Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
LOL ..... I assume you talkin' Step Brothers .... LOL.
Oh ZWorldwide is a "thing" but I still think it is a nothing burger relative to where ZIVO needs to be in the ingredient marketplace. It's ok to start with but ..... needs to be much more than that. What if chicken fails again eh ?
I still think chicken news is after labor day. So not really expecting anything before then ... unless if course it is this Friday ... after market close. And we all know what that would be.
Amigo Mike
Tony,
Are you referencing ZWorldwide ? ZWorldlwide is a Miami Beach marketing company that doesn't even have an address of it's own. It's address is a shared office space. So basically that are likely not much more than a marketer/drop shipper.
That isn't a subsidiary of ZIVO. ZivoLife is the subsidiary
Amigo Mike
CWard,
Yes it is fairly quiet. 6900 shares so far doesn't reflect any level of confidence that a close happened last week.
Ah to buy or not to buy ..... hmmmmmm ..... got dry powder but ..... this is ECSL. LOL. Junior MMs liking .7251 though.
Amigo Mike
No Worries TKS,
My advice is to improve .... your choice ... of reading and leverage Ihub tools for things that have no value.
It's already been proven what I said in black and white. Some are just too stupid to comprehend and twist it to fit their bashing.
Amigo Mike
CWard,
Hence my comment early in the week on follow through ... and ECSL isn't really interesting unless it moves above 85 cents with some action. Got 80 cents yesterday .... but .... here was are.
You should know by now not to believe anything you see here beyond those statements backed up with fact or properly reasoned. That basically tosses out 99.5% of posts on ECSL give or take a few. =)
My opinion is still the same as last week ..... I think days .... and would be more inclined to buy vs sell ECSL today ..... however would note that I have done neither of late.
Still wondering who buys ECSL on the Lorton deal closing.
Amigo Mike
Oh boy !!!
It's 80 cents on the close.
Amigo Mike
Well,
At least there is a nice bid for ECSL this morning.
Amigo Mike
Appears to be some but volume is diddly.
Tis not I ..... as I don't wanna pay that much. Could certainly be pennywise ..... pound foolish decision ...... but don't wanna turn into bagholder on a swing trade if at all possible. Of course you pay your money and what happens ... happens .... so regardless of buy price could still end up on the wrong side of trade. But 1.80ish seems to be the floor for the time being outside of market sales dumps.
The Nasdaq order book is very thin on the bid .... the Edge order book has multiple 500 share bids between 1.77 (1200) and 1.85 .... so someone has some bids lined up to buy under the market if there is a market sell.
Amigo Mike
M1Maggot,
Sure did look better .... but .....
Rather tepid start after yesterday .... with action into the close .... only 2500 shares so far today. Minimal bid support.
Can't say that I'm surprised. We shall see what the rest of the day brings.
Amigo Mike
Slojab,
But nearly all the buying was at $.77 or above. Agree. But we've seen this before.
As I've been saying, ECSL not really interesting til above 85 cents which constitutes breaking above 2 years of churning. Next interesting level is $1.00.
Do we see either this week ? =)
Amigo Mike
M1Maggot,
At least some positive action today on improved volume. Didn't make 80 cent mark today but some buying nonetheless. We shall see what tomorrow brings.
Don't worry about the clueless stuff. Nobody knows who owns shares or who is clueless. Grain of salt.
Amigo Mike
General,
Would be nice to see a close at 85 cents or above with the added volume. At least 80 cents to start with.
ECSL not very interesting until that first baby hurdle is achieved as 85 cents is a 2 year new high.
So ... who is gonna make it happen ?
Amigo Mike
Yup,
Agree.
But the dumps can potentially get you a price that you may not be able to get. Tossing in a stink bid under the market and getting hit vs sitting on the bid ... waiting at a higher price.
Payne has been a communication fail. But that can be overcome with execution. So far I believe he's executed with the exception of the first chicken fail. Dunno if I can directly pin that on him .... but he's back at the table with a new test with a major animal pharma .... having learned from the first. We all think under the proper conditions the chicken candidate works. Soooooooooooo .... tis a matter of when at this point.
Contemplating.
Amigo Mike
Yeah .... that has a little bit a ... "smell" .... to it ..... but could be any number of different type situations.
Could be institutions selling still from Russell index drop. Bag holder from pumps. Longtimer fed up. You name it.
Amigo Mike
Welp,
Sort of looks like ZIVO may not be seeing that $1.50 mark that I previously was targetting.
I "may" consider trying to pick off some swing shares in 1.70 to 1.80s area ..... which would be solely for speculating on positive chicken results and then potential for chicken license with a major animal pharma that would surely bring positive volume and price movement.
What I don't have a feel for .... assuming positive chicken results ..... I assume then time needed to negotiate license. I don't think both would happen at same time or even in relatively close proximity but I could be mistaken on that. Either way with positive chicken results and mention moving to license stage ..... stock should move up.
Considering ..........
Amigo Mike
General,
I have no specific info ... so I can't say with any certainty.
My opinion ... soon is ..... any day now.
I don't believe I've offered any timeline for when would be too long for me. As long as my due dilly leads me to think Lorton Deal is in progress and being worked .... I will likely stick it out. If anything changes in that regard, I will react accordingly.
Today for example, were I inclined to take action in ECSL stock ... I would be more inclined to buy it ... vs sell it.
Amigo Mike
LOL Slojab,
Good one !!
Amigo Mike
Slojab,
Some know everything ... isn't that obvious ? Figured ya knew that already ? LOL
Some even know who owns shares and who don't !!! Imagine that eh ?
I'm sure everyone would be THRILLED if ECSL hit $5. Doubt it happens when described (drop name of hydrogen company) but today's markets are whacked and anything can happen. Are locked up and overstocked longs gonna buy the news ??? I sure would like to see ECSL blast off .... move up to $1.50ish on Lorton deal .... then sharp uptick as news is released on partners and other deals. Where that uptick goes is anyone's guess. But locked up longs need to hold strong to help to achieve those heights.
The big question is .... how long ..... locked up longs are gonna hold onto their stock ? Surely there are some that are itching to simply get their money back or to make a buck finally
I see ECSL on the hot list again due to worthless clickbait. If one were to want new investors speculating on ECSL .... you'd typically wanna offer information of value while people are looking. Common sense. Save 1 or 2 posts not much here worth a hill of beans. Also failing to mention ticker .... ya want that "cloud buzz" too for da pump.
Anyway, I'm still in the camp ..... Lorton deal is still on ..... and I think it closes sooner than the typical "ECSL" soooooooooon. Afterall ... it is "eminent" as of a month ago ... well ... 2 months ago now if considering credible external info !! =)
Amigo Mike
Gwinner,
Of course .... chickens are a big deal as is USDA oversight. And presumably a positive test result will yield a license with a major animal health company. Would change the landscape for ZIVO.
JMHO .... and I have no basis in fact to draw from but think chicken news will be after Labor Day.
Again .... JMHO.
Amigo Mike
Weazel,
Ah .... welp .... Payne is still what..... 20 months ...... at the helm.
Payne got ZIVO to commercial stage with Alimenta and ZWorldwide. In 18 months or so. Dahl was "working with" Alimenta going back years prior to his dismissal and with GRAS in 2018 I think it was .... he didn't make it happen.
Payne got USDA oversight approval and tests with major animal health company for chickens. Following up on Dahl. Dahl dicked around with Zoetis for cows for or I dunno .... 7 or 8 years ...... got involved with Nutriquest for chickens that seemed to fall off the map. BTW ... My understanding is Payne got ZIVO into the Zoetis deal. Despite repeated positive tests ..... nothing. Slow as molasses.
Anyway, other than incredibly poor communications ..... for 20 months .... and .... assuming a positive chicken outcome .... things are looking up. The stock of course is not looking up. But that's my story, buy when everyone else isn't looking.
Amigo Mike
Weasel,
Getting closer to my guess of $1.50. And I don't think chicken news is immediately upon us.
Guess no one is excited ZWorldwide is buying all the supply for the next 18 months. All that sez to me is Alimenta isn't getting ramped.
Amigo Mike
So,
How many of ya have jumped on the launch of Zivolife ?
$100 for 1 3.5oz (100 gram) bag which contains about a month supply assuming 1 teaspoon per day. That sound about right ?
1 kilo is gonna be 10 bags. 24,000 kilos is gonna be 240,000 bags or about a monthly supply for 20,000 people. 20,000 x $100 = $2 million.
Is my math correct ?
Amigo Mike
General,
It is as I've stated from the beginning. Deal doesn't close til everyone ELSE comes to the table to make it happen. That is ... and has been the story.
Let's say ECSL had $30 mil in cash on hand 2 years ago. Deal would have closed long time ago. Only ECSL would have need to be satisfied of the viability of the properties along with any title transfer questions.
But, besides ECSL stock, the rest is someone else's money who will have a lien on the property and in order to assess value and get paid ..... lender gotta be satisfied. That doesn't happen without all the issues addressed ..... and an actual business plan that supports lending $30 million and understanding how and when ECSL will pay back loan. ECSL has no money .... so it isn't like they can make monthly mortgage payments to the lender once the purchase is completed right ? I'm gonna assume some of the $30 million is for build and working capital cuz the properties themselves are not worth $30 million and then there are 2 businesses that mgmt has seen fit not to offer shareholders any info on as it relates to revenues/earnings potential.
So ... it is as has always been. Common sense. I'm actually glad there is a lender involved although I think the fees are excessive base on what ECSL has stated ..... cause you have a 3rd party putting their money on the line that needs to be satisfied this isn't another fly by night situation.
As to when this Lorton deal closes, I am in the camp that it is soooooon. And not your typical ECSL ... sooooooon ...... =) One step at a time.
Amigo Mike
LOL,
Nah .... too busy avoiding communication and when they do ... welp ..... it's pretty non descript.
But hey Zworldwide has committed to purchase all the supply for the next 18 months and at least 24,000 kilos of ZivoLife ! Whatever that means and at what revenues / margin to ZIVO eh ?
A positive ... don't get me wrong .... but can't extrapolate anything from the information provided.
Volume so far today ... 78 shares .... ROFLMAO. Market loves the news !!!
Amigo Mike
ZIVO Announces Commitment by ZWorldwide to Purchase all Zivolife™ Algal Biomass Product Produced Over the Next 18 Months
DOWNLOAD AS PDFAUG 16, 2023
ZWorldwide Commits to Minimum Annual Volume Purchases for Five Years
ZIVO’s Partner Alimenta Expects to Have Significantly Expanded Production Capacity Fully Operational in 2025 to Meet Projected Demand
BLOOMFIELD HILLS, Mich.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Zivo Bioscience, Inc. (NASDAQ: ZIVO) (“ZIVO” or the “Company”), a biotech/agtech R&D company engaged in the development of therapeutic, medicinal and nutritional product candidates derived from proprietary algal cultures, today provided an update on the commercialization of Zivolife, its proprietary algal biomass as a food or food ingredient.
Following strong initial sales, ZWorldwide, an independent distributor with exclusive rights to the Zivolife product in North America, informed ZIVO that as part of its commercial agreement it will purchase the entire supply of Zivolife produced for the first 18 months. Additionally, subject to certain contingencies, for each of the next five years including the commitment for the initial 18-month period, ZWorldwide has committed to purchasing at least 24,000 kilograms of product.
“With the successful introduction of Zivolife to the green powder market and sales agreements locked in, we are now actively working with ZWorldwide to drive commercial success and with our contract cultivation partner, Alimenta Algae, to increase production volumes. ZIVO has the know-how to cultivate our proprietary algal biomass in far greater volumes, and we are pursuing plans to increase capacity as rapidly as possible,” said John Payne, CEO and Chairman of ZIVO Bioscience.
ZIVO is collaborating with Alimenta Algae SAC (“Alimenta Algae”) to repurpose their prior microalgae facility into a larger and more efficient cultivation and processing facility that, once completed, is expected to have the ability to produce up to 100,000 kilograms of dried product per year. The new facility is anticipated to be fully operational in the second or third quarter of 2025. Under the terms of its supply agreement, Alimenta has committed to ZIVO that it will make the necessary investments to the cultivation ponds and to downstream processing. Alimenta Algae is the microalgae subsidiary of Grupo Alimenta, a global, multi-generational, family-run agribusiness with headquarters in Lima, Peru.
“With the key elements of a commercial strategy in place, we now have a manufacturing plan that is capable of meeting the demand we’re projecting for Zivolife in this initial market entry. I am optimistic about the future of ZIVO and the consumer uptake of our algal biomass product. Increasing production volume, our primary focus, is a direct path to increasing sales, and we are delighted to announce the significant upgrades Alimenta will be making to their aquaculture facility,” added Mr. Payne.
Zivolife is natural, non-GMO and a high source of plant-based protein, naturally occurring beta glucan and fiber. ZIVO’s dried microalgae is a source of essential amino acids, polyphenols, iron, potassium and vitamins A, E and B12. Zivolife supports digestive and gut health and helps to support a healthy immune system. It has a mild taste compared with other microalgae and has been tested as shelf stable for up to two years. Zivolife is 100% made from ZIVO’s proprietary microalgae. For more information about ZWorldwide and Zivolife, please visit www.zivo.life.
Zivolife is cultivated at a single-source, sustainable aquaculture facility in the foothills of the Peruvian Andes Mountains using proprietary cultivation processes developed in partnership with ZIVO. The partnership has established quality-control testing at facilities in Ica, Peru, Ft. Myers, Florida and certified third-party laboratories. Zivolife will initially be available in limited quantities as ZIVO scales up production. For more information about Grupo Alimenta, please visit www.alimenta.pe.
Just as expected ..... Ihub went off the rails ...... changing guidelines again. Shocking.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172601032
Amigo Mike
Good post General,
Good links to have. IMO ... it's time to close this Lorton deal.
What with insurance and escrow situation, there aren't any more excuses for the lender. 3rd party lawyer letter also telling.
So it is time to get it done. Plus IR spouting about JV partners in town last week to finalize contract there. Puzzle pieces should be in place.
Amigo Mike
LOL,
42,500 shares on the offer at .68 to start the day.
Amigo Mike
That's right Cward,
Seems rather obvious ..... a lawyer ... who certainly should be considered a credible source .... sending notice to FDEP informing of a sale of the property expected for June 16th. Lorton Lawyer, trustee of estate and named corporate officer of Lorton's company Port Tampa Storage also CC'd as well (Langford). I am actually SUPPORTING the notion that this deal is ongoing as has been my position all along. BTW, the lawyer who authored the letter is an expert on environmental issues and commercial real estate sales involving these types of properties.
But if you take into account Lawrences' updates .... points at lender concerns (complex condition). Not my words .... Lawrence's words.
Bottomline, I'd take the written notice of a lawyer over ... say .... anonymous internet posters claiming there is no deal. I'd like to think there is an update from Lawrence in the not too distant future.
June 2nd
Finally looks like IVFH is turning the corner and ready to move ahead.
Ah .... what quality mgmt brings to the table eh ? A breath of fresh air.
Might have to start dipping toe into this name again.
Amigo Mike
In the interest of all,
Been asked by several folks what info is out there that I referenced the other day on ECSL and why I still think this deal is in progress. To that end, this is just one puzzle piece and is public information available from the Florida Department of Environmental Protection.
https://prodenv.dep.state.fl.us/DepNexus/public/facilitysearch
This should take you direct to the facility named BP Oil Company located at 5581 Commerce Street .... which is the main parcel in the Lorton deal where the prior terminal buildout animations show the fuel terminal being built on. If the link just takes you to the search feature, the Facility ID to search is 8625775.
On the search result page for this site on the far right under "Data Links" are a couple of letters that are explained in the key at top left. I'd encourage everyone to click the letter "D" which will take you to all the historical documents for the property. As I previously stated, this has been a state designated environmental site for a long time and been monitored for years. I never said there were "soil issues" on the property, just that some expectation of cleanup and recent elevated contamination levels (all in the docs) and reco's for additional wells for monitoring of the site. Lawrence updates clearly indicate environmental "concerns" as part of reason this deal hasn't closed. Not my words. Lawrence's words.
Anyway, been watching this site for a while .... and if you are so inclined you can look through the more recent docs to see what the State has recorded for inspections on the property and other communications with contractors.
I have maintained from day 1 I thought this deal with Lorton was legit and still being worked. Never once said otherwise. To cut to the chase .... I'd simply point you to the most recent document in June. You can draw your own conclusions as to where the deal might stand and whether this deal has a chance to close.
Amigo Mike
PS ... this link may work better if anyone has trouble ... direct to documents
https://prodenv.dep.state.fl.us/DepNexus/public/electronic-documents/8625775/facility!search
Well thanks Mr Smith,
What do these signs say ("state a few things") that show they are active in closing the deal ? Some specifics would be helpful. Pics would be even better.
Dozens of fuel trucks pulling into where on a weekend ? There are of course 2 active fuel terminals right next door in Motiva and Chevron. Chevron entrance is literally right next door to the entrance to the main property the Cyberfuels proposed terminal would be built on.
My research shows ECSL is intent on closing the deal and has been. But of course nothing official has been offered on closing thus far.
Amigo Mike
Um,
There is only one side I'm on.
In the case of Penny .......
Boiler room .... LOL ... have you seen the trading in this stock ? LOL
Recorded conversations ? Eh maybe. But Florida is a 2 party consent state. So all parties need to consent to recordings .... both in person and via electronic means (ie. phone calls)
SEC violations ? Still waiting .....
Next ?
Amigo Mike
Um,
Just rehashing your fearmongering .... lemme get it correct again .... shareholders can't discuss "new international partners" on this board cause that info hasn't been publicly disclosed via official PR and all ...... is that right ? Released via the major newswires right ?
I mean ... just ... wow ! If you don't know this ........ should I highlight PRNewswire for ya ?
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/r-e-p-e-a-t----cyberfuels-continues-to-make-significant-gains-in-its-efforts-to-decarbonize-travel-301648893.html
So .... I guess investors can talk about it on this board ?? .... LOL .... without violating SEC rules ???.... right ?? LOL
Now .... about those posts that violate SEC rules ?? Please point them out.
Amigo Mike
LOL,
There's been no discussion here of anything worth a hill of beans on ECSL. So instead of fearmongering ....... Please do provide a specific example of said SEC violations on this board. Should be fun eh ?
Of course one could consider a group of investors who routinely communicate with one another and potentially trade as a group ... who also may own a number of shares combined that represents beneficial ownership of a company (many claims here in the past in this regard) but have not disclosed said ownership and acting together ...... welp .... then could be some SEC questions there for sure.
Amigo Mike
Thanks Sparky,
Appreciated. I still think the land deal is in play.
This issues would have to be addressed one way or another ... whether deal closed 2 years ago .... or closes some time sooooooooon ..... either way redevelopment of the land would require the remediation. So understanding them prior to purchase is probably the better course of action.
Amigo Mike
Nice Slojab,
Clearly as the evidence shows in black and white ... I didn't say "worthless hydrogen contraption". That is the fantasy made up BS to suit attack mode. But again a waste of time. I still recommend you leverage Ihub tools.
Just about everyone knows an LOI is not worth the paper it is written on. And LOI in this case is definitely worthless in lieu of no property to put the hydrogen contraption on in the first place.
Regardless of which hydrogen company it is, they will have most definitely spent big money to develop their hydrogen process and surely have patents .... so obvious that any company with said hydrogen contraption will have value ...... as to what value that is and what value it is to ECSL shareholders .... that all remains to be seen. LOI is not even in play until Lorton deal closes. It is what it is. Simple fact .... but I guess too simple for some.
Amigo Mike
Slojab,
No problem ... I'll admit to not speaking of that stuff publicly ..... but more than enough time has passed and the info is available for anyone to find all this time (yet no one produces it) ...... but you can see why at least I'm still in the camp that the Lorton deal should still be in play. I've maintained that all along and continue to do so.
Amigo Mike
Slojab,
Thanks for your note .... good info. Interesting that I've reached "professional" status ? Quite an achievement. Should I be proud ? OTOH .... that's why I pay no attention to those that warrant none. Sorry can't PM.
Anyway, still in the camp the Lorton deal is still being worked.
While Mills and Lawrence continue to fail to communicate and do simple things that are obvious to most ...... besides delays in getting others into the deal ..... the Florida Dept of Environmental Protection has had the main parcel at 5581 Commerce Street as a petroleum clean up site for years for anyone that's been doing their dilly.
The facts are there are at least 8 points of environmental reference identified on the property. In 2021 it was determined some (4) of the previously drilled wells to monitor the site had unacceptable levels (for groundwater) of contaminant but they were lower than natural attenuation values. Numerous other proposed wells were identified by the consultant (Taylor Environmental Consulting) reviewing the property to support data collection and monitoring. Either way there's been some expectation of clean up. And it's been known for a while.
Sparing all the exciting details .... they were recently notified (Feb) that state funding was made available for cleanup at the site and could be applied for to be released and I believe they had 60 days to apply.
I was for a brief period of time excited the deal was getting ready to close. Happy to show you why .... But alas ...... still waiting.
Send me a PM with your email and I'll happily send over if you wanna see the info.
Amigo Mike