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Proposal 2 is not advisory vote
Non-ethical behavior should not be tolerated
At the end of the day, our vote will not matter.
Careful reading of sleazy lawyer language explains it all.
You did predict PPS will go down because of this very fact
Perhaps you can elaborate your reasoning
For starter, please clarify the day trader you refer to. Are they long or short?
Please elaborate how day trader voting (default against vs for) can influence PPS follow approval of vote
Please check
I believe it is default NO
protecting CIP IP from Dr. Atakan Peker's new Company
Atakan Peker has been backed into the fold recently with various companies including Eontec now Prometaltech. I suspect there will be more.
Eontec (with Peker's help) is clearly convinced LiquidMetal Alloy can be replicated (copied, spun off, cost reduction....etc) without much legal ramification especially in far east. So why does Li engage a business relationship with LQMT?
Back in 2012, Atakan Peker informed the world it will take many years and hundreds of million to create the process of producing LiquidMetal in volume
http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/05/02/expert_says_apple_is_unlikely_to_use_liquidmetal_casings_for_2_4_years
Apple indeed spent both time and money for market exclusivity. Time is the key. Rome cannot be built in one day.
I believe Li and all other far east venture folks realized (with confirmation from Peker) this is not something that can be replicated quickly.
Sorry if you are picking on round number.
Please don't forget following:
In addition to the shares issuable under the 2016 Purchase Agreement, the Company also issued to the Investor a warrant to acquire 10,066,809 shares of common stock of the Company at an exercise price of $0.07 per share.
"please show me where any of Lugee Li's company's have made money"
I don't have any evidence or tend to believe any evidence I can find.
Only thing I do know is somehow he has 63M to spend with 10M already money in our bank.
Please elaborate "what you have told us"
1. Deal goes thru and Li run the stock to "0" before taking private
2. Deal does not go thru and stock also go to "0" due to bankruptcy
3. Deal does not go thru and stock shot sky high because you know better deal is in the horizon
I hope we will thank you for case 3.....
AMEN.....
Life if full of hope
When hope diminish so is life
I sure hope my statement still hold true 5 years from now.
Respectfully
No one should look at pre-production/prototype revenue as profit/loss. It merely reflects potential.
please share with us a public statement with pre-production wordings
I ask the same question to sparky. just to be fair
Thx
please share with us a public statement with pre-production wordings
Thx
Solution looking for Problem
LQMT has been like that for 15 years
Is the Problem finally here? Apple kinda think so. Note they did not just invested in 20m rather a few hundred millions. That's a continuation of 6 years investment with multi extension. They could have stopped the bleeding many times before and chose not to.
Many says we got screwed for a mere 20m. True fact is that we shared the CIP pie without having to spend a dime.
Some say non CE piece of the pie is worthless. Li feels good enough to invest 63m for just that and perhaps the linkage to Apple.
For 6 years, all we hear is "WE GAVE EVERYTHING AWAY FOR DAMN 20M....APPLE TREE IS DRY....NOTHING WILL COME OUT OF IT". With Li in the mix, we should seriously rethink this statement moving forward.
If Li deal goes thru and using 25c as market value. LQMT will be priced as (582+300)*0.25 or 220+ million. That's not too shabby compare to bankruptcy.
For those dreamers (including myself), we can only hope investors will be smart enough to follow the "potential".
LQMT is not gonna have any meaningful PE justification any time soon. Let's all be realistic.
It is the "potential" in the CE land (my personal belief) that will make PPS move in the near future. Anything in the non CE land will just be gravy.
We should not confuse prototype with pre-production. Odds of success are significantly different
Those purchase will not be open market purchase just like the initial purchase.
True effect will take place when the deal is secured on 6/1 when LQMT fulfilled its requirement for the subsequent purchase.
Market should react on the deal rather than any PPS share shored in the open market due to purchase (which will not happen).
This is no different than any IPO or Stock Offering. Price is set at 25 cents.
Many different shades of LiquidMetal
To my understanding, Apple owns the perpetual license of all past, present version of LMxyz. It was fuzzy to me about any future LMxyz.
When LM105 spun off three years ago, Steip says Apple have free assess to that also. This tells me they own the future also.
True? If not, where is the line in the sand?
Hypothetical question.
If Ataken Peker remains LQMT employee and spun off LiquidMorphium for LQMT, will Apple still get a free ride?
Clearly, there was no patent violation challenged by LQMT with Turing Phone emergence. Of course now we understand why.
Behind the scene, could Apple/LQMT have raised the challenge initially?
Now everything seems settle with a deal on the table.
Does it mean Eontec can continue to spinoff various shades of LMxyz non exclusive to Apple?
Is CIP ultimately the trump card on everything?
LQMT get nothing from past/present/future of LMxyz for CE market under current MTA.
We believe (thru various posters consensus) LQMT will get something from Eontec BMG (past and present) for CE market via CIP linkage.
Will this argument hold true for any Eontec BMG (future) that utilize CIP for CE market?
What role can Ataken Peker play for the future?
It will be good if you can share some thought of what some hypothetical LQMT product(s) that will fit "fast track" FDA.
Please don't say "the knife"
Public Disclosure is mutual.
You can bet Apple is working on a lot of LQMT concept....BUT
I concur totally about FDA lengthy scrutiny.
Question is how do we know where (if any) of the LQMT medical prospect is within their FDA cycle.
One can argue public announcement can be any day if the cycle started 10 years ago.
With that being said, no medical company can/will begin any of the FDA process without a prototype. Since LQMT prototype sampling just started recently, we should accept the fact volume revenue will be many years away.
As far as PPS impact evaluation, this is no different than drug company with development drugs. Pfizer price jumped on the early hype (non FDA approval) of Viagara. It exploded upon FDA approval.
Hence the PPS impact of LQMT from medical market should be looked at in "50 shades of grey" rather than "black or white".
Just kidding.....
He probably will be interviewed and answer these type of question once past Jun
Does anyone know how to reach Atakan Parker?....
Anyone who claims they know would have been an insider
Of course I don't know the cost
However, I do know the cost for touch screen keyboard is FREE
Let me put it in a better way
Are you aware of any mechanical keyboard that cost equal or less than a touch screen keyboard?
It will be great if BMG can be manufactured for free
While Home Button is a necessity, virtual mechanical keyboard is a "nice to have" with the world get used to screen typing.
While this can be a competitive "me only" feature, it probably cannot justify cost increase to end user.
Cost matter on everything. Just ask how much Samsung needs to swallow with being leader of OLED vs LCD.
Clearly this is Old News but it has all the pieces in one page. In particular, it happened to mention LiquidMetal home button patent.
http://macdailynews.com/2016/03/14/professor-behind-liquidmorphium-turing-phone-invests-in-liquidmetal-named-to-board-enters-into-cross-licensing-agreement/
Note the patented home button has 3D application (a la Force Touch) as it is measuring the resistance upon reflection of the metal itself.
Pushing this one step further. If home button can be created, one would assume a virtual mechanical keyboard can be created. This will morph the best of both world (mechanical feel with virtual mapping).
Don't forget Apple did compromise keyboard for screen size when they introduced iPhone. That was a decision that many did not agree. As always, Steve Job was right.
There sounds like a perfect fit for LiquidMetal accept one major problem (COST). This is where Eontec might come into the picture.
With all the BMG expert here, can someone comment upon the realistic application of LiquidMorphium for home button use case?
There's the spirit
Moderator takes the lead to post "objective" opinion
Far better the TRUMP Circus show
IMHO
Home Button Clarification
Apple is clearly heading towards elimination of Home button in order to gain screen size without changing device size
With that being said, there will still be a "home button" underneath the screen. It will require precision non degradable spring action. I believe there is a patent file for that.
There are rumors 2016 Iphone.xxx will eliminate home button (which really means home button underneath)
It is all about forward looking. Past is long gone.
Just like 2010, it was all about Apple (perhaps still is)
Objective investment decision (buy/sell) simply should be based on one's view upon LI and its linkage/not to Apple.
Keep in mind, we are outsider. We will always be in the dark. On the other hand, "insider" is handcuffed during the silent period. This is how the system works after many years of "refinement" to make it "fair".
In order for this board to be "credible", let's bring in some live debate over their personal view about Li.
Everything else is simply dumping and pumping and it should be weeded out
Why would anyone in the red at $1.76 trying to recover their loss have been happy to sell at a loss?
Keep in mind... Selling/holding decision has nothing to do with what you paid for but rather what your (personal) vision of the future.
Smart business man knows when to cut the losses .........
To my understanding, when Steipp was hired as consultant to LQMT, PPS was 8 cents.
Those who (should have) cashed out at $1++ should be quite happy.
Difference between Jobs and Musk
Jobs:
Say what you mean
Mean what you say
Musk:
Say what sounds good
Sounds good only creates illusion
Amazon shareholder has not seen much earning either but do have continuous revenue growth.
GE has seen steady income but has not pleased too many shareholders.
Bottom line you need "growth" on either top or bottom line in order to please shareholder.
When you have neither, you are considered a Start Up. Only HYPE can please shareholder.
LQMT has been stuck in start up phase for 15 years "surviving" off HYPE.
HYPE is another word for GREED.
"Greed is Good"......quote Gordon Gekko
Li so far only have 108M shares which is less than 25% ownership requirement to call "hush hush" meeting with shareholder
Do u believe that is a coincidence?
Curly wants to take a chance with Li and Moe insists bankrupt.....
Can you shine some light on the "goodness" of bankruptcy?