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One word:
Technology
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Two words: Bull shit
Another article on Seafarer popped up.
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A hundred articles. So what?
Indeed a pretty toy. And beyond that? Where's the verifiable evidence that it works. Where's the verifiable evidence that it has found anything. There isn't any evidence. If there is and I missed it, give me a link. I'm waiting.
Just a pretty toy.
Quote: I wonder how Fisher told all his investors, year after year, “Thanks for the investment, we found nothing, sorry pony up next year?”
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Regardless of his manner of raising capital, Fisher was finding treasure. He was the real deal. I wouldn't agree with his methods meaning it shouldn't have taken that long but all along the way he produced treasure until he finally hit the main pile. What a poor comparison on your part. In near two decades these clowns have found nothing.
You make the claim that SFRX is in the technology business (you might have been joking). My question to you is are you familiar with Sea Technology Magazine? This is about real maritime scientists, real engineers, not claim to do all toy manufacturers.
You just might want to take a look.
https://sea-technology.com
https://sea-technology.com/exploration-of-wrecks-in-mediterranean-for-unesco
It just puzzles me to no end as to why brilliant Timmy isn't collaborating with one of these real technology companies rather than with a penny stock huckster?
I'll bet these people do real in-ocean simulation tests in their development processes.
Quote: You can only spin it as a negative because you are "all in" on failure. Shouldn't have to wait much longer to find out.
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What like maybe another fifteen years?
Quote: In any event, my belief is that we will hear something soon and to honor our experts, the affiliates can all get on the same page about what bar to go to in Melbourne to celebrate.
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The SFRX circus have more than proven they can't find their ass with two hands.
They'll have to wheel you out of the old folks home in a wheel chair before that ever happens.
Quote: Okay great. I look forward to the CONFIRMATION news…….
that there’s treasure on Juno.
They dove on Juno and said they found worm poop and posted a picture of a conglomerate. They never mentioned treasure.
But you didn’t clarify how they were going to locate wrecks in the future and when legal title is obtained.
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Look. It's more than obvious there are some smart people posting here but totally naive about the marine treasure hunting business. TOTALLY NAIVE.
Quote: Exactly, why would you if you have the correct technology.?....”
Geez.... that is the whole.point of SeaSearcher!!!
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First of all there is no valid evidence the toy does any of the things its supposed to do. NONE.
Secondly, apparently you don't seem to understand that in governmental archaeological communities the word TREASURE is highly frowned upon.
Like I said, they'd be better off to go play in the Disneyland moat.
Quote: I didn’t know they posted the Juno dive video. I don’t recall any comments about it. Not surprised.
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How terribly dull. What was that supposed to be all about? Don't know if anyone noticed but the anchor has no ring.
These guys might have better luck looking for shipwrecks in the Disneyland moat.
Quote: SFRX is the only entity I know that has……
done exactly what you’re describing, (spending years) but has “allegedly” built a Toy that can identify non ferrous metals, but we have seen ZERO proof to back that claim.
Short order? It’s been years since we were told the Toy worked. I don’t see anything short order about it.
Instead of spending years hoping to come across treasure that you hope is located near iron hits from the mag survey, you will now be able to scan the area of the wreck and know in short order if there is treasure or other metals present at the wreck.
SFRX has never located a wreck, so who’s gonna tell them where to look?
You no longer have to ID the ship and track down a manifest. Years of effort, time and money (possibly wasted), will now be saved.
Locate a wreck, scan it for treasure, get your answer. Act accordingly.
Quote: Real salvors know research and exploration/salvage are two different areas of responsibility within the organization. One occurs year round, while the other is planned and limited by weather and other factors.
They work simultaneously.
Research, which is much less expensive than a vessel and a crew and is never ending.
Real salvors don’t want to locate A WRECK, there’s plenty of those, they want to locate and salvage THE WRECK.
If this is what the company told the “in the loop shareholders,” then they got fed a truckload of worm poop.
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Truly the greatest example of incompetence and on going failure in the history of this business. Historically I know none to compare to in modern day.
Quote: Locate a wreck, scan it for treasure, get your answer. Act accordingly.
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This brilliant "Technology Company" hasn't even had the common sense to do actual simulation tests on an actual colonial shipwreck. Pre-burying various ferrous and mainly non-ferrous targets. I wonder why? I have a pretty good assumption as to why. The toy doesn't work and the CEO and Timmy can't have the exposure. Of course, it's still under development.
Are you not aware that state and foreign government archaeologists frown upon your described approach of let's just scan (evening it worked) the wreck for treasure and then move on. It doesn't work that way.
I believe some people here have missed their call. Great talent shown for writing children's books.
Quote: SFRX is absolutely a technology company.
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Really. If that be the case they're making a piss poor showing.
I've posted here numerous times about stimulation tests in like environment in which this Timmy Toy is suppose to perform and find all these (fraudulently stated) billions in gold and silver. But this "technology company" has never done that have they?
Fact is I had been involved in setting up that kind of test in the Florida Keys on the 1733 Capitana, years past, so I do know what I'm talking about. For SFRX to actually do those kind tests would result in exposure to what a joke the whole thing really is.
Like I also said a number of times. This so called technology company continues to be the turd in the candy bar wrapper.
Quote: If an investor or shareholder cannot stomach that number, one would need to do a bit more DD on the needs of a technology company.
$7K a day is an absolute steal!!
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A what? A technology company? The jokes thrown out here are unending.
Thought it was suppose to be a treasure hunting company? Oh, so now it's a technology company. A spiffy looking toy that to date has produced nothing.
For a CEO to sit back and collect a 350k salary a year for absolute non-productive failure surely got to have the brazen balls to do so.
Oh, so that's the new twist. It's a technology company. Anything to try and justify the turd in the fancy candy bar rapper.
Quote: $7K a day is quite the budget for being on a wreck that they can’t ID.
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No solid evidence that they are on a wreck at all.
Quote: Of course I am forgetting your undocumented expertise and unproven success in developing and building new technology. No doubt you would have come up with groundbreaking technology in a matter months if not weeks or days, but we all can't be you, can we? Most are now waiting for SFRX to provide evidence SeaSearcher works, as opposed to making judgements in the absence of evidence. Then again, you seem to know better, because, you know, armchair technologist.
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But this isn't about me. It's about SFRX (and it's creative inventive personnel) who repetitiously fail. On going all talk and no show. Cover up excuses are endless, coming as no surprise.
Quote: As usual, all the ad nauseam 'gotcha" posts willfully ignore the addition of Tim Reynolds to the company.
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And so what? Explain what successful achievements he has had (with SFRX) ????
Produced a toy for which to date there is no verifiable evidence that it even works. No shipwrecks. No treasure. That's really the bottom line whether you like it or not.
Continuation of turds wrapped in a fancy candy bar wrapper.
Most intelligent shareholders buy shares in companies they research, and believe they are on the up and up!
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I'm not contesting your intelligence but it appears you missed your mark on this one.
QUOTE: Is that why SFRX has failed to……
locate treasure, cuz there’s a boogeyman out there?
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It's a clown town show of unprofessionalism and incompetence. Obvious poor judgment and bad decisions. Always has been and likely always will.
Quote: How does one continue to defend failure like this?
Easy, SFRX has not failed.
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SFRX has not failed? I'll believe that when Santa Claus comes down the chimney on Christmas Eve and the tooth fairy leaves dimes under my pillow.
Quote: The, BOD and Advisory Board have individuals that are easily vetted.
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Like Torros or what ever his name was. - right?
SFRX personnel including egg head scientists (for this project) were recruited right out of the Barnum & Bailey Circus. A repetitious clown act at its best.
How does one continue to defend failure like this?
Quote: The future of Seafarer looks bright! ... and shiny!
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About as bright and shiny as a burnt out lightbulb. Is this 'Emperor's New Clothing' game going to ever end? Pathetic and actually getting boring.
Quote: Yes, I think most sentient humans agree with my analysis.
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Agree? Not at all. Your lengthly analysis was all about correctness and chastisement from your prospective. Mostly all about the stock and totally evasive (of course) to the fact that the company as a whole is a total bungling failure. And you can state 'bullshit misdirection'. That's what SFRX is all about especially as represented by its dedicated shareholding cheerleading section. A real long running joke.
Quote: I think it is Trillion of dollars on the ocean floor.
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Pathetic. SFRX by performance has proven incapable of finding any of it.
Yes I know - 'but just you wait and see'.
Pathetic.
Sounds to me like another year has come and gone and a shit ton of excuses are on the horizon.
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Yes, another season gone with the same results as last year and those before. A whole lot of bla, bla, bla, just you wait and see excuses.
The point you made is an excellent one. Here they find a conglomerate and like an admission of guilt, don't even know what's in it. If the Timmy Toy could do what they claim it can do, they could make a few passes or hover over it and know exactly what's in it. Right? And as it goes; 'and the farmer hauled another load away'.
Quote: Whaoo, is correct, SFRX does not need patent.
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A patent for what anyway? It's all rather silly. A nonperforming toy. Bottom line. What has it found? Where's the gold? Where's the silver?
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lousy good for nothing pile of crap kyle and co SUCK
GREAT Post, thank you again for being so insightful. I really do believe you add a tremendous amount to the discussion. Your posts really dig deep.
Thanks Pal
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I see there are times one can find some genuine humor in all this.
Quote: You have clearly told the board as an expert that SFRX is trying to do something novel.
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Thank you. Point made. Just somewhat irritated by off track analogies. Really doesn't matter though.
Quote:Sfrx is out working! I can only imagine some people if they had been standing at Kitty Hawk! Well I think that dang Orville is crazy! And Wilbur don't seem right either! That dang thing ain't going to work! They need to be feeding their horses and not wasting time!! Lololo jmo
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Excuse me but why do you seem to always come up with these rather senseless analogies? As the SFRX amateurs are out doing their thing with the zero performance track record Timmy Toy, the pros. have long surpassed your Wright Brothers Kitty Hawk analogy with professionals like Webber discovering the 1641 Concepcion, Fisher discovering the 1622 Atocha and Margarita, and Marx, followed up by Carl Allen recently, discovering the 1656 Maravillas, and there are many more could be cited; ALL FOUND WITH PROTON OR CESIUM MARINE MAGNETOMETERS. How far does one continuously go insisting the fancy wrapped turd is a PayDay candy bar?
Quote: All I know is that I would not take advice from entities that have no firsthand knowledge about the operations or understandings regarding the crew, officers, scientists or the capabilities of the SeaSearcher.
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A treasure hunting company with two water sport boats, apparently inexperienced personnel and tinker toy technology that apparently doesn't do what it's bragged up to do. No shipwrecks. No treasure.
The bottom line to your lengthly post is the fact that SFRX puts out an amateur hour performance and stands as a colossal failure in the treasure hunting industry while it's CEO continues to be rewarded with a 350 grand a year salary for achieving nothing. How exciting can it get.
Quote: How could they not know what the conglomerate is? Pictured below.
I thought the Timmy Toy could see all and knows all.
But yes, it shouldn’t take years to scan Juno, but it has. They were talking about scanning Juno a long time ago.
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Oh boy, and the band played on. Aren't we led to believe that the Timmy Toy sees all and knows all. So what's the problem with doing a few passovers and knowing exactly what tis blob of crap is. Well, what are they waiting for? It worked in the swimming pool and the fish tank didn't it?
Quote: It’s rhetorical.
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Good sea conditions again for another week. So how long is it going to take SFRX to find all those tons of gold and silver that Judd Laird held out on Kennedy, the blacked out survey area. I would imagine that could have been surveyed by the Timmy Toy in a matter of days. Do I sense something wrong here?
Using water sports recreational boats (Who in H. was that stupid to have chosen those) they've got to have good sea conditions, Well they've been good for the last two weeks.
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AMZ552-292115-
Volusia-Brevard County Line to Sebastian Inlet 0-20 nm-
1023 AM EDT Mon Aug 29 2022
THIS AFTERNOON
Southeast winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 2 to
3 feet. A dominant period 4 seconds. A moderate chop on the
intracoastal waters. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
TONIGHT
South winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. A
dominant period 4 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal
waters. Scattered showers and isolated thunderstorms in the
evening, then isolated showers after midnight.
TUESDAY
South winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. A
dominant period 5 seconds. A moderate chop on the intracoastal
waters. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
TUESDAY NIGHT
South winds 10 to 15 knots diminishing to 5 to
10 knots after midnight. Seas 2 to 3 feet. A light chop on the
intracoastal waters. Slight chance of showers and thunderstorms.
WEDNESDAY
South winds 5 to 10 knots becoming southeast in the
afternoon. Seas around 2 feet. A light chop on the intracoastal
waters. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
WEDNESDAY NIGHT
South winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas around 2 feet.
Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
THURSDAY
South winds 5 to 10 knots becoming southeast in the
afternoon. Seas around 2 feet. Chance of showers and
thunderstorms.
THURSDAY NIGHT
South winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas around 2 feet.
Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
FRIDAY
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas around 2 feet.
Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
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AMZ555-292115-
Sebastian Inlet to Jupiter Inlet 0-20 nm-
1023 AM EDT Mon Aug 29 2022
THIS AFTERNOON
South winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas around 2 feet.
A dominant period 4 seconds. A moderate chop on the intracoastal
waters. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
TONIGHT
South winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. A
dominant period 4 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal
waters. Scattered showers in the evening. Isolated thunderstorms.
Isolated showers after midnight.
TUESDAY
South winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas around 2 feet. A
dominant period 4 seconds. A moderate chop on the intracoastal
waters. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
TUESDAY NIGHT
South winds 10 to 15 knots diminishing to 5 to
10 knots after midnight. Seas around 2 feet. A light chop on the
intracoastal waters. Slight chance of showers and thunderstorms.
WEDNESDAY
South winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas less than 2 feet. A
light chop on the intracoastal waters. Chance of showers and
thunderstorms.
WEDNESDAY NIGHT
South winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas around 2 feet.
Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
THURSDAY
South winds 5 knots becoming southeast in the
afternoon. Seas less than 2 feet. Chance of showers and
thunderstorms.
THURSDAY NIGHT
South winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas less than
2 feet. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
FRIDAY
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas less than 2 feet.
Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
Quote: Exactly what the F....ck I'm talking about!
6 years later ....
It's @ Time for this to Explode to the Moon !!!
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Wow. Some salty language there.
So what's Timmy designing now. A rocket ship for a moon landing? Might prove better with that then he has with the see all know all Timmy Toy.
Quote: Do other AUVs discriminate between silver, gold, copper, iron, bronze, lead, aluminum, stainless steel and other metals like the SeaSearcher does? Or do they just say if something is iron or not iron? Let me help. They do not. They can only indicate if something is ferrous or non-ferrous. And maybe provide very low resolution images of what they are able to show.
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No they don't and neither does the Timmy Toy. If there is any FACTUAL evidence it does , I and others would certainly like to see it. All talk - no show.
Quote: You never responded. Why are we waiting……
for a Juno dive video from the (ahem) new LLC, formed in 2018, when Kyle said they had a media deal in Nov 2020?
The treasure is said to be worth BILLION$, but the media offer was in the million$.
Gotta love that logic.
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It all funnels down into one simple category - bullshit. Repetitiously proven over and over again.
Quote: Kongsberg is a real as it gets. Anyone familiar……
with subsea anything knows Kongsberg.
https://www.kongsberg.com/maritime/
https://www.kongsberg.com/maritime/products/
If you made a video of a mag, sub bottom profiler, or side scan, in action would you see the coverage of the area being scanned?
Of course not, hence the animation.
Maybe this will help.
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These of course are examples "the real deal" ocean technology companies. When making any comparison to SFRX it makes them look like they're doing a sixth grade science fair project.
Quote: Any word on the Juno dive video?
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Can't wait to see this. Just can't wait. Not difficult to predict the for couch potatoes drama this is going to be. Wonder who will stand libel for likely untruthful if not fraudulent statements? Of course, all in the wording.
Quote: Just to clarify, Hedge is not the one who is married to the use of a magnetometer in discovery, its Raider and me, although strictly sarcastically in my case. Can't wait to see nico's in depth analysis of this potential development.
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You are aware of course that nearly every major Spanish treasure shipwreck (and others); 1554 Fleet Padre Island wrecks, Mel Fisher's 1622 Atocha & Margarita, Burt Webber's 1641 Concepcion, Bob Marx's 1656 Maravilla, (and many others) were discovered using MARINE MAGNETOMETERS.
I am most perplexed as to why so many of you choose to remain in denial on the matter? Comparatively speaking, the TIMMY TOY hasn't found crap and likely never will.
Sea Conditions good.
I must believe that with sea conditions as they are and have been over the last several days the Timmy Toy must have been able to pin-point the tons of gold and silver (what was it 14 billion?) that Judd Laird held out on with that blacked out area off of Juno Beach. That should have represented an easy survey of what, perhaps two three days with the Timmy Toy. What happened? No gold or silver?
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AMZ552-170930-
Volusia-Brevard County Line to Sebastian Inlet 0-20 nm-
325 PM EDT Tue Aug 16 2022
TONIGHT
Southwest winds 10 to 15 knots becoming west after
midnight. Seas 2 to 3 feet. A dominant period 9 seconds. A light
chop on the intracoastal waters. Slight chance of showers and
thunderstorms in the evening.
WEDNESDAY
Southwest winds 10 to 15 knots becoming southeast
5 to 10 knots in the afternoon. Seas around 2 feet. A dominant
period 9 seconds. A moderate chop on the intracoastal waters.
Slight chance of showers and thunderstorms in the morning, then
chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon.
WEDNESDAY NIGHT
South winds 5 to 10 knots becoming southwest
after midnight. Seas around 2 feet. A dominant period 0 seconds.
Mostly smooth on the intracoastal waters. Chance of showers and
slight chance of thunderstorms.
THURSDAY
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming southeast in
the afternoon. Seas around 2 feet. A light chop on the
intracoastal waters. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
THURSDAY NIGHT
South winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. A
light chop on the intracoastal waters. Chance of showers and
slight chance of thunderstorms.
FRIDAY
South winds 5 to 10 knots becoming southeast 10 to
15 knots in the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet. A moderate chop on
the intracoastal waters. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
FRIDAY NIGHT
South winds 10 to 15 knots diminishing to 5 to
10 knots after midnight. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Slight chance of
showers and thunderstorms.
SATURDAY
South winds 5 knots becoming east in the afternoon.
Seas around 2 feet. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
SATURDAY NIGHT
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas around
2 feet.
SUNDAY
East winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas around 2 feet. Chance of
showers and thunderstorms.
sea
Amateur
Quote: He was unable.to meet any compliance structure, so in return, they collaborated with SFRX, but not in good faith.
Glad I could help.
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Don't be glad because you didn't help at all. Marx and Foster were already done with the Juno Beach site as were some other notable professionals including Duke Long who was Burt Webber's artist, cartographer and underwater site planner on the discovery of the 1641 'Concepcion'. These are all notable professionals. Not a bunch of armature clowns as SFRX was and still is.