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well it works out this way for amne:
1]5 per state equals 5x50 is 250 associates
2]250 associates divided by the 18 months equals 13.8888 new associates each and every month, this is a very tall order for any company to accomplish in very little time.
3]why does no one want to touch the elephant in the room question, where is amne going to get the monies for television advertising???????
by amne's own words:
"when we achieve the 5 applicators per state[which we expect will take about 18 months]"
that is what amne said in their nov. 12th 2008 pr.
that is one new associate every two days, that is amne's business plan by their own words, not mine
please be so kind as to read post#49569 sat. 11/15/2008 @7:35 am. this poster broke it all down in regards to the 18 month time frame that AMNE RELEASED IN THEIR PR. no one is making anything up here! in order to reach AMNE'S goal of $25 million in revs during the 18 month time frame, note: this is per the pr from AMNE dated wed. nov. 12th 2008. this is the goal that amne has set for themselves, i didn't, nor did the other poster.
AMNE NEEDS TO GARNER ONE NEW ASSOCIATE EVERY 2 DAYS, THIS INCLUDES WORKING WEEKENDS, SHOULD YOU EXCLUDE WEEKENDS IT GETS
MUCH WORSE. AMNE SHOULD HAVE TWO NEW ASSOCIATES SIGNED RIGHT
NOW. FURTHER DELAY PUTS THIS WHOLE PROGRAM INTO CRITICAL MASS, AFTER ALL AMNE HAS HAD 9 MONTHS TO FLOAT THIS BOAT. THIS
NOV. 12TH PR. SHOULD HAVE TOLD US MUCH MORE.
1]HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO THEY HAVE ALREADY HIRED TO DATE TO ACCOMPLISH THEIR 18 MONTH GOAL?
2]THAT AMNE HAS PURCHASED UP TO DATE VENDOR LISTS FOR THE 50 STATES, OR ARE THEY GOING TO THE PUBLIC LIBRARY TO COMB THRU THE PHONE BOOKS
3] JUST HOW MUCH INSULATION DOES HAWAII NEED? WOULD 49 STATES BE MORE ACCURATE?
4]WHAT CUTTING EDGE CHEMICALS WILL THE COMPANY BE HANDLING, AND WILL PERMITS BE NEEDED IN ALL FIFTY STATES FOR SUCH THINGS AS SPILLAGE AND DISPOSAL OF EXCESS FLUIDS. WHAT LIABLITIES ARISE FOR AMNE. HOW MUCH IS INSURANCE FOR SAID POSSIBLE LIABITIES.
5] WITH THE ONE NEW ASSOCIATE EVERY TWO DAYS[ REMEMBER WE ARE ALLOWING FOR WORKING ON THE WEEKENDS] HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO VEST EACH NEW ASSOCIATE, MAKING SURE THEY HAVE LOCAL PERMITS/LICENSES/INSURANCE/WORKER COMP IN SUCH A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME?????
6]THE MORE I DO MY DD, THE MORE AMNE LOOKS LIKE UTTER NONSENSE, AND TO THINK THEY ARE LOSING MONEY ALREADY!
by my calulations the orignal share count for the 365,000 shares should be aprox. 182,500,000 shares pre split...hmmmm
that's alot of shares.
365,000 x 500[reverse of 1/500 split] =182,500,000 shares as of the july figures from pinksheets, and amne stateing then that they were waiting for the return of aprox. 365,000 shares
no sir, you have me confused with someone else, don't plan on buying in here at this level. it is very clear by the bid/ask spread, the lack of volume, that no one else is either. remember amne is losing money, that makes them a better bet down near .0001/.0005, down here you could be looking to a 400/500% gain. not chump change with a move from .10 to .20 cents, way to risky for too small a gain. friday it went from seven cents to one cent to 9 cents on nothing tlk about air sickness
you have me confused with another poster, i have never called johnny/jerry/ricky p. ever...please do not confuse me another poster. i always let amne do their talking in public releases, always way more fun that way....monday will be six days, that means we will have our third associate signed sealed and delivered, right? remember i have never claimed that these idiots at amne don't answer their phone, i would have had to call to know that.
just as importantly, who does not want to surrender their shares, why do they not want to surrender their shares???? really it could mean just that the idiot transfer company amne has been using until last week, hasn't done their job right! i did dd this: that there are million of pre split shares of rgno/cpn/amne floating around...MILLIONS. my dd tells me jerry/ricky p./gerald parker are suspects more than anyone else. happy dd
i disagree....amne keeps opening doors for more questions. who is returning the shares that people keep posting about? whom do they belong to? do they belong to past ceo's, past treasurers, past rgno employees, past cpn employees, past or current employees of amne, were shares handed out in payment for services done for any of the companies involved here. i fully understand rgno is dead, i fully understand cpn is dead, however that does not mean the past associates are gone[dead].
there are some 365,000 shares missing, or need to be returned. please note: that the 365,000 shares that need to be returned are post 1/500 split and then post 1/20 post split shares, that really means that millions of pre split shares are to be returned, who had the means to aquire that many shares???? who?????
that has yet to be proved that there are any new people running this pos...just the same old crew hanging around
well ragmuff i will say i was so torqued over amne wasting 60 thousand dollars that i didn't see further than that in this part of the pr. so are we left to think that this american green group was all a hoax? did johnny c. have the rights to the american green group name? remember "the web site was owned by an assciation they had intended on purchasing" sooo...they never owned "american green group" and they have public releases under said name! this may explain ricky p. being able to issue a public release under amne's mane???? after all ricky p. was long time gone...yes. so this completely sheds new light on amne, to wit: as far as i'm concerned jerry/ricky p./gerald parker/johnny c./terry mixon are still the game here! please note they never state who the mystery association is, could be one or all the above...unbelievable
why am i having to read all of this from a poster on ihub...where is the ceo/treasurer of amne? they need to step up with some explaining, pie in the sky 25 million in revs statements but they haven't thought anything thru? i guess it is "oh gee maybe we should hire some telemarkerters, how many cold calls need to be made in order to aquire one new associate? 9 months later and do they know how many telemarkerters they need to hire to achieve their goal? what stae are going to start with conn. or is it hawaii [ do they need insulation in hawaii?] or are they going to throw darts at a map. what "green chemicals" and is there such a thing? where are the monies going to come from for telemarketers and the expensive television advertising? there are far to many questions left on the floor to be asking people to step up and hit the ask! see us in two weeks with the answer pz1/gb1....
thor i completely understand the prs'...every two days amne must sign a new associate...we are into four days, we now have two new associates, however should you be confused by that simple math, call terry and ask how many new associates they have signed. also ask how they are getting the monies to advertise on television, cause amne financials say they are bleeding bad and don't have the profits to pay for the expensive ad campaign. and please keep the call short, terry has a mountain of cold calls to make to stay on track for the one new associate every two days, well ask him how many calls on avg. they have to make to keep the avg. up....thank you
really...and what "facts" do you have to back that statement?????
w3research...thanks for the list...living in so. calif. i am well aware of the h. f. ahmanson company so i googled h.f. ahmanson and about three pages into google was home savings/h.f. ahmanson vs. the united states. seems they sued the federal gov. for breach of contract in their dealing with none other than the mergeing of bad savings and loans, seems the feds didn't live up to there end of contracts...lol
dang ragmuff, i stumble on another one of your great posts, asking all the correct questions, imo, great job ragmuff.
p.s. amne should have their second associate signed today, we should start a clock so we all know how many associates they have signed...yes
enough...who has the power to issue shares for what ever purpose??? you/me/santa who? JOHNNY C.
da chief, but to what end or purpose...with cash in hand the company can purchase just about whatever they want, take the company into any field of business they want, after all isn't amne a holding company. purchase any business they want, a business turning a profit, adding shareholder value. i mean what have these fools at amne been doing for a year? they couldn't find an up and coming business field and find a good company to purchase? are you saying they should be a holding company that only hold shares????? i just do not get their approach at all
is johnny ceo of amne and in control of all the shares [except for the tiny float of 500,000] issued or not????? is johnny ceo??? does he not control what to do with the 74.5 million shares, ie hoard them/sell them/issue them to himself/issue them to his friends/relatives or whom ever????
yes dachief correct on both points, it all comes down to what the share price does after each event r/s or a f/s. in almost every forward split the stock will run as peoples pile on for the split, now i believe that this event is totally positive for a stock[more shareholder friendly if you will]. now the complete opposite is true of a reverse split, i believe these have a very negative effect on shareholders mind sets, in amne case we got the reverse splits and no support from the company to maintain the share price at all, i want to repeat, amne did nothing to support it's share price, nothing. hense the share price fell for the double whammy, less shares and falling share price. i perceive that forwards are positives/reverses are negatives toward stocks. also da chief, i believe that with the tight float the proper forward split would have allowed the price to sky rocket to $1.00/1.50/3.00. this is where the smart ceo creates company cash to grow the company. the smart ceo would sell into the run without killing the run and excitement..yes? but no, we got the formula, a formula that appears, DOA...sad very sad
let me see:
1]75 million a/s for shares
2]johnny c. is ceo of amne
3]ceo of amne has control of
a]his own personal shares
b]controls all share in treasury/or that can be sold into the market out of 74.5 million shares {less float of 500,000]
4] i see however you fail to account for any shares for anyone or anything or for any purpose
5]what do you think they are doing with the shares issued?
has anyone asked themselves why amne just didn't do a simple forward split? they are so concerned about shareholders, why not a simple forward split. that is what i was waiting for! but alas, not to be, after all the reverse splits created such a tight float, these amne morons come out with a formula, yep a formula, with down the road payoff in a year, who's kidding who?
a simple, say, 5 shares for every share you own forward split, where would the share price be then! $1.00/1.50/3.00???? but, no didn't happen we got the formula with a possible payoff in a year. well it looks like the market isn't buying it either. i have called amne mangement buffoons/morons before...i stand by that statement...another great opportunity lost amne...unblievable
simple question...WHERE DID THE 74.5 MILLION SHARES GO? let me see to johnny or terry or just in the company treasury [note thor there is no difference johnny/company treasury]. every reverse split has robbed shareholders of their stake in this company...that is robbery pure and simple, in anyones book. please remember that it is amne that did the reverses and issued aprox. 74.5 million shares, period.
i know...fustrating to say the least, however the facts just keep hitting me in the head...they just won't go away, and all this after two prs...very fustrating old friend
morning wildbill729.....i am really trying to reform and think positive with this company, but everytime i get headed in that direction johnny whips out his pistol and shoots himself in the foot again and then of course every cell in my body wants to go in the opposite direction...fustrating to say the least....everyone have a nice day
uhhhh...terry mixon is staying...darn that means nothing has changed....he has been here since day one, since rgno bought out aes/cpn. after all johnny c. was on a cruise when the rgno/cpn/aes deal all came down, that left only terry to handle everything related with rgno's purchase of this company...bummer, nothing really changed here..........
ohhh goody...johnny c. has gone bye bye....not soon enough, two reverse splits and millions of insider shares issued these past few months. and those reverse splits, gutting the shareholders of their stake in this company, who could forget that! ouch, these guys got nothing on the oil boys, or that entertainment dude...yes things MAYBE looking up here
now in one post you state that amne has new leadership coming, someone named chemical ali, in the next post you talk of transparency, how transparent can they be if all this is true?
well if johnny is gone then the pr all about no reverse splits going to happen is useless...no? are we to take johnny's word on any of the last two pr's? do they have any weight or validity at all? i believe this makes the last two pr's by amne worthless, why don'y we just wait for chemical ali?????
yes they do state they will have a no r/s clause and the shares will be safe. however, that will be put to a vote by shareholders.since amne ceo johnny c. owns 74.5 million shares out of a possible 75 million, he will do as he sees fit, when he sees fit, clause or no clause
pizza...why do you keep stringing me along? two weeks ago it was next week, now i have to wait until thanksgiving...thats two weeks away....what gives? amne hasn't done anything except release two weak public releases, two days in a row now and the price and volume haven't done a thing...what gives? when are they going to step up to the plate and release some real info, instead of talk you can float a fleet thru...what gives?
"amne has the right mgmt team"? only if you were to think that by enriching themselves by issueing millions of shares to themselves that is good mangement. wipe out shareholder equity, while disgorging millions unto themselves...yea right
1] thor and da chief were posting that aes was returning shares to amne,see post post#48285 by thor, see also post#48386 by da chief, both this morning
2]how do you know that jerry/ricky or gerald parker ever returned anything. with all the reverse splits and shares issued to johnny, it would take a csi investigation to find out anything!
3]remember their now fired transfer agent has been fined by the sec. for not filing paper work and or filing paper work late, who knows what lies beneath the surface?
4]everyone should hope that this promised dividend is paid after all the paper work settles with the new transfer agent, if not we could be months straighting out the screw ups. remember, these agents are responsible for knowing who owns what and hense gets what [dividend]
"revs sound good"...there are no revs...amne is bleeding badly acording to the last financals...however amne is going to start a television ad campaign, with what?
you haven't posted any facts, what do you have for facts? inquiring minds want to know...step up!
message to the board:
in todays public release amne promises to not do a reverse split without SHAREHOLDER approval. i believe this statement to be meaningless. please follow along, after the first reverse split amne/johnny issued MILLIONS of shares to himself/amne. several months later we have another reverse split and again johnny/amne issues MILIONS of shares to himself/amne. now we sit with aprox. 75 million shares issued, with i would guess 99% of those shares sitting in johnny's hands. also take note that there are already preferred shares outstanding, no one knows what rules govern these shares, ie how they vote in any shareholder meeting. amne states they want to try and insill trust in the market place and distance itself from prior mangements of entities that were controled by others. johnny, how can we trust you after statements like these in your pr today??? you own all the shares johnny....have you no shame sir????
who is returning shares to the company??? inquiring minds would like to know. it has been posted that aes is returning shares, we know this to be untrue as aes is the original company that rgno bought, hense the founding company, aes can't return shares to aes/amne for they are one in the same company....again, who is returning shares.....the mystery company that has cost the company 60 grand? do we know for sure that any shares were issued to them, if so how many and when and for what purpose? who is the mystery company, what do they do,who runs this company, were they legit or some fly by nights???? the more amne opens their mouth the more questions come, the keystone cops comes to mind when i think of amne
jessieland...you are so correct...they are washing their hands of some unknown business partner that has cost them 60 grand, that the company admitts to. do we even know that the mystery company was in the insulation biz or did i miss something? yes, and my fave part as you pointed out, is the, they are going to cold call, while sitting at the kitchen table, our future business associates/partners! and lets not forget the television advertising, now that is totally unbelievable, that they can afford to advertise on television. imo, i didn't think johnny could shot himself more than once in each foot!
SORRY THOR...ACCORDING TO IHUB ADMIN, ALL PAST AND CURRENT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BENN INVOLVED WITH AMNE/AES/CPN/RGNO ARE ON TOPIC...HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU HAVE TO BE TOLD THIS!!!! PARKER,JERRY G.,RICKY P.,JOHNNY C., ALL ON TOPIC
"DEAL WITH AES"...say what? aes is the founding company of amne. rgno bought aes, what shares would aes need to return? all the shares issued after each reverse split???? unblievable
what mom and pop insulation company are you referring to?????