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OT - Barge - thanks, you're being too kind IMO.
My background is in telco ... I know first hand there is absolute panic among the common carriers as services - both enterprise and consumer - undergo a paradigm shift brought by the IP-centric network. There is a tremendous drive to "get there" before the cable co's scooop up the market.
Competition for the services enabled by IP - like IPTV - is driving infrastructure and innovation like nothing else since the advent of digital switching. Let's hope that trusted transactions are ready for primetime.
http://www.iptvnews.net/iptv/Press_Releases/354.htm
Growth projection will be from 1.9 million subscribers in 2004 to 25.3 million in 2008 ... The report also forecasts IP TV subscriber revenue growth from $635 million in 2004 to $7.2 billion in 2008, also broken down on regional and service-provider levels.
cliff
Barge - I think the current Seagate/WAVE agreement covers only the Momentus drives using FDE technology, and targets enterprise customers. DriveTrust looks like a parallel development that lines up more with the consumer market ... it's infrastructure that would enable the Seagate drive to authenticate against a TPM-enabled media centre PC. Or an X-Box.
We're not there yet ... more mass required for trusted execution before it goes critical ... but I think it's very positive.
See:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/jun05/06-07ScientificAtlantaPR.mspx
Scientific-Atlanta and Microsoft Sign Development and Cooperation Agreement for Internet Protocol Television Solutions
Agreement fosters interoperability of the two companies’ IP television hardware and software solutions.
CHICAGO — June 7, 2005 — Scientific-Atlanta Inc. and Microsoft Corp. have entered into an agreement to collaborate on the development of Scientific-Atlanta advanced encoders that will be compatible with the Microsoft® TV Internet Protocol Television (IPTV) Edition software platform. These encoders will support MPEG4 part 10 and VC-1, the proposed SMPTE (Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers) standard video codec based on Windows Media® Video 9, to deliver integrated IP television (IPTV) services. As a result of the agreement, broadband network operators will be able to use Microsoft and Scientific Atlanta products to offer live and on-demand television programming at lower data rates than today’s current delivery systems while maintaining broadcast-quality video.
“Our goal is to accelerate the availability of IPTV services for network operators worldwide, and that includes ensuring we have a world-class ecosystem of technology partners like Scientific-Atlanta that support and bring added value to our software platforms on behalf of our joint customers,” said Phil Corman, director of worldwide partner development for the Microsoft TV Division. “Interoperability with an experienced video leader such as Scientific-Atlanta provides broadband operators with great price-performance economies of scale as they launch IPTV services.”
Microsoft TV IPTV Edition is a comprehensive software platform that allows broadband providers to deliver compelling digital TV services using their existing IP networks. Leading broadband operators worldwide are conducting trials or planning to deploy IPTV services based on the Microsoft TV IPTV Edition platform.
The combination of Scientific-Atlanta’s leadership in the delivery of broadband and digital video entertainment, and Microsoft’s leadership in digital TV software can help IPTV service providers reduce both deployment costs and time-to-market as they roll out IPTV to consumers.
“Combining our encoder and integration experience with the power of the Microsoft TV IPTV Edition software platform will help enable broadband operators to enjoy the benefits of a seamless, integrated system,” said Paul Connolly, vice president and general manager of emerging businesses at Scientific-Atlanta. “This advanced video network platform will help broadband operators deliver a next-generation TV viewing experience that complements voice and data services.”
About Scientific-Atlanta
Scientific-Atlanta, Inc. (NYSE: SFA - http://www.scientificatlanta.com) is a leading supplier of digital content contribution and distribution systems, transmission networks for broadband access to the home, digital interactive set-tops and subscriber systems designed for video, high-speed Internet and voice over IP (VoIP) networks, and worldwide customer service and support.
“Forward-looking statements,” as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, may be included in this news release. A variety of factors could cause Scientific-Atlanta’s actual results to differ from the anticipated results expressed in such forward-looking statements. Investors are referred to Scientific-Atlanta’s Cautionary Statements (Exhibit 99.1 to the Company’s most recent Form 10-Q), which statements are incorporated into this news release by reference.
About the Microsoft TV Platform
The Microsoft TV platform is a family of software solutions that help network operators create and deliver new digital TV services that delight consumers. Designed to help cable providers and telecommunications companies derive more value from their digital video and network infrastructure investments, the Microsoft TV family supports a full range of services including interactive program guides, digital video recording, high-definition TV, on-demand programming and Internet Protocol TV (IPTV) services. The Microsoft TV platform works across a full range of set-top boxes and TV devices. More information about Microsoft TV can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/tv.
and from my original post;
http://www.seagate.com/cda/newsinfo/newsroom/releases/article/0,1121,2680%5E4,00.html
At the National Show (Booth 5664) in San Francisco, Seagate will demonstrate its External DVR Hard Drive plugged into the Scientific-Atlanta Explorer(r) 8300(tm) Series DVR.
cliff
Barge, do you see any potential synergies with this?
http://www.seagate.com/cda/newsinfo/newsroom/releases/article/0,1121,2680%5E4,00.html
In addition, Seagate today unveils a new application of its DriveTrust technology that enables cable service operators and DVR makers to lock external storage devices to a specific DVR or other device. This helps implement more robust digital rights management solutions for set-top boxes and enables a more rapid roll-out of better, easier-to-use entertainment storage technologies to consumers. Seagate DriveTrust technology enables a variety of hard drive-based protection and privacy solutions.
cliff
Ramsey2, absolutely. This would be an answer to the prayers of corporate employees who split their work time between home and office.
I wonder how proprietary the Seagate solution is. Assuming the HD attaches to the USB, then could the FDE technology be implemented on other portable memory devices ... that would be huge, and very complemetary to the secure USB initiative.
I'm also interested in what will follow from this Seagate teaser:
http://www.seagate.com/cda/newsinfo/newsroom/releases/article/0,1121,2680%5E4,00.html
In addition, Seagate today unveils a new application of its DriveTrust technology that enables cable service operators and DVR makers to lock external storage devices to a specific DVR or other device. This helps implement more robust digital rights management solutions for set-top boxes and enables a more rapid roll-out of better, easier-to-use entertainment storage technologies to consumers. Seagate DriveTrust technology enables a variety of hard drive-based protection and privacy solutions.
cliff
Ramsey2, to update what I posted 2 minutes ago ...
http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/marketing/PO-Momentus-FDE.pdf
APPLICATIONS
• Notebook Computers
• Tablet PCs
• External Storage
cliff
Ramsey2,
The Seagate trusted drives are targeted at notebooks (although other applications, including external, are probably in the pipeline), and 1.2 for notebooks hasn't been announced yet.
http://www.seagate.com/cda/newsinfo/newsroom/releases/article/0,1121,2732,00.html
"Seagate has taken the lead in responding to increasing concern about lost or stolen business and personal data with an easy, cost-effective way to deliver strong protection against unauthorized access to data on notebook PCs. Seagate's new Momentus 5400 FDE hard drive will use hardware-based Full Disc Encryption (FDE)..."
cliff
Foam, corroboration of your post on Dynaplay:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=6620193
cliff
awk, I was surprised that no-one (not that barge is no-one) responded to the bolded text (below) in this Seagate-related post yesterday. The mechanism to authenticate the "DVR or other device" is not specified, but a TPM is certainly one alternative. In the case of a PC-based media-centre DVR, it would be higly probable.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=6609443
In addition, Seagate today unveils a new application of its DriveTrust technology that enables cable service operators and DVR makers to lock external storage devices to a specific DVR or other device. This helps implement more robust digital rights management solutions for set-top boxes and enables a more rapid roll-out of better, easier-to-use entertainment storage technologies to consumers. Seagate DriveTrust technology enables a variety of hard drive-based protection and privacy solutions.
cliff
VH, awk - note that these drives don't ship until YE 2005 ("this winter") and early 2006 ship - lots of time to sign up OEM's and prepare infrastructure.
cliff
barge,
Seagate uses FDE - full disc encryption - that can be enhanced by the TPM. The HP DriveLock is just user and master passwords, and presumably hackable like any other similar scheme. It seems that FDE is an order-of-magnitude more elegant and secure, especially coupled to a TPM.
cliff
Vacationhouse, interesting. I found the same Wave logo forensic in this PR aimed at a different market:
http://www.seagate.com/cda/newsinfo/newsroom/releases/article/0,1121,2680%5E4,00.html
SEAGATE EXPANDS DVR CAPABILITIES
CE leader demonstrates compact DVR platform, external DVR storage, new DRM capabilities at NCTA
SAN FRANCISCO, Calif.—04 April 2005— Seagate (NYSE: STX), the world's leading maker of DVR Hard Drives, today will exhibit its new class of add-on DVR storage devices designed to plug easily into properly equipped digital video recorders (DVR) and set-top boxes. At the National Show (Booth 5664) in San Francisco, Seagate will demonstrate its External DVR Hard Drive plugged into the Scientific-Atlanta Explorer(r) 8300(tm) Series DVR. The drive features up to 400GB of additional television storage in a single plug-and-play box - the highest capacity in the industry - and offers 1394, USB, or the new high-performance eSATA interface. Seagate offers its External DVR Hard Drive to cable service operators who want to provide add-on storage to their compatible cable DVR set-top boxes. Interested consumers and cable subscribers should check with their cable service provider regarding compatibility and availability.
Seagate will also demonstrate an entirely new concept for inside-the-box DVR storage that enables smaller, simpler, cooler-running and more cost-effective DVR designs. Based on Seagate's industry-leading technology platforms, and with a new 2.5-inch form factor that can offer up to 120GB of internal DVR storage, products based on this platform can be made available to interested DVR and set-top box manufacturers. Seagate is the only hard drive maker today offering this option for a new DVR platform.
In addition, Seagate today unveils a new application of its DriveTrust technology that enables cable service operators and DVR makers to lock external storage devices to a specific DVR or other device. This helps implement more robust digital rights management solutions for set-top boxes and enables a more rapid roll-out of better, easier-to-use entertainment storage technologies to consumers. Seagate DriveTrust technology enables a variety of hard drive-based protection and privacy solutions.
Expandable DVR storage
As subscribers become more comfortable with their DVRs and home media centers, more content will fill up these devices' internal drives. High-definition services can consume about six times more storage capacity than standard television consumes on DVRs. With Seagate's new External DVR Hard Drives, subscribers can easily expand the storage capacity of their compatible DVRs, enabling them to keep the same DVR longer as they upgrade capacity. The drive offers up to 400GB of additional TV storage in a single plug-and-play box. On compatible DVRs, additional drives for even more storage can be daisy chained and stacked or placed side-by-side.
Manufacturers of set-top boxes, DVRs and home media centers are looking for an efficient way to upgrade and expand the capabilities of their products. Seagate offers cable MSOs a comprehensive business model that can enable service operators to provide external DVR storage service to subscribers with minimized startup time, investment, and inventory commitment.
Based on its successful and award-winning design for PC-based external backup and storage, Seagate's partnership with service providers goes far beyond providing the External DVR Hard Drive unit:
* Product customization - many aspects of the External DVR Hard Drive's industrial design can be customized to maximize a service operator's brand image.
* Technology flexibility - Seagate also offers a variety of capacity points and compatible interfaces including 1394, USB and the new high-performance, low-cost eSATA interface, and can assist with the development of features such as content protection and enhanced video streaming.
* Outsourcing efficiency - service operators can utilize the call centers of the world's leading hard drive company to outsource any or all customer support for these external storage units, including pre-sales support, order-taking and product fulfillment, 24x7 technical support, and warranty service. This eliminates the need to train customer support staff on hard drive technology, reduces inventory exposure, and speeds time to market.
About Seagate
Seagate is the worldwide leader in the design, manufacturing and marketing of hard disc drives, providing products for a wide-range of Enterprise, Desktop, Mobile Computing, and Consumer Electronics applications. Seagate's business model leverages technology leadership and world-class manufacturing to deliver industry-leading innovation and quality to its global customers, and to be the low cost producer in all markets in which it participates. The company is committed to providing award-winning products, customer support and reliability to meet the world's growing demand for information storage. Seagate can be found around the globe and at www.seagate.com.
Seagate, Seagate Technology and the Wave logo are registered trademarks of Seagate Technology LLC. DriveTrust is a trademark or registered trademark of Seagate Technology LLC. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. Specified storage capacities reflect standard configurations exclusive of operating system or other software formatting.
cliff
Barge, I don't think so. From page 8 of the link below:
The latest HP DriveLock implementation is based on the industry standard ATA-3 IDE controller specification, making it compatible with any ATA-3 compliant hard drive.
ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/security/DriveLock_Hard_Drive_Protection_OV.pdf
cliff
Intel sets its sights on India's PC market
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.asp?Feed=FT&Date=20050606&ID=48670...
... Intel has also signed partnerships with several banks, including the Small Industries and Development Bank of India, the largest lender to small and medium-sized businesses.
The aim was to "ensure affordable financing and technology knowhow reaches potentially the largest community of new computer users", said Mr N. Balasubramanian, SIDBI's chairman.
In spite of strong growth, only nine out of 1,000 people in India possess a computer, in contrast to China, where ownership is five times greater. Only 18 per cent of India's 8m small and medium-sized businesses owns a computer.
"This is about reaching the next 1bn users, the bulk of which we believe will come from India and China," said Mr Ketan Sampat, president of Intel's Indian unit.
Is it possible the Indian banks might be interested in the Intel Digital Office?
http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/corporate.htm
cliff
awk, hard to say where this might lead. I envision this as a way to standardize the management tools for an enterprise that is on a TPM implementation journey. From a trusted infrastructure perspective you are right on ... virtualization is a good thing.
I question whether a virtual TPM would secure a client as robustly as hardware TPM. In any event, it would be interesting to see how the Wave IP might apply to virtual TPM's. Not my area, but I would expect a lot of the client software processes and routines to be virtually the same.
cliff
rachelelise, there would be some nominal cost to HP if Infineon software was bundled with the BCM 5752. And if it was bundled, then the software & cost would be passed on to the purchaser. That the TPM 1.2 requires a separate software purchase suggests that this bundling arrangement has not been subscribed to by HP.
From the PR issued April 25th:
http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=700509
Broadcom's TPM <1.2> controller-based implementation includes both hardware and software and is driven by comprehensive security software based on technology from Infineon Corporation. The TPM software includes many usability features that IT managers need to deploy TPM security easily such as key migration and key backup.
cliff
Pickle Power, nice find.
What do you make of this comment on page 3?
"Embedded TPM 1.2 compliant security module (requires separate software purchase)."
Could it be that there is no Infineon software for Broadcom 1.2, and that HP is the next OEM domino?
cliff
tampa123, we're interoperable. ;o)
cliff
cosmoworld7, I looked at your posting history, and don't see anything sinister. Welcome to Waveland, and enjoy the ride - your timing is impeccable!
There are some very talented people performing and sharing DD on this board, so do take the time to read the links - it will provide what you need, and save alot of time here.
Are you a VisuaLabs survivor? It was not so bad as it could have been, given the performance of Petrofalcon until recently.
I hope you weren't part of that Book4Golf scam as well ...
cliff
Weby, I concur ... YE 2005 is a sensible planning horizon for institutions to perform 1.2 trials, and then, provided the trial results are positive, expend their remaining 2005 budget allocations.
Stll, a TVTonic push into the Consumer market for Christmas would be a tonic of another sort here ...
cliff
Doma, ASUS would be a terrific win!
I also found this of interest from Uli on the silicon side:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.8080.net/html/200502/n2214...
moreover, this chip also supported some security technologies, included by TCG (Trusted Computing Group). Development TPM (Trusted Platform Module) 1.2 standard standards.
cliff
Super reports from the SHM! Many thanks for sharing.
cliff
efs,
Maybe you missed the excitement yesterday. You'll find a competitive analysis on page 7 of this report that should answer your questions. And Snackman has provided a wealth of relevant links in the intro to the board ...
http://www.jmdutton.com/research/WAVX/Reports/WAVX_Report_051705.pdf
cliff
Doma, it's also possible that the referenced 5751 product brief is in error, which I believe I expressed in this post on Friday:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=6331643
Doma and eamonnshute: more accurate to say that according to the links, it's unclear how the 1.2 is delivered.
To which you replied:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=6331701
cliffdweller....more accurate to say
that Broadcom's TPM1.2 is based on the BCM5752
while the BCM5751 chip is TPM 1.1b.....
Whatever ... we'll find out soon enough.
Cheers,
cliff
eamonnshute, blame it on the Dell documentation being in error .. slightly. The product brief for the 5751 (link is on the page you posted) does show a TPM:
http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/pb/5751-PB02-R.pdf
So, the Dell documentation is either incomplete or in error ... either the 380 is a 1.2-equipped PC using something other than the 5751, or it's a 1.1-equipped PC using the 5751 (staus-quo).
cliff
Foam, this is a TCG 1.1b model using Infineon.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://panasonic.jp/pc/products/y4g/prin...
cliff
trustcousa, the links don't support the conclusion that it's Broadcom ... could be that the Dell announcement of 1.2 functionality is incorrect.
cliff
Doma and eamonnshute: more accurate to say that according to the links, it's unclear how the 1.2 is delivered.
Cheers,
cliff
Doma, TPM 1.2 is based on Broadcom BCM5751 ...
http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/precn/en/spec_precn_380_en.pdf
http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/pb/5751-PB02-R.pdf
cliff
Snackman, this comment prompts clarification of what defines an OEM, i.e. is Gateway an OEM or a whitebox supplier?
Loosely speaking, probably. Strictly speaking, not sure.
I'm thinking more like Fujitsu, Samsung, or Toshiba.
Whatever, it's a positive development.
cliff
Overlooked STM news item from September 14, 2004 - 1 week after announcing their Trusted Computing Group 1.2 Solution. Recalling Waves IDF demo with Silicon Image in 2001, I wonder what innovations might emerge in the next version?
http://www.st.com/stonline/press/news/year2004/p1494p.htm
First Single-Chip HDTV Set-top Box Solution from STMicroelectronics Cuts Costs and Integrates DVR and Security Capabilities
Powerful high-definition STB decoder builds on the popular predecessor ICs, and adds HDCP security for DVI/HDMI interfaces, plus AAC audio and HiSpeed USB
Geneva, September 14, 2004 - STMicroelectronics (NYSE: STM) has announced the most highly integrated single-chip solution yet for high definition STBs (Set-top Boxes), the STi7710. Effectively combining the functions of ST's successful and popular STi7020 HDTV (High Definition TV) decoder IC, and the STi5517 Omega decoder - and integrating on-chip additional features such as Hi-Speed USB and a High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) processor - the new IC will be easier and cheaper to design in, yet will provide more sophisticated features for consumers and greater security for content providers.
ST is the world's largest supplier of MPEG-2 decoder silicon chips for set-top boxes2, with around 77% market share. This highly integrated System-on-Chip (SoC) decoder will reduce costs for manufacturers of high-definition STBs for the established US market and in the Far East and Australia, and will further encourage the emerging market for HDTV in Europe. "We expect the market for high-definition set-top boxes to reach 12 million units in 2008," said In-Stat/MDR Analyst Michelle Abraham. "Devices such as the STi7710 provide consumer-electronics manufacturers with all the features they need to build successful and cost-effective products."
Commenting on the European market, Gabriel Fehervari, CEO of Euro1080 - the first channel to broadcast exclusively in High Definition throughout Europe - said: "One of the enablers for the HDTV market in Europe is the availability of low-cost set-top boxes. The STi7710 provides the high-performance CPU and video-decoding functions required by these devices at a very attractive price point. We look forward to the deployment of STBs based on this new chip in the near future."
The new IC's integrated High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP1) module secures the digital interface to an HDCP-enabled TV set and protects the high-quality, high-value intellectual property (IP) of program producers by authenticating and monitoring decryption keys. The widely accepted HDCP specification provides a robust but transparent method of transmitting encrypted digital entertainment content to DVI-compliant digital displays, without compromising the convenience for the viewer of legitimate copying or timeshifting.
The STi7710 provides both Digital Video Interface (DVI) and High Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI) display interfaces to ensure STB output flexibility at minimum system cost, and offers improved audio capability at low bit rates through an embedded Advanced Audio Coding (AAC) decoder. HDMI builds on DVI to create the highest performance TV interface standard to date, with enhanced video performance and the capability to carry up to eight channels of 192kHz audio. The chip also includes SRS TruSurround XT, an advanced audio technology from SRS Labs Inc., which delivers cinema-quality virtual surround sound over two-speaker television or entertainment systems, and other audio features.
An embedded Hi-Speed USB Host - operating at 480-Mbits/second, 40-times faster than the USB 1.1 standard - will allow peripherals to be added easily to a basic STB in order to provide additional functionality. In particular, it could allow a consumer to purchase the STB and add a hard-disk drive at a later date to turn the box into a Digital Video Recorder (DVR). Viewers increasingly use digital video recording for timeshifting programs while preserving video quality, and the interface will enable STB manufacturers to offer consumers a low-cost upgrade path. Other peripherals that could be connected to a set-top box through the USB interface, using suitable drivers, include digital cameras, printers, and memory cards.
"The remarkable level of integration in the STi7710 provides manufacturers with a true HDTV set-top box solution in a single chip," said Christos Lagomichos, General Manager of ST's Home Entertainment Group. "It includes all the necessary video and audio decoders for now and the immediate future, plus HDCP security, a range of interfaces, and expansion capability through Hi-Speed USB."
ST offers a complete software solution for US high-definition markets, where provision of specific features - including Closed Captioning (to EIA-708-B) and the Program and System Information Protocol (PSIP) - is mandated by the FCC; STB manufacturers can choose to license software from ST or from alternative suppliers. Software porting from earlier products is simplified by the STAPI software package, a fully supported and documented programming interface developed by ST as a stable base on which to build applications. It will continue to be available on future chipsets, enabling software portability to next generation devices.
The CPU core of the STi7710 is a high-performance ST20, the dominant CPU in the STB market. It is the fastest version yet, and supports all current middleware in the STB market with power to spare for future software enhancements. A unified memory interface, with DDR (Double Data Rate) SDRAM support, optimizes the use of RAM chips and further increases performance, while an embedded high-performance graphics engine supports graphics-intensive tasks such as the channel's presentation of programmes. An innovative system for flexible routing of video streams from different sources simplifies transport stream management software and improves reliability.
Samples of the STi7710 are available now, and volume production is planned for Q1 2005 at an anticipated high volume price of $18.
About STMicroelectronics
STMicroelectronics is a global leader in developing and delivering semiconductor solutions across the spectrum of microelectronics applications. An unrivalled combination of silicon and system expertise, manufacturing strength, Intellectual Property (IP) portfolio and strategic partners positions the Company at the forefront of System-on-Chip (SoC) technology and its products play a key role in enabling today's convergence markets. The Company's shares are traded on the New York Stock Exchange, on Euronext Paris and on the Milan Stock Exchange. In 2003, the Company's net revenues were $7.24 billion and net earnings were $253 million. Further information on ST can be found at www.st.com.
1 The High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) specification was developed by Intel Corporation
2 In-Stat/MDR - MPEG Video ICs: The Promise of MPEG-4 - June 2004 (Report Number: IN0401230MI)
http://www.wave.com/news/press_archive/01/010226SiliconImageIDF.htm
Wave Systems To Demonstrate Trusted PC Solutions With Silicon Image at Intel Developer Forum
Trust @ the Edge Architecture Expands to Include Trusted Display
EMBASSY® With Trusted Computing Platform
Alliance Capability Demonstrated
Lee, MA (Feb. 26, 2001) – Wave Systems Corp. (Nasdaq: WAVX) today announced it will demonstrate the integration of Wave's EMBASSY® trusted client technology with Silicon Image's (Nasdaq: SIMG) PanelLink® Digital Visual Interface (DVI) implementation featuring High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) at the Spring Intel Developer Forum to be held today through March 1 at the San Jose Convention Center.
Cheers,
cliff
mark1, I'm just speculating. But if it were true, then the Broadcom/Infineon arrangement would be toast.
cliff
hawkshaw, that kind of growth suggests an acquisition.
IBM sold their PC business. Why not HP, especially with their change at the top?
Just speculation ...
cliff
Doma, thanks - got it (still don't know how you found that).
Today's news looks like it's the "no blood" variety. Frankly, I'm pleased to see the TCG agenda progressing.
cliff
Doma, do you know anything about Secure Foundation? Google reveals nothing.
http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/pb/5752-PB00-R.pdf
Secure Foundation TM provides TPM 1.2 and NGSCB support
o compliant with TCG 1.2 specification
o Secure key management and strong authentication capabilities
cliff
rachelelise, something like this was to be expected ever since the ATI RADEON XPRESS 200P announcement in November:
http://apps.ati.com/ir/PressReleaseText.asp?compid=105421&releaseID=641197
Hothardware told us that the 1.2 functionality was delivered by the Broadcom GE controller:
http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?articleid=597
One can presume that Dell's adoption of Wave software to manage their Broadcom 1.1 TPM's was not a decision made without knowledge of the 1.2 development roadmap, and should point the way for the 1.2 version.
cliff
Thanks go-kitesurf, you're right about USB-connected keyboards.
The animation in Slide 8 of the .ppt awk posted shows "firewalls" between the peripherals and the chipset. I'm just curious how that is accomplished ... there's no suggestion that TPM functionality is involved.
Papers from Winhec should shed some light.
cliff
awk,
This presentation - Slide 8, for instance - refers extensively to protection for the peripheral devices. Wave received a patent in this regard a few years back.
The question this raises is whether the LT / NGSCB roadmap is consistent with the scenario covered by the patent. If so, it's open to speculation how Wave can monetise the overall client architecture. The Seagate secure HD is potentially the first instance of this.
I wonder if there any any talking notes available with the .ppt. The Trusted USB is accomplished in the chip-set (we need details!) and they suggest the need to provide keyboard encryption (I wonder how they might do that? ;o)).
These are good things!
cliff
Doma,
Another link in the value chain!
Any thoughts on whether this motherboard might make an appearance at Winhec?
cliff
eamonnshute,
FWIW, since Winbond is now in the security chip business, it's worth noting that thay have a current relationship with Infineon that may bear watching.
http://www.winbond.com/e-winbondhtm/team/ShowENewsD.asp?messageID=219
"... This further solidifies the foundation for future high-level technology transfer cooperations between the two companies."
They also are licensees of the ARM946E-S and ARM7TDMI, which are not fully TrustZone-enabled, but can run the Security Module software. ...
http://www.arm.com/news/336.html
cliff
go-kitesurf, awk, thanks for your response.
That's where I was going with my post. The Longhorn/TPM trusted-execution capability opens up a quantum of new possibilities for the consumer market currently targeted by MCE. The technology will enable 3-party substitutes ... the MCE marketing guys must be having a fit.
cliff