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You stated the acquisition of Monk's Den as a cause of the run up to the 0.40s.
Run started August 26th. Monk's Den acquisition was announced September 15th. Monk's Den forum opened October 15th. Therefore, at the time of the run up, Monk's Den was neither acquired, nor a separate forum.
When you have something substantial, perhaps I'll entertain it. But probably not since it has no bearing on whether or not I let go of my shares.
It just occurred to me that lots of people can't post here now because they have free memberships. For all those people, just know that support is not gone. In fact, it is stronger than it has ever been because the smaller and weaker hands have already folded. Plus, thanks to our discussions offsite, we are much more educated on the issues surrounding the FLDs.
If you're still hanging on for the original reason you came here, keeping hanging on. Our greatest weapon is our shares, and we have lots of them. They will attack the companies and attack Monk and attack our friends, family, and us. But none of those can force us to press that sell button, and that is the only goal they have.
Here, let me break that list down for you:
Your examples of manipulation UP:
- Monk's Den
It's an iHub forum that was consistently listed on the iHub home page. That's not manipulation.
- Slap the Ask
Many bought at ask, many bought at bid, many bought at both. That's not manipulation.
- Remember the Family/Den
We are close and educated. We are more than aliases. Our resolve grows daily in these tumultuous times. This is why we're strong and not letting go of our shares. That is not manipulation.
- Monkinars
Educational seminars on trading. That is not manipulation, and if you've never been to one, you have zero grounds for argument.
- Questionable PRs (accuracy and adequacy)
Possible attempts at manipulation by the company. However, everytime a major PR was released, it's been met with a declining share price. Therefore, unsuccessful manipulation at most.
- Obnoxious dividend
Another possible attempt at manipulation, but price declined yet again upon announcement. You state this as a cause of run to 0.40s yet the run happened way before the dividend. Therefore, incorrect again.
Now, let me show you examples of manipulation DOWN:
Level 2 - Tick by tick recordings that show buys knocking out the ask and then the ask downticking. Again and again and again. The amount of recordings retained is indisputable evidence of unbalanced supply and demand.
Accumulation/Distribution Line: Until recently, it showed line going up while price going down. This is not natural technical movement, as it should loosely resemble the price. Indisputable short interest manipulation.
Onslaught of saviors/bashers: Certain people all show up at once, posting 24/7, denouncing every detail, as soon as this thing appears to blow wide open. Their attitudes towards us are not ones of benevolence, yet they say they are here to help. They claim not to have a dog in the fight, yet here they are, day in and day out. Do these people have any time left to work? Or are they working now? Being that motive is the number one factor in any situation, even without details, this is indisputable attempts at manipulation as well.
I couldn't care less what your agenda here is. I also couldn't care less what EIGH does or any other company that has been abusively naked shorted. I also don't really care that you and others never bring a real argument to the table. By all means, continue to use your own posts as facts, but it doesn't change anything. And if you actually think you're fooling people, please post until your fingers fall off.
Our shares are our biggest asset and we're not letting go.
I don't know historical precedents for post-suspension opens, but that scenario sounds reasonable. We were discussing that possibility earlier so it won't come unexpected.
Sorry to hear about your loss. It's such a hard thing to do, but better than letting them suffer.
I can't believe GM is getting so much attention right now. Ford should be getting every single minute of auto industry coverage for not taking a bailout and rebuilding on their own.
They wear their agenda on their sleeve. It doesn't take much digging to see that their motive is very clear: to scare shareholders into selling and keep their naked shorting business concealed. What we see are just front line infantry. There are people directing them, and people directing them, and people directing them, and people funding the whole operation.
Sure has. I for one am very proud of being on this side.
They hate us. They have a hatred that runs so deep they can't even pretend to contain it. They hate us because we've exposed not just one of the most criminal practices in the financial market, but because they have known for over a year now about our fight and they've done nothing to stop it. It's a failure on their part to contain it when they had the chance.
They are trying to create in-fighting among the Den. Well, imagine the in-fighting going on in their snake pit right now. Some of us have thousands of dollars on the line, but they have billions.
We sit patiently and wait. Time is on our side.
You'd have to have a thick skin to be able to handle IR for penny stocks.
I think Stephen Taylor is the IR guy for GRNO isn't he?
I believe that in defining times, good triumphs over evil, and this is one of those defining times. We have a collision of new vs. old, a strong leader, and a strong following. We continue to grow in size, knowledge, and dedication. We can not fail.
I don't know about that, but these investments sure aren't making me feel any younger. Wiser, but definitely not younger. Soon enough though, soon enough.
Hi Sid! You trading Forex tonight?
Den, it is absolutely admirable how unflinching everyone has been through the past couple weeks. This is why we work together. Knowledge is power, and fear mongering only works on the poorly educated. I'm proud to be part of such a great group of investors. I just wish I had found all of you earlier. :)
People who insult you on a daily basis are not here to save you. Our resolve is increasingly threatening to them and it shows in the desperation in their posts.
EIGH Dividend Fact:
The dividend that EIGH offered was dependent on the price staying above 10 cents per share. On October 14th, the price declined to a point where it broke below that 0.10 threshold. Twenty minutes later, the PR was released that the dividend was cancelled.
Granted, there was no 1:10 shares dividend issued, but we all know that that would have been counter productive to exposing the naked short position. I don't know why exactly they offered that possibility, nor do I know how they planned to pay it.
But it should be clear that the timing of the cancellation PR coincides EXACTLY with the 0.10 threshold they announced. Also, add in the fact that the dividend did go through for a lot of people, including me, shows that the procedures for it were completed and it wasn't just a ruse.
Yes sir. Our strength has shone through thus far and I don't see any sign of it stopping. If anything, every keeps talking about buying more shares.
My thoughts exactly. They are like gnats that you can't swat. And they owe you money.
You got that right. It's going to cost a lot of money to get me to sell my shares. And I know plenty more who share the same sentiment. And these people collectively own more than the float on three different stocks. Shouldn't have naked shorted so extensively and it wouldn't be an issue. But they did, and here we are.
I hear that. I felt the exact same way after the Atlanta Monkinar.
Hahaha! That makes complete sense. Abusive NSS is only absent on the least regulated market. Probably just a nice gesture from our MM and hedge fund friends.
Yowzers, that's a marathon. You should catch lots of overlapping markets though.
A few more hours before the Forex starts hoppin!
If that isn't proof of NSS, I don't know what is. If there were audits of CDIV and GRNO, I'm sure you'd see the same thing.
Seeing this through to the end, adding when I can.
I own phantom shares of EIGH. None of my brokerage accounts were listed in the EIGH newsletter, yet the totals from their audit add up to the O/S correctly. I know a bunch of other people whom also could not find their accounts in the list.
I am a proud owner of shares that are not real, and contributing my part to the huge naked short problem the hedgies and MMs face.
Have you looked for yours on there yet?
Sure is! Just reminding folks. It's easy to get caught up in noise about stuff that has no impact on our positions, as much as some people would like us to believe it does.
A new week is almost here and the hedge funds and market makers are still hundreds of millions of shares short. As long as we hold our shares, nothing else matters. Not charts, not fundamentals, nothing. We hold the shares, we have the final say, end of story.
And you're supposed to say, "What? There's no F in way!" And I say, you're right, there's no F'in way.
It gets funnier with time. :)
Yeah, I think CNBC overblows the weakness of the dollar. The whole world is weak right now which means we're not that much different. With the euro seemingly falling now, it just makes us appear that much stronger from a confidence standpoint.
You take the S out of safe, and the F out of way.
How do you fit an elephant in a Safeway bag?
Yes sir, I'm fairly happy with it. I'm using Monk's rules with some minor adjustments for Forex, and I know exactly where I made my mistakes.
I do believe that once my accuracy improves, the 24 hour market and high leverage will make it quite profitable. Also, without the $25,000 requirement, it is an opportunity for all of us to bridge the gap until we can day trade.
He's still around, but doesn't post on this board since he has his own subscription one now. However, he's still teaching classes, answering questions, and calling chart plays.
Have fun in Chicago all you future Denizens! The chart master is a great teacher and accurate with pens! And when the weekend is over and you're ready to trade live or on paper, we're all here to combine our knowledge and do it together!
Scan results from this week with percentage change from day it made the list:
WNC $9.10
Day 1: $9.43, 3.63%
Day 2: $9.24, 1.54%
Day 3: $8.99, -1.21%
Day 4: $8.64, -5.05%
Day 5: $8.71, -4.29%
EGLE $5.38
Day 1: $5.45, 1.30%
Day 2: $5.45, 1.30%
Day 3: $5.67, 5.39%
Day 4: $5.71, 6.13%
Day 5 :$5.51, 2.42%
ICO $6.39
Day 1: $6.30, -1.41%
Day 2: $6.39, 0.00%
Day 3: $6.53, 2.19%
Day 4: $6.12, -4.23%
SBIB $5.98
Day 1: $5.90, -1.34%
Day 2: $6.27, 4.85%
Day 3: $6.24, 4.35%
Day 4: $6.13, 2.51%
Scans are for one to five day swing trades using a rigid rule set. Many days yield one or no results from the scan. Stocks are not tracked after five days, nor are entry and exit points during the five days.
Time running: 2 weeks
Stocks scanned: 8
Stocks with positive gains: 8
Minimum gain: 2.19%
Maximum gain: 18.13%
Up 23% on the week for Forex. And...I broke the rules twice today. Again. Should have ended 37%. So all in all, I am up 18.4% in my first week and a half of Forex. It's manageable considering how many mistakes I've made. At least four substantial ones so far. Monk would be chucking pens at me right now.
Yeah they are doing alright. Been trading live in Forex for about a week and a half now. Happy with the results, but it is extremely grueling. Also been honing a swing trade scan which so far has produced some good 1-5 day results.
Definitely been using this FLD downtime for the positive.
Real rocky. Gotta stay on bigger timeframes. USD/JPY just broke out of a daily trend that's been going on since May so it's having an effect on all the other pairs. The USD has been gaining a lot of strength lately.