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Castle, actually there was a poker angle someone came up with B-). It went kind of like this. Follow the money, poker is hot as hell, everyone either watches or plays poker today. Perfect for a brokerage, these guys on the final table are accounts and dudes with degrees from MIT.
OCS does some marketing with super nice Polo shirts which have the OCS logo on it. Open a $100,000 account is the only way you get one of these shirts. Then OCS pays the buy-in of some of the country's best poker players (and maybe a couple of posters) to play in the world series of poker and hopefully make it to the final tables with their OC shirt that People Magazine can tell you means they have a $100,000 account with Internet inspired OC startup.
Just part of the "all cylinders." B-) Actually there 's an entire marketing plan based on nice polo shirts.
Tradeway Securities Group Inc, we all worked there, I created their largest and most profitable office which became their main office in Irvine Ca.
Absolutely love fishing, always talk fishing I tell Matt I'm doing this just so I can go up to Alaska and fish for salmon the rest of my life.
BTW, did I tell you about the king salmon I caught in the Trinity River last year? Ah, it's a long story over there on da swamp. B-)
Yeah, you wonder just how many people here would have the balls to put themselves out there showing the world all that they are, and all that they are not.
Those are the risks you gotta take when you get up to bat.
Yes sir re ergo, that's correct, now you can go here
http://pdpi.nasdr.com/PDPI/
find no disclosures and we can move on
Any questions feel free to ask in public or private, and please understand if they all can't be answered at this time.
probably, I'll take your word on it, but the link is not working, but see that, see the skill of us Internet junkies, regular Dick Tracys.
don't like drinking, been drinking less and less as I age, takes too much out of ya
Some people say, "take it slow, take your time", I say "I have two speeds, go and stop"!
Matey, how you doing? Hear you have been getting a lot of rain up there in the territory as of late?
gee, can I write here? I guess I'm soppose to shut up. Matt seems to think I write like shit (dah, been doing that for nearly 10 years) and should stick to yelling and writing checks..........
Mark is exceptionally good at putting stockbrokerage firms together, believe me, it's more paperwork and check writing, and fingerprints and bullshit than you can imagine. Marc owned/created 5 maybe 6 brokerage firm, including the last one
He's our consultant, go to California corp records for the owner of OCS, then you'll have my name, after that I don't really know why you'll post my name, a simple question would work fine.
A poster here (think it was LG) commented that the logo should be simple to reproduce on letterhead, envelopes and things like shirts and such, I agree.
I like many of the elements of many of these logos, any ideas?
Castle, what if posters from IHUB spent an hour everyday, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week updating a financial "Drudge" type site with all the most recent financial news they can find from all the links we can compile?
I believe a single poster complied this here, http://investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=474
he has all the links but no one is putting them to use because it would take too much time, UNLESS a number of people compiled all the news to one page as Drudge did with regular news.
We could use short sweet verbiage like Drudge and the New York post does to link the news. Categorize all the news so it's easy to find on one page.
Well at least Lake Meade can get some much needed water.
Castle poker was just an example of what's currently "hot" on the Internet and making money. The contest would be a simple you pick and trade the stocks contest, very quantifiable with larger stocks.
The prize would simply be cash to the winner(s), the result would be familiarity with our firm, it's site and it's use, a natural marketing tool.
Castle someone just pmed me that same view. Yes I know there is plenty of "financial news" sources, however if you asked 10 traders here where they get their news you would probably get 9 different sources.
That needs changed immediately, I like twenty steps at once, I like firing on all cylinders.
Wouldn't 1600 accounts translate into 20 million if I'm seeing evaluations well in to the 200 millions for on-line brokerages's firm with 16,000 accounts?
Am I missing something here?
There's much more, take this for example, any input?
or on-liners could pay the entry fee to play poker on-line
or come here and fill out an OC new account form to enter the free stock market trading contest, hence learn to use and feel comfortable with OC's trading software, while Matt tweaks out and designs the software for the trading public as they ask in real-time.
Have a market blitz by either paying marketing companies or paying a group of writers to alert the internet world to the contest at IHUB to trade the market with fake money to win the prize of real money.
Opening a account with us after that is a no-brainer, especially since they already did, and even more so, if they made money.
Castle, a perfect example of how us average joes can work together to slay the giants.
How come there is no financial news site on the Internet like this?
http://drudgereport.com/
All Drudge is doing is COMPILING news and links from many sources.
IHUB members could work for say a brokerage firm building a team of writers who could spend say an hour a day 24 hours a day methodically checking and updating all the combined news sources we can find, we could be the number one financial site in months.
Nearly everyone I know goes to Drudge for the news, even the Liberals. Why has no brokerage reproduced Drudge's simple news collecting and compiling for the financial arena?
Maybe these giants are too proprietary to think about the rest of the world's news and how free and accessible it is?
Murdoch executives to map out net vision
By Aline van Duyn in New York and Tim Burt in London
Published: February 15 2005 21:24 / Last updated: February 15 2005 21:24
About 50 senior News Corporation executives, including Rupert Murdoch, the chairman, will meet in New York on Wednesday to map out an internet strategy for the global media company.
News Corp which owns satellite broadcasters in the US, Europe and Asia, the Fox cable channels and movie studios, and newspapers around the world will determine after the day-long brainstorming session how it should tackle the sharp growth in internet advertising and changing viewing habits.
Wednesday's meeting marks the group's most intensive look at web plans since James Murdoch, the chairman's second son, oversaw its new media strategy in the late 1990s. Those efforts, including a plan for an entertainment website, proved abortive.
The review follows a memo circulated by Mr Murdoch to News Corp's operating companies, seeking details of their internet strategy and proposals for the future.
One insider said: “Ever since the bubble there has not been very much conversation about the internet round here, but now attention is on it again.” Internet advertising collapsed in 2001, and many media companies had to write off investments. But search advertising is booming as advertisers spend money to have their names featured in the results produced by companies such as Google.
The internet is predicted to be the fastest-growing advertising medium this year. Broadband is also changing the way consumers watch content.
News Corp's internet presence is focused around a handful of websites linked to specific channels or newspapers. Mr Murdoch said recently: “We're doing a lot of research and a lot of work . . . I can assure you that all of the top management and quite a bit of middle management had their minds focused on [the internet].”
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/26b91e14-7f84-11d9-8ceb-00000e2511c8.html
Irish, the irony of your grievance is that your boy has only two bookmarks.
That means you and him are probably the ONLY people here who read his remarks.
He should thank you for giving him the attention he could not recieve on his own.
the OC of course
Hey az, you fellers been getting any of this rain we've been having here in socal?
Fred, I never knew you had your own thread, how very cool, the drop dead fred thread.
BTW Milk, actually this is the real elephant parable.
http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=5025115
To forty-niners and those following, no expression characterized the California gold rush more than the words "seeing the elephant." Those planning to travel west announced they were "going to see the elephant." Those turning back claimed they had seen the "elephant's tracks" or the "elephant's tail," and confessed they'd seen more than enough of the animal.
The expression predated the gold rush, arising from a tale current when circus parades first featured elephants. A farmer, so the story went, hearing that a circus was in town, loaded his wagon with vegetables for the market there. He had never seen an elephant and very much wished to. On the way to town he encountered the circus parade, led by an elephant. The farmer was thrilled. His horses, however, were terrified. Bolting, they overturned the wagon and ruined the vegetables. "I don't give a hang," the farmer said, "for I have seen the elephant."
For gold rushers, the elephant symbolized both the high cost of their endeavor -- the myriad possibilities for misfortune on the journey or in California -- and, like the farmer's circus elephant, an exotic sight, and unequaled experience, the adventure of a lifetime.
Oh sorry milk, I thought you wanted a check for 1000 dollars, I didn't know you just wanted to hear yourself talk.
Today there's a million ways the average joe can compete against the giants
first thing you do is compete with no one, make a new mousetraps, could start with a simple deal based on poster equity, ownership something like travelzoo deal but legitimate and legal
or we could attract the best writers and grow the site with marketing ideas, simple marketing, the site itself is already the definition of financial marketing, just look at the "who's who" of advertisers who pay big bucks to think we click their banner ads.
or on-liners could pay the entry fee to play poker on-line or come here and fill out an OC new account form to enter the free stock market trading contest, hence learn to use and feel comfortable with OC's trading software, while Matt tweaks out and designs the software for the trading public as they ask in real-time. People come from near and far to join the contest to trade the market with fake money to win the prize of real money. Opening a account with us after that is a no-brainer, especially if they made money.
or becoming the online place for financial news in a way no different than the way Matt Drudge has become the place for online news; compiling it and presenting it, The only difference between us and Drudge is we have hundreds and thousands of people to help and he didn't..
or we can start by offering something completely new with a real 15 year experienced, or more, non-soliciting stockbroker on the other end of the phone for $9.95. Don't see that at Ameritrade and E-Trade, they also seem to have much higher expenses by needing offices all over the place, big old computers and servers everywhere and all kinds of other bullshit, plus all those stupid TV commericals they run all morning. Seems not only has Moore's law finally worked in favor of the small guy but there also is plenty of brokers out of work, someone needs to start a H&R Broker, or how about a Supercuts for wall street, I always thought a $11 haircut was such a good idea that I left a 9 dollar tip. B-)
or how about we enlighten the rest of the world to the fact that the best financial writers are here simply because we control the media, just as ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox controls their media. Castle, becoming the giant is simply a state of mind.
or how about the fact that nearly half of the NASD companies seem based right here in the OC, just think if local companies started to think of us as a little trick boutique connected directly with the minds and window of IHUB and SI, B-) man these google privates are blowing out defence department-like paydays, that's plenty to go around
and that's just from the hip, Castle B-) which logo was yours?
In my years in the business I can't help but recall the exponential force I continually see created by a handful of people who were bound and determined to create wealth through a successful business.
Just imagine if you could harness the energy of dozens or hundreds of people, this always was the promise of the Internet, wasn't it?
Wall street figured out around NASDAQ 5000 that the Internet was only good at making real earnings for things like porn, ebay, gambling, and on-line brokerage firms.
A group of common on-liners needs to figure out how to focus their energies and window towards a methodical creation of a self-fulfilling prophecy of money, clients, marketing and product into a win-win business. I'm thinking the best way to do it is to try all the different approaches at once and attempt to fire on all cylinders.
anyone can babysit adults
I don't sleep well at night putting money into stocks which could halt over night and never trade again, do you?
say 20% winner every day? stocks don't even move like that anymore, 16,000 clients equals a good 200 million, I'm looking a math not cracking the uncrackable
Speaking of "cracking the code", Matt Drudge is on Fox News right now.
Yeah, we gotta figure this out, crack the code, figure out the win-win, it's all here in front of us, just gotta do the math, B-)
a window
Question, what if posters focused all this daily energy towards something which could make money?
Would be an interesting hypothesis,
but wasn't that our initial rational 10 years ago for the expenditures of time sitting in front of a computer,
or just the excuse?
but do u think they will work?
Logo 53, how about the chart ending at a high spot on the mountain with another snow line, the most incredible thing about the OC is being on the beach in Feb and looking East at the snow, there's no where else in the country with such extremes
Milk, I and many others I know like this logo, however from what I know about the OC there are few if any lighthouses. I would really like to see the lighthouse taken out and a snowline added to the mountain on the left.
fung, what new guy, I IHUB predate you, I been posting here before you found your first lint plug
Paulie, what logo u like?