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This is a longer term investment and I purchased on that premise. The "games", whether by pps or psychological warfare of cynicism, have been here and many other stocks since the dawn of time. The tail of dog is not going to wag me!
I am glad MVTG does not have old-hat technology. I see clearly that MVTG has moved from what I call "hope of tech recognition to serious commercialization". I do not watch the pin-ball antics off pps every hour or day. The greedy get their jolly out of robbing weak hands, and that is regrettable. I know what I own and the DD supports why. With 242K shares, it will reward handsomely.
See you at the top! (Zig Ziggler)
Who else quickly has the incentive and resources to take this to the next level? No one I know. Larry has his own incentive to be rewarded like us. Yes, we are disappointed that it did not happen faster. Life is not always fair. But I see this developing into more value than what I originally expected.
I am in the same boat as everyone else. Thanks for being here.
SPS50
When one plays with the big boys or wants their help, I realize that I do so at their speed and are influenced by their rules. Same is true for companies, through a win-win arrangement(s).
IMHO that IS happening here.
Golly, only Monday and the week already over? I like the progress trail for my retirement plans.
Good advice. I did that, and am pleased with results so far now that I am 65. I even converted some regular IRA's to Roth when the pps was low.
SPS50 or should it be SPS65?
Every company has work in progress "behind the scenes" which they can not divulge, not just OTC. MVTG has attempted to be as open as circumstances permit IMHO. They have my 7 year confidence, therefore I do not look for a boogey man behind every bush.
My statement stands as posted. :)
There have been several encouraging communications regarding the expanded marketing and promotion of ERC/MRFC over the past several months. The reminders of potential are good for all to see.
I do not need baby food spoon feeding every day. Progress happens behind the scenes and then one day significant progress is recognized, even in the pps. In the typical life cycle of tech stock values, the initial excitement may have lessened but the march towards a broad application of MVTG's assets is looming larger. These conferences and dots to connect are light years ahead of where ERC was ignored by major players 6 years ago.
Patience IS a great investing strategy, even for green tech.
SPS50 7 years :)
The low pps only will matter to those who cut bait too soon. The low volume and game playing has been going on for months, which I ignore.
It has been properly stated before by me and many others: MVTG is a long term play... with potential for great surprises along the way. It has before, and IMHO it will soon again.
SPS50 7+ years :)
Thanks - this is part of ongoing marketing, exposure, etc.
Thanks...
Just seems like a long road. I stay focused elsewhere to shorten the time. Try 7 years, yet I am not complaining. It will green when it should. Daily fluff is just that. MVTG has many professional people working the goals and they have vested interests at heart as well.
Thanks for being here. :)
I view CO2 as unhealthy pollution which is only one of several factors affecting major weather changes.
Thanks for trying to get a "response" from others here.
It is desired that all who can truly benefit mankind be given a chance and encouragement to do so. :)
When one asks, one must also give time for the specifically requested response which was asked in a later post. There is no argument about the request, just pointing out the philosophical logic of a possible conclusion. :)
Thank you for being here.
Lack of yes answer does not equate to no. It means that the evidence some require has not met their level of acceptance. So, one must ask HQ if the question is important enough.
I am so asking for me when they return my call. How about each of us so doing?
You can get it direct from MVTG HQ. They would be happy to sell a specific use license. However, it seems intelligent that one has to have a dedicated and specific application to use it in first.
What is it that you wanted the fuel cell to do?
Thanks for discussing both sides. :)
It IS nice that there is funding for the ongoing tech research.
It is also a plus that Bavaria can pay for the ERC project with a purer CO2 stream that sets the pattern for others in Europe. This redirection is taking time to joint "project" the approvals.
The BEST to all of us here... and a greener world.
SPS50 - almost 7 years.
Years ago I greatly underestimated the time it takes to commercialize and overestimated the obvious quick attention that ERC/MRFC should have garnered. That was my fault and my market gyroscope has be recalibrated.
With Lafarge and Alstom, to name a two, still on MVTG's side and that have incentives to see a return on their ongoing investment, I sleep well at night like many longs. Bumps along the way, yes, but surmountable.
Pleasant 4th of July to all.
Ah, Mr. Know-it-all with no support is kicking tires again. Perhaps he will stub his toe on a rock patent.
Each patent stands on its own two feet. What happens with others not followed up means nothing to the many good ones implemented. At least MVTG is actively progressing on the implementation of ERC and MRFC as PR's and funds allow, and that is fact as opposed to so much posted fiction. Over almost 7 years I have watched this move forward toward its goal. I am sorry for Larry & Co. that the potential here was not financially supported and encouraged by the majors much sooner.
So much happens behinds the scenes until one day the NR comes out and there are many smiles. Thanks Larry and Staff on the 4th from the U.S.
As seen over the years, others just not see beyond laptop screens. Anyone can destroy... it takes vision, commitment and more to be a builder which I find here at MVTG.
Best to all supporters.
A pleasant and reflective 4th of July to all here... may we pause to appreciate the responsible freedoms that our ancestors paid dearly for....
SPS50
It is historical that events, though mostly not promised, did not happen when we (all) wanted them to for MVTG. HQ can be consulted for its opinions and can be called.
For my part, after-the-fact information on 3M and Korea showed that shareholders would not have benefited from the revealed predatory actions of such potential ventures. Sad, since either of them could have accelerated the tech development and been making great profits by now IF they had cooperated reasonably.
Developments in technology are not done in a vacuum environment. Word of progress does get around. Given a modest recovery from the 2009-2012 recession, one can ask:
Where would ERC/MRFC be now if technology investors (JV, not retail stock purchases) had timely given even a portion of what was handed to other firms?
I will never know, because it did not happen. Justice grinds slowly, but it does make progress. From the communications I am aware, the right sequence for ERC/MRFC ventures will occur IMHO.
Thank you for the link - much work in the pipeline. It takes a big expertise it seems to get DOE funding... but it is possible obviously.
Thanks for being here.
Where else would I discover this but here. Thanks, and very encouraging... :)
Good reminder on CO2 abatement!
Sequestration should be tabled. Utilization at a profit, now there is a great idea while being green. I intend to continue to place little confidence in what is "said" and more upon what is proven or demonstrated... which is very old wisdom.
Enviro Technologies, a small startup not now listed, had a good scrubber. They do have a website FYI.
Now... guess what city they are located in? (Not Tampa :) )
At one point I tried to get them to talk to MVTG... no go then.
Agreed. Like the last to smile...
Well summarized. This stationary power supply is something another stock of mine could not accomplish (this much) in California 7 years ago by themselves.
Thank you !!
There are those who like to kick the tires, bounce on the seats and poke fun of what's under the hood... though they do not understand the vehicle at all. I am sorry for them... for they will miss getting the key to drive.
It is nice to know that the ups and downs of any stocks pps has nominal influence on the progress made behind the scenes, and that is happening at MVTG. Some steps of progress do take time, often in the hands of the bigger firms.
Thanks Larry & Team
So, what did HQ have to say recently about (any) catalyst hurdles with the Bavarian site?
I presume every industrial application has some adaption to do which in this case must be minor. :)
Good advice for us here in Tampa FL. Thanks for being here!
:)
UP IT WILL GO !!! :)
I desire to publicly thank all the providers of DD and other information on MVTG -- before I came on board and since then. You seeking posters have truly been a help, especially when in the early days I was a greenhorn here.
By the way, this applies to the patience that Larry and Co. have endured with me. I look forward to a great future (and ignore the pps for now) !
You know who you are... so smile big.
SPS50 6.5 years +
Your post has opinions which you are entitled to as opinions, but as reliable conclusions they are on ignore. Both MVTG and PLUG have a good future and thereby deserve the opportunity to unfold it.
I am pleased to be here!
Be sure to say UP IT GOES when it does, as it has before.
Daily movement irrelevant to the progress we see in MVTG! :)
No LOL needed. As stated before, all in good time and those times have happened before.
Vision to you.
There are no recycling issues. Formic acid, which is only one resource for MRFC, is not volatile like hydrogen. Mantra's ERC is about to make it is more readily available while significantly helping to clean up the CO2 issues in our environment. Production of Formic Acid is much cheaper than other forms of CO2 abatement which must happen. The MVTG website and other knowledgeable posters here can delineate all the salient points of this better solution. MRFC operations at roughly 10x the efficiency of other options makes its cost structure most compelling. May it get the respect and backing it deserves... we need it for our future.
SPS50 MBA CMA RTRP
For which one and for how long? MVTG has one in the negotiation and pursuing the other with both hands. It is already wonderful what has transpired by hard work over the last 18 months.
If all I know is what the 5 senses tell me, how poor am I.
The issue is not wished for profitability for PLUG but the better technology that will be made available sooner than many guess.
Why so bitter? The future will tell the story quite well. We smile here with a better option.