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If we get another green day we're bound to hit breakout boards, no? That would be pretty sweet and propel us past $.01, $.02, $.03?
Gents I think we may be on the come up here. Just please one thing, DON'T SELL INTO THE BID (get them to raise it). It will just hurt you in the long run. If you have to unload some shares, wait until there's high volume. Otherwise you're just screwing yourself and everyone else.
Please and thanks
Thank you that's great DD. Personally from a layman's perspective I believe they've been having liquidity problems and hence writing themselves all these convertible notes to keep up for general working capital purposes. To me a company that's expecting cash on hand to come out soon wouldn't be writing these. Or would they, expecting to easily pay them off $100K here or $300K there?
I know they're annual should be coming out within the next four weeks, but why the radio silence since January 22nd? They haven't given us a timetable or any indication that operations are underway to fit these buses in Mexico City with the Hydroplant.
When do they expect to realize that $1M purchase order?
What is their share structure?
All of these questions and answers investors want to know. Good or bad it would keep investors like myself out of limbo in deciding where this company is headed.
Well then, appears NITE got filled with 400K @ $.006. Way to do the exact opposite of what you should have done, whoever you are that sold to them.
That was a bad move.
NITE on the bid, and they are not F'ing around, wants shares. Don't sell into the bid @.006 you'll kill momentum!
Down 13% on $55-$56K in trades today.
It wasn't long ago that you'd NEVER see VOIS have this kind of volume. Naturally a sign of toxic dilution. Now likewise you'll need IMMENSE volume to ever get this back to $.008 or so, where many people bought.
I think that last run that brought it back up to $.008 was for everyone who was underwater (maybe friends of insiders, etc) to get out.
What a complete sham, if only people had read the DD about the company and/or it's scummy CEO they could have avoided this multi-year tax write off.
YIKES, RUN!
Nice close!
Looks like they've brought the bid up nicely (for now).
I'll take 34% per day, I'm good w/ that.
I translated portions of their latest report, did not show any sales being made. Maybe they'll have an announcement about a pending deal?
Do you know what HPTG would receive through their licensing agreement if HTE ever sells anything?
Would be nice if they wouldn't continue to block the ask and just let this thing run the way it should. They could make so much more money!
Also in order to sustain, need something to spark the MM's into raising their bids. The bid-side hasn't changed, just seems like somebody out there has done some ask slapping to get us where the current share price stands.
100% agree, happy with this but would love to see the volume increase with it. Maybe after a day like today we'll start to hit some breakout boards.
They're not far from my folks house in Atlanta, I should ask my Dad to go out there and see if there's any activity going on around their HQ. I'll take this to stalker levels to make sure they're on the up and up!
I see they're trying to mess around with us again this morning, I'll believe it when I see it MM's!
Sent emails to David Waldman May 15, followed up a week later, no responses. I sent two emails to their general IR address too, no response.
They have gone quiet, and in the meantime written themselves $300K in convertible notes.
Has anybody written and gotten a response from them of late?
Only artificial intelligence would be doing a series of trades like this:
$0.0045 22,000 OTO 14:44:45
$0.0044 5,000 OTO 14:43:59
$0.0045 20,000 OTO 14:15:32
$0.0045 6,000 OTO 14:14:39
$0.0045 22,000 OTO 14:14:39
$0.0045 11,000 OTO 14:14:32
$0.0045 11,000 OTO 14:14:30
$0.0045 10,000 OTO 14:13:27
$0.0045 35,000 OTO 14:12:14
$0.0045 10,000 OTO 14:12:09
$0.0045 10,000 OTO 14:09:28
Just pulled a few for example. I'm not sure of the mechanism but no human would sell in increments of 5K, or 20K for that matter.
These trades are a waste of commission fees unless there's some bigger picture they're going for aka accumulating every retail share in large blocks at a much lower cost.
Whoever initiated coverage and gave this a $.26 price target deserves to be flogged in public and/or shot. If this company falsely reported on a $1M PO they deserve to be sued.
Agreed, I've emailed every HPTG address I have asking for something and though it's Friday I haven't heard anything back.
I was hoping Slotkin's activity during that last investor conference would be enough to get some real support going but here we are again at the same share price.
Anybody else been in communication with the company?
I can dig it. You a little surprised there's not a ton of bid interest from MM's at these levels tho? Last time HPTG visited these levels there was bid support in like 300-750K blocks.
At this stage I don't see that type of support until $.001. Any thoughts?
Make that .1%, wow.
Hydrophi's market cap at current is about 1% of your company's market cap and they have all of two real ongoing projects that they've made public (Latin America and Poland). So it's not only material but vital to their survival that they're transparent about progress.
I agree about the PO not being realized revenue immediately. Don't you think it's material information if the operations are ongoing in Mexico? Wouldn't it be in Slotkin's best interest to announce that they've commenced upgrades on these buses.
BTW, props for the UNDISPUTED Champion Buckeyes reference.
Ok that's fair enough and I can buy that.
The company did announce they received an initial purchase order of $1M, which would be more than double their current market cap if it's TRUE. This was the big whale that got most of the investor interest in the first place, not as much the Poland deal or HTE.
Now if that revenue is never realized, they have no foreseeable need for dilution. Based on their two Form D's (one in April and one this month) it doesn't appear that happened.
So either there's a delay in installing (which we have no idea, company hasn't communicated) OR they just flat out lied.
I guess we'll know more when the quarterly is released. Until then, this could easily get crushed further I don't see what would stop that.
What info do you have from Poland, and who's the horse?
The immense amount of volume needed to move this stock is ever increasing as the dilution increases through all of VOIS toxic financing. Your odds are much better at the roulette table than getting rich off of VOIS, seriously.
Your prediction may have been right, but same with the guy that put money on red at the roulette table. You never provided any reasoning behind your opinion. Hindsight is always 20/20.
No real bid interest showing until $.001 from ATDF. Can't believe it's gotten to this point, would have thought to see heavier buying interest at these price levels from the MM's. Anyone else as perplexed as I am? It's trading as if it's about to go BK.
Color me skeptical that they'd need to do a form D for $110K after already doing one no more than a month ago and also getting a $1M purchase order from Rutas Unidas. Skeptical until proven otherwise, but yes holding!
Seeing some ask slapping, which is a good sign. Only 156K left at $.005, totally doable. Cmon team!
Right, they started to smell real fishy in the last couple of months. You have to wonder if some of these pinkies are interested in succeeding or just refinancing to keep the lights on and pay their own salaries. Sadly, 95% of them it's the latter.
Last time they submitted a Form D stock sold off.
I just need ONE more run here, agree need some solid news from the company.
I wonder though if other convertibles on the books have been converted into shares
Amongst all of this back and forth, level II has momentarily flipped. Let's see what this means. For the person on this board that nibbled at those 57's, that may have been the spark.
And Dong, like I said I have my buys and sells set beforehand so if it hits those limits that's when I decide it's no longer for me.
We're all fully aware of the risks of trading pinkies, I'm just trying to point out what may move the stock in whichever way.
Oh yeah, institutions like Citadel have unlimited money I'd imagine the rest do too. It's all algorithmic trading too, hence the full name Automated Trading Desk (ATDF).
They can sit back and grin while retail investors rack up enormous unrealized losses.
So anyhow, consider me a shmuk that's not gonna be very happy with this eventual tax write off and best of luck to all of you hopeful investors.
I can't go back into the activity yesterday, but if I could you would see within the first two hours of trading total volume was at 4.6M. When has that ever happened for HPTG? It hasn't. Never has there been that much in the 4 months we've all watched this. So presumably, most of that had to be selling for the ticker to be down 27% right off the jump, no?
And to not acknowledge something is up when we had nearly 10X average volume yesterday is odd. How do you get such a large increase in one day on no news, it just doesn't happen.
Lastly I'm not expecting a PR pump and dump, but HPTG HAS done that before and who's to say they won't do it again. The last one was a Tobin Smith pump and dump.
Right on queue, CITADEL puts a lid on .0057 at 1:17 by blocking it with a 150K ask, and they're gonna try to squeeze this down into the $.0047-$.0049 range on all of 30K in volume... all because nobody would by a measly 20K shares at asking price.
Average 30 day volume now at 982,546, with yesterday's being nearly 7M and today's at 1,029,292.
Previously was at around 700K average 30 day volume.
I've seen this before with another ticker that took a dump, VOIS. Volume increased as dilution increased, and stock went kur-plunk.
The share structure must have changed, there's no other explanation to have such high volume without this having runs to the upside.
I'm also seeing no buy support on level II at ANY level beyond CSTI matching somebody else's 275K bid.
How are you all so cheery?
If you didn't see the 4.6M dump at the beginning of trading yesterday you may have selective memory. And yes, I have both buy and sell limits on this for protection. If they don't provide transparency of their ongoing operations they should be dumped.
HTE, whom their product is licensed to, reported no sales in the most recent report. Hydrophi, has not released anything further about the retro fittings of equipment for the Poland deal.
So call em like I see em, no blind pumping from me buddy. If they prosper great, if they don't it's a dump.
Tell me about it, I'm down $2K, feel like a degenerate gambler. That $1M P/O needs to show up as realized funds when they next report.
We're at a little under 10X average volume. 4.6M dumped right at the outset this morning.
I wonder who that was?
Up to 5.7M in volume, dumping all they can today.
RIP
Do any of you posters work for this company?
Who is saying anything from the fourth quarter of 2014? I'm interested in Q1 2015.
Their last quarterly period ended December 31st, 2014.
http://quote.morningstar.com/stock-filing/Quarterly-Report/2014/12/31/t.aspx?t=PINX:HPTG&ft=10-Q&d=f14e35ad755993f77d9f9e3cf311baee
What are you talking about?