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Franklinslip .......
You sure are trying to start a panic ......
Lets see .......
I consider the "new" Pharma Division as .....
A pharma division of DNAG .......
just like Biofantra .......
18% of Biofantra worth ............
goes on DNAG books ...........
I believe Richard is takeing the "conventional" finaceing ...
to this level ........
to insure no more dilution, JMHO .......
you see it as a negative ......
I see it as building share holder value .......
we as share holders are part of the "big Picture" .....
a Pharma Division is part of the "big Picture" ........
so Franklinslip ........
stop trying to cause "fear" ........
relax, and wait for everything to unfold .......
I as an investor am "tickled-pink" ........
I have Emailed DNAG ........
and asked .......
How will bringing a Pharma Division help me as an investor? .....
AFTER ALL, WE ARE ALL OWNERS OF THE SUPER EPO --- GEO
High profile murder .......
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/17/attorney.wifeslain.ap/index.html
Daniel Horiwitz wife is murdered ......
To start my sympathy to family and friends .....
If DNA was found, and there are no witnesses ......
two things can happen here ......
1) DNA is run through CODIS
a) No match ...
b) match on file suspect nabbed ........
2) DNAWITNESS is used and run through CODIS ......
a) No match but now have a "predictive" assesment IE: Heritage etc, etc, etc ......
b) match on file suspect nabbed ......
Now the Question is ........
to expedite as well as cost effectiveness ......
what do you think they should do? ......
I WOULD BE USEING DNAWITNESS --- GEO
Grateful .....
"good" pickup ........
now .....
I now the only Co. that can predict this info ......
with this info also comes a "fuzzy" photo .....
HOW CLOSE THEY MUST BE TO GETTING THE BASTARD --- GEO
gunnabeoneday .....
Thanks for the follow up ......
Now back to the burning Question ......
why the statement from Richard ....
regarding trying to "enlist" ......
new financeing ......
when we still have Dutchess and La Jolla ....
I think perhaps Richard is on to something .....
he did say "because we now have strength" ......
FINGERS CROSSED --- GEO
sorry ann ....
you are to fast ..... LOL
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK ANN --- GEO
This gives dates for La Jolla ......
This is the most recent I could find .....
seems we were done in AUG .......
if some one could show me an update ......
if there is one? ......
But I think this is it ......
http://rd.business.com/index.asp?bdcs=200510195034089&bdcz=go.l.l.ml.e&bdcr=3&bdcu=http%...
COULD BE DONE WITH LA JOLLA --- GEO
gunnabeoneday....
thanks for the reply .....
I'm going to see if I can find it .....
I will keep every one posted .....
on the conditions etc .....
IF I CAN FIND IT --- GEO
frnklinisp ........
didn't answer the phone? ......
so they get an avoid rateing? ........
WEIRD --- GEO
I'm sorry Mike .....
but I think someone on RB stated November ....
as being the End date for the original financeing .....
I was hopeing some out there knew ......
I DON'T --- GEO
Dr DEW ....
He isn't fooling anyone .......
AND HE'S NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU A STRAIGHT ANSWER --- GEO
I understand that La Jolla funding is almost over ....
can any one help me out with this? ....
THANKS INADVANCE --- GEO
Franklinisp ....
So you are saying that Dutton has recomended "avoid" ....
because they didn't answer their phone? .......
are you sure? ......
SEEMS KINDA FUNNY, DON'T YOU THINK? --- GEO
OK Franklin ....you have mail...eom
Mikefl .....
I agree ...
and that is my point ......
we "needed" them at the time ......
I think we are looking for a more favourable financeing .....
because we just might be able to pay our "bills" now ....
from the revenue of DNAWITNESS and ANCESTRYBYDNA .......
But this is JMHO ........
I have to wait for the next 2 fileings to be sure .......
so if DNAG is able to "court" an alternitive form of financeing .......
we could be off to the races .......
Now how could you bring someone on board? .......
Hmmmmmmm .......
EARLY RESULTS? --- GEO
franklinslip ......
I'd love to have a chat with you regarding your investment ....
so rather than Emailing you .....
I thought I'd just phone ......
I'll use your Co. number - 1-317-738-0320
Now whom should I ask for? ......
FIRST NAME IS GOOD ENOUGH --- GEO
franklinisp ....
Conventional finaceing ....
would be "ultra" fantastic for DNAG ......
As GCBR and ANN's post .....
help me see where this Tech is heading ......
DNAG in my opinion ......
are set to be a real "standard" in many areas ......
With Richards latest NR ......
I am confident that he is looking for .....
a more favourable "form" of financeing .......
which I hope bodes well for "everyone" .......
No one yet .......
has been able to answer why we are looking for funding ....
for our Pharma products .....
when we have so much capital availible through Dutchess .....
My opinion is that it has served its purpose .......
Richard did mention we have strength now ......
I look at this as a positive statement ........
so why do you think he would seek funding ........
when we have funds availible through Dutchess? ......
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? --- GEO
Franklinslip .....
Sorry can't help you .....
I'm a long term investor .....
and only see the SP drop .....
as an opportunity .......
are you an investor? ......
did you buy DNAG stock? .......
what do you make of the last NR ......
I found it to be a positive .......
did you find it to be a positive? ......
If your not an investor ......
why ARE you here? ......
you seem to be very "up" on things .......
but tend to highlight "negative points" .......
are you going to be a disruption? .......
I would love to talk to you about the Super EPO ......
we are working on, and how the founder of the patents ....
we recieved from Beth, is working for us .......
but if you are hear to change my mind ......
I'll save you the trouble ......
I'm set in my way of thinking .......
I for one see many ops at these price levels ........
OK FUD --- GEO
Stockboy .....
could you please post the "huge" salaries ....
for DNAG management .....
I would like to know how huge, huge is ....
CURIOUS --- GEO
stockboy ....
if I and others stop buying ......
some one could dump a couple of million shares .....
and then what? ......
I'm happy just the way I'm doing things ......
hopefully an uptrend can be established soon ......
you see, before the R/S we had over a billion shares ....
now we have over 100mil shares .......
someones buying, besides myself .....
and some ones selling ......
eventually some ones going to run out .......
buyers/sellers .....
I choose the buyers side ......
even though we are being pushed back .....
we are getting "bigger" .....
and then its our turn to play ......
and like I said time and time again ......
my shares won't be for sale ......
untill a certain price is met .....
and its not going to be "penny land" prices ......
some ones going to yell "Touch down" ......
Buyers or sellers .....
but right now I guess I'm playing defence .......
and the sellers are on offence .....
and I haven't lost a dime yet .....
because I haven't sold a share yet .......
thats not my opinion, but a fact .....
BUT WE ARE GETTING BIGGER --- GEO
Soooo .......
Richard is looking for funding ....
for our "new" Pharma Division .......
I wonder whats up? .......
we still have plenty to use from Dutchess ......
CURIOUS --- GEO
ann441j .....
I already tried that! ....
and nothing, notta, zero, zilch ........
hey wait !!!!! .....
here it comes .....
YAHOO .....LOL .....
THANKS ANN, YOUR SO KIND ...LOL ...
HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY --- GEO
bigdive99 .....
Your just saying that ......
TOXIC THAT IS ...... LOL --- GEO
ann441j .....
that is called .....
A STATE OF SHOCK ...LOL --- GEO
GOOD FOR YOU !!!!
Dr DEW ......
I forgot to mention ......
Dr FUD also liked the "term" ....
"death spiral" ......
LOL --- GEO
ann441j .....
I've been haveing a great day ......
you have made it greater! .....
by the way congrats on your recent good luck ....
if that was me .....
I would have passed out ....
DID YOU? LOL --- GEO
Sorry spk ....
it just said ....
"malicious and inaccurate information deemed to be damaging to the company's reputation."
maybe you can find some info ......
on what you are talking about .....
LOOK OUT, HERE COMES THE SPIDERMAN --- GEO
Chris you just made it even better ...eom
Legal times are a changeing ......
2005-10-13 09:48 ET - News Release
Ms. Lori McClenahan reports
ST. ELIAS RETAINS LEGAL COUNSEL TO ADDRESS DEFAMATORY COMMENTS
St. Elias Mines Ltd. confirms that, due to repeated defamatory comments concerning the company and its president, Lori McClenahan, posted on the Stockhouse forum chat lines prompting serious concern from the company's long-time investors, the company has retained counsel to begin taking appropriate action against certain parties who post malicious and inaccurate information deemed to be damaging to the company's reputation.
The company believes that the Internet is one of the most powerful tools for communication ever invented. Posting defamatory comments on a widely read Internet bulletin board must be considered in the same light as publishing them in any other way because the accusations are available to a potentially broad and worldwide audience. For example, statements transmitted and published over Stockhouse about particular companies are accessible by millions of individuals including investors and potential investors.
While management believes in focusing its efforts on advancing the company and its projects, it is management's responsibility to address defamatory comments when they cause interference and/or damage to the company.
In the past, anonymous posters were hard to identify, however, recent Internet libel cases have set precedents and this lack of information is no longer an obstacle to obtaining the identity of anonymous Internet posters and launching an Internet libel suit. In a case decided in Alberta last year, Madame Justice C.A. Kent awarded oil and gas producer Vaquero Energy Ltd. $75,000 in damages over defamatory Stockhouse posts. During the trial, it was revealed that the anonymous poster was easily tracked down by his IP address, a unique number assigned to every computer accessing the Internet. Other cases include libel lawsuits filed by (1) Adanac Gold Corp. and Molycor Gold Corp., (2) Epic Data Inc. and (3) Farallon Resources Ltd. In addition, Barrick Gold Corp. recently won a $125,000 libel award over defamatory Internet postings. Based on these cases, it is evident that the Canadian courts take an unfavourable view of defamatory comments posted by cyberchatters.
GOOD TO SEE, MAYBE A NEW REVENUE SOURCE ...LOL --- GEO
I would like to say .....
GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE --- GEO
Stockboy .......
a fool and his money are easily parted .....
or ......
buy low sell high .......
a contridiction to say the least ......
but I beleive in DNAG ......
so I will stick with, buy low sell high ......
HAVE A NICE DAY --- GEO
loch3 ....
fair enough and I understand what you are saying ......
unlimited funds I do not have .....
it's buy a little bit each payday ......
my break even point to date is .13 ......
my next purchase I'm hopeing to be close to .10 ......
The Super EPO was what got me into DNAG .....
and the more I found ought about thier products ......
the more interested I became ......
I consider the Company worth more than it's tradeing ....
for now ......
So I will "trudge on" .....
BUT I DO UNDERSTAND YOU --- GEO
Dr DEW ........
There are two things I have noticed ........
Dr Fud has been absent .......
and Dr FuD is the only poster .......
I've seen use the word Toxic .......
But now we have two individuals ......
Dr Fud and Franklinisp ......
JUST THOUGHT I'D POINT THIS OUT --- GEO
loch3 .......
On Topic posts would be great .....
and I for one ......
would love to hear your thoughts .....
on the latest NR .....
TILL THEN --- GEO
bendiver .....
Thanks for the DD ........
FINGERS CROSSED FOR JV OR PP( with flow through shares and a holding period) --- GEO
Fsail52 .....
so do I .......
but I'm open to other suggestions ......
as long as "lazy brain" isn't involved .....
It just looks good to me, right now ......
the next fileing could say Vol's .......
not sure when it comes out ......
but I would guess soon ......
7 POSTS REMAINING --- GEO
Easyman51 .....
I'm sorry but I can't agree with you .....
over all you have been through, I can agree ....
But DNAG had 5 employees .......
we now have 18 employees .....
2 labs .....
the "brain" of EPOs .......
2 products in the market .......
we are now concentrateing on the Pharma side of things ....
the "bell ringer" ........
we are now comeing around to "grasp" the brass ring ....
We are moveing upward and onward ........
at this SP .......
I buy and sit and wait ........
accumulate, accumulate, accumulate .......
a little at a time ......
In my opinion will pay off huge ........
Two things everyone wants to see are .......
1) revenues .......
2) less dilution ........
JMHO we are soooooo close, I can taste it .......
JMHO, but I feel HOLD'N and BUYING THE DEALS .........
will pay off "huge" for myself ........
but I know I'm ready for anything ........
Richard has stated .......
to move forward we must put to market ......
DNAWITNESS, ANCESTRYBYDNA .........
creating revenues, which he has done .......
Now looking for "funding" for Pharma products ......
I regard this as a positive to share holders .....
perhaps financeing can be achieved with no more dilution ....
I hope so ....
I'M BETTING ON IT --- GEO
Hopeful ....
I'm pretty sure he was regarding test reults ........
As he has stated he has been time and time again .....
DNAG has been in constant talks with the FDA and NIH ....
WE MAY BE CLOSER THAN WE THINK --- GEO
Heres my point .....
I am going to lay it out there ......
We are now in the Pharma Stage .......
JMHO but I believe DNAWITNESS AND ANCESTRYBDNA .......
are now generateing revenue, self sufficient .......
Looking for "new" funding ......
JMHO means we are close to being done with Dutchess and LJ ....
We now have 18% ownership of Biofantra ......
excellent collateral, for a more secured funding op ......
It seems to me that the "SUPER EPO" is ......
the golden egg, short term .......
and every other item we have on the docket ......
is a golden egg ........
HANG IN THERE - HOLD AND BUY THE DEALS .......
BE READY --- GEO
From the wall street transcript
as you can tell Hopeful ......
they have been in discussions with the FDA .....
for some time now .....
TWST: Are there any milestones that you can set out for the next year or
two?
Mr. Gabriel: Our milestones have always been the same. They haven't
changed from the first day I came onboard. The goal is to make the
company profitable as soon as possible, and we're pursuing that by
developing products that we can get out into the market. Our new
DNAWITNESS test kit is just an example. We continue to build our
database. We have a 2,500 photo database and we collect samples. We're
building our product portfolios to make our products attractive to the
customers in genealogy as well as in forensics, and we will continue to
do that. Pharmacogenomics is a longer haul, but it certainly offers a
much greater point of return when a product is approved and is accepted
by the market. So we look at it in a three-step fashion. We look at our
consumer products market, building our continued consumer base, and we
have probably sold, oh, I don't know, 11,000 or 12,000 samples, or kits
into that market, and our long-term goal is to have, quite literally,
millions of those. So we will be a very unique company in that we will
have analyzed, literally, millions of DNA samples on a blind basis '
blind samples. We know nothing about the individuals; we just get a DNA
sample, and we report on it back to them. We also think there's a
tremendous opportunity in forensics. In the investigation of cold cases
-' and there's a backlog of hundreds, if not hundreds of thousands of
such cases ' our technology can be used to help categorize those cases.
Certainly categorizing DNA samples is important for the Innocence
Project. If a crime scene sample shows that the suspect is Caucasian and
the individual who's incarcerated is African-American, obviously, you
move his DNA to the top of the pile and you do the match and you free
him. So there's plenty of opportunity in those two markets for growth.
It's steady and consistent growth. It will, however, not be the bell
ringer. The real bell ringer for this technology has always been in the
pharmaceutical area, really matching the patient with the doctor and
with the therapy through 'Theranostics.' That's what this technology can
do. It can actually put the doctor and patient back in control of the
pharmaceuticals that are being administered for the disease that's being
treated. We can do this one step at a time, one drug at a time. We'll
just proceed down that path and have an open dialog with the FDA, the
NIH and move our technology forward. In addition, we're looking at
licensing opportunities for therapeutics as well ' in other words,
talking to people about drugs that we can bring in. We want to run
clinical trials of drugs along with our technology, and instead of
having 40% or 60% efficacy we could have up to 95% efficacy, which means
longer product life. That's a novel concept, and an important one.
Especially when patents expire, the question always is, how you keep
generics out. Well, how you keep generics out is that you have a product
that is 95% efficacious. That builds brand loyalty, and people don't
want to change. Aspirin has been around for a couple of hundred years,
and everybody knows Bayer aspirin; or Tylenol, anyone can make Tylenol,
but no one thinks of acetaminophen, people think of Tylenol. That's
brand loyalty. It's something that's been around in the pharmaceutical
industry itself, and you do that by making a product that, when you take
it, the result is there. You take Bayer aspirin, you know what you get;
you take Tylenol, you know what you get. So if you have a disease and
you have a drug that treats the disease, the doctor knows that it's an
efficacious drug, and if you match the patient to the drug and it works,
then that's what's going to happen. That's how scrips are generated.
TWST: Thank you. (TJM)
I GUESS THATS WHAT I HAVE - BRAND LOYALTY --- GEO
funding funding funding .......
Not going to use Dutchess? .......
Not going to use LJ? ......
Hmmmmm ......
But we still have "so much" more to borrow .....
well as a long term investor ......
I hope the purpose was to excell DNAWITNESS and ANCESTRYBYDNA ....
well let the lightning flash ......
and the thunder boom .....
because as Richard stated we are focusing now on .....
our Pharmaa products ......
http://rd.business.com/index.asp?bdcs=200510152500168&bdcz=go.l.l.ml.e&bdcr=8&bdcu=http%...
THERE IS NO STOPPING US NOW --- GEO