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No worries mate... by the way, you have your caps locked and caps are YELLING in internet etiquette sir. It´s the little green light on the left side of the keyboard... push once. lol
That is a Steppenwolf quote isn´t it? Born to be wild?
Hard... it has been posted here about 15 times tonight. Count ém.
Thanks Mo... we´ve gotten a bit of rain tho´. It´s still better than a foot of snow in W. Michigan!!! Friends and family back home hate me right now... hahahahaha.
Ok, one more time... no details about donkey fazoo or sheep dip will come out until the name change and cusip# will occur. Got it? If you wait until then, the price will be much higher, IMHO.
I don´t recall the date they did it on but someone here knows... and it was about 2 weeks ago. That´s it. I´ll bet ya a bottle of water it comes out this week. Hey, don´t forget to call our new IR people in the morning. Can you tell me what good, hard questions you´ll ask ém? Then will you please post what they say in the morning for us all to read? Thanks.
You´ve oopsed sir. The $500 mil. was befoe the trade show and they said the show exceeded expectations... now EDS says massive contracts!!! Hey, China needs water really badly, we have it. We have a ten-year relationship with Chinese partners or gov. officials or whomever as stated by Weiss, we have a giant contract now and apparently some massive orders (yes, plural) with countries (yes, plural). Iroquois has confirmed their relationship with us, pix are in the ibox, they´ve got an Olympian on the board, brother in the delivery biz, newsletter guys on board now as IR/PR firm... and they´d all be going to jail if this thing is not what it says it is. It´s just crazy to not see this as the real deal folks. This is not a Tom Clancy novel. This has to be what it appears to be or lots of people will go to jail... for years and years!!!
Oops, sorry... I´m in Cancun and I have vacation brain right now. I just wanted to sign on, get my email, and check out the newsletter. It is true that it is not mindblowing, but it really could not have been... yet. It was a good confirmation of what we all surmise, deduce, and have been told by Aquagold and EDS all along. I would challenge anyone to name one single thing that has been said by either of those entities that has not been true so far. They have performed on all promises in as timely a manner as government processes have allowed. Period. There you go bashers... find one thing.
"Suspicious Minds"- Elvis... "Superstitious"- Stevie Wonder...
You´re right in that "massive" is relative... however, we do know that we have a $500 million contract signed and being delivered even as we speak, so that gives us some sense of what a standard of deviation would be for it to truly be "massive". Is another $100 mil. massive? I would say it´s probably more like another $500 mil., or more, based on the very relativity that you infer, sir.
Hey Walker, perhaps you should call our new IR people (EDS) in the morning (phone# at the bottom of the PR), ask them a million good, hard questions and then tell us what you think about it then? You´d have your tender sensabilites assuaged at the open and you could buy more, or you could be greatly disappoointed and sell me your shares if there is a mm or pantywaist shakedown. It´s a good suggestion dontcha think?
Look, the news is what it is and really couldn´t be anything more until the name change, right? I mean, the contracts are in (as now confirmed by what is a third party), they are "massive" according to that third party (Eric David et al), and clearly ONMC would be foolish (and maybe in violation of a gag rule) if they said anything else. The very news you wish was in this most recent update is coming very soon, after, and only after the cusip# and name change are complete and it would seem (by standard of pattern and practice), that it will be this week. Hold your horses, add some shares from idiotas, and be happy dooood. Here´s a mantra fer ya... "massive contracts". Massive... I just love that, and also the plural "countries". We have no idea how big this thing is going to get but my brain and my gut says it´s a geyser folks!
How the uh, heck could it include a time-frame for the name change? It is now in the hands of a bureaucratic institution and is not in ONMC´s control at all. What, you want them to be psychic? If you can do that, then tell me when my new driver´s license is going to be here... and my boat license tabs too!!! lol
I agree... "methinks thou doth protest too much" is about 500 years old for a good reason. Big Billy Shake knew about bashers... even waaaay back then!!
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That´s awesome! Hey, where is the time-frame indicated for the contract? I´ve searched everywhere in the ibox and elsewhere and I guess I´m still hopin´ it´s for a shorter period of time... maybe it is. GLTA
Do we know the time-frame of the $500 mil. contract? Is that over 5 years, two years... or could it actually be per year!! Now we´re talkin´ supply v demand issues! What a nice "problem" to have. Let them horses run!
Hey Long... when you showed the insider filings, were they insider buys or sells? Thanks.
Absolutely AQGD... I thought we were exploring alternatives. Hey, the Chinese, or lunar, new year is Feb. 7th and the country parties for like 5-7 days straight. So, I'm not sure we're going to get big, big news until after like the 12th or 14th of Feb., but when it comes I think it will be nothing short of stunning.
I want some too!!!
AQLD sounds like Aqualead... I don't think so. How about AQAU? AU is the periodic table's chemical symbol for gold.
I don't believe the symbol change is secondary to contract announcements, but rather it is primary. Management, and shareholders too, want the symbol change first because the news and contract announcements will then be associated with the new trading symbol. It's a "branding" issue that has been discussed here before. I ascribe to that thinking as I would do the same thing if it was my company.
So Blue, could you please explain what all this crap is about? I'm not following this at all and you guys are tossing around an awful lot of esoteric verbiage that most investors don't even know about. How about a good synopsis of what we should know and what is wrong with Spark's propaganda? Thanks in advance.
Well, I've done my DD and there's plenty of it in the ibox of this site, so what have you got as far as er, uh, facts go that controvert all the goodies in the story, the market, the product, the contracts, trade show, Olympics, etc. ???
When does the preponderance of evidence persuade you? Of course there are still questions... my niece would say "like duh!". There are things that management won't, or can't, reveal yet as they are waiting for the new symbol before this evolving story is completely transparent. I believe that falls under the obvious "branding" concept which was well-explained in a previous post.
Clearly we live in a risk versus reward game here... if you wait for absolutely all the information to be out, this will be selling for much, much more than it is now. Simple as that my friend.
Good luck to you... I like the quote from more taxes please where he said something like "come over to this side where it is warm, and sunny, and... I think I even hear birds chirping". Thanks MTP, I'm still laughing over that one.
Doc
***Speculation*** I believe that we have acquired a couple companies like Avitec for distribution (it will save us transport $ in the long run). I believe we have also merged with, or acquired, Iroquois Water (also saves production $ over time), and it makes great business sense.
I think we have several other corporate developments as far as structure and entities are concerned, and that we have probably facilitated some of these mergers and acquisitions with some share distributions (is that dilution or is that buying acretive value?) to the privately held corps.
I also think we have some unbelievable long-term contracts that will take this company to the next level (Olympics, $500 million confirmed, and many, many millions implied by, at this point, pretty much gagged management). I think Mr. Da Silva has spelled these things out as clearly as he can pre-announcements, and that he is doing the best he can to clue us in to what this is going to be, while avoiding a compromise of ethics.
This is all pure inductive and deductive reasoning, sprinkled with my own opinion, and I (to be fair), have labeled it so.
Good luck to all longs and as Cato says... "Carthago delenda est"!
Our MOD is quite fair, as some of my posts are being deleted also sir. Glad you thought it was funny, it was meant to be, but I was also trying to be informative by providing a shopping list of basher techniques so that others might benefit.
Just thought I'd add that if he is deleting your responses, then I clearly cannot answer your questions as they have been deleted, eh? Please keep your sense of humor, and I shall continue with my rye reparte', with the occasional parry and riposte of course.
Doc
Wow... you guys are almost waxing this board into a Zen-like, existential, W. Clement Stone/Norman Vincent Peal/Tony Robbins thing.
Positive Energy may be a bit ethereal for my taste however... I, rather simplistically, just like the tremendous potential this company has in regards to product and market. I like to say "convince me with numbers", but when you can literally claim that we have the most important thing for life on the planet as our product, in the largest single market on Earth to sell it, those two fundamentals do an awful lot to transcend any specificity in numbers.
Well ok, I guess I like the personalities here also. It really is a fun and unique board... it must be that damn positive energy.
Why do I feel like I just joined a cult? lol
I think it may be because most pinky players are short-term-chart-heads more so than story stock investors.
Thanks MTP... however I have violated my own policy of "please don't feed the bashers", but I just couldn't resist aymon's approach bordering on the obviate.
I also like the double entendre of his name... it's a Jamaican version of "yes man". Well, it's pretty clear he's somebody's yes man.
Nice try... that one is called the fallacy of the unrepresentative sample. Paranoid? Ha, find one person here who doesn't think you're a less than subtle basher utilizing typical inference, false questions, and transparent ignorance. In this particular case, you explore the relativity of ONMC's current price versus its previous low rather than that it could go back to its previous highs. My, how subtle. I am Doc Nuance, nice to meet you.
Mon does math like Jethro Bodine. Maybe he ought to be double naught spy.
Aha... look up "straw man argument"... you construct an absurd argument with all your own parameters, and then rip into it? Genius my mon! I won't fall for it, nor will any of us longs chief.
So like... uh what he's saying is that if all other contracts (that have been clearly stated to exist) are null, and if ONMC has a PE of 1!!!! (hahahahaha), and there is a total solar eclipse... then gee whiz it's properly valued? I have never read a more disingenuous manipulative post in my life. As he strives for understated mind-control, he ends up looking like a simple ass.
Missing what? Sorry, I just got in and don't want to read a million messages... what is the new development?
Here comes my 40,000 more... at the ask!
Great post! China has over 4X as many people as live in the US, not 3. 300 mil. versus 1.3 bil.
7 out of the top 10... it's a nightmare and I don't really see a way out of it. Maybe if Detroit just becomes a mass manufacturer of turbines for wind farms or some other crazy industry, it would postpone what appears to be the inevitable...
Detroit's auto industry has been mortally wounded and will not recover to anything even approaching its former glory.
Michigan is a micro-economic model of what is happening to the US, Europe, and the whole G-8 for that matter. We live in a world of nouns which means manufacturing. Period. The west has been sponsoring a fairly bloated culture of excess with cheap imported nouns for almost 30 years, but the relief is only temporary... and the job loss is not.
Of course Michigan is getting hit on unemployment, it's a manufacturing state. Michigan will most likely continue to explore transitioning to a service economy in health care, gambling, tourism, research, probably more defense contracting, agriculture, shipping & rail transport, and mining. Unfortunately it likely will include a general exploitation of the great lakes in every way they can.
Hey... the other bright spot besides Ann Arbor and East Lansing is over here to the west. I live near Grand Rapids and I can tell you that West Michigan is doing fine compared to the east side of the state.
We have beaches, tourism, proximity to Chicago and Detroit, great schools & house per dollar, golf courses everywhere!, 35 minutes from Lake Mi., 4 semi-pro sports teams, condos going up everywhere downtown, GVSU opened a downtown campus, great new bars and restaurants opening up every week, healthy retail, great healthcare, ethnically diverse, presidential library, giant arena... this is just a more balanced and smaller new growth economy compared to the east side where I also lived, schooled- and loved it for 10 years.
The Grand Rapids medical mile is where we implement all the awesome research you guys do. There's also is a ton of old Amway and lumber baron money that's been spending away to get their names on everything they can.
I digress, go ASTM! I'll guess a gap to .68 at open, moves to .74 HOD, and settles at .72 with a little profit-taking at close.
Doc
"Isn't is nuances that u don't read I put today, but try to find what I put two months ago?"
I'm sure this means something. I'm going to keep re-reading it until I can ascribe to it some kind of interpretation.
Posted by: jp8888
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Date:11/21/2007 11:17:19 AM
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It is high time to BUY!
We don't mind whoever is behind the scene, the bottom line is----this is a great company with great transparency. They are moving on. They are the leader. Go with the WINNER!!!!
Sentiment : Strong Buy