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Interesting..
"Now it also becomes the task of the scam debunkers to not only fight the scum running the scams, but also these legions of foolish and clueless individuals who are unwittingly helping the very people who are robbing them blind. And with the advent of sites that severely restrict references to individuals, there is where they settle because there is where they can flourish."
I would look no further than these posts that bring people into a stock like EXPH in the first place..I didn't even know this company was a good investment before I read these glowing posts..
"I believe that EXPH is perhaps the single exception to that that I have seen in the past five years. And a couple investors I respect seem to feel likewise. If this is not a legitimate company (and I believe it is), it would take it's place at the head of the best run con jobs I had ever seen. And believe me, I have seen a LOT of scams in my day; well run and otherwise. Still, $90K in one penny stock? I don't think so, lol. IMHO."
SBB
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=41319148
and this..
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=41331373
and of course this post that was surely posted to keep investors from investing in EXPH..
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=41290643
This post from a trusted source was also one that caught my eye..
SBB,
I only wish I had listened to you earlier on another stock which I now believe is a scam. EXPH does not fit the mold of a pinkie or OTC scam. In fact, it doesn't even come close. I am glad you're invested in EXPH along with many of us from the "other" stock.
On another note...thanks, JD, for catching the shorts with their pants down this afternoon. Excellent play, my man! We'll see how many more shorts cover on Monday!
kk
Nuff said...veno
I am glad you agree..
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"Yes Summer is over and the company is working on nine months with no new AS increase"
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"Why, yes".
I don't believe I see the proof in all that to where management sold their shares..There is a lot of this and that but no proof they have sold any shares..Still holding my shares as well..along with the insiders that hold the majority..No new dilution for over eight months...veno
Yes Summer is over and the company is working on nine months with no new AS increase. The 14th??
OK by me...veno
Thanks for reminding all that there hasn't been an AS increase in over 8 months contrary to the predictions that late May early July or surely by Summer there would be more added...veno
I already averaged down and so have the insiders that hold the majority of shares..but thanks...veno
Win or lose when??
I would say those that bought high and sold low lost..Those that haven't sold..haven't lost..that is called investing for the long term..I know traders have a problem with that..I could care less...veno
Those are a dime a dozen it would seem..
"There was also a prediction that all assets would be seized by Sept 3rd or 4th...some 10 day nonsense"
All were wrong..but thanks for the reminder..I am also looking forward to the shareholder meeting and the naming of new management...veno
Like I said we will revisit your new prediction come December..It has been eight months now since the last AS increase which is 3 months past that Late May early July prediction that was wrong..Summer is over so that prediction as well..is now history..
A rescheduled shareholder's meeting with a change in management along with other news is up next..I'll hold my shares...veno
You are talking about EXPO right??
BK prediction for EXPO in NOV..Noted..I will come back to this..December 1st...veno
8 months and counting with no new AS increases..
I see now a new prediction of BK for EXPO in Nov..I hope this time that the new prediction when wrong..doesn't slide into Winter..
Boots on the ground would say otherwise of that prediction of BK in Nov...I am sure..
As far as shares and who has sold and who has not..one thing is a fact..With over 3 billion shares out..the majority are not in the hands of average retail buyers..I'll continue hold my shares with the insiders and friendlies of the company...veno
Really..No equipment?? and you know this how??
It would seem your DD source is entirely wrong..check again..this time with a source not based on the internet...veno
"Fortunately, there is a solution:"
"If the business can show that it has corrected the problem and is now keeping current with its payroll tax deposits and can show that it is profitable enough to remain current and make payments on the unpaid payroll taxes (plus penalties and interest), the IRS will consider an Installment Payment Agreement."
It is good to know that there is a solution...veno
Thanks for the link..
It would seem you left out a small part..
"Fortunately, there is a solution:"
"If the business can show that it has corrected the problem and is now keeping current with its payroll tax deposits and can show that it is profitable enough to remain current and make payments on the unpaid payroll taxes (plus penalties and interest), the IRS will consider an Installment Payment Agreement."
Now what reason would that piece be left out of your summary??
My best guess is that every effort to show only the negative is the plan..
Thanks again for the link..
http://blog.pappastax.com/index.php/2009/03/21/what-happens-if-your-business-hasnt-made-its-irs-payroll-tax-deposits/
but next time please include all parts...veno
Opinion only and trusted sources??
Still adds up to speculation..and nothing more..
So anyone taking over the company has "mental illness" in your opinion?? I would say that anyone that is trying to turn the company around should be praised..
An American company employing American workers in this economy is a good thing..Sorry but EXPO is the company not the stock symbol..D&D displays is not the company nor is it the stock symbol..
"trusted sources"?? that have nothing to gain?? LOL..
We are now over the Summer with no new dilution as you and others have predicted would happen..that is a fact...veno
Your opinion is noted..
However..it is not my opinion..
It is also interesting to note that you have no way of knowing what the company and the IRS are doing..You have no way of knowing whether orders are still being shipped and more orders are pending..If all of your posted opinion is based on back taxes not being paid by "D&D displays"..then it would be nice to know if you know exactly what has transpired in the interim between when D&D display was notified some time ago and now..
Certainly it is a question I am sure will be answered by the company "EXPO" under new management without speculation..I can wait for that answer and deal with the "reality" and not speculation of what the company "EXPO" is doing now..
On a side note..you speculate as to what their former clients would do..First..As as I can recall..we were updated that EXPO was already moving in a new direction away from some clients that had one time display orders and moving towards recurring client orders and the CIMA cabinet side which makes custom made cabinets..That would be of course be new clients for them..
On a second side note..I don't believe that LOWES will go away..I believe you posted many times that they have a great deal going with the company..
In any case..much is being posted about what might happen and as you state it is your opinion..It will be nice to find out what is happening (reality wise) when the company updates us...veno
Thanks for the numbers..
Not much to speak to until after the company updates us..Keep up the good work...veno
100% correct..It is good to see the someone knows the futality of asking questions that the company can and will answer if asked at the shareholders meeting..In fact some can be asked before the meeting if any care to leave their name..By the way..those questions are not asked at the sales email site..LOL..Fall is here and no new dilution as was predicted..Thanks...veno
Edit..It sould be interesting to see just who is running the company and what new business is happening..
"Further updates regarding this subject are forthcoming along with updates regarding management changes, tax status, and a general company update."
Today is the last day of Summer..No new dilution of shares in late May and and early June. No new dilution of shares in July which was switched to Summer and now..no new dilution of shares in Summer..In fact no new AS increases for over seven months..Case closed..The rest is fodder...veno
Thanks for quoting the facts of my post correctly..
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The equipment and workers are still there
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...working on the back orders...
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...working on the back orders...
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...your prediction of new dilution didn't happened...
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New management is coming
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a new direction for the company
I guess I should have added that the vast mojority of shares are being held tight by insiders and friendlies to the company and that I will continue to hold my shares with them..Thanks again...veno
Considering the recent visit..
The equipment and workers are still there and working on the back orders..You have zero evidence to say the equipment is gone..The fact is..your prediction of new dilution didn't happened..case closed..New management is coming with a new direction for the company...veno
No new dilution in over seven months now working on eight months..Back ordered work for Cima cabinets to keep the company working for months to come..By the way..Cima doesn't go to retail locations they are built for custom homes..but of course anyone that reads the Cima website knows that well enough not to ask or make statements of how many for retail locations offer them...veno
http://www.cimacabinetry.com/index.html
About Cima
"Cima Cabinetry was founded in 2010 with the expressed purpose of serving clientele who will only settle for the best. Our award winning craftsmen
are at the top of their industry. Top of the line is not always the most expensive. We have top quality and craftsmanship lines within Cima that are
both cost effective and beautiful. We also have finish masters capable of producing that once in a lifetime piece that will serve you and your family
for a hundred years or more. We are customer driven, focused, family oriented craftsmen. We are Cima."
WOW..no new dilution in over seven months..
Back ordered Cima work and new management coming..Could be the turn around we have been waiting for...veno
Thanks..from your post..
"No new dilution in over seven months.."
Yep..the late May and early June prediction that you made for it to happen..didn't pan out as planned..As some would say..case closed...veno
"WTF is missing?!?!"
No new dilution in over seven months..which I believe you predicted would happen by the end of JULY..That was then pushed out to the end of Summer..Well today is the 19th..We will talk in a few more days about the Summer..as you say..Woof!..
On a side note..Thanks again Fourkids for the numbers and yes the Broker did file a complaint against Nite..That is what happens when a person(broker) and not automated trading sees the problem first hand..When they have a trade given to them to buy at the ask and it is not shown over lengthy time period..When the trade is put in more than once and it still is not shown..When the volume of trading was ongoing and the ask was not changing..When the broker calls Nite and catches them at their greedy game..Like I have said before..keep up the good work..The real criminals are those that manipulate the trading system..traders included...veno
Again just to clear up any mis-information..so that investors know what trully did happen with actual links..
This from March of this year..
"I have now confirmed the patent sale again..this time with the Senior VP of the company..He said he is more than willing to correct anyone's thinking who are stating that the patents had not sold.."
Cameron Gray, Ph.D, J.D.
Senior Vice President
Silicon Valley / West Coast
P: 650.421.3089
E: cameron.gray@us.icap.co
He did not say the patents were given to anybody..He stated that they were sold..Here are the links that show that they did sell...
http://assignments.uspto.gov/assignments/q?db=pat&pat=6499013
http://assignments.uspto.gov/assignments/q?db=pat&pat=6434524
http://assignments.uspto.gov/assignments/q?db=pat&pat=6532444
The stock is still trading although I don't believe Dean is still with the company and I have no idea who has the controlling interest..I do believe the game voice control service is still running..That MTNL still has the remote email service listed and that is all I know..The fact remains that Apple bought the patents...veno
Not a problem..
Move to NC..buy a custom home and then place an order through Cima..but remember they are back logged for several months..
Hope that helps...veno
Actually I am glad that you responded to my post..In fact..I knew you would and what would be posted..Thanks a bunch..
The constant negativity and malicious intent over the years has destroyed this small company trying to one up the bigger players..
Every move forward by Dean and the workers at OVOE was destroyed by constant phone calls and emails made by individuals to the companies OVOE was working with..There was constant effort made to keep investors away from the stock using malicious posts to discredit the company and its employees..In the end it would be Dean's eagerness to move to the bigger companies that would make it necessary to sell the patents..There were many larger voice recognition companies OVOE was in competition with and none had One Voice"s advanced technology..Yet..in the end one of the largest companies ended up buying the tech because it was "that good"..
I personally talked with several companies that suddenly went away..and they reported jammed telephone lines and constant emails saying that the company was a scam..
The lies about photoshopping billboards are well documented..The lies about the tech being a patch..and the thousands of posts which intent was to bring the company down are also well documented..The sad part..is that I met the workers at One Voice many times that made the technology better over the years..These were not scammers..but young..very intelligent workers that worked many hours a day to make the tech the best it could be..Their efforts and time spent were..as we now know..wasted..Their jobs gone as well..I saw the remotes being worked on..I got to use one myself and it worked flawlessly compared to the one that Microsoft demonstrated live at the show..I saw the effort at the college first hand to get the students signed up..I talked with companies that absolutely wanted to get the tech out to their customers..but the companies were contacted so many times saying the service was no good and the company was a scam..that many just said..no more..
As I posted many times..I personally used the technology and made others aware through it's use.. just how advanced it was..You cannot say the same..
In fact..you still have no idea how good it was..
Simply put..The tech was that good..However..on one hand you have a very small company in competition with the likes of Microsoft and other very large companies..On the other..attacks made daily to discredit anything the company tried to do..
IMO..some were right that the company made a huge misstake to let the smaller telcos go away due to lack of support..Dean made a huge error by thinking that the larger companies would stick to what they said would do and continue to expand the tech out to all the locations they said they would..So he pulled the equipment from the smaller companies and used it with the likes of Telmex and India..The only problem was..once they had the the tech and being overseas..or in Mexico..Dean had no recourse if they kept saying.."yes"..we will move the tech to this place or that on this date and they didn't do it..In other words they had the time and the money to wait this little company out and keep the tech..The only actual recourse would be to pull the equipment and of course the response from both shareholders and non-shareholders would be that it failed..Well..it didn't fail..In fact..Apple did buy the patents..
Now..why would Apple buy Dean's patents if they thought the tech was no good??
Here are the links..
http://assignments.uspto.gov/assignments/q?db=pat&pat=6499013
http://assignments.uspto.gov/assignments/q?db=pat&pat=6434524
http://assignments.uspto.gov/assignments/q?db=pat&pat=6532444
The other error Dean made IMO..was to let the likes of Intel and Microsoft use the tech at their shows..Though it sounded like a good idea at the time..Dean was practically giving away his tech to those companies R&D sections..Look what Microsoft has done over the years since letting Dean showcase his tech..I now believe that both Intel and Microsoft use those shows to not only showcase what they have..but to also find out what others have..
Looking back over the many posts where I said the tech is that good..I would say I was right and you were wrong..I can live with every post I made..
This is my last response to statements like these made with the intent to discredit the tech and the company
"NO...Apple did NOT buy any patents ever owned by One Voice. Any information to that end is misinformation."
"Call, email or snail mail contact available. Only thing in common is that Apple has never heard of One Voice Technologies, Inc. The report of Apple buying patents for decade old outdated patch program is ridiculous, false and a probable attempt to continue with this absurd self directed "underground" P&D. Stop for a minute. Now picture Stephen Jobs across the table from Dean Weber going "Yeah, wow...this is great s**t. And it's what? 12 years old? Can't wait to stuff this Windows DOS platform crap into the IPhone V"...LMAO. IMHO."
I would bet that Apple management is quite happy right now that they set across the table from Dean..I would also bet that "Build Gates" is not happy he was out-bid on the patents..LOL
Once again the only part that is correct in your statement above is "IMHO"..However the opinion is once again wrong..
To all the longs..If you have any questions..you know how to reach me..and No..I have no idea why this stock is still trading..Nor do I know how much the patents sold for..I was told by the head of ICAP a long time ago..that they would not say how much the patents sold for..I was told only that they had been bought..Of course when I presented that information to the board..I was told by at least one poster that they didn't sell and that I didn't talk to the head of ICAP..
On a side note..To all..be careful when clicking on links to any tech company's different websites..Some sites can easliy track your URLs location and information..
It would seem that Dean has moved on now that patents have sold and yet the stock still is trading..GLTA in all in any future investing...veno
For any that still care Apple bought the patents
back in July of 2010..Thanks to another shareholder for sending me the links...veno
LOL.."Friday through Sunday it appears completely dead."
Nice try..the company has a four day work week as you well know..While you have been trying to "get a handle" as you say on what the cabinet side is doing..I already have a handle on it..The cabinet side is doing great and has work lined up for months to come..As far as the delay to the shareholder meeting?? I see that as a good thing considering the changes being made..Of course that comes from my DD and not the internet..Have a great weekend..I'll be outside..not looking at my computer...veno
So what is your point??
Regardless of how the display side is dealt with EXPO stays viable and the cabinet side moves to the head of the line..You may want to recheck what is going on with the cabinet side..Last I heard..they had work scheduled for months to come..Like I said..leaner and stronger...veno
Hope you didn't buy your plane ticket yet..
9/15/2011 8:00:34 PM
"The company's upcoming shareholder meeting is cancelled and will be rescheduled for Mid-Late October. Further updates regarding this subject are forthcoming along with updates regarding management changes, tax status, and a general company update."
Looks like the company is prepared to answer all your questions under new management...veno
What horrific developments??
What is it people don't understand about the change in direction that was announced by the company many months ago?? The display side is going away as was stated..The company has been and is moving to the cabinet side as the main source of revenue for EXPO..A new showroom for the company was built in that effort..
EXPO will be just fine..All the horrific events as you say that keep being brought up will be null and void..
The company moves forward leaner and stronger..Gee..I wonder how many companies have done the same thing in this economy to survive..
I wasn't going to post again until after the shareholder meeting..but the constant posts on the same subject without taking into effect that EXPO is a holding company is ludicrous..The shareholder's meeting is one week away..all will be known..Believe it or not the answers are quite simple and can be asked and answered there..Oh and..doing your own DD that is not just internet based does actually help...veno
Fourkids..thanks a bunch for sharing an actual investor's visit to the company again..I do know who made the visit and I appreciate his sharing..It is great to be reminded frequently that the Southern Candle people are still big time shareholders in this company..
On a side note..I do agree with what Owgur posted.. added with the investor making the visit and reporting..I'll await the news from the shareholder's meeting before posting again..By that time..the Summer prediction for more dilution will be washed away..no pun intended..as was the late May and early June..July prediction..
It is great to know that legit banks and companies like LOWES have vetted EXPO before doing business with them..That it will always be better to remember that they do far more DD on a company they are working with than any single retail trader or investor could..
The TA says no new dilution since February and that is all the proof I need to continue to hold my shares along with the insiders and friendlies that are holding the vast majority of 3.3 billion shares..
Thanks again for the numbers you post and your effort...veno
Let me get this straight..
You have emailed "sales" with business inquiries without revealing who you are and you expect a reply?? LOL..
I agree it is not "rocket science" that no reply was returned..
I'll go with summation number (3)..They are doing business with companies like LOWES who they actually know want to do business with them..That they don't respond to emails from questionable sources who have no business dealings in mind to begin with..As a shareholder of the company..I would hope they continue on and not waste their time with emails sent with malicious intent...veno
For once a true statement..
"Assets sold on Ebay, taking employee deductions and not paying the IRS and renting off your business space is NOT DILUTION?!?!"
Thanks..Summertime and the living is easy..without new dilution in over seven months..it certainly is...veno
What missing TA??
The numbers are still the same since the last increase filed..My call was made last week..Now that would be in 2011 not 2010..You keep asking for proof and the TA can provide the proof that no stock split has happened and no new dilution happened in late May early June..July..or August as was predicted..In fact there has been no new dilution since the February filing..It would seem you haven't called the TA in 2011..Funny that you ask for the float..That would be great to know if one is seeking to take a big position in the company..Good luck...veno
I can't imagine one attorney that would take the case..In fact there aren't any attorneys taking any case against the company or its management..What is fact is that your prediction that by July there would be more dilution didn't happen..Though that got moved out to the end of Summer which is now just a few weeks away..I still see no new dilution coming..As I said the traders are unhappy and the longs continue to hold their shares with the insiders that know far more than anyone here does..
All the talk of attorneys and other fodder and the insiders still hold their shares..I'll stick with them..while speculation here is just that...veno
What is funny is that the traders are not happy..The long term investors are not looking to sell..I am quite content to hold on to my shares with the insiders who hold the vast majority of shares out..What goes around..comes around to those that try to make a quick buck and end up with nothing wash trading their accounts..I'll stay long and wait and see what comes around for the insiders and longs that are holding...veno
Proven by what??
"Expo's shareholders *know now* that their money invested in EXPH stock is/was nothing more than a disingenuous confidence scheme."
Allegations like that should be delt with in court and so far all I have seen is talk with absolutely no backing to that claim..If anyone had any proof at all to suggest criminal wrong doing..such as a confidence scheme..they would have already filed a lawsuit..As we all know..that hasn't happened..
The traders here are not happy because they can't play the game as they did with this stock and the volume of trading has pretty much dried up..The company hasn't diluted in over a half a year..which was predicted to happen much sooner..As a shareholder that hasn't sold any stock in the company..I am quite happy that the above isn't still happening..
There is no proof to any wrong doing..just talk..The only "maneuvering" I see..as you say..is that the insiders now own the vast majority of shares and are not letting go..If it is good for them to hold..it is good for me as well..
It would seem to me that as a shareholder that has such claims..that a good place to air them out would be the shareholder's meeting in a few weeks..However for some reason I doubt seriously that anyone with claims of wrong doing will be there for a face to face..
I am still waiting for that lawsuit I heard about a long time ago..but what is "plain as the nose" on my face is that it isn't happening..What is happening is that some are predicting 300% to 500% gains on the pps in the near future and I can sure live with that...veno