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don't want to burst any bubbles, but that website has been mentioned on and off here for months and months. I keep trying to point out that this "target' is meaningless because all it is is a poll of opinions of interested people. Last year it had "targets" of 50 cents - you see how that worked out and that was when the pps was hovering around a dime. It is worthless information. Sorry
You are right, I shouldn't be so doggone pessimestic. I do realize that the management has changed and they are trying to do things differently. Still, I want to see something before I get to fired up about it.
you may be right, but i wonder why we would think hisc management could do better. based on past track record we would expect telecents to end up in the dumper. i realize we havea different man leading the way, but i'm going to have to see it to believe it
just prayed for you - God be with you
Good medical analogy. My experience has been when someone is critical and in ICU the family knows in their mind that it is going to take a long time for them to recover. They know their loved one is not going to suddenly just wake up, jump out of bed and yell, "anyone for some 3-on-3 hoops?" They know that, yet they wait by the bed and hope against hope that every twitch is a sign of something miraculous. They just can't pull themselves away even though they know that if the person recovers to full health it will be months down the road. I think most longs know that recovery is no sure thing. We know that if this does recover it won't be tommorrow, it won't be in Nov., and it most likely won't be for many months and weeks. Yet every PR twitch sent our by BA arouses our hope for the miraculous. The best thing to do is walk away from the bedside - there is absolutely nothing any of us can do to help. If we could we would have already done it. Go back to work. Check in every once in a while. Read the doctors reports so you know where things stand. But most of all realize that what logic and reason are telling you about the condition of our beloved HISC is true. Decide what to do with your mind and not your emotions.
Sorry for the long post, but it is minddoc's fault. he got me going with his medical analogy.
Now I'm really confused.
Couldn't agree more. I didn't bet the house on this thing, just enough to make me say, 'ouch.' Having a wife whom I love and who loves me, four quality young men as sons, three daughters-in-law that I like and God in my life are all such great blessings it makes me realize this is just a minor bump in the road of life.
"GREAT TIME TO BYE MORE ."
I think you must have made a Freudian slip - "Bye" instead of "Buy" must mean sell or say good bye to HISC - Right? You can't fool me with these subliminal messages. I'm going down with the ship. I'm already up to my neck anyway.
That takes EVSY out of consideration for those buying HISC. So does this mean we can expect a continuationn in the pps dropping? Just wondering and I'll be glad when this whole divy nonsense is over and done.
Nothing to add to the conversation except my whining and since I don't have any cheese handy to go with it I'll just keep it bottled up for now.
No sweat, guys gotta vent once in a while.
Dang, I thought your "good morning" post meant you were going to get us all fired up and positive again. Lift my spirits and then kick my legs out from under me. Well, I guess truth can hurt, can't it?
Personally, I don't give a hoot about the divy. It'll sit there for a year along with a bunch of other divy shares HISC shareholders will have, and then if it is worth much next fall the market will be flooded with sellers trying to recover something from this mess. thus, the pps, if it is much, will plummet on heavy selling.
So who cares? Just get moving with sales and deals on the tracker and maybe they might get this turned around.
Spencer, you got way too much time on your hands buddy!
Good post, well thought out and said. I especially agree with the MM manipulation theory. Everyone wants to put it on their backs. Sure they are in this to make money on the spread, but if the share count were not so ridiculous we would see this thing already moving up in pps based on recent sales and anticipation of a positive future. The MMs don't control how many shares are being printed to keep things going, they don't control BA, they don't control Wick, they don't control the demand for the product (HISC shares). All JMHO - back to lurking and hoping for a brighter future
I hope this quote you gave us is true after Frank gets done with them.
"We stay in this business and stay profitable because we step up and make changes quickly and efficiently. When other companies have perished we have thrived because of our hard work, creative innovation, technical knowledge and our ability to change direction on a minutes notice."
Sounds like you and i took the same path to this "house of pain." HISC was one of the first pinkies I experimented with. I thought I was a genius when I bought it and it almost immediately ran from around .03 to .14 - I still remember late Friday afternoon looking at the pps and thinking about selling, telling my wife how much money I had made already, and her waiting on me so we could go visit one of my sons...Over the weekend I decided to hold, believing I was going to really do well. Even after it dropped I bought more believing it would take off again... You know the drill, port contracts, acquistion, etc. etc....
Well, here I am, hanging on because not much else to do except take a huge loss.
No sour grapes though, I knew the risks, I made the decisions, I decided when to buy and when not to sell. Tuition in the school of life I guess.
No I haven't put everything here, and only what I could afford to lose. But the mental aspect of this is interesting (I guess I'm psychoanalysing myself and need minddoc to jump in). Even though I can afford to lose, I don't want to. It is not really the money issue either. It is my competitive nature and pride. I don't want to have to tell my wife or anyone else or like the lady who does my taxes that I made a dumb decision that cost me some cash. Best case scenario is to make some money here. Second best is break even. Right now I have a long mountain to climb to do either.
Thanks for the words of encouragement though
Hope that is correct. I don't doubt Jersey, but in the future I'm going to have to see it to believe it with BA and HISC
I think the whole psychological aspect of how things will play out if this runs back up will be interesting. Will people like myself cash in their chips if they can get their money back? Are there a lot of us who are thinking that .05 to .10 is about as good as this is ever going to get with the share count and past history what it is?
I'm just thinking out loud and trying to plan my own strategy. I still have hopes of making some money here, but to be honest after what has happened I would be tempted to jump ship if I could come close to recovering my initial investment.
Just thought I would check in, having not posted in a long time. I'm still holding HISC, only because I'm so far down that there is not much left to recover. If nothing good happens by the end of the year I'll sell for tax purposes. Really disappointed, but not blaming anyone. No one held a gun to my head and made me buy and no one made me hold either.
I'm pretty much done with the pinkies - I guess some people make money buying and selling and I have on a few, but for the most part I end up losing.
Regrouping for a new strategy.
Still with you here for now.
I believe you are correct as to Moody being quite the hype man. My hope was that he was just overly optimistic and not intentionally dishonest. That is the past though and it seems, based on what I have seen so far, that wicks is more the realist and is trying to be upfront and get things going on a reasonable and realistic track. I just hope he is not too late.
Agree totally, that finally something that sounded like someone has a clue, was well thought out, didn't sound like another pinky shake and bake nonsense pr. Maybe wicks is the guy to get this moving in a positive direction.
I'm way in the red right now and in spite of the way this has gone the last year I may buy more and avg. down.
A dividend in a shell that they were saying was going to be worth .50 a share. We are also missing the fact that EVSI is going to dive also because it is nothing but a shell whose pps is what is is only because of anticipation of Actsoft deal. So what if they RS it. Those who get the divy will get 1 worthless share for every 50 of HISC. Break out the party hats. By the way exactly what does the CEO of a shell company do with his time?
If any of that was true why not just say what your plan is in clear language. Enough of this hinting and suggesting and leaving the guessing up to stockholders (or should I say bag holders). Don't give me any more of this crap about we can't say - they say because of rules blah blah blah, they have said a lot over the last year and most of it has turned out to be a bunch of nonsense. Stringing folks along a while longer seems to be the game now. Tell us about all the sales that will be coming, fly by the part about actsoft without really explaining what went wrong and why....
Another pink scam job if you ask me
PPS is always based on supply and demand and the demand tommorrow is going to be almost nill. HISC may still make something of itself, but the failure to finalize Actsoft deal (which I think was what kept most people in this as long as we were) the failure to uplist like promised, the failure to secure any port contracts, the failure to make good on promise of sales etc. I will continue to keep it on my radar, i may buy back in when it is subpenny and try and flip it to regain some of what I lost. Hope I'm wrong for the sake of all who decide to hold out. I take no pleasure in seeing anyone take a hit - but I believe that is what is about to happen - When Jersey calls it BS you can be sure it must be
"small dip tommorrow?" More like you better get out as soon as possible because it is going down fast. I've been holding on thinking I would at least get back to break even - don't think that is going to happen, getting out as much as I can tommorrow, take my losses and lick my wounds - hope I learned some lessons - expensive tuition though
Will someone be able to blog some info from the cc on the board as they hear it for those of us who can't get in on cc? Pleeeeeeaze
I'm not sure about your math here, that calculation is assuming that all shares of the new company are going out in dividends to hisc holders. Could be wrong, but I don't believe that is the case. A lot of shares will be sold on the open market, given to Actsoft owner(s), and paid out to others. How many shares there will be of the new company is still up in the air as far as I can tell. Help me out here if I'm off base.
Based on the 1 for 50 share dividend it will be more like a 1 cent per share dividend - and that only if it is .50 a share.
I've actually been an investor in HISC since March 05 - I have been up and down as to my hopes for this and I confess I am on the down side right now. I have to keep reminding myself that the money I invested was as much a gamble as an investment and I knew going in that I might bite the dust on this one.
The only penny stocks I have made money on are the ones that I flipped whenever I was green. I'm beginning to believe that is the only way to make money on them and you can't do it as a long term investment. HISC is my big test case - half of what I have in my scottrade account is in this, for better or worse I'm riding this horse until it throws me. I just hope in the end I don't wake up and find myself on a merry-go-round to nowhere.
thanks for the apology - accepted and it takes a big man to do that - props to you.
Spencer's Dictionary
1. Basher - anyone who disagrees with his mood of the moment, asks probing questions, has doubts, complains about management of Hisc - unless, of course, that happens to be Spencer
2. Concerned investor - see any post in which Spencer is venting frustrations for examples, but do not try this yourself at home because your lack of skill in proper histrionics will lead you into basher territory.
3. Long - anyone who agrees with Spencer (it is irrelevant whether or not you actually own stock or for how long, what is relevant is the party line). Somewhat akin in nature to political correctness.
I guess I'm on his ignore list, but in response to his placing myself and others on his list of people trying to destroy investors, management and the company - Frank and Big Apple are doing just fine without any help from any anonymous poster on Ihub or anywhere else. Look, if they came out with one decent contract, did what they said they were going to do with the merger, etc. and fulfilled what they have promised all the bashers in the world couldn't stop the pps from flying.
I'm in the red now and going down fast. I've held for a long time, could have sold at .14, .10, .07 etc. But I didn't because I believed in the product and the plan - Sorry you don't like people expressing their doubts, but if the board is merely a place for cheerleading and blind faith than it is worthless.
Now that is funny
Yea but after all the other things they have said they were going to do and haven't done is the "s" on the end of acquisitions just another way to keep us hanging while they sell more shares?
Thanks for the words of encouragement, I am still going to hold - But somewhat concerned about getting conned.
Big Apple is not the captain, Frank Moody is and this is a problem a the head. I don't like BA but they are not the ones running the company - or are they?
I hope you are right, but sentiment is turning bad and this is going to be a money loser for most of us unless they can get their act together. I've been in HISC for over a year because I believed in the plan and the product - beginning to feel like it might have put my money in the pockets of the wrong people
I don't like Big Apple anymore than most of you - but this is not a Big Apple problem. They don't run HISC or if they do then what is Frank being paid for? this is an HISC managment problem.
I'll say this one more time - Stock Targets is an unscientific poll that tells you nothing of value except that those invested in this are looking for a pps run
We've been down this road before, but here I go again - that price target is a poll which anyone can participate in. They won't let you go to high - it will kick it back and say your target is to far from pps presently - so it comes across as a realistic but favorable target price. The problem is the only people looking at that and taking the poll are investors. I know that Zurich is on there separately. But if I'm not mistaken they are a paid promoter. There is nothing wrong with a company hiring promoters to get their name out and help their chances of new investors getting involved, but that does not hold the same weight as an independent take on things. So this doesn't mean a whole lot in the long run. I'm not saying that to knock HISC, I'm still holding and hoping for great things, but I think we should be clear about what is what. JMHO and not intending to knock you for pointing this out.
Both are right and EOM usually means end of message on this and other boards, but I think in the context of the post you were asking about it meant end of month - paraphrasing what i remember that post was saying "the end of the month is going to get real interesting" one way or the other that is true. Either people will be running for the exit or trying to get in the door. it will be nice to see something happen