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NOT saying there are or there are not paid bashers or pumpers on PNMS. I am just saying that these boards are a breeding ground for both sides no matter what. But there are a lot of people who are reading and monitoring sites like this and have no intrest in the stock or any other stocks and who are not one of the above as I see it.
Do not care about bashers or pumpers readers or posters. Do not care if I make a bad choice and loose money or make money.
I do care if there might and I mean might and I will say it again MIGHT be some wrong doing going on. If that is the case then someone needs to do a little explaining. Or a little more. We will see.
This Pedro guy has peaked my interest as MT has now. Like I said in another post they should have just kept quiet or put any updates in a PR not a Blog.
RED FLAGS have been waved a long time ago I sat as did many and just watched to see what was going to happen.
Scanner issues, being offered a .05 USD buyout when is worth .0000000 nothing, huge stores of money that no one can verify, promises that are not kept. Land that NO one has and many other things.
Investing and loosing is one thing stating facts to gain investors then not delivering or posting misleading actions to retain investors well is other. And more are seeing it or at least it is being brought to there attention.
No bashing and talking bad about PNMS or PEDRO or MT or any of the others is being done except by a few angry posters who should just take a deep breath. The actions of the company and well just say employees of the company speak for it's self. All that is negative being stated or said is action caused by the company and its heads. Nothing else.
Oh this will be fun to see how it all turns out. It is like a soap opra. This could be good.
Hello all. Well I see nothing has changed I started to look into this a little and got some info to where to go. It seems some have already have started the ball rolling into seeing IF there is any negative actions being done by the company.
That is the thing these boards are watched by many but only a few Jack AZZ like us actually post on them. But a lot of people look at them some paid bashers and pumpers and then some others I guess I will leave it at that.
I have NO specific info to report just started to shake the trees but as I see it. There have been some flags tossed on the field already. I will follow up what ever way I can and report later next week if I have any facts to report.
But for now I have NO real info to report just some things I have talked about with others. I will leave it at that.
Just give me sometime.
Ok I got a few emails from some of you. I promise I WILL check into this and see what we can do. Working in NY for years before my transfer came in for NC has given me many contacts in many other Federal Agencies.
NOT like a few I can only promise to do my best and shake as many trees as I can with under the law to find if there has been any violations.
I will be away the last half of next week but will start the shaking a little Monday.
I will keep all advised on what I find out.
One better. If there are and I mean if there are any violations or any other crimes being conducted I will make sure they are discovered. Right NOW I think we are at a loss.
Trust me some on the board do now who I really am and just not some crazy nut job poster.
This company was fine in my eyes up till this last blog post. SEE we all put some money into this some more then others. A few hundred, or a couple of K into it. Some really went nuts sorry to those it was a PINK.
But if the company just said nothing then it would have been just a bad investment and I lost. Can not win them all.
But after this week I feel somthing else is going on. This area is not my expertise but I KNOW unlike a few who threw things around the board about law enforcment and had no clue. I can tell you I do have a clue.
Since entering in this I have printed out every thing and have it all in a nice folder. Unlike a few, I know where to call and send the info to have it looked at. They should of made good on the promise or just kept there mouth shut.
ONCE agine I think we are out of luck but if there is somthing wrong and somthing can be done then it is worth a little work, Even if it just disrupts there daily lives for a day or so.
BULLDOG means 2 things 1811 is a job
I agree 100%
Well time to take the certs out of the safe and hang it in the office so I can look at them and have a good laugh. The funniest thing is the stock is at .0003 and they where offered .05 I am not a math guy but that is a ton of money.
If they think this company is worth a lot more then list it on one of the big bords surley there finacials can get them listed.
Oh and to put new like that in a blog is the tell all. If it was true do a PR so all can see it.
Well it is offical this company is full of it. Time to make a few calls. But tonight I will go to the pool and tie one on.
Has anyone gotten there payment on the 1 yr it is the 25th of June 08 right just wondering
Well no matter which wave you are riding up or down we are all still floating in a sea of water oil and fire with our thumbs up our AZZ'Z. But if the recue ship does appear on the horizon will someone please throw some water and get the oil out eyes so I can see it.
Only time will tell and that is almost done with. The 25th is just 3 short trading days away. I say lets give them to the 30th. We went this long what a joke this is.
MIDAS 716
Just read the PM thanks. We will see. They had every chance lets hope that is the real word and deal.
Well it is wed and it seems like there is no word from the company on the payout I think either the company or individuals would of posted some sort of info if payments where going out or received.
It looks more and more like all the cash and gold they said they had was all in there minds. It is not like no one gave them a chance. I think they where betting on somthing happening that fell threw and they failed or just did not tell anyone about it.
Does anyone know if Antonio Iván Mendieta Díaz
Vice-President and Legal Advisor to Grupo PANAMERSA is a attorney in the U.S. or over seas
The only way for the company to fix this issue is just payout on the one year promise. What I am afraid of is that if they do that then a lot of new comers might get into this with money they might not have thinking it is a solid thing.
And if they do payout it also could be from money they took on credit which is the old borrow from peter to pay Paul thing. If they had just audited the financial by a legit company in the U.S. then that issue would not be one.
I lost a few K on this some lost a ton this company was given every chance and they failed every time. So what is left I just shot an email to my good friend in the SEC in NY and to the FBI. Not much they can do but maybe if there is enough there they can look into MT and a few others in the States. I have been keeping a lot. I am not a financial guy but there could be something with the 1 and 2 year promises thing we can use do not know but hay it is worth a try.
A lot of people trusted and believed but it was not to be. Move on to the next and hope you hit it. I think this company is trying to kill it self. This way they no longer have to make good on anthing they said. Once that happens they can take there money and open under a new name and not go public keep it private. or push it so low they can give all a $1.50 buyout in pesos.
I think now the longer the remaining share holders keep stock and the price holds on will just make MT and Pedro more mad they want all the share holders out well I will keep my 2mil shares and keep it in a frame so I can always have a good laugh.
I thought it sank already I am still just rideing the waves praying someone comes and picks my azz up out of the surf. I was praying but this was a lost one. Can not pick a good one all the time.
Well that said it all. A simple statment of like in the way of those who want to get there 1yr price send in the request by such and such date and you will receive your payment within 30 days would of been nice. Guess that is that.
Hay look you do not have to sell it to me. I was like many others just praying that this was a good long shot. It turned out to be a real long shot that looks like it will never happen. But hay you never know. I am not saying there is or that there is not something wrong going on. I just do not like guys stating things that are not fact like that other one about FINCEN. He or she still never answered my question he or she just tried to go away quietly.
I just don’t like people watching law and order and who watch all these other BS TV shows and think that by hearing a few catchy phrases’s or they read something on the internet and then post it as THE FACTS. When it is not correct info or it is just made up in there minds. That’s all.
And where do you get that from. It is illegal for anyone i.e... Airlines or private planes to fly directly to Cuba from U.S. soil but you can fly to Cuba from other countries.
The U.S. Government can not stop any citizen from traveling to Cuba if they choose to do so. What the State Department can do is revoke there U.S. Passport if they want to. I have never seen that happen.
Also it is not illegal to meet with a Cuban National period. Now to conduct business is a different story. But if the business is not in Cuba then that is not an issue either. In fact DHS, Dept of Commerce and the State Department have information on there web sites to help people who want to conduct business aboard because certain countries can not receive certain technologies and other things. It is very complicated. I think PNMS does not fit those areas but hay you never know.
Look I carry a book with every visa class in it for my job.
Well I see we are all still just floating around in the waves. The way I see it. Is that there is only have a small chance in hell to save this thing. The boat that we where all on is long gone sunk gone nothing left. The only chance for us survivors of being plunked out of the shark infested waters is soon coming what is the date in June well if this company even just tries to fly over us all and pretended that they do not see us then it is done finished. But if they make good on there own word then this might come back to life slow but still it might just make it. Well I am not holding my breath on that but one never knows.
I have a feeling that the company will state that what ever deal MT said would happen when he was running the show will now be void since Pedro took over. I just can not have faith in them anymore I trusted them and hoped they where legit businessmen but the evidence shows the opposite.
Well my last post for tonight but what says the MODS what says the board. Lets shut the lights off and lock the door. That is my vote.
See you and I are not that diffrent See I bought S&W when it was under 4.00 when I was back in NY. I agree. I only had two pinks left this was one been out of pinks for awhile also.
Well you are probably right I lost some green backs but nothing that is going to hurt me in the long term but yes to the next offensive. So far I am still on top but this this. Ah like I said time to let it go. well for those I have membered marked I will look for you on other boards.
I know in the past six months or so I have not posted much been busy with the move and getting settled in. Most of the posters probably do not even know who I am since they are so new. But I really think it is time to just close the bord down. No real reason to leave it up. Let it die let it go. Once 4God left the sign was on the wall. I was a beliver I hoped that they would come threw but they just could not do it. Bad men with a good dream that could not become a good vision. MT I feel was backed doored and kick in the AZZ but he is just as at fault as all that invested are. But now his name will be all over the boards as to risky to be invest with. Oh well. Any way not much left say it is really that simple if the company stays on the market for this week I would be shocked. The doors are closed they are all gone. I will keep my certs so I can look at them and have a good laugh once in awhile.
As the sun sets and a gental breeze blows over the ocean and the water calms if you listen if you really listen you can hear TAPS playing as the sound comes rolling over the waves.
This battle was fought and lost. Some made gains and went moved on others just retreated to fight another day and some stayed to the end.
This ship is sunk and there is no rescue ship coming. Who ever and what ever is left will be delt with by the sharks. A but what a good fight. I think I will just sit here and ride the tide until I finally just take my last breath.
To add to that I talked to 4god and you hit it right on the head he is just tired of dealing with the negative plus he has some other things he is doing which are also very good and helpful.
A 4god why did you hand over the helm. I hope you stay around on the bord still.
You and the rest of us longs.
Will someone show me the proof that he lied. The only way to really tell if he lied is to file a freedom of information request to the DOD or VA and request a blackout copy of his DD-214. The DOD will probably only release the date of his commission if there is one and the dates he served all other info would be blacked out. Other then someone doing that and spending money to do so. To state he lied without proof then you are no better.
Still the same old story the same old people talking about the same old thing. Come on for those who sit on the side of the fence that wants this to be a scam that wants this company to close up shop and run with all the money well it is simple in your eyes they pretty much have done that. So why don't you move on.
Those who still hold stock or PDRS the only direction for most of us will be up. Can’t go lower and if it does go lower does it really make a difference at this point.
I feel if this was really a scam then all the players would have scooped up the money and would have been long gone on a yacht somewhere already. But crunch time is on. Almost 3 months into a new year and nothing. I think most will give it this year then all by next December will sell and take it as a tax right off.
I think all the new rumblings from them is just that rumblings trying to show all that they are moving in the right direction. But the most important thing is the PPS is moving no where.
I am still praying that the company starts to do the right thing. 1st they need to take all the money they say the company makes and bring it to a first rate American bank/ Financial company and have it verified that it is the 1st thing they need to do.
Just like in a card game bluffing only works some of the time. Eventually someone will call you and you will have to show your cards. Well a lot of investors I think are calling or will be soon. The company needs to show the cards they really have. I think they will not they will stall with a lot of talk. I am at the point now also I think they are bluffing and are praying for a good river card. The flop and turn cards have been a bust for them. They have one card left to make a hand. Time is running out.MT a little Texas Hold em for you.
They have had to many bluffs and re-raises. Game is coming to a close. 08 is the year or not. MT, Pedro and the rest of them show the investors the money for real. I say they got nothing. I DO FEEL THEY DID MAKE A HONEST TRY AT IT but it was a loss. Why they lost I do not know. Are they sick home sick or just plan sick or that they do not have the ability to make connections or make deals go threw. What ever it was they lost.
I do not even care about the money that I lost that is just what it is a loss. But I still got my integrity. They are losing there or in some peoples eyes have lost it already.
You can not pick a winner all the time but you must be honest when you don’t pick a winner say so. I just want some honest answers. Well I will get off the box and climb the mast again I think this Bit$% with her AZZ it the sky will be going under for good by summers end. Eventually the air buble that is holding her up will bust and escape and down she will go.Oh and like I said before I will go down with her. Serious see MT, Pedro if you read the boards. Probably not, since they can not work a scanner. I HAVE INTEGRITY. I said I will go down and I will. I JUST HOPE THE WATER IS WARM. I hate cold water it hurts.
A stock forgive me for not replying back by PM.I am a free member right now but I was just still wondering thats all.
Hello all I see we are still sitting out here PIZZing in the wind. Well I hope HQ sends a tug out and pulls us back into port for much needed repair. New crew and then lets us get back into the war. I hate when it is quiet.
Green I think most are green from being sea sick. I for one are down big time but what is down. I have not lost anything since I am not selling it is only a paper loss.
I see nothing has changed same old crying about stincky pinky oh MT go to jail this is a scam.
Question if a person is going to cry about loosing money in a high risk pink stock which all on this board knows that 99% of pink/penny stocks never make it then why invest in the 1st place.
Put your money in blue chips. It is a gamble do you cry if you play cards and loose which we all know that the house has all the odds in there favor. Do you make a complaint and want the dealer put in jail claim it is a scam NO.
This is the same thing nothing criminal is going on we all took a chance. We all have been delt a hand that is not the best hand at this time.
YOU have two choices there is no bluffing in this hand that time has passed. You can play the hand and hope you come out on top and pull it off or fold and hope you catch a winning hand on the next deal.
We play these scams as some what to say in hopes we hit one like FHAL, or FORD. My pops who is older then dirt played FORD at .33 like 10n years ago and sold it like two years later for like 25.00 for a ton of cash.
These picks no matter how much you research draw charts put years of reading books and all that other crap means nothing in this land. It comes down to a game of chance a lottery ticket nothing more you will never pick the low or high. Never. You will hit it once in a while by chance. Stock experts what a joke. They are the scam. In stead of beating each other up over a bad pick we should be talking about what is a possibale good play.
I see nothing wrong with voicing your feelings on this pick. Also I see nothing wrong with saying hay look at this one or that one. Work togeather we might all make money.
Ok I am off my box now
Hay Mods this is bad it is all a scam it is all over no mas hay lets kill the board the company is out of buisness the company heads will be sitting on a beach having a good old time with all the money they took or in jail.
Ok so why is everyone still hear no reason to talk about it anymore the POLICE have been notified if there is a crime being done then lets them do there job. Just give them your real name not your log on name so they can get in touch with all of you so you can pass on all the info you have.
Hay stockslayer how is FINCEN working out get anywhere.
Nope wrong again.
Number one they are not a federal Law enforcement agency a like a division under the Department of Treasury. Members in law enforcement use FINCEN as a way to share information in better words deconflict information so if one agency has an investigation going on and another agency is investigating the same thing they are then put together.
It is a think tank for Law enforcement. Agencies use it to train each other and work together. You speak of FINCEN like they are some great financial crimes investigatory agency. NOT also they should not be sharing information to the general public the information they have is law enforcement sensitive and should NOT be public information.
If you think that there is a crime going on especially an over seas crime. FINE. You can call 1800-ICE-TIPS or call the FBI. ICE and the FBI handle financial investigations in some case the department of commerce does also most likely not in this case. The SEC does not investigate crimes they pass it off to the FBI/DOJ. OK
Look I am not happy with what is going on also this stock should have been at a .01 by now. Things that the company heads are doing and saying just do not add up.
If MIDAS is owed money regardless the company should write him a check it simple.
I for one will ride it out and give it this year I invested the money no one forced me too. I will wait and see what happens. If I loose then it is on me if a crime has been done then I will file a complaint like everyone else and wait to see what happens.
But FOR ALL THOSE WHO FEEL THAT A CRIME IS BEING COMMITTIED. Then start making complaints in writing and in emails to the SEC, ICE and FBI even on the State level. If enough people write then they might and I mean might start to look at it.
FINCEN what a joke.
OT how do you put up a photo on the board