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So you don't agree...not surprising...
indeed...but as said before on this board...Financials and PPS do not go hand and hand...if they did...then we would already be seeing steady growth pps wise...so thanks again...
Financials had nothing do what we were discussing...but thanks.
So you agree that talking about new LOWES stores in Australia or any other county for that matter is impractical?... So you agree with me that the potential is just a hope and a wish at this moment? Do you also agree that we should wait till we get out of the 3 store "test" phase until we discuss any further expansion?
P.S. I mean, how can anyone welcome discussion about the Company's expansion, but not the PPS's expansion? They both need each other don't they?
I think Johann's post is great. May not be accurate, or likely...but it leaves room for discussion...let's all expand on it... I mean hey...if we can continue to post LOWES store openings when we are not even "IN" LOWES yet, then why not discuss the PPS potential if we ever did make it in those stores... .10 anyone?
No...I welcome discussion about .10. why not $1?
don't buy in...company is going nowhere any time soon...CEO refuses to release news worthy PR's...dilution continues....their are about 20 sharholders obsessed with the company and buying it's shares...All momentum in the charts are short lived and you will be rushing to sell before the next guy 2 minutes after your first buy...
Good day
I second that...and Scup thirds it...
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How can a statement be both reliable and hearsay? Or should I say, how can a hearsay statement be reliable?
I would be more in tune to believe a post like this is possible than the stuff you put together...When did you start considering testimonials hearsay?
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So If you believe all this is hearsay...I guess Eric could be making this stuff up on his own to keep a fictional belief that there is interest in this unknown product?
You want to discuss maybe's? Maybe Winning Brands develops a new jingle for Winning Colours...as they now have a musician in their back pocket... http://www.myspace.com/roblhicks (thanks for the PM, you know who you are)... Maybe just maybe they can come up with the most "catchy" song that we become known to millions and become a 100 million dollar company in 2 years...Would you like to discuss this with me?
FACT: Skybott, currently we are in 3 Test LOWES stores.
FACT: We as speculative investors do not know if this is permanent or if it's temporary.
FACT: Being in Test stores does not qualify us as having LOWES "in the bag"
QUESTION: Why is it important or even beneficial to know that LOWES is opening stores in other countries if we haven't even received news that we are officially "IN" LOWES?
QUESTION: If you have a good reason why it is important, is it not just as important to know what LOWES stores are closing down nationwide?
FACT: I think like a trader.
FACT: I think like an Investor.
FACT: It is possible to make sense out of a statement that contains both words "premature" and "potential". Potentially, it could be that you thought prematurely before you addressed my post, as you really didn't say to much other than prove to the board that you can't handle both worlds of the market at the same time...trading and investing...
FACT: Rocket and Taki both trade(d) and invest(ed) in WNBD...
QUESTION: Do you want to tell one of them they can't do both at the same time, while in one particular stock?
QUESTION: If "it's all about thinking ahead" of what's happening, then why did you not sell out in the .01's and buy back in in these current prices...thinking ahead 1 year ago would of saved you a lot of money, and made you a whole lot more.
QUESTION: Do you know of any more posts that would lead you believe that I think "purely as a trader"? I know someone of your experience would not make such a statement based off one statement...a statement that explained to not discuss things before they needed to be discussed. (Equivalent to Eric not talking about LOWES being "imminent", share buy backs, or being in Phase 3(like he did last year at this time), when we can't even get out of Phase 1, Or in your case(and the "WNBD's LONGS" hope and dream), Dennis and HarleyBoy not talking about trip 0's until it gets here...)
QUESTION: If you like talking about things 5 years away, what do you think about WNBD being at $1. Shall we initiate a debate on why or why not we think WNBD will be at that PPS in that time frame?
QUESTION: If your answer to the previous question is "NO, I'd rather not discuss this, as it is pointless...then isn't discussing DD 5 years away just as pointless?
Good Day...
And that's what counts...realistic, verifiable, untapped growth....This is good to know...wasn't 2010 suppose to be ramped up marketing? Or was that 2011? Any who...hopefully some real marketing techniques are used and successful next year... wherever 2011 ends up will show what direction (long term) this company is headed...I'll give Eric 1 more year...
Then let's discuss Canadian expansion...Not Australia...
I like the blog to...just not the last one...but like realbiz said....let's give the newbie a chance...maybe he is more motivated and results oriented than Fantus...
Remember...All the longs are buying NOW...as most believe these prices are as cheap as there gonna get....day after day...we see the posts from individuals stating they do not having funds available and wishing they could buy more now....If all the longs are buying in NOW, then where will we find the buyers to buy in if GREAT NEWS did get released? Traders? Na...they will drive the share price right back down as they sell...No awareness campaign...no Product marketing...no Staff consistency...No hope....just desperation...
Eric already spilled the beans about the quarter's numbers...it's already factored into the PPS...which is why we tested .005 again....now a downtrend again...and it will continue even after the 4th quarter numbers are released...
not good for me ...bad for both of us
Yea TAKI...Your absolutely right! WALGREENS is NEXT! Although....we will only get in aboiut 3 "TesT" Stores...ad there will be NO PR about it...just Blogs...All this after the LOWES update comes out via blog...explaing that LOWES was happy with the product and loved it...and a BS excuse why they want to "wait" a while until they do a complete roll-out...yea...whateva...not buying it anymore...
Who cares if his past experience was in Walgreens??? Steve Fantus had Past experience in WD-40 operations and had contacts galore with dozens of other Bigger Retailers...which he never used....This Blog is crap...And I see it as a negative...more step backwards...
Ah...just great...Mr. WD-40 out...Mr. Nobody in...If this company was going so well...or had the long-term potential to succeed....I doubt someone would be looking for other positions and jump ship..."Leave" Fantus has done NOTHING SINCE HE CAME ON BOARD!!! (ok ok ok....well at least nothing that's worth discussing)
I hope Mr. Nobody can ignite a new flame in WNBD, cause the pride filled CEO is losing a hell of a lot of my confidence leading into the New Year...
Dennis, FFF, and Wrinkles said it best earlier...and I agree with all those posts...If we have not heard a LOWES update yet...it's probably not happening...
Do you think we'll see green next week VD?
Great Call!
Good Job VD Great DD...
New Clean-up for WC?
http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/
Nascar workers can have a great time using Winning Colours cleaning up those skid marks.
Merry Christmas TO ALL...I will continue my daily DD now.
I'm really confused Ant, care to assist? You stated:
oh ok I get you now. I agree with you. So all info/memos/conference calls/technical charts/ PR's in relation, or supplied by winning brands over one year ago should be considered obsolete,null and void? Got it.
17 new stores to carry WC when/if they get back in...is that misleading? Yes...2006 is 4 years ago...but I still used the word "new" in my statement...people still consider winning brands a "new" company...winning colours a "new" product...after almost 6 years...i used that as my baseline when choosing the word "new", relating to stores that may have opened 4 years ago...thanks again Ant! you and I make a great DD team.
Outdated...yes...misleading...no...it doesn't matter if those stores closed down today...or if those stores closed down 100 years ago...my post said...and it was said quite clear if I may add...that there would be 15 less stores to carry Winning Colours...the same way your "5" Lowes openings in australia stated 5 potential stores to carry the product...even if you have no idea how long that will take...on topic...thanks and merry christmas to just ur family...
Success is such a wonderful thing. do u smell it? I sure do.
Thanks for proving my point...anything that winning brands does or says...you will twist for it to be positive...In your eyes...WC can only sell well in NY...until it doesn't...
That didn't answer my question. You said if it sells well in NY...then it will sell (anywhere)...I asked you what if it does not sell well?
Does this mean it can't sell everywhere?
What if it doesn't sell well in NY? What will that tell you?
question is...how long will they stay there...
If and when Winning Brands handles the mess with Walmart Canada...17 new stores are waiting to stock the shelves...
Wal-Mart set to unveil up to 17 giant hybrid stores
TORONTO - Wal-Mart Canada Corp. will have up to 17 of its giant hybrid grocery stores open by the end of next year, executives said Tuesday at a preview of a Wal-Mart Supercentre in Stouffville, north of Toronto.
Three of the megastores, which combine a traditional Wal-Mart with an enhanced discount grocery store, have their grand opening in Ontario today, a move which one analyst predicted will have a ''dramatic and cascading effect through Canadian retailing.''
Tuesday's preview of the cavernous big-box outlet made it clear the retailer will threaten more than just grocers such as Loblaw Cos. Ltd. with its new format. With an expanded selection of electronics, hardware, home and housewares, Wal-Mart Supercentre could take a bite out of businesses as diverse as Future Shop, Home Depot, Home Outfitters and Shoppers Drug Mart.
''Our goal is to become the one-stop shop for customers,'' said Mario Pilozzi, chief executive of Wal-Mart Canada, gesturing at palettes of impeccable, unbruised produce.
''You see how fresh that is today? We are going to maintain that freshness in these stores.''
Fresh food is a lightning rod in Canada's grocery war. At Loblaw Cos., the quality of perishables suffered in the past year as the retailer quickly expanded its general merchandise offerings in anticipation of the Supercentre openings.
Wal-Mart has improved on its basic store format by making the new outlets more ''shoppable,'' widening aisles, improving the customer ''sight lines'' with higher ceilings and clear signage, centralizing the pharmacy department, revamping the fashion section and putting cash registers in selected departments such as electronics and clothing.
The retailer has also broadened its pricing spectrum, carrying everything from dollar store-goods to personal computers, iPods, and a $799 RCA flat screen TV. The perfume selection runs the gamut from Shania Twain's fragrance by Stetson to Romance by Ralph Lauren.
The new stores also feature a new marketing ploy in the form of ShopCast, an in-store television network that will be rolled out to the retailer's 280 Canadian locations by the end of the summer. Flat screen TVs suspended from the ceiling by the front cash registers continuously play one of the network's nine channels, featuring fashion shows of Wal-Mart's clothing lines, TV commercials featuring brands the retailer carries and corporate messages.
''We beat any discounter hands down on assortment,'' added Les Mann, vice-president of the food division at Wal-Mart Canada, who spent 10 years at supermarket chain Sobeys Inc. before joining Wal-Mart in 2002. Wal-Mart will also beat the advertised price of any deal offered by a competitor.
Pilozzi said Wal-Mart, which had previously announced it would open seven supercentres in Ontario by early next year, will open another five to 10 of them by the end of next year, depending on municipal approvals.
Analysts say Wal-Mart's Canadian supercentres are more sophisticated than their U.S. counterparts, because strong Canadian grocers, such as Loblaw, have created higher expectations among the average consumer. Canadian neighbourhoods with Wal-Marts are also more ethnically diverse than their U.S. counterparts. Wal-Mart plans to target prominent ethnic communities in the areas it serves with specialty food, entertainment and apparel.