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MM's are begging for shares right now but no one will sell to them lol. Those 100 share taps are amusing too see, if the float can stay locked up then we will hold strong, but if they can continue to help each other short it down some and scare a couple people then they will pick up some more blocks of shares and use those against us over and over again. So this is a defining moment for the short term going forward whether we see it continue to grow gradually or drop back down and sit for awhile before news comes... But regardless there is no reason to sell here. The majority of people on this board know the soon coming events to take place here with a settlement being possible any day now.
And now we start our slow decline on tiny volume lol... Have nice volume for 10+ tradings days and shoot up, but the MMs win out so often when they come put some pressure and short in back down... Took them longer than expected however smh. Hopefully we find a new base somewhere around a half a cent atleast and then get more progression soon with good news from the Arris review request.
However i find it funny that cisco tried very hard to get the patents shut down but Arris ignored it so cisco knows they are on the hook
Yeah but MM's are getting gashed everyday for millions of shares trying to control the price. Soon they will give out resistance and let it go some. Then come in again to press some more resistance. Doesn't matter anyways because once settlement news or buyout news hits, there is no controlling the price whatsoever. Also we will continue setting new bases now up until trial is set to begin if we see no settlement or buyout which we all agree is a very unlikely outcome because the 13 are already getting frantic and have subpoenaed the vendors that they have been hiding behind for so long.
Buyout would include either a cash lump sum for the entire amount paid(not as likely as other option). Or they would (more than likely) offer partial payment in cash and the remainder in shares of Cisco stock. Which lets say the buyout brings the PPS to $1, then for every 42 shares we have in UOIP we would get 1 shares in Cisco, if in fact Cisco was valued at $42 per share at the given time. This might effect Cisco's stock initially because a lot of shares being sold off as a lot of UOIP shareholders wouldn't care to hold on to their Cisco shares they just want the cash as soon as possible. So me personally I would hold my Cisco shares until it comes back around and stabilizes again. However judging by the amount we could be looking at maybe a couple billion I don't see that affecting Cisco's share price more than a couple points honestly.
I did not even realize Time Warner was selling to AT&T... I did see their revenues just last year and that made my eyes pop, them and Comcast ofcourse!
I've thought about that and I don't really have a lot of knowledge of patent litigations but they are all consolidated into one case so i dont know how that would go? Would they pay a settlement and then be deemed not apart of the case anymore even though they were included in the initial consolidated subpoena?
If that is shareholders let them - their loss... If that is MM's trying to press it down, let them they will get their shorted position crushed in due time. Im curious how the short volume has been the past 2 days.
Lol look at ETRF got slapped around on .0070 yesterday now they backed off to .009 that's what will continue to happen as long as this stays locked up as it has been for awhile now and we keep enlightening new people on the potential here. The MM's will realize they can't short here and will eventually back off.
Its huge for UOIP...
This is really big for us.... Just google Oil States decision and youll see plenty articles explaining the scnerio. This shows that the judicial branch uses the PTAB as a standard in a way. 80 percent of all patents that go to IPR get shut down. And now it looks to me like the federal courts are going to adhere to the PTAB's decisions for advice. Therefore the PTAB decision holds a lot of merit in our case and being that that they decided in our favor in almost every facet is very very good for us going forward.
That .007 ask is getting slapped around. ETRF either losing their inventory or getting in trouble with a short position
Looks like an agreed too deadline delay... Only set about 2 months further then original deadlines which doesn't change anything. They are begging for more time because they know how screwed they are at this point. Probably want to get Cisco and Arris more involved with this case because they are the entities mostly at fault.
The good thing is the MMs are stacking every day and they are getting hit little by little at least. If we can break through a couple resistance levels they are building then we will move them out the way for a long time probably because they need to learn their lesson here.
If it is settled out of court it is a factor in the negotiation process.
Yes your right... But why does that mean because yhey are worth less market cap that it would work in their favor by getting a bigger settlement. Makes absolutely no sense. They will come up with a number and thats the number. Not "oh well their market cap is lower then it could be so we are going to reward them more because of that". Like i said there is a reason why the cable companies woulf pay to short the stock.
There is confidence in my stock which means the public is behind my stock which means there is confidence from the public which could be a driving force behind a huge damage awarded due to public pressure. The longer they keep this off the radar the better because its less exposure to public which can hurt them tremendously and influence them to settle for a very large amount of money. Your going off of past damages which will be on the table regardless. They are gonna argue about the historical damages regardless so your argument really makes no sense and holds no value. That point is going to be taken into consideration anyways so what does it matter if the market cap is high? Now the lawyers are gonna negotiate for less because their market cap is higher even though it had nothing to xo with them paying for historical damages? Yeah... Hell no
While I see your point I don't see that being an arguing point. If they sit down to negotiate - where they probably already have just aren't anywhere close on numbers - then Carter could laugh at a smaller size offer if the market cap on his shell that owns the patent is already worth $10s of millions in market cap because that is purely off speculation of the market due to allegations of patent infringement and some IPR wins. Whereas if it stays low it keeps his confidence in check and the cable companies can use the confidence of the market as a arguing point for him to accept a lower offer. "Nobody believes in your patent look at the the price per share of your shell". What i'm saying is hypothetical. But your view of a lower market cap being beneficial to him doesn't make sense in a negotiation process.
While I see your point I don't see that being an arguing point. If they sit down to negotiate - where they probably already have just aren't anywhere close on numbers - then Carter could laugh at a smaller size offer if the market cap on his shell that owns the patent is already worth $10s of millions in market cap because that is purely off speculation of the market due to allegations of patent infringement and some IPR wins. Whereas if it stays low it keeps his confidence in check and the cable companies can use the confidence of the market as a arguing point for him to accept a lower offer. "Nobody believes in your patent look at the the price per share of your shell". What i'm saying is hypothetical. But your view of a lower market cap being beneficial to him doesn't make sense in a negotiation process.
Good idea, their money is riding big time here as well.
Rest assured they will continue until people start slapping them around for millions. If they are taking a short position they will be tough to crush. Especially if there is a chance that the cable companies are financially backing them to keep the market cap low here so Billy Carter doesn't have a high market cap working in his favor for negotiations.
Yoy could easily work for any media company... Very nice article man i'm very impressed.
I wasn't on level 2 i was referring to him saying that it was retail... If it's CDEL with all of them shares out then it makes sense because yes CDEL is a MM... I'm pretty sure CDEL has a short position by the way they have been stacking the asks every time this runs up some. Or they are being paid by the cable companies to short this and win the battle through hype scenerios where the price will inflate if not controlled. Therefore Carter will have a little less leverage with a high market cap before any settlements or buyouts are even discussed. That makes a lot of sense if the MMs are being funded by the cable companies to short it.
Wait thats not an MM that keeps pressing that 2.5mil down? Now they are at .0065
CDEL have short position? They been trying so hard... Somebody just stacked a 2.5 mil wall at .0069 lol typical nonsense. I'm guessing CDEL
Are you on level 2? Any MM's showing on ask to .01?
it was 1.3mil... They don't provide a period between the final 2 zeros.
Today?
I partially agree with you. There was someone earlier saying $50 per share and then after I replied he started lowering his numbers to something like $15 per share based off P/E ratios and such. This company will not have a P/E ratio because there is no business in it. It's simply a very likely case in winning a lot of money which will be a one time thing in most cases. That money will be dispersed via dividends. But $1 dollar is possible it will just take a long time. I would be willing to bet this will be multiple pennies running up to the court dates.
I dont think that is how this would work considering UOIP wanted all of the companies consolidated into one court case which was accepted by the court... This was a good thing because now it doesn't create 13 different court cases which would all proceed slower in the long run. So therefore i'm pretty sure a settlement would be funded by all 13 companies not just each company coming out one by one settling with UOIP. And also if a judge awards UOIP a big amount of money it will be a pool of money all funded from the 13 big cable companies based on their usery rate when it comes to the Chanbond tech.
Yes all of the companies are being brought to court because the case has consolidated all of them together. But if there are to be settlements, then I would think that they would be consolidated into one settlement not separate settlements for each cable company. However i'm not well read on how that would work if lets say Time Warner knows that its a really good case and they want to settle first before anyone else idk how that would work.
The high predictions do make new investors suspicious however there is substantial information here to potentially get this thing to multiple dimes and very possibly a dollar. However we still have a lot of time before anything new a dollar would play out. But if your so suspicious you know you don't HAVE to be here right? So that comment is unnecessary. And the share price is nowhere near its real value because there is not enough public knowledge to investors compared to the amount of shares being shorted and MM price control. When more people get eyes on this with articles being posted etc. then this will begin to break the shorts and MM's inventories.
Nice short and sweet awesome outlook!
Every time that bid builds some jackass decides to toss a medium size position out there into the bid price.
This exactly! The TA was gagged and then right after the dilution stopped on a day to day basis for a couple hundred thousand to a couple million shares a day, all a sudden the TA wasn't gagged anymore. That should spell it out clearly that there is no more dilution.
If the article gets accepted and posted, all these guys trying to flip their positions into more shares are gonna feel like idiots lol. But the shorters are always gonna show up after big moves and higher activity. They were successful twice now in 4 days. Let's see who breaks the tie because somebody has to buy all those shorted shares
Yeah sooner or later they will be out of shares but if people keep selling into their bids then it will just be a rinse and repeat process for them. These little ask walls scare these people into selling off their position so quickly.
Lmao I spoke too soon... Literally as I posted they put it up. It will take some big hits to get through that wall so I think they realized that and found a good point to scare people into selling back down for them.
As I expected... Those shorts are getting creamed... Only day they were successful was the 17th... And they only closed it down from .0045 to .0044. I think they might be backing off now, also the MMs are finally backing off so this is going to fly if those two circumstances hold up.
No need earnings jack... The only reason any investors or future investors are here is for the crazy potential with a patent holding up against tech giants like Cisco and law giants like RPX. Keep shorting, I know you got hurt yesterday.