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Why are the mms trying to make this run even tho there are no buyers mostly sellers.
They don't own any bitcoin also they had 5 billion OS. It is now on its way to 10 billion shares not 4 billion. And they make no revenue at all. Get your facts straight.
I can't understand how dull people's minds can be. Who in the world is hitting the ask at .007 when this just hit .0058. You guys do realize .0058 is to high also. We just 8k after 8k all negative and peeps are buying at .007. Kay just said deals will not be finalized until early 2018. Just warned everyone about 6 weeks ago that he will push that date further down the road meaning early 2018 he push down to end of 2018. They have no revenue. The only hope they had (litigation) is disappearing before our eyes. It looks nasty here. Yet some still choose to buy at .007. Wait for it to drop well under .004 than buy. I might buy there also. But im afraid it might go alot lower than that.
If they win the appeal is no longer the question for now. The problem is now we have to wait probably a year even if not a year atleast until spring time and that would be fast. Until than another good five months of not making any money for sfor just like the entire year of 2018. The appeal is not issue right now.
People are not selling because of SA. First we were supposed to have big deals signed back in May and those revs were suppose to hit the books in the second half of this year. Third Q was second half of the year absolutely no revenue not even some retail nothing. Now the year is over three weeks left and nothing materialized as of yet still no revenue for the year. If something would have happened there would have to be an 8k filed nothing. So now when the 10k comes out in April it will show still no revenue for the entire year.
Well now Kay is claiming 1st Q of 2017 we know that is a lia. Cause he already said the deals were done in May that 7 months ago. So these are just carrots tossed to us knowing nothing is happening on that end. Well than I still had hope of something happening with the litigstion part of this pos. But on that end nothing so far except bad news. Entrust is now done nothing from there. Last week trustwave was done still nothing from them either than all the other ones will now wait to see what happens with the appeal in the SA suit. Now im willing to bet we wont settle with duo for atleast 6 months to year. And get some crap thrown at us by duo. This has turned into a nightmare. No way is this ticker worth .0062. I'll start kooking at it again when it hits .004 and we know it is no where near worth that either. So as of now this is only going to continue its decline that is why I sold. Might get back in under .004.
What happened to the very very very positive ride for the end of this year when speaking of pps. Im telling you he did nothing but lia to his loyal investors. That is just deplorable as human to do sonething like that. I mean I was a true loyal investor. Not to mention all the other longs that are still believing his lias. Im just glad I got out with a 700 percent gain. Glta.
Ps. Will be back at .004.
He said they still can't turn a profit. They have to produce a certain amount of revenue to turn a profit. They first must turn in revenue. They haven't produced any revenue this year. First produce some revenue than we can discuss turning a profit. Lol. So yes you are right NOPE.
They might but not entrust and trustwave. I can't understand how peeps tried to spin that into some kind of good news lol. We sued three TCD. For 18 months in litigation with all 3. Now we settled with one we dismissed our case against them we got nothing. Remember they were the ones (singtel) that was supposed to be huge the buyout was to come through them lol. Now they are gone 2 left. How is that not utterly horrible. But to call it good is beyond me. And if we settle with duo and get a lump sum of maybe 20 million are you saying 10 million came because of trustwave lol. How would you possible prove that. Would it not have been better to get 20 million also from trustwave. Peeps not to long ago were calling atleast 30 million from trustwave and lisencing deal. Trust wave is gone nothing. Does that make ropes and gray 43-2 now. I pretty much believe the patent play is done here. And I no longer put any importance on what kay says about huge deals. That is all a bunch of crock. Have to come to the realization that the patents are not all that. My gut tells me only duo is going to pay us something and it won't be much. And that money will pay off the 7.5 million dollars. Than the end of sfor will come. Jmho.
Not necessarily a bonified scam. But I do believe he was scamming investors and using investors to pay himself a hefty salary. While producing nothing as far as revenue for the ticker. It took 1.5 years to realize what they just stated in this 8k. Nothing sounds right about this ticker. He promised big news by end of year. And we didnt get any. But we did get alot of 8k and news that was outright deplorable. 3 down 4 left. Looks like duo will be the only one to pay something that is far from 7. Like many here stated. The fact is these patents arent all that. So now looks like the only hope is big deals
And we know that will never ever happen. That 10k is going to be so bad next year that by May of next year we might see the pps at .001 or below.
Lol...thats funny.
Uhhh yeah...you better pray it is bigger than entrust settlement. We got zero from entrust settlement. That was the worst possible outcome to get zero from entrust and that is what we got. Why is the pps still at .011 right now. Like I said in a previous post even hope for settlements are dwindling now. A pacer update like we found yesterday three months ago would have caused this to go well past .02. Now litraly no movement and coming back down. Not to mention we closed under .01 yesterday so you can forget about the uplisting from pinksheets. Come on I have been patient for years with this one but this is make or break time and its breaking before my eyes. Where is the price action that this should have experienced with a pacer uodate like the one we had yesterday about trustwave.
That is a lia. They are not paying lisence fees for ooba to us. It was a wash that means nothing for us. DONE
A bigger fool is the one claiming sfor is in beast mode. He was off by a day or two no big deal. We are under a cent now have been all day. .008 is inevitable to me.
Also I want to clear something up here. Scott did not give sfor 5 out of 5. He Gid and mobil trust 5 out of 5 stars. As I can recall that belongs to ACS now. Also keep in mind we don't make money with gid or mobil trust two years sells in all retail stores amazon and now hsn and nothing no revenue at all. If we should ever make money with them, that money will go to ACS. FACT NOT OPINION.
I now of certainty...this judge does not like SFOR. But can we truly blame him. If he did any dd on this ticker he quickly found out that this ticker scammed alot of investors.
Think about it. In business for Years never produced anything outside of ram. 2016 and 2017 literaly no revenue. But they get a really good salary for not doing anything but spend. but continuously loose money hundreds of thousands of dollars. And in the last few years did 5 reverse splits. Then the judge looks at this and thinks they have the nerve to sue other companies for doing something they refused to do. So I can assure if the judge could he would love to take away there patent give it to the other companies and order SFOR to stop scamming people or stop doing business. I now if I could legally I would send Kay to prison for the rest of his life. Eveyone will find out in five months when the 10k comes out that they did not make any money at all in 2017. And than in May when 1st 10Q comes out you will see that the first quarter of 2018 will be even worse if possible. The only thing this had going for it was patent infringement. But now it has become pretty clear that the patent is just about worthless. 2 settlements happened both horrible for sfor setting up a nasty presidence I expect no more than 10 million dollars from all 6 together. Maybe 2 million on average from each. And after SFOR will be done.
I hope you guys are excited because you own bitcoin when you say things like boom btc just passed 11,000 mark. Cause if you are excited about that and you dont own btc but shares in this turd. You are only going to be disappointed.
Im telling you that is old news. The new administration is flatout lying to eveyone here. Or there was some mistake.
What is the OS for that ticker?
It's never left sub-penny levels.
Yes but what does that tell you. Monster buying at .0004 and it is still at .0004. Is that not considered bad news. DILUTION.
You do realize that is over 2 years old. They have not done anything in the past 2 years. Also if that was for now that number is not good at all lol. Gorden is no longer ceo of this. 20 bitcoins equals 200 thousand dollars. Bysd would not even see 20 thousand dollars out of that. Those are horrible numbers. But that is 2 years ago anyway. They made zero revenue in the past 2 years. AS is 10 billion nothing but dilution here today.
But even tho this ticker is the biggest turd on the pinksheets. Since it is bitcoin they would be able to run it easily to .01. Just put out some fake pump prs. And stop diluting completely for about 2 weeks. I doubt that is going to happen.
This freaking old crap from 2014/2015. They are not doing anything right now. Those are old filings. I remember it like it was yesterday.
This filing was from 2012. This is not new.
What is this crap this is ancient news. This happened back in 2014 and early 2015. Why are these being stickied. There is absolutely no revenue at all being produced right now. just dilution and the AS increase that happened not to long ago.
How old is this pr...Gordon Johnson is not the ceo of BYSD any more. What is going on here is this like a three year old pr.
Please come back to reality. Also 200,000 dollars and 5 billion OS. You are kidding right.
BYSD is a big nothing. Its been around for thirty years and has not produced a thing in all that time. Just a complete turd.
Lol...no one would buy cold storage bitcoin from a scam company lol. Seriously you would pay 11 thousand dollars for a bitcoin from bysd a company that decieved and diluted shares for years and is currently worth. 0003. Wow.
You mean once zero revenue is confirmed. And huge bloated OS. They dilute every chance they get.
What new revs...this will never make anything.
Wow everyone trying to get out of this turd. That and dilution.
Man I hate this ticker. Bitcoin is exploding into the statosphere and this ticker cant even make it out of trips it closed at .0004. Btc is right now at 10,500 dollars. And this complete turd is at .0004. For the goodness sake give some kind of pr anything a little pump and this turd should sky rocket with this kind of utter bullish rally on bitcoin. Wow is the only word I can think of.
It is at zero right now its at 0.0002. How much more zero do you want it to get
Did the OS go up at all since the last filing for the 2nd quarter.
Btc is flying high not bysd, it never will. Alot of bitcoin stocks are going to be exploding upward but this one. This the highest it might get is .0009 or .001 but probably not. This is by far the worst tickers on the pinksheets.
If you are a true long. More than likely you are still holding so are now at a great loss since april of this year. But you more than likely got your shares like me at .001 or under. So yes by that standard you are still ahead. But the ones who were savvy got out in april with the greatest profits. But only the flippers/traders made the best profits. But if you continue to hold there is now a very strong probability that you will loose no matter what price you bought this ticker.
I personally believe this will not see .02 again atleast not this year. The next run will happen in March/April but it will only see .018 or .02 based on speculation. Than the 10k will come out in mid april and very quickly we will be well under .01. The 10k will reveal how horrific 2017 was for sfor. Than we will drop more when the 1st Q comes out and that one will be even worse especially that it will reveal yet again no revenue and no contracts signed whatsoever. I cannot predict any further because we might get somekind of weak settlement from one of the 6 currently in litigation around july im assuming. But im certain the run will not surpass 2 cents. I saw this as a pure patent play. But now at best as a very weak patent play. SFOR the way I see it is here just to make ACS alot of money while it sinks under huge debt. If sfor ever does get some kind of good settlement via duo maybe. Watch how they will find away to funnel every last cent into ACS accounts. And leave SFOR with huge debt. And about those huge contracts you can forget about it. Those were only carrots and if they ever do get them, those belong to ACS.
In conclusion who are you going to believe me or Kay. For over a year my predictions have been almost 100 percent spot on. For about 6 years Kay's predictions about his own company were 0 percent spot on and 100 percent wrong every single time. One example early in 2016 Kay said 2016 is the year of turnaround he was wrong the 10k proved it. Six months before the 10k came out I emphatically said this was not the year of turnaround I said fact and did not say imo. The 10k came out and proved I was right and Kay was 100 percent wrong. Anyone who still claims that 2016 was the turn around year for sfor belongs in a zoo. Lol glta.
But that is exactly my point it will be no bid. But I know for a fact peeps bought btc from this scam stored offline using there vault 51. And actually paid extra because of the vault. Can you imagine what these fools will do when later on when btc will be worth alot more and they realize what they own is not btc it is somethimg worthless. I mean why would anyone but that vault from a scam. If you buy it like that atkeast use a legit company.
Whoot woot look at her go, she's u runnin now. Lol...man but I really feel bad for any fool who bought bitcoin from from them in there cold storage vault.
Can you imagine paying over 8 thousand dollars per bitcoin and than the extra for the vault. I mean if im going to pay that much for a bitcoin I surely will not be buying it from a clear scam.
Ok I buy a bitcoin stored offline from bysd. I keep it as an investment for 6 yrs. It is now 2023 and bitcoin is trading continously between 250 thousand and 350 thousand dollars. I decide to cash in my investment for usd. I purchased it for right around 9 thousand and now I want to cash it in 290 thousand. Lol lo and behold I find out that what I purchased from bysd was nothing. I paid 9 thousand dollars in 2017 for nothing and now this nothing I thought was btc is trading for 300 thousand dollars. Lol this is the likely senerio with anyone purchasing the vault from this turd.
Why would any moron think of buying btc as an investment from a company that trades for .0001. I mean come on are there people that dumm on this planet.
Wow so far this ooba patent of there's seems to be worthless. Msft 9 million...entrust nothing lol. Out of 8 infringers 2 down 6 to go. Basically nothing from the 2. 6 left I hope the rest don't fall like domino and nothing from all six. It is very possible that the only monetary settlement they will get is from duo. The rest they will not get anything. And it won't be much from duo.
No revenue, no huge deals or small deals alot of carrots. And now the only thing they had going for them, the patent play seems to be pretty much worthless. Who said 8 billion dollar patents have you gone mad. Lol might start looking for an exit strategy to low now.
One question. What did entrust have on us. What were we infringing on from Entrust. Dont understand. Makes sense now why they settled so quick. Keeps getting worse and worse here. They squashed there indifferences. WOW.
Can those who are going to the shareholders meeting. Post on here if you go or went. Tia.
I am a long here and I am not a basher. As an investor i am angry as to why they can't produce any revenue at all. I mean forget about the huge deals Ive heard that for 5 years atleast. But what about retail target office depot bestbuy staples amazon and this year HSN. Where are the revenue from these places. Are you telling me im supposed to believe they have not sold one gid or mobil trust. Seriously last year the 3rd quarter we had 183 thousand dollars in revenue which by no means was good but it was alot more than now and it seemed like we were headed in the right direction but now we know ckearly that last year was not the year of turn around. Since than every single 10Q report was nasty. In my book and according to all the fins this year is going down as SFOR's worst year. Still no turn around (unless you mean for the worse) and absolutely no revenue. They made no money this year literaly. So it safe to say not the year for meaningful revenue.
So now I remained a long hoping for sonething good to come out of all the law suits. So far 2 down and six to go. We got a bad settlement with msft and seems like nothing from Entrust. Are all 6 going to go down the same way. This is or maybe was a patent play. Will there be an 8k out aren't by law supposed to file that.
What was entrust countersuit. Even if they would have won that countersuit. Lets say we would have had to pay them 100 percent in damages lol. 100 percent of zero is still zero. SFOR has never made money so what the were they trying to sue us for lol. My one post for the day.
Can everyone stop with the 8 billion dollar valuation of SFOR. Kay never said any such thing a poster lied on this board that is all that was. As of right now SFOR is literaly worth zero. If someone paid SFOR even a dollar right now, according to there quarterly reports they would be foolish to do so. Now ACS being worth hundreds of millions of dollars that is a whole other topic. Since ACS just settled with entrust and six more coming also probably have huge revenues from big deals they might be worth 8 billion soon but not sfor. There is a reason Kay will not release an 8k with numbers concerning the entrust settlement. I would dare say that r & g even advised them to put out numbers and they will not because it is not in the best interest of the company (ACS). The only reason there is not 8k out is Kay does not want shareholders to know anything about the financials.
In my opinion...Kay is the only enemy to the sfor shareholder not the infringers. Watch what happens after the 10Q is released. He said tremendous revenue in the second half of the year. I said no there will not be. Who was right. I was. This was only a patent play that is why I stayed a long. Im 70 percent now certain that this might no longer be a patent play either. I truly believe we will get settlements with all six and still be trading under a cent. Watch carefuly how this unfolds next year. In my opinion 2018 is going to be the year SFOR gets wiped out. Hope not but just following facts and using logic.
Where is the dismissal that should have happened today. Isnt that in a pacer update. Just wondering