more time to rant but you can read my old posts...... They will make sense of what I felt
Data,
Yup! Bill Merritt @ the helm ( practically speaking), OJT (on the job training) for most of the20 years and still making that kind of decision with wide eye opened mistake. You got it.
Jim,
Most that need to sell already did so, but a lot is waiting on the sideline to get in ......only if the company acknowledges something has to be done, imho.
Go to the court after those patents in the 713-800 case.
Let BM go he already milked enough.
Sell the infra patents fast.
Initiate a 200 mil buy back to shore up confident.
4 points lower to 12 points higher...........
20X daily volume happened b4, not sure about short-covering though! LoL
Almost 4.8 mil shares shorted and about 11.7 days to cover
triangle
That is where most problems arise, the ALJ are administrative judges I would say 98% are not verse in this field (cellular wireless). They rely on the expert witness and hence their credibility.
I think the Chinese court in Quangdong made a mockery out of its own court system by such outrageous act, of course they didn't care to explain there was no contract (to threaten) to speak of after multi-year negotiation, not a single bloody cent of royalty to speak to a violation either.
That NDRC event is rapidly becoming a laughing joke itself, the communist china just shows its color red. IMO IDCC is a prawn the main target is QCOM.
Rakitno,
This is my regular adventure, believe it or not! Unfortunately most of the time it didn't turn out well, for this time it was the futher delay never was anticipated. But really it has nothing to do with my point except that you trying make it to be one. I told you about the option I have was just to prove to you otherwise!
I am on your side of the fence, don't think what I said has to with the sentiment of the board? it was my opinion and some may agree.
Ultimately the ITC venue is to force negotiation rather than a true confirmation by court the patents is valid and infringed, as there will be penalty for infringement and willful infringement, which the ITC can't lever. That is the gist of the fraudulent philosophy you mentioned
Peace
nickyc,
The revenue from Pegatron is not even comparable to what should have been coming in from FOXcom ? That is the point.
Should have heard something from Mgmt, FOXcom is still the major of the major manufacturer.
nickyc,
That is what I said too, as for FOxcomm's end of deal there was no deal to speak of, since 2006 until now. What about FOxcomm? Nothing there, NOT a single word from Management ever !!
Peace
Rakitno,
How many litigation IDCC been in after the Motorola debacle? that's right, BM has been the honcho involved in all of it..... that is the history side of it to make it short.
With so much already spent and stuffing of the lawyer pockets have we won one case here in US or Aboard a single patent valid and infringed? Why not?
BTW I have 100 Jan 2014 call @ 40 purchased 1 month ago
nickyc,
That is why Apple is saying they won't paid anymore than they already paid, even though they won't oppose the confirmation? Now think about why is that?
Nickyc I was very hopeful when they announced the contract back in 2006 but no more! FOxcom has been the majority manufacture but they didn't pay a dime yet?
That is why I said 'For what'
NO BS AT ALL. I BEEN HERE SINCE 94 WHEN CEO WAS DOYLD
nickyc,
For what.........?
Yeah, but....we are not paying u any more than it is?
' IF ANY '
Nessco,
I disagree with your assessment, they walked away may not be the matter of the patents rather it might be something else!
Rakitno,
If you are read all these postings today YOU just might coming away with 'at the end of the day' how incompetent mgmt, in-house consul, outside lawyers are!
Through out all these years NOT A SIMPLE WON.
IDCC does not need those high price incompetent lawyers.
IDCC does not need old retiring judges.
IDCC does not need female judges ( blame that on bad karma ).
IDCC does not need bad contract writing person.
Then you can right this ship, imo
My opinion doesn't count much like everybody saying (LOL) but I think there is a deep fraud in Mgmt's philosophy in licensing all these years by trying too hard to negotiate without some battle-tested patents, here we are years later still trying with some hundreds and hundreds of million dollars of legal fee already spent.
Another important element is that it justify reporting to the board for licensing without much scrutiny, to have a license from IDCC.
IMHO
jim,
Postyle is a contributor and real helper, truly appreciated by most on the board.
I just hope that there will be more to discuss about?
Postyle,
Maybe you are good karma for the board.
Hope for '613' coming alive!!
LJ22,
" BM sounds confident, assuring, focused and results oriented. "
AT the end of the day do you know how many appeal processes and appeal courts IDCC had had been thru?
I am VERY confident that IDCC already has heen spending a lot of share holders money for getting into multiple and multiple very confident dealings?
sigh
and I dearly hope they proved us wrong!!
1 missed opportunity = 50% skill vs 50% luck
2 missed opportunities = 70% skill vs 30% luck
Multiple missed opportunities = 100% skill vs 0% luck. Especially on the job training for all those years.
With the attempt to label IDCC is a monopoly?!! lol
Long long time ago I comment that China is not going to be abide by any licensing obligation being IDCC had no political backing. So sad but so true
GBR,
Thank You very much for your comments, it is very profoundly articulated! I just wish those highly compensated counsel of IDCC has the mind and will to put forward that to the ITC commissioners.
vtem
Olddog967,
The Chinese provincial courts often proved to be a laughing joke, it just a tiny black spot in the whole IDCC picture.
Imo, the becoming focal point is now again the ITC ruling, hopefully in IDCC's favor. As the picture is clearer than it was 3 months ago, it was then trading over $40..........without the Signal Trust. So wait and see...may be analysts update?
Data,
I rather have a license from AAPLE that also covers Hon-Hai than to pursuit it alone?
and that why I said 'you' figure it out as in nobody likely be able to do so?
If MSFT decide to start on a clean slate, they deserve a bigger discount to pod pNokia along.....
Slacker711,
IDCC reporting a Qtr late, you figure that out right? Lol
This is an Olympic event, 400 m hurdle coming to an end fast.