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So, basically IRISH... you still cannot prove any of this. Until I see it in an audit, none of this rhetoric means anything. It's a shame people spend so much time on something to which they are not privvy.
Sorry if I don't believe you. I don't know you and you could be full of it for all I know.
IRISH, you are assuming that Frank was not including his shares in the "float". What if he was indeed including them in the "float", and he misunderstood what the "float" indeed is.
People bash him all the time for messing up things... maybe he messed up his own calcs. You automatically assume that what you think is correct without having proof. I find that to have as much legitimacy as someone who says the float is 1,000 shares. It means absolutely nothing until an audit is done.
until then, why not give up on that topic. It is fruitless.
This board is turning into a psych ward. "it's all Frank's fault" "Frank is the reason the pps is down" "fluff pr's is all we see"
I'm out of here. glta.
hopscotch, by saying they would be at the super bowl, I don't think anyone really expected to see them on tv at the SB. I just think any exposure at such an event is good. It is better than the alternative, is it not? (alternative being absent from the SB...lol)
who said anything about a press booth? I was simply referring to word of mouth exposure. If they had a van or t-shirts, etc., even a booth that would be great. One correspondent talking to a reporter is worth a lot. People talk, especially the media. they are always looking for the next big story.
For anyone who questioned exposure... if they just have a few logos out, or a van, or correspondents who get to talk to any of the hundreds of reporters... that is exposure.
Ever hear of goldenpalace.com? They pay thousands of $$ to put ads on peoples foreheads, backs, stomachs, etc. Guess they are stupid, huh? No exposure there.
It is simply ignorant to think that the super bowl will not provide exposure. You may want a commercial during the game, but that is not realistic. Why can't you take a step back and look at this objectively? They are not going to conquer the world there, but it will be nice exposure for sure. Now, eat me.
Why do you consider that useless? Don't you see the exposure they will get on the biggest football day of the year??? Oh, you only care about the pps, not the company. I see.
Vegas' post, although still a rumor, has some validity if you consider this from the January 18, 2005 PR:
'In the second quarter of 2005, Q Television will comply with requirements of all national carriers and make its signal available in High Definition (HDTV). "With the field narrowing for carriers to choose gay and lesbian networks, we have jumped to the top of many lists and will provide all of our carriers with the best possible network," said Olsen.'
2nd qtr begins April 1, so we may have to wait a while for the nationwide rollout, if you believe it really is in the works that is. :)
A while back I stated that they may be keeping the pps low so Comcast could buy up a % of the o/s and become a major holder. It got no reaction from anyone. Doesn't it seem like a major buyback might be going on here? Maybe it is just a bunch of huge block buys going through. I could be wrong, but it is a possibility.
MM's have no connection to Q. This is a toy for them right now and they know how to play it. Investor "sentiment" only fuels their game. PPS does not reflect performance of the company at this point. How do you explain when it spikes? It does that on no news. It doesn't do it after they announce good news. It has no correlation.
PR dates... dates we finished red... I don't know. haha You got me with the bold ones.
Froy, never say never..... pps could go up in a hurry and I don't see 5 cents as being out of the realm of possibility. If F.O. thinks this is a billion-dollar industry, we should exceed 5 cents if investors get on board.
Erik, I hope it does, but if it doesn't it won't kill me. This is money I would have gambled in Reno.
With the development that has occurred over the last year I am convinced they are going to succeed. That is not being emotional, that is being objective. If I was an outsider, I'd be shocked that the pps is so low. The Q has a proven leader. He might not be suave, but he gets the job done.
So..... you do get jokes. eom
So what is your point? It doesn't bother me. Are you trying to convince me of something? That won't happen. I am content with my investment. It's money I can afford to lose. If it bothers you, I don't really care. I guess my question for you is this: Why do you (general) keep complaining about something you have no control over? Are you trying to get others to share in your worry?
2000 calls?! I wonder how many were repeat calls. Nervous nellies calling everyday. If you look at the big picture, the delay has not been that long. They have not even been BROADCASTING for one year yet. A month delay on the announcement of hosts for a show that is not even airing yet is not a big deal to me. If it was on the air and had no hosts.... then I'd be upset. lol
So what happened in the months before this ran from .0001 to .028? Were they dumping shares then too? Just because the pps has gone up and down (mostly down) it doesn't mean they are dumping shares. It doesn't mean they aren't, but why would they if they just did a share buyback???
Day traders are losing their toy bit by bit. Say bye bye to the manipulation soon. IMO
prince, if you have been asking this question for so long and getting no answers what makes you think you will get one now? Agenda??
Long the Q, you have an agenda. eom
Think about it... why would one come on here and push an agenda so fiercely? Most posters are not that way, they just float from topic to topic. The ones that will not let something go... that is a red flag. Remember, to the MM's and the day traders, this is a game. Don't fall prey to them. They make it seem like they have a valid argument, but it is just to stir the pot.
It's clear that hopscotch and Bull do not like Skunks. You two have an agenda. Seems like you have bonded through your messages and are now "ganging up". That is so juvenile. I don't know any of you, including skunks, but skunks seems to be the more mature out of the three of you. Drop your witch hunt and get back to relevant discussion.
And just because someone spends a lot of time on here doesn't mean much. I used to get annoyed at always seeing certain people on here, but then I thought, maybe there is a reason they spend a lot of time on here. Some people that I know of are physically unable to get around and they surf the web a lot. I would hate to think that some of our investors might be in the same boat, but if they are we should not be throwing stones.
firefight, posting a made-up press release on the internet just shows us all what kind of person qbidsarrow really is. Frustrated and not a critical thinker. I can't believe anyone would do such a thing.
I hope that makes it's way to Q headquarters and sits in their legal department.
You just said earlier that "the only thing that matters is the pps". AND your major argument on this board seems to always be the pr's. So, can we conclude that you equate pps with pr's? Yes or no. If there is no correlation, then why do you keep harping on it? Do you own any other positions? Do you critique their pr's? I've owned Intel for many years and I just sit back and let it do it's thing. I could care less what is in their pr. I can see your mind working now "but Q is not Intel". You are correct. They are a startup company... they are supposed to make mistakes. You think companies are perfect? You would be mistaken. Dam, you must be a perfectionist in life.
I'm putting you on ignore now. There is no talking to you.
I see you are still on about the pr's. Can you give that a rest now? According to your own logic, the pps should react to a good pr. Well the pps has not reacted even when the pr's have been great. What is your explanation for that? Furthermore, you have even conceded that some of these pr's are worthy. You are admitting that Q has come out with some solid info. Why is the pps going down after those come out? Is that Frank's fault too? You can't have it both ways, so shut you piehole.
Firefight, you are correct. People are greedy and they are impatient. In the beginning of my Q days, I was hoping for a quick score, but now I am in it for the long-term. It has been fun watching this company grow for the last year or so.
LongtheQ, this is my last reply on this topic... how do you know F.O.'s management style? Do you work with him? Have you seen the day-to-day operations? How dare someone criticize what they do not know. He has made enormous strides with Q. Why are you not happy? If pps is the only reason, then just say so.
BULL is the one that started all the ruckus about the A/S. That turned out to be a non-issue. It sent my radar going off the charts about him/her though. If BULL is a daytrader, he/she doesn't want to lose the gravy train. I get the impression he/she doesn't like Longs. IMO. :)
In a year from now, all of you that are so hyper-critical of Q management are going to look foolish. Where will you be then? Probably in another stock.
wah wah wah... Frank needs to live up to his promises... wahhhhh!!! boo hoo Frank has started a network that is on the air. What have you done?
Prince, you have no control over the situation, so why do you bitch about it?
Scottrade told me that my shares are mine. They are not allowed to be "loaned" out to anyone. It had something to do with it being a cash account. Anyway, they told me not to worry, that the shares are mine and no one can do anything with them.
emit, very good article. All the whining that goes on about how the PR's are not well-written, how F.O. lies to us... all that seems like it doesn't mean squat after you read that article. Until the majority of shareholders are longs, the MM's control every dam thing about this stock pps. It has very little to do with Q management. Open your eyes people. Anyone who thinks that this company has done a poor job of growing is out of their mind. It's a convenient excuse for a low pps, but the reality of the situation seems to be that MM's do control this stock for now.
why is the pps so low? where are the gmga host? where are my shoes? why is it so cold out? It's frank's fault I lost my shoes... and his fault it is so cold. Frank and the weather man. The weather guy said it would 55 today and it was 45. How dare they do that. If they say it is going to be 55, it should be 55. Dam them! I am not watching that channel anymore. Until they get it right of course... then I am back on board.
Why don't you call Q yourself and ask about the delay on the god dam host of GMGA. I am so sick of hearing people whine about the delay. Who the hell do you think is going to make it right? Someone on this board? Call for yourself and find out what the delay is. Personally, I don't give a rats ass who the host is. Just get someone good. As long as it takes...whatever it takes.
anyone know if Jenny McCarthy did a promo for Q at Sundance? A reliable person on the CBS board posted that and I would like confirmation from someone who can see/hear it.
Prince, according to your most recent logic you understand that this is a long-term company. At least that is why you must have referenced skunks. If you do understand that, then lay off the reporting stuff. They are not going to report anytime soon. Just enjoy the ride.
Oh my goodness, a two week delay. I better sell!!! haha You people won't be happy unless he has a god dam press conference in your bathroom.
I defy you to go back and show me a pattern of Frank Olsen NOT doing what he said he was going to do. Sure there are some delays, but by and large he has done what he has promised.
Are you aware that this is a pink sheet stock? It seems like you are missing that point. They don't have to report to the SEC. Why do you insist on them reporting? It is NOT going to happen right now.
From CBS board.... this is what should happen to the out and out bashers.
Universal Communication Systems, Inc. and Subsidiary AirWater Corporation, Together With Company Chairman Michael J. Zwebner, File an $18 Million Law Suit in United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida Against Internet Poster James Coughlin of San Diego, CA., Using Internet Alias "IrishJim44"
Company Identifies Anonymous Poster and Additional Law Suits to Follow for Each of the "John Does 1-25"
1/21/2005 4:01:07 PM
MIAMI, FL, Jan. 21, 2005 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Universal Communication Systems, Inc. (UCSY), its wholly owned subsidiary AirWater Corporation, as well as company chairman Michael Zwebner announced today that they have filed suit against James Coughlin, Internet alias "IrishJim44", for claims totaling the amount of $18 million. The law suit has been filed in Federal Court in the Southern District of Florida.in a statement issued today, Michael J. Zwebner said: "We have now filed suit against the first of a number of Internet posters who have conducted an unrelenting vicious and malicious evil on-line campaign against the companies and me for several years. We believe and allege, based on the actual posts, made that this defendant, as well as a number of co-conspirators, embarked on a deliberate and planned evil program of defamation, libel and the repeated publication of an unrelenting barrage of false information, false innuendoes and lies, all for personal illegal and immoral gain, and to cause maximum economic and commercial damage as well as severe emotional distress to myself. As we uncover more of the anonymous aliases and posters, we fully intend to take legal action against them."
In a further statement, Michael Zwebner said: "Defamation and the unrelenting libelous publication and knowingly posting and reposting of false and libelous information, is NOT protected under ANY US laws, even the First Amendment. This defendant, and a number of others, acted with extreme evil intent and malice, at all times hiding behind a supposedly anonymous Internet alias. We intend to aggressively pursue legal action, to uncover ALL the anonymous posters (aliases) who have engaged and continue to enact on-line defamation, and then take action and file applicable law suits against ALL these posters, however long it takes. We are very intent on actively pursuing this course of action, to bring these evil defendants to justice. Other Internet posters should seek legal advice BEFORE making wild, accusatory, false and defamatory statements on the Internet and elsewhere."
COMPANY RECEIVES MANY THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF DEFAMATORY AND ACCUSATORY DOCUMENTS VIA DISCOVERY FROM GOVERNMENT OFFICES.
The company also announced today that, following extensive discovery in recent litigation cases, the company is now privy to new information relating to illegal activities of a number of individuals posting on the Internet and making false accusatory reports to a number of Government Law Enforcement officials. In particular, the company, having issued a Public Records Request, Under Chapter 119, Fla. Stats, has received official copies of thousands of pages of emails, faxes and other communications all relating and revealing the large number of false complaints and filings made to a large number of both US and International Law Enforcement Agencies.
Mr. Zwebner stated: "It is totally incredible to uncover the unbelievable lengths and methods of deceit, lies and the issuances of false statements that these Internet posters / aliases went to, in their unrelenting attempts to cause severe economic damage to our companies and to myself as well as severe emotional distress. We are now aggressively dealing with them, one at a time."
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Finally you got something right... "Guess we all just have to take Frank’s word for it!!!"