Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
Patience is virtue
Yeah but it also can make you poorer..................
Another buying opportunity!!!
$.045 X $.049 - Time to load up the boat some more...VTSI shares are on sale AGAIN
Where's Cyber - please save us!!!!!
Pure Boilerplate
If you go to mgmt 101 this is pure boilerplate language - no timeframes - no details - nada. Energize the troops and shareholders - NOT
1) creation of a larger, stronger, more diversified corporate entity by staying the course and completing our previously-announced merger with Altatron EMS and Dynalyst;
2) aggressive increase in market exposure of our product-base by refocusing sales and marketing strategies;
3) continuation of new product development that profitably satisfies unmet
market needs, and expands sustainable competitive advantages;
4) identification of follow-on strategic acquisitions that further our
chief goal of increasing shareholder value by further solidifying our competitive advantages within the marketplace;
5) reduction of fiscal expenses, where possible, and careful refocus of resources on initiatives designed to generate sustainable revenue and achieve operational profitability.
"The entire company is energized, and will quickly implement key initiatives to successfully accomplish this plan. You can expect to soon see further corporate communications as we implement specific initiatives," Ferris concluded.
VTSI
Dead money....as the Dow and Nasdaq make new highs...Mutual funds - double digit gains.....
Sure is quiet - Q1 closed 3/31 - when are those results going to be announced????
Anyone?
Doug
I think he already did by saying he's learning on the job and needs to take night mgmt courses....
KP/Doug
"This insight would perhaps qualify some of the past issues and might help us understand. I don't recall having a former employee publicly post as such NOR express pro/con and *still* be considering VTSI as a possible investment!"
Well said - it is good to learn from the past
Dman - please advise - thanks in advance
DMan
What was the rank and file's opinion of L Kelly Jones?
Dman
You said: "Sorry I don't care about silly things like spelling I figure people can figure it out." You weren't lying - lol
"When I say Prototype Hackjob Im not saying it is of poor perfomance or quality more that it is nothing more than components slapped together. Well done might I add but in my opinion, and I was the only one who spoke that opion repeatedly, the system could have been designed with more professionalism. This is where these two companies come in. Virtra needs to outsource their manufacturing and have them build the same simulator but redesign with out using 8020 and a lot of the other Off-the-Shelf components they use. I could conceivably start my own simulator company and build an identicle simulator because only about 5-10% of their simulator involves custom made parts/software"
So much for paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for these gizmos....
"I just hope Bobs steps up to the plate and take some refresher managment courses" Safe to say Bob Ferris is not a Whartons's graduate or even has a BS in Mgmt
Dman - appreciate the insights
Bill
All opinions are valid - I have been right all along - so the value is obviously there.
Take care and be well
Barny
Anything Kelly has said in the past had to be divided by 10 to get the real truth...
Yo Bill
I was one who was on the same page as you! Plus it was plain as the nose on your face L Kelly was over his head.
Down to a nickel - Xrtx about to make a move again in the next few months from $30 a few days ago...
The statement from the ex employee speaks volumes - running on a string and L Kelly was not highly thought of - Ferris didn't exactly get a ringing endorsement either...
Cyber right again - TI?
NOT!!!!!!
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=5458711
TEXAS INSTRUMENTS
VTSI is all the BUZZ. Ask people who work in the TISP department.
David
You strike me as a guy who has seen the movie "Gone with the Wind" and the last line reminds me of you...
The plantation Tara is overrun and burns down...
Money is so tight - curtains are needed for dresses...
Scarlett loses a few husbands and at the end Rhett leaves her...
But no need to despair as Scarlett says "tommorrow is another day".....
The marriage of you and VTSI continues no matter how many times you get thrown down the stairs...
Take care
David
No surprise - he has an email at both companies....
What is he going to tell you? Haven't you heard enough doublespeak? You think he is going to say he was wrong? It's funny the company was his - from Brewery to today and he walks away? Doesn't make any sense.........
Good luck
Where's Greg????
I am sure he could call Kelly to get an update.....
OK Robo
What difference does it make....
It was .031 x .035 when I originally posted the price - the open was .082 at $.04 the price is cut in half and a pure "penny" stock.....
David
Doesn't make me happy - the writing has been on the wall for quite some time - you and others remained in denial for some unknown reason
Robo
the low was .031 x .035 - .04 is still pretty bad don't you think...
Just call me realtime.com
.035 X .04
OUCH!!!!!
This means.....
The price is going down - sell now boys - you'll see a few pennies sooon based on this news... .075 x .08 now
Someone who is still there better get something out to attempt to stop the bleeding. and don't you think Kelly is going to sell sell sell so he can get something for all his invested time as we have heard so many times before "L Kelly Jones has never sold a share of his stock"..........
GLTA and take care
Kelly and Kimberly
They can now go across the hall and work full time on the law practice...
So much for the company changing deal...
David you said: "If I thought, deep down, that Kelly's resignation as CEO would put the company in a better position to succeed I would not hesitate to lead the charge myself to oust him from his post. Kelly is still our best hope for Virtra as long as he understands what has happened in the past few years and can adjust the company's path to compensate for our lack of shareholder value. From my best estimates, the employees will follow him to the end, whether it be victory or death."
Sounds like he took your initial advice!!!!
Kelly Jones is out!
Resignation of Principal Officers and Director
On April 21, 2006, L. Kelly Jones resigned as chief executive officer and from the board of directors. Mr. Jones has served on the board since March of 1997. A copy of Mr. Jones’ resignation letter is attached as exhibit “99,” and is incorporated by reference.
In his resignation letter, Mr. Jones indicates that he strongly disagrees with a recent stratgeic decision adopted by the board, and that in light of this decision he does not believe he can lead the company in the direction the board has chosen.
On April 21, 2006, Kimberly Biggs resigned as secretary and treasurer of VTSI.
Item 9.01 Financial Statements and Exhibits.
Resignation Letter of L. Kelly Jones, dated April 21, 2006.
SIGNATURES
Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the Registrant has duly caused this Form 8-K to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.
VIRTRA SYSTEMS, INC.
(Registrant)
By:
/s/ Steven Haag
Steven Haag
Vice President, Investor Relations
Dated: April 24, 2006
April 21, 2006
Bob Ferris, president
VirTra Systems, Inc.
5631 South 24 th Street
Phoenix, Arizona 85040
Mr. Andrew Wells
CapNet Partners, LLP
2500 City West Boulevard, suite 700
Houston, Texas 77042
re: resignation
Gentlemen:
As we discussed, I strongly disagree with the strategic decision adopted today by the board. I believe it fails to take advantage of our company’s opportunities, and is not the course most likely to maximize value to our shareholders.
In light of this decision, I do not believe that I can lead the company in the direction the board has chosen. I am therefore resigning as chief executive officer and from the board of directors, effective immediately.
It has been my great privilege to work with you and the fine employees of our company since our merger five years ago. Despite the current military procurement situation, I believe we have successfully addressed the vast number of issues presented to us over the years.
Although no longer part of the management team, as the company’s current largest shareholder, I will continue to work with you in your efforts to maximize the value for our shareholders.
Very truly yours,
L. Kelly Jones
David
Employees do not follow anyone "to the death" - they will stay as long as they get paid - note the raises in salaries over the past few years.
Oh and Kelly "hasn't sold any shares" but he sure has given himself nice salary increases. Plus doesn't he draw a salary from his law practice they "rent" their office space from yet do not have to pay for....
Your loss is your hard earned $$$$$$$$
Barnabus
You said: "Im actually sitting here having a hard time thinking of anything that really has gone according to plan in the last three years..Mexico deal, the company changing deal, new hires..anything."
One more thing that did not go according to plan was Kelly's promise of profitability
Bylo Cellhi right all along - a fast talking lawyer way over over his head playing CEO with your money....
L Kelly Jones
"Let's just admit it. Sometimes we do well, and sometimes we don't. Sometimes our calculated decisions make us look like a tree full of owls, and sometimes our performance misses the mark, and we disappoint ourselves, and more importantly, our shareholders. Judging by our share performance, a lot of you have already "fired" us, and perhaps you should have, based upon our financial performance"
Wow - the man continues to provide proof he is way over his head. So much for CEO material....
The selloff will continue today - with the lack of posts from the previous cheerleaders it looks they have packed it in. Sir Felix looks like the only one who is going to ride this one to the end...
GLTA - market up big yesterday after news of rate hike stops and will go up again today on IBM's great qtr....
David
And you get to divide your shares by the amount of the reverse split....
What it the rate? 1 for 5 ..... 1 for 8 - higher?
Convertible Debentures
During February 2005 and August 2005 the Company issued $750,000 and $500,000, respectively, in convertible debentures. The debentures bear interest at 8% per year payable in cash or registered common stock at the Company’s option. The debentures mature in February and August 2008 and are convertible, at the option of the holder, to shares of the company’s common stock at a conversion price per share equal to the lower of (i) 80% of the lowest closing bid price for the common stock for the fifteen days prior to the conversion date; or (ii) 125% of the volume weighted average price on the closing date.
In addition the Company issued to the holders of the convertible debentures warrants to purchase 750,000 and 500,000 shares of the Company’s common stock (See Note 15). In accordance with generally accepted accounting principles, the Company allocates the proceeds received from debt or convertible debt with detachable warrants or shares of common stock using the relative fair value of the individual elements at the time of issuance. Using the Black-Scholes valuation model, the Company has determined the aggregate value of the 750,000 warrants to be $117,427 (approximately $0.16 per warrant) and the value of the 500,000 warrants to be $48,655 (approximately $0.10 per warrant). The amount allocated to the warrants as debt discount has been recognized as additional interest expense over the period from the date of issuance of the note to the earlier of the conversion date or the stated maturity date. During the year ended December 31, 2005, the Company recognized $94,253 in interest expense related to the accretion of the debt discount recorded on these convertible debentures. As of December 31, 2005, the remaining balance of the debt discount was $71,829.
In accordance with generally accepted accounting principles, in the event the conversion price on debentures is less than the Company’s stock price on the date of issuance, the difference is considered to be a beneficial conversion feature and is amortized as interest expense over the period from the date of issuance to the earlier of the conversion date or the stated maturity date. The Company has calculated the aggregate beneficial conversion feature of these convertible debentures to be $398,677 on the $750,000 debentures and $140,760 on the $500,000 debentures. During the year ended December 31, 2005, the Company recognized $312,095 in interest expense related to the amortization of the beneficial conversion feature recorded on these convertible debentures. As of December 31, 2005 the remaining balance of the beneficial conversion feature was $227,341.
Accured Liabilities
Included in accrued liabilities as of December 31, 2005 is as follows:
Accrued payroll tax, including penalties and interest
$810,188
Accrued property tax $55,133
Accrued interest payable $322,279
Deferred revenue $97,095
Accrued commissions payable $33,258
Other $9,749
$1,327,702
Notes Payable
Notes payable consist of the following at December 31, 2005:
Note payable to a bank, bearing interest at 7.75% per year and due in monthly payments of $8,520 including interest, through May 31, 2006, at which time the monthly payment amount will increase as agreed upon with the bank at that time. This note is collateralized by land and a building. $773,933
Notes payable to a bank, bearing interest at 7.5% per year and due in monthly payments of $9,750, including interest, through May 31, 2006, at which time the monthly payment amount will increase as agreed upon with the bank at that time. These notes are collateralized by certain equipment, licensing rights and by the personal guarantees of officers/stockholders of the Company. $255,466
Notes payable to third party entities and individuals, who did not elect to exchange the debt for common stock (See Note 9), bearing interest at a stated rate of 10% payable semi- annually with principal due three years after issuance of the note, which ranged from October 2001 to March 2002. These notes are not collateralized. In connection with the funding of these notes, the former Ferris issued a total of 412,500 shares of its common stock as equity attachments to the note holders and to pay debt issuance costs. Accordingly, the actual weighted average interest rate on these notes, including the effect of the issuance of common stock and the payment of debt issuance costs, was approximately 16%. No interest or principal has been paid on these notes during the year ended December 31, 2005. $66,500
Total notes payable $1,095,899
Certain notes payable to banks contain various financial and non-financial covenants, which require the Company, among other things, to maintain certain levels of stockholders’ equity and to comply with certain financial ratios. The Company was in violation of these covenants as of December 31, 2005 and the banks could demand full payment of all principal and interest.
Legal Proceedings
Looks like Kelly lost this one
On May 13, 2004, suit was filed against us in the federal district court of South Carolina, in cause number 04CP402455, styled Garland and Leota Slagle v. VirTra Systems, Inc. , seeking payment of the principal sum of $90,000, plus accrued interest, in equipment leases allegedly entered into by the Slagles with the former Ferris Productions, Inc. in 2001. We have contested the allegations. The parties are currently in settlement discussions.
On December 30, 2004, suit was filed against us in the federal district court of North Carolina, in cause number 4:04-CV-199-H2, styled Edward and Linda Strickland v. VirTra Systems, Inc. , seeking payment in the principal sum of $72,000, plus accrued interest, in equipment leases allegedly entered into by Mr. Strickland with the former Ferris Productions, Inc. 2001. We contested the allegations. In February of 2006, we entered into an agreed judgment in the amount of $85,000, with a contractual provision in the judgment that there would be no collection activity on the judgment prior to February of 2007.
All
"In 2005, we paid the price for some poor assumptions and calculations -- chief among them our strategic decision to direct our focus on breaking into the market with the U.S. military. We were listening to training officers and other apparent decision makers who were repeatedly telling us of their intent to give us large orders, but we weren't sufficiently insightful to gauge the procurement effect of the protracted war in Iraq and Afghanistan on funds available for training"
Other companies like Lockheed Martin received purchase orders...by the way whatever happened to the big Mexico deal that many relied on and bought the stock based on the PR?
Shareholders were led to believe the big one was coming but very little to show for it but salary increases for mgmt!!!!!!!!!
Greg
What do you think? Your opinion of 2005?
Soooooooo
What do you think? - sounds like alot of mumbo jumbo to me...plus so much for profitability - lost ($1.6M) on $977K in revenue. OUCH
"Although market fluctuations, particularly in governmental
procurement, have impacted our projections to-date, we believe our corporate strategy of diversifying revenue through complementary acquisitions, coupled with preserving the pent-up training demand, is the right strategy for the long- term benefit of our shareholders. Everyone within the company remains devoted to this objective"
"Total revenue reported for the year was $977,358, down 26% compared to $1,328,180 one year ago. Net loss for 2005 was $1,995,056, or $(0.03) per share, compared to net profit of $1,612,569, or $0.03 per share, in 2004."
KP
We are talking about Q4 2005! It is now April 17th - Q1 is already behind us as well. It was a cryptic reply and he did not even answer your question..... Professional CEO's do not show their hand - the response is one of a desparate man IMHO.....
From L Kelly Jones:
From KP's post....
"Not much time, as I'm in the midst of "auditor hell" at the moment. These guys are killing me, but that's a story for another time. All I can/should say for now is that it's a thinly-held secret that elimination of the Dutchess overhang is a company priority. I don't know what VMC did, and it doesn't matter to me/us. Regardless of how many shares they have outstanding, they'll only receive a % of the merged company's shares. Sorry for the brevity -- received another e-mail from the auditors. --Kelly Jones
Are you kidding me? Sounds like he's got some splainin to do to the auditors. I can't believe a CEO of a public company would respond in this manner. Ya think this guy is over his head? Ouch
Oh and the rest of the shareholders will "only receive a % of the merged company's shares" after the reverse split
Trying to resolve the Dutchess overhang - gee what a surprise....
5Cap
Your're delusional - one account only BYLO and though I have respect for my elders I am not 70 - runningbrook - nah - you're all wet...
Buy more??? Oh yeah - it's a Stong Buy at this point...
Runningbrook
Not sure why you would reply to a Jan 06 message versus creating a new one. But at under $.09 things are not looking good. Looks like the sharp tongued lawyer got more than you in this money losing company...
I hope for your sake the price goes from runningbrook to raging river versus the babblingbrook it is now....
Looks like the company has gone into a bunker so much for the most communicative ceo in america as he has been described by the previous faithful...
Weo/All
The filing for FYE 12/31 should be simple - $1M company - have had 3 months to do it....
Why late?
99.9999% - most thought there was a 99.9999% chance it would be filed on time - so much for that logic - lol
FATS?
You said: "if Virtra is so is FATS?"
I don't think so FATS filed their 10K for 12/31 on 2/14
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/060214/fats.ob10-q.html