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Agreed Phaedrus! I also admire those who champion the truth like Zizek. Great job Zizek!
A good argument? Uh, NO. That is NOT why Ziz is responding to you. He is responding because you are flat out wrong. Have a read again, and pay attention this time:
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1) You say: Absurd..you are comparing a field test at 200/gal per minute low pSI to a a supposed operation threshold of 1500/gal with so many more untested variables its difficult to even list them all! Primary the changing elevation and aspect of the route along with temperature gradients would warrant all kinds of preliminary investigation. They are nowhere near proving this. Sorry I can't wrap my head around paraffin molecules clumping together for 11 hours as they pressurized through a cold pipe with no diluent and no heat. Remember that's the claim...get rid of energy wasting heating and processing chemicals along with dropping pump KW usage by 50%
This is a really bad argument that I don't think you want to be making. For weeks, you've made the argument that lab tests aren't enough evidence to support commercialization. Yet here, you're more than confident to argue that Tao's lab tests, which you interpret as requiring a new AOT unit every two miles, is superior to the field tests at RMOTC. On what grounds are you going to argue that a lab result is a better indicator than a controlled field test?
Further, you talk about a stack of untested variables. While I agree that it hasn't been through every imaginable gauntlet, it's worth considering why STWA lists AOT as being required somewhere between 30 and 100 miles, depending on conditions. Seeing as they know that it will be less than 1/3 as effective in certain conditions compared to the optimal, we have plenty of reason to believe that they know what they're doing.
Finally, your inability to "wrap your head around paraffin molecules clumping together for 11 hours" doesn't make it untrue. Unless you're arguing that the folks at RMOTC were lying when they produced their report, then the only actual data tells us that it really did take 11 hours for the effects for AOT to fully dissipate. As for your paraffin concerns, the results have been independently verified. You always make pleas for more peer reviewed research, so I'll save you the time.
Reduction of Paraffin Precipitation and Viscosity of Brazilian Crude Oil Exposed to Magnetic Fields
José L. Gonçalves, Antonio J. F. Bombard, Demetrio A. W. Soares, and Glaucia B. Alcantara
Energy & Fuels 2010 24 (5), 3144-3149
Studying the Mechanism of Magnetic Field Influence on Paraffin Crude Oil Viscosity and Wax Deposition Reductions
Nguyen Phuong Tung, Nguyen Van Vuong, Bui Quang Khanh Long, Ngo Quang Vinh, Pham Viet Hung, Institute of Materials Science-Vietnam NCNS; Vu Tam Hue, Petro Vietnam; Le Dinh Hoe, Vietsov Petro
SPE Asia Pacific Oil and Gas Conference and Exhibition, 17-19 April 2001, Jakarta, Indonesia
The Effect of Magnetic Radiation on Pipeline Transportation of Crude Oil
Zhang Weiwei, Zhang Guangyu, Dong Huijuan
"The Effect of Magnetic Radiation on Pipeline Transportation of Crude Oil," Digital Manufacturing and Automation (ICDMA), 2010 International Conference on , vol.2, no., pp.676,678, 18-20 Dec. 2010.
All of these studies agree, yes, paraffin can be treated by magnetic means, and that it's comparatively better than either trying to heat it or use chemicals. Also, as a bonus, you'll notice that "Tao" isn't the author on any of these articles, answering an earlier critique that if the science is true, why isn't anyone else talking about it. Answer? They are.
2) You say: I agree management should show us a cost benefit...why haven't they to date? Would this not be the major selling point that would need to hammered home before the orders start rolling in? I have always maintained that while a lab effect may be observable the actual utility of putting these device in service in the field likely does not offset the cost of doing so.
Because you're not going to be paying somewhere around a few hundred million to buy these units and install them on your pipeline. Plus, your aforementioned discussion of the wide number of variables means that they can't just put together an investor tear sheet that gives the comparative energy savings at a pipeline at an external temperature of 31F at a 2-degree downward slope versus an external temperature of 19F at a 4-degree downward slope.
This goes into the category of "Why are you holding STWA to a standard that other companies don't meet." Certainly they know the answers to these questions, and will give that to the relevant parties. What they do give us is plenty of spreadsheets and graphs that show the energy savings. If the information provided not good enough for an investor, they don't need to invest. For me, this goes into the "good-is-good-enough" category. All of the science backs up the claims they are making, and knowing the minutia of how AOT will perform is secondary to the qualitative statement that "it works, and it will save a lot of energy."
However, the fun part in your answer here is that you again critique the faith we put in lab tests. As I stated in #1, you argue we should trust lab tests which indicate AOT only works every two miles, but not trust the RMOTC when they say it lasts 11 hours, but here we go back to not trusting the lab tests because there isn't enough information there. So should be trust Tao's lab work or not? At least be consistent, because it seems your attempts to negate STWA at every opportunity have you all turned around.
Ziz- I think it's great we held these upper levels. We're forming a nice bull flag on the daily which means we can go higher after absorbing this big move. Anything can happen, but a weekly close is stronger than a daily close. Everything you want to see that is constructive for higher prices. If we get through $1.50 watch out, we can keep going all the way to 1.70. We closed well on a weekly basis, that's what matters. To me anyway. The technicals don't mean much on otc stocks, but from what I've seen, we do respond to support and resistance levels.
Also, we saw some nice buying come in at the close at 1.37, about 50,000 shares. It carried into after hours. Another good sign.
Let's be thankful that we had a great week, and enjoy this long weekend.
Bravo JT! Bravo! As I said, WE are the shareholders here, WE are the ones with the warrants. WE will not be deterred or shaken. WE know what's coming. Period.
Last quarter is sooooo last quarter, lol. and guess who owns those shares??? mmm? ok take a guess, I dare ya...
WE DO! lol. WE are the shareholders :) and as you can see we are not selling.
Others who have warrants for promotions or whatever are severely restricted as to how long they must hold the shares as they are considered either officers or have received the shares as employees.
Plenty of time to give STWA to close a deal. No worries!
Wow Ski, super cool! Can you share some more deets? If not no worries, just curious. Like what does your friend do? Where did he see STWA in Zurich? What kind of function was it?
Thx!
They told me Just having a cash account, but I actually thinks it depends on your broker. To be absolutely sure, I'd simply call your broker up and ask them how you can be assured your shared can't be lent out or borrowed.
The 27M Shares will not be sold: here's why: Almost all of them are held by MANAGEMENT. JT sent me this private message correcting me a few days ago, I forgot to post it:
"Fwiw No one I know is exercising their warrants. There aren't that many still out here in the hands of investors. Maybe 1-3M Max.
The other 20M are restricted which owned by Cecil's & Gregg. In addition they are not even able to buy them yet.
Cecil is a good 1-2 years away from being able to register his warrants. "
Hey Myrka-Perfect! You are all set according to my broker. I would just be careful with that $2.00 sell price, you may actually get that filled. I'm serious. So, if you don't plan to sell your shares there then I would cancel it if we get close obviously. :)
INCREDIBLY STRONG SHAREHOLDER BASE
I agree Floss! One of the tremendous things about this situation is that to a large extent we can all, together, control our destiny with this company. We hold the largest portion shares held besides management, and if we all stick together and don't sell, the shorts can only have a minimal impact.
Just a side note, and with regards to "keeping" your shares from being borrowed, it has been common knowledge that if you simply put a sell order in, no one can borrow your shares to short them. Well, I called my broker -and at least for my broker, that's not true-. They said the only way to keep from having your shares lent out or borrowed, you need to convert your account from a "margin" account to a "cash" account. Then, and only then can you prevent your shares from being borrowed. Just a little info there.
I like your STYLE DicklandMacgruder :)
Temple University is LOYAL to STWA. They have a great relationship. Throughout the years a strong partnership has evolved, Temple is Loyal. So either Temple is simply giving them some time, or, they are renegotiating for a higher rate if Temple is expecting revenues soon, and wants a better rate. Either way, if you were at the shareholders meeting you would know that the relationship with Temple is STRONG, and that they intend to see this through with STWA.
VERY cool JT-wow that's some prediction! Timing and all! We'd better get all the shares we can in case that does happen! I have to say, it would make sense as we know the market knows something's up before anything else, and with all of this buying and share increase something very well could be afoot...:)
May warrants: don't forget guys, I think there are warrants that are due the end of May, so people are probably taking profits to exercise. No Biggie...
I guess you can not read: I said Smith is INTERESTED. I have no idea whether or not it will come to pass. But that's pretty cool eh? That Fox News is interested in talking to our little old company we're invested in, and has proved to this fantastic investment? It's been a fantastic ride, really. Here's what I said initially, and if you can interpret it, it will prove very interesting:
"There is NO swindle here. Sorry sano. The woman on our board is for real and has been in touch with Tobin Smith of Fox news since Christmas. He is interested in meeting the CEO of Save The World Air, Inc. That's it. I don't know how that can be a "swindle." In my opinion, shorter's will go to any length to achieve their aims."
The first commercial AOT has JUST been completed and is finally going to made available to the oil industry. I'm so excited this will save the oil industry BILLIONS. I personally have already quadrupled my investment! Can you believe it? Here's some more info:
STWA has proven the AOT WORKS WITH INCREDIBLE RESULTS; based on all of the actual FORMAL PUBLISHED data by the Federal Government's Department of Energy, or "DOE"; (who ran many tests on the AOT on a pipeline at the Rocky Mountain Oilfield testing center); The PRCI (Pipeline Research Council International-made up of the World's Largest Oil Companies) who, once they came to see the lab tests in person were "sold" so much that they decided to fund the tests of the AOT; and Dr. Tao the head of Temple University's Psychics Department who has written "the book" on the subject, literally. The U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology and PetroChina (CNPC) / China Petroleum Pipeline Bureau (CPP). Each of the studies and tests have independently confirmed the efficacy of AOT for the reduction of crude oil viscosity. Who's word should one take in evaluating the efficacy of the AOT, some random dude on a message board, or the independent official sources I just listed. The choice for myself, and for others, is easy.
In my opinion, the AOT works so well that it cuts through oil (reduces it's viscosity) like a hot knife through butter. And in my opinion, is worth Billions (with a "B") to the oil industry all over the world. The test results speak for themselves; test results of the AOT have yielded an 87% viscosity reduction, and it was on some of the thickest crude oil in the world in China.
It is also my opinion that Save the World Air, Inc. is on the cusp of bringing this valuable technological device known as the AOT (Applied Oil Technology) to the oil industry who from what I can tell, -WANT THIS- (STWA is under 7 NDA's currently) because it will save them Billions. And will therefor, MAKE them BILLIONS. The FIRST Commercial AOT device has JUST been completed and weighs 20 tons. It is finally ready for commercial application and use, and finally available to be put in the hands of the oil industry.
Very true Zizek, just though I'd mention it, as that little bit of craziness at the very end of the day, with like 60 seconds left, and then I check the ihub board to see THAT craziness. Seemed a bit weird to me, but it was a crazy day, so let's chalk it up to that. However the question still remains who our new "friend" is...
There is NO swindle here. Sorry sano. The woman on our board is for real and has been in touch with Tobin Smith of Fox news since Christmas. He is interested in meeting the CEO of Save The World Air, Inc. That's it. I don't know how that can be a "swindle." In my opinion, shorter's will go to any length to achieve their aims.
VERY interesting Floss:
Something else; at the same time that those posts hit ihub, I saw on the L2, simultaneously, sellers try to hit the bid which brought us down to 1.43. Coincidence or something more? Especially with the link you just shared. To me, this is a coordinated effort, no doubt about it. Which means the short squeeze will be so much sweeter.
STWA NOW HAS POSITIVE SHAREHOLDER EQUITY. The company went from negative to positive shareholder equity with now over 4 million dollars in the BANK. Meeting more requirements for up-listing to the Nasdaq.
STWA has proven the AOT WORKS WITH INCREDIBLE RESULTS; based on all of the actual FORMAL PUBLISHED data by the Federal Government's Department of Energy, or "DOE"; (who ran many tests on the AOT on a pipeline at the Rocky Mountain Oilfield testing center); The PRCI (Pipeline Research Council International-made up of the World's Largest Oil Companies) who, once they came to see the lab tests in person were "sold" so much that they decided to fund the tests of the AOT; and Dr. Tao the head of Temple University's Psychics Department who has written "the book" on the subject, literally. The U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology and PetroChina (CNPC) / China Petroleum Pipeline Bureau (CPP). Each of the studies and tests have independently confirmed the efficacy of AOT for the reduction of crude oil viscosity. Who's word should one take in evaluating the efficacy of the AOT, some random dude on a message board, or the independent official sources I just listed. The choice for myself, and for others, is easy.
In my opinion, the AOT works so well that it cuts through oil (reduces it's viscosity) like a hot knife through butter. And in my opinion, is worth Billions (with a "B") to the oil industry all over the world. The test results speak for themselves; test results of the AOT have yielded an 87% viscosity reduction, and it was on some of the thickest crude oil in the world in China.
It is also my opinion that Save the World Air, Inc. is on the cusp of bringing this valuable technological device known as the AOT (Applied Oil Technology) to the oil industry who from what I can tell, -WANT THIS- (STWA is under 7 NDA's currently) because it will save them Billions. And will therefor, MAKE them BILLIONS. The FIRST Commercial AOT device has JUST been completed and weighs 20 tons. It is finally ready for commercial application and use, and finally available to be put in the hands of the oil industry.
a beautiful come back! $1.47 :) I'm sure whoever sold in the 1.30's is regretting it...I'm bummed I missed it, I should have bought more in the 1.30's...
Be strong people, let see where we hold...
Nice Rocketman :)
For those who don't trade stocks often, or have not studied how stocks move:
we could be forming a bull flag here which is a VERY bullish technical indicator, meaning we will go HIGHER. The technicals tend to matter very little with otc stocks, BUT, its helpful to know how stocks trade. Stock expand and consolidate, they never go straight up. One way to consolidate is to go sideways to absorb the big move we just had. This is known as a bull flag. We can go sideways, then break trough a resistance or "pivot point" which in this case would be $1.50. 1.50 is a little bit of a resistance point on the daily chart but not much, if we don't get through it today, then we will soon. A bull flag is formed over a couple to several days, and is the shape of the american flag blowing in the wind. Now, anything can happen, so for us to show some pent up momentum and solid support I'd like to see us hold the $1.40 level. But that's if we pull back. We could just as easily break through 1.50 today, and see $1.60. Just some things to take into consideration. fyi I am an avid student, and I learned all of what I know from www.t3live.com and their courses. But I am a long time buy and hold investor in stwa :)
Scottrade is not accurate for otc tickers. I have scottrade too. Their level 2 doesn't even work for otc tickers.
$1.50
The company just said they are aiming for the NASDAQ. For that you need to get and KEEP a $2.00 share price plus plus plus...
In my opinion, don't sell.
There will be NO dilution, as the company JUST said this in their last press release.
the after hour trades don't mean anything, they are just as ski said, trades that took place during the trading day, called T-1 trades. The price is $1.48...like ski said.
It is my opinion that the AOT WORKS INCREDIBLY; based on all of the actual FORMAL PUBLISHED data by the Federal Government's Department of Energy, or "DOE"; The PRCI (Pipeline Research Council International-made up of the World's Largest Oil Companies) who, once they came to see the lab tests in person were "sold" so much that they decided to fund the tests of the AOT; and Dr. Tao the head of Temple University's Psychics Department who has written "the book" on the subject, literally. The U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology and PetroChina (CNPC) / China Petroleum Pipeline Bureau (CPP). Each of the studies and tests have independently confirmed the efficacy of AOT for the reduction of crude oil viscosity.
It works so well that it cuts through oil (reduces it's viscosity) like a hot knife through butter. And in my opinion, is worth Billions (with a "B") to the oil industry all over the world.
It is also my opinion that Save the World Air, Inc. is on the cusp of bringing this valuable technological device known as the AOT (Applied Oil Technology) to the oil industry who from what I can tell, WANT THIS (STWA is under 7 NDA's currently) because it will save them Billions. And will therefor, MAKE them BILLIONS. The FIRST Commercial AOT device has JUST been completed and weighs 20 tons. It is finally ready for commercial application and use, and finally available to be put in the hands of the oil industry.
It is my opinion that the AOT WORKS INCREDIBLY; based on all of the actual FORMAL PUBLISHED data by the Federal Government's Department of Energy, or "DOE"; The PRCI (Pipeline Research Council International-made up of the World's Largest Oil Companies) who, once they came to see the lab tests in person were "sold" so much that they decided to fund the tests of the AOT; and Dr. Tao the head of Temple University's Psychics Department who has written "the book" on the subject, literally. The U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology and PetroChina (CNPC) / China Petroleum Pipeline Bureau (CPP). Each of the studies and tests have independently confirmed the efficacy of AOT for the reduction of crude oil viscosity.
It works so well that it cuts through oil (reduces it's viscosity) like a hot knife through butter. And in my opinion, is worth Billions (with a "B") to the oil industry all over the world.
It is also my opinion that Save the World Air, Inc. is on the cusp of bringing this valuable technological device known as the AOT (Applied Oil Technology) to the oil industry who from what I can tell, WANT THIS (STWA is under 7 NDA's currently) because it will save them Billions. And will therefor, MAKE them BILLIONS. The FIRST Commercial AOT device has JUST been completed and weighs 20 tons. It is finally ready for commercial application and use, and finally available to be put in the hands of the oil industry.
It is my opinion that the AOT WORKS INCREDIBLY; based on all of the actual FORMAL PUBLISHED data by the Federal Government's Department of Energy, or "DOE"; The PRCI (Pipeline Research Council International-made up of the World's Largest Oil Companies) who, once they came to see the lab tests in person were "sold" so much that they decided to fund the tests of the AOT; and Dr. Tao the head of Temple University's Psychics Department who has written "the book" on the subject, literally. The U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology and PetroChina (CNPC) / China Petroleum Pipeline Bureau (CPP). Each of the studies and tests have independently confirmed the efficacy of AOT for the reduction of crude oil viscosity.
It works so well that it cuts through oil (reduces it's viscosity) like a hot knife through butter. And in my opinion, is worth Billions (with a "B") to the oil industry all over the world.
It is also my opinion that Save the World Air, Inc. is on the cusp of bringing this valuable technological device known as the AOT (Applied Oil Technology) to the oil industry who from what I can tell, WANT THIS (STWA is under 7 NDA's currently) because it will save them Billions. And will therefor, MAKE them BILLIONS. The FIRST Commercial AOT device has JUST been completed and weighs 20 tons. It is finally ready for commercial application and use, and finally available to be put in the hands of the oil industry.
You're right DPS, zero a great buy at $2.00 or even $5.00. $1.40 is a bargian! But it's not going to stay here long, especially since we are so close to up-listing to the Nasdaq. I think we are heading to $2.00 on this run. At $5.00 BIG institutional investors like mutual funds, pension funds, hedge funds can start buying there. Then $10.00 will come quick :)
FOX NEWS? Tobin Smith? Wants to MEET Cecil? Wow!! that is fantastic!!
I agree with Nicote- He is re-negging on his WORD. He said he would stop posting. If he has ANY integrity he will stop posting here.
Great post JT! Bloody great post! You won! woo hoo!
MY pleasure floss! We will ALL keep it coming! and I look forward to all of your future posts. Your rational, articulation, and knowledge is a powerful combination!
It is my opinion that the AOT WORKS INCREDIBLY; based on all of the actual FORMAL PUBLISHED data by the Federal Government's Department of Energy, or "DOE"; The PRCI (Pipeline Research Council International-made up of the World's Largest Oil Companies) who, once they came to see the lab tests in person were "sold" so much that they decided to fund the tests of the AOT; and Dr. Tao the head of Temple University's Psychics Department who has written "the book" on the subject, literally. The U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology and PetroChina (CNPC) / China Petroleum Pipeline Bureau (CPP). Each of the studies and tests have independently confirmed the efficacy of AOT for the reduction of crude oil viscosity.
It works so well that it cuts through oil (reduces it's viscosity) like a hot knife through butter. And in my opinion, is worth Billions (with a "B") to the oil industry all over the world.
It is also my opinion that Save the World Air, Inc. is on the cusp of bringing this valuable technological device known as the AOT (Applied Oil Technology) to the oil industry who from what I can tell, WANT THIS (STWA is under 7 NDA's currently) because it will save them Billions. And will therefor, MAKE them BILLIONS. The FIRST Commercial AOT device has JUST been completed and weighs 20 tons. It is finally ready for commercial application and use, and finally available to be put in the hands of the oil industry.
THE TEST RESULTS ON THE OIL SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. SOME TEST RESULTS OF THE AOT YIELD AN 87% VISCOSITY REDUCTION. The AOT IS validated by the DOE, by publishing the test results in it's research, and online (you can find the link of the DOE's test results on the company's website: www.stwa.com) It IS a validation of the AOT. Yes way. Yes How.
The DOE and the company, exactly like thousands of other companies, like Apple, Inc.'s 10Q for example, must put disclosures in it's statements to protect them selves legally. That's how you get that disclosure by the DOE, and the company in it's 10Q.
The definition of commercial viability, (as we have gone over several times on this message board with you, yet you continue to repeat your statements & questions over and over) is:
commercial viability
noun [U] COMMERCE
Definition
› the ability of a business, product, or service to compete effectively and to make a profit:
"Wind power owes some of its rising commercial viability to government support."
It's true, STWA's ability to compete and make a profit is unknown because that is what they are working on right now. They JUST finished the FIRST commercial version of the AOT a couple days ago. And they are working darn quick if you ask me. But it is my belief, and the belief of the majority of the people on here that STWA is on the CUSP of bringing this technology to the world's oil industry.
It is my opinion that the AOT WORKS INCREDIBLY; based on all of the actual FORMAL PUBLISHED data by the Federal Government's Department of Energy, or "DOE"; The PRCI (Pipeline Research Council International-made up of the World's Largest Oil Companies) who, once they came to see the lab tests in person were "sold" so much that they decided to fund the tests of the AOT; and Dr. Tao the head of Temple University's Psychics Department who has written "the book" on the subject, literally. The U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology and PetroChina (CNPC) / China Petroleum Pipeline Bureau (CPP). Each of the studies and tests have independently confirmed the efficacy of AOT for the reduction of crude oil viscosity.
It works so well that it cuts through oil (reduces it's viscosity) like a hot knife through butter. And in my opinion, is worth Billions (with a "B") to the oil industry all over the world.
It is also my opinion that Save the World Air, Inc. is on the cusp of bringing this valuable technological device known as the AOT (Applied Oil Technology) to the oil industry who from what I can tell, WANT THIS (STWA is under 7 NDA's currently) because it will save them Billions. And will therefor, MAKE them BILLIONS. The FIRST Commercial AOT device has JUST been completed and weighs 20 tons. It is finally ready for commercial application and use, and finally available to be put in the hands of the oil industry.
It is my opinion that the AOT WORKS INCREDIBLY; based on all of the actual FORMAL PUBLISHED data by the Federal Government's Department of Energy, or "DOE"; The PRCI (Pipeline Research Council International-made up of the World's Largest Oil Companies) who, once they came to see the lab tests in person were "sold" so much that they decided to fund the tests of the AOT; and Dr. Tao the head of Temple University's Psychics Department who has written "the book" on the subject, literally. It works so well that it cuts through oil (reduces it's viscosity) like a hot knife through butter. And in my opinion, is worth Billions (with a "B") to the oil industry all over the world.
It is also my opinion that Save the World Air, Inc. is on the cusp of bringing this valuable technological device known as the AOT (Applied Oil Technology) to the oil industry who from what I can tell, WANT THIS (STWA is under 7 NDA's currently) because it will save them Billions. And will therefor, MAKE them BILLIONS. The FIRST Commercial AOT device has JUST been completed and weighs 20 tons. It is finally ready for commercial application and use, and finally available to be put in the hands of the oil industry.