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Estimated numbers of new cancer cases and deaths in 2019 (In 2019, there will be an estimated 1,762,450 new cancer cases diagnosed and 606,880 cancer deaths in the United States.)
Fantastic, I hope it's the go too therapy.
That is one of the biggest differences. The GSE'S were treated like the bass-terd redheaded step child. No offense to redheads!
Trunmonk, devil is in the details.....AND the courts.
There ya go! Fantastic
Nooo problem. Keep up the good info.
Absolutely guido.
For those saying Citi bankruptcy is same as GSE's...just pick a simple yes or no answer to see how (dis) similar.
Citi was in conservatorship for 12 years. yes....no
Citi had its net worth swept after being in conservatorship for 4/5 years. yes...no
Citi backed trillions of mortgages before and now. yes....no
Citi's final solution was okay'd by a Dem congress who is vehement about letting a bunch of hedge funds profit (hedge funds own most pref's). yes....no
Citi's BOD was personally booted by Obama admin, (Paulson, Geithner, Bernanke). yes....no
Citi had as many court cases as the GSE's. yes....no
Citi's conservator was found to be unconstitutional by a group of Enbanc judges. yes....no
Citi supports 15/20% of our economy. yes...no
Citi was allowed to recap. yes.....no
Citi had senators on broadcast TV telling people to short the stock.
yes....no
I could go on and I encourage others to point out differences so we don't have to hear anymore apples to oranges comparisons aka. Fruit salad BS
Nice and concise post.
Agree.
Fact is we're all in the same boat yet preferred holders have some idea they will get a conversion, when the reality is everyone will need to ride their investments through this and let the dice fall where they may.
But the government can still say no dividends to both pref's and commons after release, yet this would cap the upside of pref's way more then common.
It has been reported on much that if government screws the common that their wanting to re-ipo or sell more shares would not work do to trust in the government and future. Also, no investors want in on a stock that government controls 79% after release.
If they offer shares (Re ipo) and withhold a dividend on commons, that would not work out for them, so I beleive to reinstate a common dividend that pref's will be given some deal at par or lower so that new pref's with lower dividend payments can replace the old.
the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992 warned all investors in Freddie securities, including investors in shares of preferred stock, that they “not be construed” in thinking that the GSEs would “honor, reimburse, or otherwise guarantee any of their obligations or liabilities.”
the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992 warned all investors in Freddie securities, including investors in shares of preferred stock, that they “not be construed” in thinking that the GSEs would “honor, reimburse, or otherwise guarantee any of their obligations or liabilities.”
Agree, 10-1 reverse split on prefferred's b4 switching them to commons and issuing new lower interest bearing pref's
I personally believe Trump, SM, MC are waiting on courts to rule on purpose. It is their cover to do what they have planned so Dems can not attack, attack, attack.
BUT....they could end up not liking the rulings much, even if it does provide cover. I think what is going on with the Trump administration and courts is who will blink first.
Courts are wanting the current administration to fix past administration's wrongs, but Trump is very worried about it being a black star on his tenure, so he wants courts to expose I think. Maybe even as far as exposing those presidential privileged docs? Let's hope so.
Sen Kennedy calling out Pelosi and Democrats for loading up the virus rescue bill with a ton of nonsensical pork.
Quote: government was founded by geniuses....but now being run by idiots.
Never in the history of our country has this been truer.
JMHO
If government does this take over crap, we are golden then, because we will add many shareholders (taxpayers)to the GSE cause. Government will bankrupt the country fighting law suits.
Just them mentioning taking equity positions in companies is putting CEO's off, so you can bet more folks who are wise to the GSE coup than what we think.
E X A C T L Y !!!
It's illegal if the companies do not need or want it. The BOD at GSE's were having their heads slammed on the floor based on Paulson admitting and Sweeny's take. So yeah illegal for government to strong arm any company right now to take mafia style loan contract. See Boeing CEO
For sure!
Sooooo, what does "preserve and conserve" mean, as stated in Hera?
Pick one:
-Take every last cent.
-Do what's only necessary to make pref's whole, because they are
the company, and no other investor matters.
-let the companies pay the government for 12 years ad infinium, no
chance of release.
-Government is preserving and conserving a taxpayer company,
commons and pref's do not matter.
-fhfa and treasury can do whatever they want, courts are just for
show.
Do these seem laughable? Most of your arguments, in varying obtuse obfuscated ways support most of these.
Just say'n
Best idea I've heard in awhile.
Isn't it pretty hilarious how you heard something about once a month about the GSE's, and now there's articles daily about THE GSE'S BAILING OUT TAXPAYERS AND GOVERNMENT.,,lol
This whole epidemic response by government is super ironic and hypocritical for our government...business as usual
Yep, agree. I experienced similar things in 2008/2009 with Co workers.
Yeah,,I guess that's why like what.....10 cases are on going. All the sudden their just gonna disapear. Someone is kidding themselves. Lmao
Good....we need new news sources. Pretty sad when everyone has to revert to foreign news because we have so few news places here being accurate. I beleive in freedom of the press as it pertains to fact reporting, but all this opinionated, politically twisted stuff needs to go. Supreme court needs to deeply define "libelous"
I think more people realize about the GSE's than we think.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/why-businesses-might-walk-away-from-trumps-coronavirus-aid-if-strings-are-attached-201249067.html
This is true. My thoughts also. There will also be pent up demand later.
I've been in MPW medical hospitals reit for about 3 years, and it was performing nicely over the past year up until this market mess. Pays nice dividend. I might buy more today
Thanks for the links!
Yep, me also
I realize Sweeny is not 5th circuit. I was just saying it should have all been compiled and resolved then.
12 more years of solitary,,probably. But- hopefully a prick constitutional law judge who is in a hurry to make a name for himself takes over. That would be good for us.
I beleive Sweeny went on record a long time ago saying she would give government all the time they needed to convince her, but when the time came, and she was not convinced, that that would be it.
She is trying to be thorough, but admittedly I also think that this is too dam slow. This should have been resolved after 5th circuit
My thoughts exactly....
pka1639. I'm there with ya bro. Stand strong and beleive in the fight for right.
Hello! economic disaster is knocking at the door? They're talking possible 20% unemployment and foreclosures coming out of this. Calabria and the rest of government are like Nero.
Aren't they putting the horse before the cart now? We're really in a severe market down turn that could very well become a severe economic downturn fast. They needed this rule yesterday! For all reasons it was supposed to be in place BEFORE this current crisis.
Government never late but always later.
That there's some azz kick'n logic and ano-lization.
Keep up the dam good work and thanks so much.
Just mail out to filers of last year based on the yearly gross, no additions or subtractions. Say anyone who filed making 70k or lower gets check.
The more I think about those documents and the executive privilege tied to them, the more I think they show intentional market manipulation, and is why government does not want them in the daylight. It could very well impact the market very negatively if it was shown that our government can manipulate as they've been suspected to do. Who would have faith to invest then? Mom and pop investors would go back to mattress stuffing.
Giving loads of Commons does nothing for an ipo or enticing investors either. Pagliara is correct, there needs to be a settlement everyone buys into and not lopsided favoring any share class. If any "extra" favoritism is required, let the courts determine that.
Send that to Mnuchin, Calabria and Trump.
CC the media. Lol