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GreenBackClub, well, to answer your question, you did state pursuing these companies would take time. And my point in my previous posts, was that the reason for VPLM contacting these companies that are said to be infringing, is mostly for the benefit of the acquiring company, than for their benefit of directly collecting.
So apparently, it seems your not, as well as a few others, understanding the reason for that last PR.
Simply put, in order for an acquiring company to have the legal right to pursue infringers retroactively, they (infringing companies) need to be notified prior to anyone buying VPLM. Otherwise, the acquiring company, can only pursue infringers GOING FORWARD! AND NOT RETROACTIVELY a number of years. Hope that explains everything.
IMHO, if nothing happens by the second week in November, then it's 2015. That's only a few weeks away. We're looking at a March/April close at best.
I hope I'm wrong but, I doubt it.
Greenbackclub...as I have stated in my recent posts (please re-read). Those letters (phone calls, whatever or however, they were contacted) of infringement went out, "FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE ACQUIRING COMPANY". Notice of infringement needed to be presented, SO WHOMEVER acquires the company, the legal right to go after (retroactively) the companies that are infringing on their patents!!!!! Are you understanding this?
And finally, little confused on why there seems to be such a big deal, if a few insiders cash in some shares. It's nothing compared to the multiple millions they own. Did you ever think, maybe they need some money to pay some bills.
Nomorerollbacks and TooBigtofail; You both may want to re-read my post. Those letters went out for the benefit of the acquiring company, more so than for VPLM.
Or those letters of notification that went out, had nothing to do with VPLM actually getting paid from each company. Maybe they went out so it would legally enable the acquiring company the ability to (retroactively) pursue infringing companies, after the acquisition.
BeerlsGood....I originally got in after reading that article about Voip-Pal.com being two years ahead of Microsoft's patent request. That's all I needed to know. If they paid $ 8.4 billion for Skype and LI, is needed for skyping, what more did I need to know?......not too many penny stock companies, have an opportunity like this one. Incredible to say the least.
All the rest, interest from Fortune 500 companies in acquiring VPLM, as well as the remaining patents (RBR, etc) came after I invested at $ .008. I've added a number of times on dips. This company has taken on a life of its own, since then.
It's just a matter of time and for how much. Maybe only $ .50, $ 1.00, who really knows. But, there's value here. It's scary what the potential outcome can be.
If this turns into a scam, which I seriously doubt, Malik, Sawyer and the rest should go to Hollywood and pick up their Academy award. IMHO
I got in December 2012 @ DOUBLE ZERO EIGHT! And have added and added along the way. The patents are real and so is the opportunity to get a few dollars per share price for the company. And you have to realize most didn't get in at the bottom AND it's killing them. It's obvious when you read some of the post on here.
It's just a matter of when and how much the company sells for. It's only going to get better and better. Probably if nothing occurs within this month, it'll happen well after the first of the year. IMHO
I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it. I'd like to see it sold asap,
Well I believe my response with the BOD, pretty much answered it. No I wouldn't say miracles, just a lot of hard work, especially by the fore mentioned BOD. Which I am sure MS, wasn't aware of. And yes, I believe most would agree.
Well, I believe it was either Sawyer or Tucker who mentioned a number of different Goliaths, didn't you listen? If that doesn't answer your Goliath question, not sure what will. The next thing your going to disagree with, is the validity of the government patent office. There's no disagreeing with this, the patents are real.
Still confused on what you don't seem to understand?
I believe it was you who original said MS, wasn't too keen on LI. I was just repeating with maybe not but, others might be with the RBR. And how do you not know they're not interested? They went through the patent process, only to be denied!
Based on a number of your other responses, you seem to want to argue.
I'm in huge at $ .008 and millions total. And I based my initial purchase on the article about VPLM being two years ahead of Microsoft on filing the patent.
In closing, I mean really, if you listened to the conference call (s) and you can't hear it in their voices how real this is, well then, that's a you problem, not a me problem.
Does this make much sense? How about the BOD's? Makes pretty much good sense to me! I'm sure most would agree!
And Goliath, is no speculation! You read the PR's and I'm sure listened to the conference call? Correct? You know, the one (s) I recommended! Then what is it about Goliath, that is speculative to you? Names were mentioned, didn't you hear them? Malik came right out and stated, he's not taking anything under a dollar +. Couldn't you hear between the lines?
"I don't see this auction (action) as stand in line". Not sure where the first comes first serve means. Uh, does anyone?
"If they wanted, they could have easily have bought this from VPLM". Who? Oh, you mean one of the ones, standing in line? Oh, if it were so easy, they would have purchased it by now. Whomever they are? Oh, one of the ones standing in line.
Oh and lastly, Microsoft may not think LI, is all that important BUT, I bet others (you know, the other Goliath's) think the RBR, is worth Billions!!!! That's with a B.
It's simple, because they dont want to pay $ 5 billion for the whole company! Not too hard to comprehend. They didn't think such a small company had the know how to carry this venture as far as they have.
Stay tune, Golioth is about to fall! And it might not be Microsoft. If they're lucky, they may have the opportunity to purchase VPLM.
Their standing in line, like the rest of them.
Well, it really seems apparent that the BOD aren't receiving the offers they were expecting. Yesterday's PR, according to a business consultant, seems like an act of desperation. Another ploy, like the Austrialian broker, to put pressure on companies to get a bidding war going. Or, at least to get some offers! IMHO
We're still a long way off, it clearly appears! 2015, is only three months away.
I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it!
PS, oh and NYT, I was referring to investors not companys!
Nice PR, NOW they need some national exposure!! The time has come for getting the word out......but, oh no, that would be like a pump and dump, mercy mercy me, we wouldn't want them to promote their company, now would we?
They need to take full advantage of this ASAP, IMHO
No, my famous last words will be, "I'm a Deca-Millionaire".
Patience my friend (s)', patience. Those that missed the opportunity when the PPS was under a penny, didn't have the foresight to see the potential. This stock has taken on a life of its own. It hasn't performed like s typical penny stock. Sure it's risen drastically last year but, there's been no considerable movement since. This stock hasn't yet, shown the potential of where the PPS can go. Not even close.
The largest shareholder blatantly stated that this is a minimum $ 1.20-1.50 share price, at today's value. What are his expectations when either a deal is struck or monetized?
Looks like just another buying opportunity. It's like taking candy from a baby. IMHO. What a country!
The recent signing of SouthBank Capital, is just another ploy in the negotiations to monetize and or sell the company. IMHO. The need to create ergencey is what needs to happen to get more offers.
What lawsuit? There's NO lawsuit, any with merit to it.
You may want to reread my previous post. That PR, was nothing short of confidence that the BOD and negoiatatiins are REAL!
It's only a matter of time and for how much!
Yesterday's law firm PR, was nothing more than a vote of confidence for all the shareholders, that this is REAL!!! No law firm would go to this extent to do that, if they didn't feel anything wasn't true. IMHO
It's just a matter of when and how much? Malik basically stated, that the present value should be at least eight times the current price. The present value, what more do you need to hear. And yet, the PPS, remains where it is! It just blows my mind.
Accumulation, accumulation, I say!!!
Well, has anyone had a chance to call them, just to ask them what's this all about. The Law firm, that is. I'm on the road and don't have the time. IMHO I don't believe it's anything to worry about.
Nothing for nothing, but aren't you all exhausted?
Nothing's going to happen for a while (IMHO) so my advise is to relax and have a nice holiday season!
Hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it. Lol
There are SEVEN BILLION CELL PHONE SUBSCRIBERS WORLDWIDE! You can do the math!
Yeah but wait until they dilute in a few week when they issued and increase the authorized to 400 million. Timberrrrrrr
I'm waiting for $ .12-.13 to buy in.
First and foremost, I'd like to thank Rich Inza, Investors Relations, for the tremendous job he did yesterday on the conference call. Extremely professional and had management answer a lot of questions. They finally were transparent in projecting the value of the company. Although, they couldn't be more precise, they definitely made it clear, that the company's worth well over a billion dollars. Especially with the formula they used.
They addressed the share structure. Even with a 500,000 share per month burn rate, it doesn't seem like additional shares over and above the authorized will be issued. Someone even mentioned possibly recovering 100 millions shares. Probably retiring shares. But, I wouldn't count on it. IMHO
Even a dividend was mentioned, if a licensing agreement is finalized and expenses are covered, that is.
This conference call was long over due. They should of listened to me a long time ago.
Malik, definitely made it clear, that he's looking out for the best interest of the shareholders.
One of the most important questions that needs to be addressed, beside the previous mentioned ones, is SHARE STRUCTURE???? IMHO Or do we need to wait for a PR for them to answer this?
Also, please no use of speaker phones. Last time, it was hard to understand a word Malik was saying! Just a thought!
Oh, and I just received a text thanking me for recommending this conference call and the questions I suggested.
Being the only one to change my projection to a 2015 closing date for a buyout, since everyone else had the end of last year and this year. I hope I'm wrong but, I seriously doubt it. Trust me, I want this over ASAP. But, we're into September and the next few months will go by before you know it. And if an agreement isn't received in the next six to seven weeks, the closing won't happen until 2015! IMHO
In regards to the 911 patent, I believe I left out "dropped" 911 calls can be traced back to the location. Maybe they'll explain more int the Conference call (that I have been suggesting since last year.). Or you can call the IR guy, who maybe able to explain better.
The time has come and a few important questions need to be answered. And to tell your shareholders that the company they invested in, is worth what someone is willing to pay them, is unacceptable! That's a lame excuse, to say the least. If they're in the process of monetizing, then what are the projected revenues, etc. It's gone on way too long now to avoid these questions. No more excuses! There're ways to answer these questions, without violating any NDA. Time to be more transparent.
How about, "Based on this and that, we wouldn't consider anything under a few billion dollars." Something, it's been over two months since the offer has been on the table and no word. This is beyond ridiculous. They waited until after the two weeks was up to put out a PR. Then what happened, the PPS tanked that Friday, only to fall further the following week.
Hopefully, in the end, it won't matter anyway.
The 911 patent can save lives. It traces 911 calls back to the location where the call was made. So, in case of a dire emergency, one where a life is in danger, yes it could and would save lives. Pretty simple, if you ask me.
As for Goliath, well obviously this was being referred to one of the Fortune 500 companies, that is infringing on their patents. The time will come when one of them will either purchase or license their patents. Why was it removed, who knows and who cares, it insignificant, really! There are a few Goliath's out there. I'm sure most would agree.
I am always glad to help and be a mentor to a few.
Your welcome for the conference call (both of them) and especially some of the questions that will be answered.
NYT....I believe I was more referring to acknowledging the value of the patent (s) and being so secretive about what everyone on this board has been trying to figure out; What is the company worth". Not so much, that it takes time, remember I pushed back my closing date to 2015. It's the guessing and anticipation of how these patents will be implemented to generate revenue,
The time has come (and I am sure most would agree) if they're going to monetize, then what are the projected revenues, for the remaining of 2014 and going forward. And it's nonsense that they can't tell us! I'm not buying that, nor should anyone else. This is what ever public company does. They project revenue,etc. And to tell your shareholders that it's worth what anyone is willing to pay them, is ridiculous, to say the least.. Insulting and disrespectful. It's as stupid as telling your shareholders, they don't care about the share price. Be real. No shareholder wants to hear that.
They're ways to answer the question, trust me.
Give us something and most of all, give us respect. And to side with some of the bashers on this board, I can understand where your coming from. But, I do have faith is what they have and believe there is tremendous value here.
Tuesday's conference call is their time to shine. Let's see if they can step up to the plate and give us what we all want to hear. And, I am sure most would agree. IMHO
Naaaahhhhhh, I'm not buying it. Never have and never will. Don't see any posts from you suggesting one and I just got off the phone with someone and was told I was the only one suggesting a conference call. Fact, End of Story! PERIOD! There is nothing else to be said, when everything has been said and done. Your welcome!
So for those that aren't interested in conference call, then don't listen to it.
And IBird33, to answer your question, yes, yes I do. Because apparently these is one next week. Imagine that.
Now, would you like to discuss share structure? I was one of the only ones complaining about this.
There's an old saying; The squeaky wheel gets oiled.
Well, I doubt that. Unless you spoke directly to the guy who speaks directly to the BOD's and suggested a conference call last year and got a response back, that he'll suggest it. Which I doubt you did. And unless you meet in person with a guy who speaks directly to the. BOD's, and recommended another conference call recently? Which I doubt, you did. No you and your friend are welcome. I don't see that anyone else, including you, suggesting a conference call on this board, now do you? When I had suggested this last year, I got blasted on this board that they didn't need to have one. Only one person agreed with me. PERIOD!
Now, if you look at that list of predictions, I was the only one recently that had 2015. Not you. And if someone has access to it, maybe we can see your original prediction. Yes, I had said last year, when everyone thought it was going to happen by year end 2013, I said we were going into 2014. And of course most argued. Well, then I said a long time ago mid 2014 but, changed my mind. Seeing how it was dragging on. So, 2015 looks more likely, but I hope I'm wrong. I hope they announce a big licensing agreement and the stock pops to a dollar. I'll sell, make millions and buy it back on a pull back. Which always happens with this stock, after it pops up.
I'm in BIG at DOUBLE ZERO EIGHT. What are you in at? Lol
All I had to read was the article on VPLM being two years ahead of Microsoft. I was sold. It's taken on a life of its own by now. I wasn't even aware of the RBR, etc.
But, when it does, TIMBERRRRRRRR. Mid-teens.
Doubt it CEO, you had no interest in a conference call. I was the only one with a 2015 acquisition date and I hope I'm wrong. I certainly don't need any help from you. I'm in at $ .008. Lol.
This is more than likely a licensing agreement then an acquisition. I hope I'm wrong and it's an outright buyout. It'll be real hard to stomach millions of dollars moving up and down in my brokerage account. Lol.
Probably because they'll be increasing the authorized shares from 250,000 to 400,000 September 24th. Then obviously the outstanding will be increased as well, DILUTION is the major player in penny stocks..it'll probably knock the PPS down to the mid teens. IMHO
More than likely a press release will precede the Conference Call. If not, then we're not even close to any deal being done. A licensing agreement should be the minimum news we receive. You would think.
FYI, I was the only one that stated 2015, now your saying a year later? Lol. Everyone including you had this done already.
As for the conference call, it has nothing to do with a pump. Why everyone thinks promoting a company's value, etc., is a pump and dump, is laughable. Everyday of the week, a company is on Mad Money, promoting their company. This is what they do.
Your all welcome for the conference call.
Your WELCOME, to all those that disagreed with me on having a Conference Call. I will assume you will not be listening in on Sept. 9th, since you felt we weren't in need of one? I was the ONLY ONE suggesting we have one.
We're a long way off from any acquisition! IMHO. It's obvious that they're not getting the value they expected for the company. So, they'll probably go the monetizing route, which will enhance the eventual buyout price. The question is, what additional dilution will be needed, to do so. (Again, please refer to the question I raised on the point of no return.)
The PPS will fluctuate to the point of turning your stomach, not knowing to either sell or hold on for the buyout. Thus, leaving opportunities to capitalize on profits and reinvest on a pull back. Which it has done over and over and over again since we were at a penny. This stock has always moved up and down over and over again after good news. Thinking it will continue to rise, only to pull back. Trading this stock maybe the best way to go, until an acquisition is completed. Knowing the time frame of a completed deal is the biggest question. IMHO
And again, your welcome!
Well, you may want to re-read them again. They're more than likely going to do a licensing agreement prior to an acquisition. This will enhance their value. There're not selling anytime soon. IMHO Hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
lbird33.... You may want to re-read their press releases. They're trying to monetize their patents, and sell the company. Apparently they're not getting offers to their likely, therefore generating some revenue will be the most likely choice that this time. Which will only enhance their acquisition price.
We're a long way off for any buyout at this time. 2015, IMHO . We're about into September, then October and if nothing by then, we slid into January real fast.
My prediction of a 2015 acquisition is more than likely going to happen. We're a longgggg way off.
Well, a lower price is much better than a Reverse Split! Which has been my biggest fear from day one. And you know what comes after that, don't you? Yeah that's right....DILUTION! But, that won't bother just a few, as they'll hand themselves more shares, leaving us longs out. Something to digest on this beautiful Friday morning.
So most of us, including myself, need to stop with the fantasy of getting $2.00-5.00 times what we're holding now. Hopefully, I am wrong but, I have a gut feeling. We may get the $5.00 a share but probably at ten times less the shares we currently hold.
If in fact they're debt free, then they won't have to do a split. Or if they do, they NEED to be firm on no further dilution. And state that when or if it occurs. Which they probably won't, unfortunately. IMHO
Anything said regarding the long anticipated buyout price is pure speculation. When you look at what some of these patents actually do, it's mind boggling to say the least. They're telling us, that every single VoIP call is using their RBR patent. This is incredible! Who has the RBR patent for landlines? Don't you think they now want the RBR for VoIP? There are over 8 billion cell phones in the world. It's scary if you do the math.
Now, when everyone sees what other companies recently sold for; SourceFire, WhatsApp and what SnapChap turned down. You start to think that VoIP-Pal.com, is or should be right in the same range.
I'd rather be realistic to the actual value it will sell for, than be extremely disappointed if they don't get $ 3 Billion plus. Realistically I feel it is $ 1 to $ 2 Billion and more likely $1.5 Billion.
But, like I have stated a number of times, it's all relative to the share structure. It could sell for $ 3 billion with 3 billion outstanding or $1 Billion with only 1 billion outstanding. It ALL EQUALS a dollar a share!
And if they issue themselves additional shares, they make out better in the long run.
IMHO
Laberry....what I mean by the point of no return, is simple. Please refer to post # 19589 and see the example of the same PPS, when you have a buyout price of $ 3.3 billion with a billion outstanding as you would with a 1billion buyout with only 300 million. Now I know, I know, I know, this was used for that and it was used for that. Yeah yeah.
Now, for an example, let's say they issue more shares and now it's at 1.2 billion and get $ 4.3 billion. This is $ 3.58 pps. But, if the outstanding remains at 1 billion, well now the pps is $ 4.30!!!!! (And yes, I realize $ 3.58, is still a little higher than if sold for a billion less.)
But what the heck, if they're going to give themselves more shares, they will offset their dilution. Now, that's fair?
Where is the dimension return? Where do you stop issuing more shares for the benefit of the shareholders and the rate of return is the same?
Now what is gained by asking others? Well, when or if you have talked to others about VPLM. Most if not all will agree with what I'm saying. This includes transparency, or lack there of and the dilution factor.
Hope this helps?
Now, CEO, don't agree and never will. Not all those shares were for Dignafonica.
Nah, doubt it. My shares are VPLM shares, my explanation on the "point of no return", is pretty much valid. When does the amount of further dilution diminishing the value of a buyout price?
Please refer to my prior posts on the explanation of the numbers. Pretty simple. If a select few receive more shares and the others don't, is this fair? They maybe getting a higher buyout price but the additional shares might offset the value for the other shareholders.
It's all relevant! Yeah, higher buyout, more dilution, may equal the same, with a lower buyout and less shares.
Where is the point of now return for us shareholders?
No CEO, it holds a lot of water. I am a VPLM shareholder, TRIPLE DILUTED! 306 million to 985 million. My point is valid. There's a diminishing return here. Where is the point of no return? If certain individuals are going to be getting more shares and the existing shareholders aren't. Then they benefit more on a higher buyout price than the others. My example is pretty clear. It's all relative. There is no IMHO, it's fact.
I'll acknowledge and give total accolades to the management and the Board of Directors. I strongly believe that these patents are extremely valuable. Scary to think what the value could be worth. But, I will have to say this, I do understand where some of the ones that are bashing this company come from. Penny stocks are a different breed, to say the least. And the major flaw this one has, is transparency. (Goggle the word, Transparent). IMHO
I have suggested before, to ask a third party. Maybe someone that you have told about VPLM. Ones that have or haven't purchased shares. And see what their feelings are about the lack of updates and information that is given us. It's been about a year since we last had a conference call. Over 45- days since the PR on the offer, and no news. They'll all agree on this. Sure, I do understand that they might not be able to elaborate more, but this is still a public company and shareholders deserve to hear something. IMHO.