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"I deal with about 5 companies on the current list. I plan to start contacting them intentionally using Go800 and letting them know that I am doing it."
Stockpositive,
I am awaiting a reply from GOIG on the question below. Do you have any thoughts on this?
"Our proprietary technology, what claims if any can we make regarding connectivity speeds and routing compared to 800 phone calls?
In other words two people side by side and at the same time, one texts the same 800 phone number, or same toll number, that the other person calls.
Would we see a difference in either the response time or the routing of the call? I need to know if I can challenge prospects to do that very demo, or not."
"blackhawks, in your opinion what Go800 key words are 'fakes'?'
Very few if any and absolutely none of mine. However, you may be working with a looser definition of 'fake' than I am.
I consider a functioning but non contracted brand/keyword to be 'genuine'.
ionicbulb46800
I did register it. Give it a try!
"blackhawks, that key words - or most of them - in Go800's system
haven't had subscriber monthly payments made on them doesn't mean they're fakes."
Uh, what part of my post did you misunderstand? I believe I'm a "choir member" in this exchange!
"big comanies will give much credit/atention to an email or phone call from an unkown company offering a "new" service."
Agreed. That is why demonstrating functionality with working key words is essential. Look at the confusion and misunderstanding about the service expressed on this board by people who've had access to DD about GOIG and it's service.
"Bottom line is: How do we know if those companies are even aware of GOIG service?. Now I know why we don't see any kind of ADV out there."
They know about it when I speak with them or when they recieve an email describing the service. I can't predict how soon or if they they will advertise their reserved brand or key words.
"so all the key words are fake or most of them because nobody really sign up yet...."
Since the words are functioning texts with functioning phone numbers, they are not 'fake'. The first objective of the test period is to establish and demo functionality. Then come the business arguments for signing a contract.
As with any B2B sales some companies will be persuaded, or persuade themselves, that this is a viable customer relationship management tool as well as as an effective marketing piece within their overall marketing plan.
"We are all screw then....those 2000+ means nothig if this is true.. LOL!!!"
1.) I can't attest to how the initial 1000 companies were 'reserved' by GOIG, whether or not Ike or others
had conversations with the companies, whether or not any contracts were signed.
2.) We are restricted to no more than 100 entries in a 30 day period. I have 65 in 10 days. I choose to start working those while being alert to new 'opportunities' for brands and key words.
3.) No one knows how many will sign or how soon any will sign.
4.) We MAY be screwed for a host of reasons. But I don't think they can be chiefly found in what I've just itemized.
"Do you need any kind of contract or confirmation from the Company prior to enter the keyword in the Database....?"
One does NOT need either a contract or company confirmation prior to data entry.
"My understanding is that companies who are requesting keywords will sign a contract prior to their keyword activation, BEFORE they start testing or using. Then when June 1 comes, their service will be continued unless they choose to "opt out".
Where did you come by that 'understanding'?
As near as I can tell as soon as we enter the keywords with working phone numbers, on the data entry page, the service is 'active'. The testing that people have done with companies on my list confirms that a signed contract is unnecessary for the service to function.
Hmmm where did I last see so many expressions of resignation and half-hearted "good lucks" followed by carnage? Oh yeah, the Marines run across the airfield on "The Pacific, 'Part Six': Peleliu gets worse". See you on the other side!
"Yeah, ZVTK is getting hot, did they get signed up on GO800."
Free trial: ionicbulb46800
"The girl and the bulb are very catchy !!"
Close your eyes and you'll think that you're listening to a youthful Edith Bunker.
All we need is Archie speaking up from the card table:
"Ahh jeez Edith, can't a guy play cards in peace?! Why don'tcha put that bulb in the terlet where meathead just came out of?
That'll be the big test for them ions!"
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=ihvView&cb=1271800312&y=e_plI47n2ks
"is ionicbulb onboard?"
'Onboard' as a functioning reserved brand during the free trial period.
"have you or anyone noticed, or known of, a transaction that has been made as a direct result of a Go800 call?"
Things appear to be heating up with the bulb company, a potential paying customer. ionicbulb46800.....buy some!
marines46800.........join!
"We investors will get rich on this with a little execution."
It will probably take more than just a little execution and certainly more time than some may care to wait.
News is what most shareholders will need to either hang in, buy more or re-enter. I don't understand the blind faith placed in SEAB and other MM's to "save us" from the 'bad MM's' or to shore up pps in the absence of real news about GOIG. Insitutional investors need news to.
"I now have been accepted as an ambassador....."
"I can honestly assure everyone that if they tell us when PR's are going to be released, I still will not utter a word to the public.."
I can honestly assure you that you will not be presented with the opportunity to make any such decision!
"Very good discoveries in DD taking place today. We are looking good for a reversal based on technicals and these findings. The next run is beginning right now, probably back to a sustainable .04-.05 price per share."
No 'discoveries' in DD have been disclosed that are not reflected in pps.
There is no evidence to support the assertion that the "next run is begining...."
"but, you can right now, today in fact, get into a 2 year lease for a key word and that money is due up front,...."
That's simple enoungh, but also total fantasy. No such contract is availble for Ambassadors to present.
"The trial is free but it starts being charged June 1st.'
Not unless a contract is signed will any billing occur.
"Like i said people are going to be very upset when he drops the BOMB and says they are all sold."
That is a highly speculative not to mention irresponsible assertion. Anyone who has worked in B2B sales will tell you that a 100% close rate is unheard of. Hell, anyone who calls planet earth their home will tell you 100% success in any endeavor is unheard of.
A more reasonable expectation would be 5%-10% sign up rate over the next 4 months. Apply that to a probable pool of 4000+ reserved key words by zip code and national brands.
Any new service will need to meet ROI expectations before decision makers commmit for a full year contract. In my opinion we may need to offer month to month agreements to meet the needs of companies that simply will not committ for a full year before an adequate test run.
"There is a lot of people in the water, and the smart ones, have the radar."
Wish I had a virtual destroyer whose sonar would enable me to depth charge your nautical/fish metaphors off of this board!
That said here's a metaphorical bucket laden with metaphorical 'chum' from "Quint".
You can make your own jokes about 'investors in the water/pps ripped to shreds', 'trading board/sea turing red', 'investments bitten in half' and so on. Me? I'm heading over to Whole Foods
to pick up some salmon to satisfy the appetite that writing this post has given me!
"....And, you know, the thing about a shark (MM)... he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be living... until he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'.
The ocean turns red, and despite all the poundin' and the hollerin', they all come in and they... rip you to pieces. You know by the end of that first dawn, lost a hundred men. I don't know how many sharks (MM's), maybe a thousand. I know how many men, they averaged six an hour. On Thursday morning, Chief, I bumped into a friend of mine, Herbie Robinson from Cleveland. Baseball player. Boatswain's mate. I thought he was asleep.
I reached over to wake him up. Bobbed up, down in the water just like a kinda top. Upended. Well, he'd been bitten in half below the waist. Noon, the fifth day, Mr. Hooper, a Lockheed Ventura saw us. He swung in low and he saw us... he was a young pilot, a lot younger than Mr. Hooper.
Anyway, he saw us and he come in low and three hours later a big fat PBY (PR!) comes down and starts to pick us up. You know that was the time I was most frightened... waitin' for my turn. I'll never put on a lifejacket again. So, eleven hundred men went in the water; 316 men come out and the sharks took the rest, June the 29th, 1945. Anyway, we delivered the bomb."
"NO ONE HERE KNOWS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN…"
Vindicated by many, many posts subsequent to yours and no doubt following mine. All of the references to 'walls', 'supports', 'resistance' and 'tests' seem to give the posters a feeling of control where clearly there is none to be found save through the individual's decision to buy, sell, hold or stand aside.
We are either forming a base before the reversal that will take us to da moon or, to mix metaphors, we are leaving forlorn would be passengers sadly standing on the platform as their 'missed train' pulls away. Never mind that successive days reveal that this train's schedule provides opportunities for cheaper fare rides. These are the passengers who say to the the ticketemaster
"thanks for the cheapies"!
The other extreme finds despair and cries of armaggedon for the company and its pps filling up the board. As you stated, "no one knows".
"Did anyone notice the extended hour price on etrade? its at .026"
I wouldn't get too excited. I don't expect we'll see an opening bid at that price. Odd that it's quoted as the last trade and that it's at the opening price from yesterday morning.
Neither Fidelity nor Schwab show such a quote.
E*Trade:
EXTENDED HOURS:
Last: 0.026 Change: +0.0079 (+43.65%) Bid: 0.0181 x5,000 Ask: 0.0185 x5,000 Extended Hours:
Real Time Extended Hours Quote Last Trade as of 3:59 PM ET 4/19/10
".....you should be able to be letting anyone know how things are going."
Maybe, maybe not. I'm thinking this through as both an Ambassador and as an investor. Let's say I start sharing how I'm doing, that it's good but other Ambassadors choose not to share how they're doing. Let's further say that it's a mixed bag and that 20% of us are writing 80% of the business but the actual #'s don't meet your hopes/expectations.
What would you and others construe about any combination of the above scenarios? what would be the implications for GOIG's ability to grow its business? Don't some eventually successful businesses struggle initially?
Lets say I decide to accept a job that takes away my ability to work as an Ambassador and you see no more reports from me. Do I need to furnish an explanation to calm any concerns about what happened to blackhawks?
Multiply those scenarios by 50+ Ambassadors and 600 board members, as of now, and you tell me how you think that will go!
My last post until after 11:00pm CDT
"....without revealing inside information but can any of you inform us how many comapnies you have got to pay for the service?"
You are asking for info on sales/signed contracts that GOIG/Ike has not indicated that we can share. It might be analagous to asking an employee of any company you invest in for a running count on how sales are going for him, his region, the company.
If in fact I or any of the other Ambassadors started posting that kind of info, how might those posts be viewed by the SEC?
"If every poster on this board contributed as much energy to a trul GOIG effort, rather than type whining... then we would already have our .10c share, no?"
Whoa...and, no! I'm an Ambassador and I know what I signed up to do. I've Loaded some keyword suggestions that some people have posted and I've recommended that they test them and give me feedback. They're not my employees and I don't view this as a MLM 'opportunity' requiring group effort.
While I think your enthusiasm for the GOIG endeavor is admirable, I consider your exhortations for others to emulate your efforts as unrealistic and that they border on the 'Messianic'.
Hopefully many of the board investors have full time jobs or are working hard to find one. They shouldn't be expected to shoulder the marketing efforts on behalf of their investment, nor should those who voice legitimate concerns about what they consider to be a lack of of follow through info from the company be scolded by anyone on this board.
Some shareholders express their concerns more artfully than others, all have the right to vent.
"...Within the past 6 months, it has never closed red 5 days str8!!!! We will close above .02 tomorrow!"
Neither do you have to be an 'expert' to know that such trends mean nothing, especially in the light of a launch that was met with the sustained sell-off we are undergoing. The actuality of the launch is what was missing over the past 6 months.
"today a very good day for .016-.0175 buyers...tomorrow starts uptrend imo"
Translation: you're justifiably proud of initiating a position/adding some cheapies & you are hopeful of gains tomorrow.
Tuesday
"Well there`s life in the old girl yet."
Power 1/2 Hour!? Gotta tag those .018 asks before .0185 falls!
Gee, guess the "cheerleader cliche monster" gotta hold a me and shook me furiously!
"GO800 is a potentially market-changing product, but just tossing it out there without any fanfare or attention-getting activities proves amazingly irresponsible."
Well thought out and expressed. Suggest you forward to:
isutton@go800corp.com
"2 BIG Institutions players are loading GOIG "
SEAB has been here a few weeks now. They were going to be our 'bulwark' against shorting.
That they are "institution players" does not assure that institutions are or will be playing.
They are the equivalent of reserved, non-contracted, key words.
"And about the interview! The interview is important. very very important! Many companies' stock prices surged after such interviews (e.g. IMGG)"
No 'and about', about it. That was the key point of my post. You ARE guessing that the interview will result in a pps rise leading into it and a bump right after it. Many companies prices also did nothing or fell after such interviews.
Most investors know that these types of interviews are not used to release substantive NEW info. Money TV's circulation is too limited to avoid violating insider info regulations absent a press release preceeding the interview. So yes, you are hoping, predicting.....guessing that the interview will be a catalyst for a pps rise.
"Many try to look smart on the boards when they only look at techinical analysis - Moving averages, MACD, Fibonacci, Elliot waves, papttern, candle sticks and many more techniques and tools..."
Couldn't agree with you more on that statement. But so too do people "try to look smart" when they claim that they can..."read the emotions and psychology of others in a stock market."
You can infer fear and greed at work in the market, but an inference is also a guess as to what is going on.
The 'hope', 'should' and 'I think' in your last paragraph is a more accurate read on your 'predictive powers'.
"So if they have 2,000 words already in their database, that means they are sold/leased already?'
No, I believe that he misstated. 'Sold' implies contracts.
None of my reserved key words have been contracted for, but they are in GOIG's data base and are not availible to other Ambassadors to enter.
Fellow Ambassadors, chime in.
"A day before the interview on Money TV we should see some surges in the PPS. which will be followed by a bigger surge on the following day after the interview."
Sorry, but absent substantive news released during the interview you have no basis to predict a rise after the interview.
Nor, considering recent price moves do we have any basis upon which to expect 'surges in pps' a day before the interview.
Perhaps 'MrGW'....Mr Guess Work....would work better for you?!
"Did interview with ChartPoppers hurt this?"
Remember waaaaay back to .....last Friday? If you bought right about the time stamp on this post last Friday you would have ridden a nice bounce into the green on that purchase.
Wash, rinse, repeat? Don't know. On the one hand I'm not one of those who need to rationalze holding long with the patronizing and oh sooo self serving cliches "getting rid of the weak hands", "amateur hour is about over" and "thanks for the cheapies". I mean how much do people need to feel that they're the strong hands, the professionals, the grateful? Those who are
just....are. Those who are frightened talk themselves up, on the board as in life.
On the other hand, I continue to load key words, call and demo the service to the prospects and send them the contract for their review. I know that they're going to test out the service, or delgate that to others in their company, and that they're going to take the time to weigh cost VS benefits and make their decison accordingly. That process will take some time, which is why we're not seeing those companies' ads with GO800 all over the place.
"Opens the door to many more investors who would never touch a pink stock."
However full reporting and uplisting does not insulate the stock from day trading, shorting and 'manipulation', however you define that word. Full reporting actually appears to constrain what a company can say between the appearance of those reports.
Some on this board recall a bulb company that actually was uplisted 2 months ago. Remember the cascade of reports about sales $?! Me neither.
"Tea leaf reading" something that is NOT a PR is, to use the word another poster on this board used about PR speculations, 'toxic'.
Look at the number of heated posts soley devoted to discussing PRs.
While I don't agree that the sinking of the Titanic picture that was posted is an apt metaphor for GOIG, I do liken the back and forth about PRs to the futility of "rearranging the deck chairs" on that ill-fated ship.
"one thing I wouldnt have done though, is give the service out for free until June 1st, discounted okay, but not free, this IS a business afterall, what good is it if were giving handouts'
When I mentioned my strategy, to Ike in a phone conversation, of calling prospects I'd reserved brands/key words for and demoing the service by asking them to text their reserved words, he endorsed it. Ike in so many words said that our business was more show/demo than tell. Think about it. No decsion maker is going to commmit $ to a service like this until they see it in action.
How many posters/invsestors saw their enthusiasm increase after successfully testing the service?