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If anybody thinks there is no legitimate cause for pessimism here, then they have some sort of agenda... No one can be that obtuse.
No offense, but is that optimism based on anything at all? Or just pixie dust?
Continued silence by good old Rich and the boyz... anyone contact the SEC on this yet? Probably be years before the little bogus lawsuit is settled... think they will wait till then to update?
Even the most optimistic must by now despise Rich for his continued refusal to offer his shareholders the least bit of meaningful info... all the while probably continuing to draw a hefty salary... until the company quietly just goes out of business.
GREAT!!
Then TRGD will begin trading soon? The distribution can continue... everything is cool... er... right??
An "important" post...
with zero new info and nothing but pumping spin... and the responses were pretty brutal... nothing to be proud of mud.
Shorts, paid bashers and public disinformation... right. Public disinformation coming from... whom? One can't actually believe that this little site could have any impact on the stock... or that the shorts, if any, would not have bailed out in the recent .40 range?
How about the 'pumpers" who have only wildly optimistic stuff to post while the company refuses to say anything of importance or follow-up to previous "pump" PRs... Or to explain where the money for salaries is coming from...??
Some mistake "bashing" for common sense.
Huge volume and a very small increase in PPS... I would call that a big negative. I wonder if some of the rats (or management) are leaving the ship with the PPS at a decent level?
If they are waiting for a deal to be signed before they release another PR, why didn't they wait until the CME mediation has been adjudicated or finished prior to the weak PR they issued?
It is very simple to say that negotiations are ongoing with Yamana or that Yamana has run for the hills (like Endeavor Silver did)... they did say that nothing else was in the works on a 10Q but that is hardly responsive to the shareholders... money running out, no deals in sight, management refuses to issue any guidance on the main issue, when will drilling be done?
Is there still a mill? What properties are still owned and what, if any, encumbrances are on them?
What is being done to get TRGD re-listed?
Yes, LTS!
And there does not need to be good and bad guys here... but anyone who is not completely dense HAS to be concerned about the REFUSAL to update SH or to have a meeting, or to issue anything but tepid, fact free PRs.
This CME thing and the iron ore was supposed to be a very minor thing, when compared to the GOLD mining we were all hoping for... but the gold mining has not been updated for ages... why?
And why has the distribution been halted with no info? What is the holdup? What keeps the Biscan from updating us??
Something is rotten here... and it is no surprise that some think that Rich must be a crook for all of this silence, delay and the taking of large salaries...
Instead of ragging on the CME guys, Sam, why not get Rich to come clean?
Please post on topic, and no personal attacks on anyone... right?
The PR was another empty loser... they FINALLY address what everyone now knows, with their spin...
They say they are working on a plan for the iron ore that will be released soon... HAH!! How long have they had to come up with a plan for the iron ore?
Francis forgot to update the SH about the Yamana deal, the Adit deal, the stock distribution deal, the delisting of TRGD deal and his excessive salary deal... In other words, this PR is just a delay tactic... OK, the iron ore thing may be on hold, but what about all of the other wonderful potential properties that tara holds?
Even the most ardent fan of Tara cannot find anything in this weak PR to get excited about.
Any of you guys know how to contact the SEC and request an investigation?
Sam, you explain in great detail your take on the CME issues, and of course FH parrots his support...
Yet you totally excuse the complete lack of communication between the company and its shareholders for extreme periods of time... supposedly to protect themselves against the "nefarious" bad guys... CME. Nonsense.
Has Rich talked to YOU about all of this stuff?
Do you really think it is acceptable to black out all updates after positive (pump?) PRs to the same shareholders? They can be sent pump news but no further updates when it all collapses? remember, the CME "deal" is just one thing... so why not update us on the others?
Your blind support of these bone-heads is suspicious at best... you rag on CME yet think the outrageous lack of shareholder information dissemination as just fine.
If information is withheld from shareholders then they should halt all trading on all shares until they DO provide updates. Do you agree??
Agree...
I am hoping that a sale of the properties will at least keep us from a total loss...
No, I do NOT think Rich is close to something, as he has been close to "something" for a long, long time. His refusal to update shareholders on anything is indicative of a scam or a collapse, no of an ongoing negotiation of a deal...
I only hope that if the properties too turn out to be a pump and dump scam that rich and his cabin-boys are all jailed for a good long time.
The hard fact is, that if any of the properties were as good as represented, there would be plenty of companies interested in buying them... if Rich is so arrogant to think he HAS to keep them and be in charge, after proving that he is a major buffoon... well, we are SOL.
When is the shareholder meeting, maybe we can vote to run this bozo out... or is he not willing to announce that either??
No problem.
Maybe you have some idea as to why rich would refuse to update his shareholders on ANY of the many positive PRs outlining deals supposedly made... if you are a Rich fan...
Do you really buy this "Blackout" BS, after all of this time? He did not even update the SH on the CME mess... or the Yamana mess, or the Adit mess... or the Iron ore mess...
If you respect a CEO that REFUSES to update his SH in any meaningful way for many moons, after issuing PRs that clearly pumped the stock, then head on... I am only around as I am stuck with a good chunk or TRGD (turds) that, due to the actions of Rich, I am probably going to get roasted on.
One cannot run a company from under a rock.
Up 25% on a full 100 shares traded...
this one is a stinker, mates!
There is friggin' in the riggin'
PPS down 17%+ on 4000 traded... don't you love the way the MMs absolutely rape people on market orders? reflects some pretty toxic people making the market on this stock, IMO...
Good post, Mike, thanks
Not me, I think this may be a scam and have sold all shares.
I have had PLENTY bad to say about the management of this company.
I don't know the ins and outs of the stuff you are going around with, with Sam, but anyone who does not have a MAJOR issue with the refusal of these doofuses to update shareholders is most likely a pumper or a shill for management, because IMO, it is indicative of incompetence or corruption. The "black out" stuff is total BS.
So as far as I am concerned, you are alright with me.
Today we had a nice 25% pop, until one realizes that some poor schnook got creamed placing a market order and the MMs raped him... on only a lousy 9,000 shares total traded.
I do not have a great deal of hope for my TRGD shares ever trading again, maybe a shareholder suit and a freeze on management's personal assets is in order, get back some of the millions handed out as salary to Rich and his troupe of clowns for accomplishing... nothing.
probably right, but their PRs smell of a pump to me... Ah, well, I am out so why bitch about it, right?
GLTA
Yes, they have been shamelessly pumping this dog for many moons... if they had ANYTHING unique or worthy they would be popping... instead, they slowly sink into the mire.
I dumped this one a few weeks ago... no brag, just fact.
Luck to all!
That argument just does not meet the smell test.
Are you stating that the Yamana deal is close to closing? Has been for a year or more? Maybe the Adit spin-off?? (HAHA!!)
Just what other deals are you referring to that may be very close to closing?
And the rising PPS? Check it out, the sell is at .72, does not look like a bonanza to me... and the volume has been low.
When EVERYTHING has collapsed into dust, then a "Blackout" is a very weak explanation of the management's refusal to update the shareholders in ANY way. As I mentioned before, the many "pumping" PRs issued by this company, NONE of which panned out... should be reason enough for the SEC to do an investigation of the management.
Jeeze this whole thing is REALLY smelly...
One tiny hurdle to get over by the Tara management is full disclosure of the status of ALL previously released PR based "deals" and speculations.
Some may believe with good cause that the refusal to update shareholders reflects a management that is either corrupt or incompetent.
Is it not their responsibility to keep the shareholders advised, you know, part of their millions in salary and bonuses over the last few years??
Without commenting towards a specific poster...
When you read posters allegations that any negative comment about this company or it's extremely questionable management is a scheme to drive the PPS lower... well, that just reflects an extremely low intelligence level... the number of readers here is VERY small, no way they effect the PPS...
When you look at all of the PRs of supposed "deals" it is just ludicrous to represent that there is nothing wrong with keeping the shareholders in the dark even AFTER those deals all collapsed... and, of course, representing that all of the deals were done with companies and or individuals who were incompetent or corrupt in some way.. is absurd. In fact, it is much more appropriate to allege that such PRs, none of which worked out, and the attendant posts singing their praises... are from individuals trying to artificially "pump" the PPS for their own nefarious plans...
As to the great value of the properties... funny how no other companies seem to agree... is there a comprehensive series of legit 43-101s which tell the world just what Tara has in the ground? I wonder why, even for a 50/50 split, all companies do is run the other way... pumpers may use this as an opportunity to allege that there is a huge deposit of uranium right under the massive iron ore deposits... which is why they all fled... ha ha.
Point being, don't rag on other posters... or the investors who ran for the exits... until the Tara management stop making goofy deals that never come to pass, and NEVER admit in PRs what ever happened to those multiple "great" opportunities...
And note: Pointing insulting and unsupported posts at other posters and even the companies that ended up abandoning Tara are off topic and a TOS violation.
deals
Sure, it was SamDan or just magic. PS, stay on topic.
Who are you, some wise clown? Stay on topic, douchema.
new to the board,l but have held this stock for a time...
I too am worried... if they were so leading edge, this thing would be howling...
Starting to smell a little funny, IMHO...
Luck to all...
You are right, Spuds... this here duck has quacked it's last.
It still twitches, but that is just nerves...
You are so right, Sun... Rich would be summarily executed... and rightfully so.
Even cheerleader Sam (who may be a good guy) has to wonder about the ZERO news... what happened to all the great stuff they PR'd in the past? Or... maybe he knows.
Yamana??
Carnegie?? (Try googling this one! (ha ha ha)
Hanlon (will NOT return calls)
Scanlon... who dey?
Iron ore??
What a mess... the rats have run, methinks.
I am going to lose big on this, Rich better pray we do not meet.
hah!! Good one, I guess we better make sure and take our vitamins or we will never last that long...
Would you not think that maybe management should issue a PR to let us all know what is what?
On the other hand, if they are corrupt, or if this whole thing is burning... then I DO understand why they would remain silent... they fear the legal action to come.
Or... are we still under the "blackout" period (ha ha ha)...
Hey, at least revise this page, it gives me a headache to scroll thru all the BS to get to posts on this stock worth 1/10,000 of one cent!
Yeah, I know, it will ZOOM very soon... hopefully prior to the next ice age.
Why not comment to Peeker on the massive pay to the Rich and Bareass of close to $4 million in two years? Pay for screwing up every deal in sight?
Do you think that is justified, or is it typical of a SCAM?
Can sell shares for .70 as I write... looks like this dog is dying.
Oh, Sam, is the distribution going to continue soon??
PPS collapsing, zero support.
Gee, I think that a PR is eminent, don't you, Sam?
All the deals still right on the verge of being signed and everything is peachy... right, Sam?
The share distribution is also right around the corner, and we are on our way to a listing on the AMEX... right, SAM??
Rich better hit the road along with his catamite, Bruce Bareass... the guys with torches are approaching and behind them is the SEC.
They want to know all about the 4 million in salaries and bonuses paid to the "management" (3-4 guys) when absolutely nothing was being accomplished... great for the shareholders (bagholders)... eh?
Give us some more positive spin, Sam
Here is an exerpt: 8/9/11
Under the option, CME can earn an undivided thirty percent (30%) interest by incurring a minimum of $2 million to start-up the existing Don Roman silver/zinc/lead mill and achieve a production rate of 120 tonnes per day within 120 days and incur another $6 million to achieve a production rate of 360 tonnes per day within 12 months. To increase its undivided interest to fifty percent (50%), CME will incur an additional minimum $5 million to achieve and maintain a minimum production rate not to be less than 600 tonnes per day, within twenty-four months. In addition, CME has a ninety day option to incur a minimum of $1 million, from the above investment targets, to earn an undivided fifty percent (50%) interest in Tara's current and future iron ore projects within Mexico. CME will be the operator for all projects and net revenue will be shared equally.
Note that the Carnagie/Hanlon people did NOT exercise the $1 million option on the "easy money" iron ore project... so how likely is it that they would come in with the BIG money?
This dog is dead, IMO.
Even Sam the cheerleader knows the stench is becoming unbearable... What ever happened to the big payment by the engineering company to set the 50/50 agreement? That was the linchpin and it seems to have gone away... did that company bail out and if so WHY??
What happened to the easy money iron ore deposits, you know, just shovel and ship and cash in?? Did that turn out to be a big load of Bull crap too?
Oh, and let me guess, Yamana is going to sign any day now... then, in 2038, the blackout will be lifted... right?
I wonder if Rich has left the country ahead of the SEC investigators?
PS: The CFO is another winner, used to be the janitor, I think... like Bruce Brighteyes or whatever, who used to be the investor relations guy, never answered any questions, and for that was promoted to COO... what a group of sad clowns... anyone want to bet there is potential fraud here? Sure smells like it.
Sam, you need to knock off the crap about the posters not understanding... it is YOU who has your head up your kiester, fella.
The other transfer did not put pressure on the PPS, and a halt in the transfer process, with zero explanation puts more pressure on the PPS than anything else...
And what a load of manure that silence on behalf of Rich the Clown is to NOT mess anything up... BAH!!
You still spout the BS: "A premature dividend at this time wold probably result in a great pressure on TARM share price as TRGD shareholders sell the dividend."
Great pressure? Like more than the 50% hit we have taken recently with no dividend?
Your gab is insulting and foolish. If everything was cool, insiders would be buying like crazy... Does not look like that from here, does it.
With ya, LTS... it is not a neutral for these bone-heads not issuing any updates... it is a HUGE negative.
In the face of a collapsing share price only 2 alternatives seem reasonable:
Everything is going great, Yamana is ready to sign, the new partner is raring to go, the iron ore is on the way for delivery and the money will be rolling in in a matter of days.
Or,
The poop is about to hit the propeller, Yamana has left the building months ago, the new partner will NOT make the big payment and will bail on the entire mess, the iron ore turns out to be uneconomical or lower grade or was mistaken and is actually standard grade sand.
Given the 50% drop in the PPS... which would YOU bet on?
Heat up the tar, gather the feathers, let's find Rich and ask him.
Here is some news for you, Sam, the PPS of TARM is getting the crap kicked out of it, so what the heck do you mean it would put pressure on it...??
What posters here DO understand, is that Rich is a selfish crud, taking big bucks for himself and his pals for salary and nothing is getting done except for the PPS pressure BECAUSE of his refusal to keep the shareholders informed...
Problem is, there is probably a very good reason for no PRs, and that is that everything, and I mean EVERYTHING is probably coming unglued... you think they are still, what, negotiating with Yamana? Nonsense. Even the engineering firm could issue a PR about being excited, here is the plan of action, the payment WILL be made as agreed... but NO... smell a little funny to you, Sam?
Iron ore was supposed to be stupid simple, load it and ship it and get paid... BAH!!
I know U are a insider and a cheerleader, but don't criticize posters here, they have good reason to be royally pissed.
yeah, we are about to take off for the moon!!!
(Ha ha ha)
Agree... Sam is trying to put a positive face on all of this, which is fine... BUT:
What ever happened to the transfer of shares? Do the shareholders (bagholders) not deserve at least an explanation of what the hell is going on? the WHY of this huge delay??
Ditto for the Yamana "deal"??
Silence is indicative of BAD news... not keeping shareholders informed on a reasonably timely basis is BAD news...
This is a PUBLICLY held company, RICH, not your personal cash cow, so puke out the info or resign and get the heck out of the way... your silence leads to speculation that you are a fraud, a liar and a crook.
Are you?
yeah, right... more prospects... so much for the Yamana deal, is 2 years normal? So much for updates on the Carnegie thing... this whole deal is starting to really smell...
Did rich and Co really pay themselves millions in salary? if so, it REALLY looks scammy, Sammy.
This news "blackout" is BS, IMO... an excuse, a sham.
Anybody notice the PPS dropping like Lady Gaga's drawers?