Do clyw have something to do with Nokia? Well, i guess not. Beacuse Nokia prefer norwegian companies.....

Maybe Leon will sell some more? He sold 40 000 shares or something 10 days ago, didn`t he?

Why? Beacuse of a trial agreement with an unknown company? You actually think Clyw should nearly double their market Cap beacuse of a trial agreement? What is the Market Cap for clyw today? Something like 150-200 M$? At 300-400 M$ at 2$ pr share? An all this without any revenue, increasing loses and a thin balance. Well, i guess things like this is normalt in the pink market?

This is so bogus. 100 000 phones during the first thre quarters? They`ll be lucky if they sell 100. 100 000 is just laughable.

Give us a break. Any serious company would NEVER call themselves something that similar to a major company. You thin Franc Telecom is a random name, that just happen to be similar to France Telecom? I thin NOT. I think it is a bogus company and that they`re not doing anything at all. If a serious company call themselves Franc Telecom and expect to be a major player, than they would 100% certain have an upcoming lawsuit. Franc telecom is nothing, and is probably a scam.

Some companies actually have agrements with France Telecom,, Im not saying names, but you all know.

Other companies have agreements with Franc Telecom.

I know I sholdn`t laugh at myself, but yes it was kinda of funny. Chin Telekom, Nextrel, Ntc Docromo and 4 are also hot companies.

I guess Clyws next agreement will be with Vodaprone, G-Mobile, Berizone, A3&3 or Oranges?

Can`t be the biggest company in the world. By the way, i don`t think France Telecom is selling anything in UK at all. France Telecom owns Orange which has a brand in UK called Orange UK. So If clyw ever should do an agreement with a carrier in uk that has anything to do with france Telecom, than it would be trough Orange UK, and of course if they would have been mentioned if they had anything to do with this. Franc Telecom selling 100 000 in uk? Thats as likely as man stepping fot on Mars this year.

http://www.officehound.co.uk/city/1106.asp

Why do you think that this is just mentioned in the report and not with a pr? Well, its probably beacuse a pr could get Clyw in legal troubles with france Telecom. Clyw have a balance sheet that is very thin, if i didn`t read wrong, it said that they have negative working capital? Almost no cash?
Well, companies like france telecom don`t do agreementes with companies with a thin balance sheet. Thats beacuse they need to be sure that the company actually can survive and deliever the products over time. Large companies lage France telecom often have a policy that they don`t to business with companies like CLYW, beacuse they`re is a huge chance that they may go bankrupt, anyone looking at the report can see that risk.
An agreement with franc Telecom however is probably likely, but i haven`t heard of the company, it`s not huge in Europe or in UK and it`s not likely that they would sell any real amount of products. That someone should sell 100 000 products is not realistic at all. I don`t think i number of thtat amount would be realistic even if there was an agreement with Verizon or T-Mobile in the US. Selling new products takes time, and getting a proper sales volume is not that easily done. I think this Franc Telecom look suspicious and there
is such a company in UK.

I see Clyw is filing late again. What a shock, what? Is it the fourth or fifth time in a row they are filing late? They are really building up trust in the company aren`t they?

CLYW didn`t even attend the show.
You see Bridgeport, Birdstep and lots of others attended and, off course the showed off their actual products, something CLYW has left to do. Liers are the ones who won`t show what they have, the companies with actual products have a tendancy to show it to people. You see where i`m heading?

CLYW don`t even have have finished product, they`re sending out bogus PR`s, they mention big names that don`t have any thing to do with them. They don`t have any income, they don`t spend any money and they don`t have any money. And they have had dozens of broken promises.

Again i ask, what is the market cap for this company?

I thin its suitable to repost one of my posts. I can not express ho much agree with the guy who wrote this, specailly with his view on Clyw.

"Companies you might want to check out are:

- Bridgeport Networks
- Birdstep

There is also Calypso Wireless out there, but they seem to be a bogus-company. I was in Cannes this week and talked to both Bridgeport and and Birdstep (Calypso was not there). They impressed me with their technical expertise and the capability of their products.

Posted by: Lars Kamp at February 18, 2005 06:04 AM"

http://www.henshall.com/blog/archives/001110.html

Nlightn

They started with a new story, satellite radio industri, the pumping will probably be something like last year (full of big names but no actual agreement with anyone)

Wireless network infrastructure, software development companies,telecom and wifi-industri and last but not least internet service providers.

Of course the last pumping (got old asnap BS) did not lead to any money, but i bet we will have a series of pumping with worthless PR`s, like this one.

Again what is the Market Cap for Clyw?

How big is Clyw`s market cap now?

How much cash do they have?
How much income?

From what i read from the last result, the answer to the last questions are zero or next to zero. I think it`s laughable that Clyw supposedly have "revelutionized" the world AGAIN. Think about it, they don`t have any staff, they don`t use money. They`ve promised dozens of things, nothing has happend, it`s just air.

So what is the cap? 100 M$? 200M$? I would have taken my profit now.

And it`s the same BS as last time, i wonder why the mention companies like Apple and Sirius? Is it beacuse they are partners or might be partners? NO! It`s because thats two of the hotest names in US at the moment and it`s perfect for pumping the stock, just as last year. My advice, be careful, this is not a serious company and CLYW is not worth more than max 5m$!!

I think that the hot air is running cold from the first patent hype, so they need something new to hype. The question is how long will the air last this time? I don`t think it will be long.

The funny think is that this PR looks like the ones from last summer, i guess we could have a rerun from last year? You remeber? 5-6 identical PR`s released with within a couple of months.

I know, I was just posting the info because it also was about Calypso.

"Companies you might want to check out are:

- Bridgeport Networks
- Birdstep

There is also Calypso Wireless out there, but they seem to be a bogus-company. I was in Cannes this week and talked to both Bridgeport and and Birdstep (Calypso was not there). They impressed me with their technical expertise and the capability of their products.

Posted by: Lars Kamp at February 18, 2005 06:04 AM"

http://www.henshall.com/blog/archives/001110.html

Well, I found someone who agrees with us regarding CLYW. That Calypso har selling nothing but air.

"It was a busy week, and it started with a visit to Cannes where the 3GSM Convention took place. I checked out a number of companies which I consider very interesting, in particular:
- Birdstep
- BridgePort Networks
- Alvarion
I also had a chat with a number of people about Calypso Wireless, a company which I have followed closely during the last year, and they principally confirmed my impression about Calypso (which is that they are selling hot air). I will post more about these companies during the weekend."



http://telcotrash.typepad.com/

Well, you are claiming things that hasn`t been proved, and you`ve been wrong several times. Regarding BT, all the agreements I`ve mentioned can be confirmed, just ask which one you need and i will send a link to the filing, article or whatever you need. You`re saying 12 companies, the problem is that you can`t prove it, therefore you are spreading rumors and you`ve done this before and a lot of the things you`ve said will come, haven`t come, so i don`t know who`s the one with the facts? Me who can prove things, or you without any proof?

I`m saying you`re pumping the stock with possible false rumors.

This sounds like meaningless pumping of the stock. You have been talking about coming pr`s for a long while, you have been wrong so far, what is different this time?

well, Symbian have a huge market share. I think somewhere between 80-90%, i don`t see the market share slipping anytime soon.

You totally missed my point. BT has been tested in several enviroments, I`m not talking labs, I`m talking on trains, stations and in offices. BT have also signed an agreement which involve 1000 of National GRID`s service vechicles. So what you`re are saying is BS!

All I`m saying is that in these tests the operators have installed HA and people are more technology aware than the normal person. Voice is good, but video need som testing.

Does BT have a solution that works? Yes, and it has been tested in several enviroments and been choosen by: Fujitsu Siemens, Ericsson, Nortel, Symbian, Alcatel, HP, Cisco, Capgemini and National GRID. Have BT been mentioned in articles? Yes, severals times, mostly together wit IPunplugged which are they`re largest competitor.

Does CLYW have a solution that works? Probably not, because they haven`t shown it and they have prosponed things for years. CLYW have signed some deales, but several things indicate that a lot of these agreements are false. Have CLYW been mentioned by other than themeselves in articles? Maybe once or twice

Do other companies have solutions that works? Yes. Have other companies been mentioned in articles? Yes, Ipunplugged, Ecutel and some others are often mentioned together with BT.

Well the point is that BT is a Symbian partner and CLYW and others are not. http://www.symbian.com/news/2004/pr041001b.html

well, I have allready adressed how I Unproffesional I think CLYW handled that. We had a debate on this earlier and CLYW management didn`t have a clue on what BT was doing and not doing. This George guy mixed BT`s WLAN-company with their MobileIP-company.

Well, there have been several successful tests with voice, in holland with Vodafone and others, but of course these tests are mainly set up in a good enviroment, in real life there are other issues, the operator need HA to make this work and only a few operators have started to install HA on their net. Voice is no problem so far, but there are other issues which needs to be solved to make a perfect seamless enviroment, but that is mainly things that don`t concern companies like CLYW, BT and their competitors. Regarding Video, I have heard that there has been som issues with the MIP-client, to large MIP-lag, but from what i have heard, that issue can be solved. Anyway I don`t think the market for Video on smartphones is near ready, I think that is a couple of years ahead, but Mobile VOIP could be a serious issue allready this year. So Real time Voice is not a problem, however real time video need som work for BT and others (like Cisco, som router issues)

Well, english is not my written language, so of course if have som errors. But I`m talking about several companies, not only BT, check out Ecutel.

I doubt you know what you`re talking about,since you`re talking about other things than me. BT and other have compressing technologies which are compensating for the extra packet overhead related too VPN tunneling. Theese compressing technologies BT gets from partnership with Israel-company Orsus and swedish company called bytemobile.

Why are you talking about changing standard? I have mentioned that with one single word. The case is that Mipv4 standard are being mad at this date, som Mipv4 related issues are not standard yet and the proposed standard is included patented technology from BT. Since BT have patented this, they`ll get royalties from competitiors which are using this solution and its the proposed standard. In other words BT have patent on some of the proposed standard related too Mobile IPv4 Traversal Across IPsec-based VPN Gateways.

I`ve been talking to severeal industry expert and they are all claiming that BT and others like Ipunplugged have a proper solution and that they are solving a huge problem, but several things are missing including a proper payment solution for cross usage of nets, roaming agreements (how do you solve the payment when using a competing WLAN?) and there are stille to few Wlan-phones.

Today BT are in the market with Laptop and Pda solution, they have been getting som customers and so are other similar companies. BT have a symbian and windows Mobile software ready and in a short while, this will be used on several smartphones. I think CLYW must get a finished product in a short while to have a chance and i doubt they can get a proper product when spending such a small amount of money. I am not sure, but i wouldn`t be surprised if CLYW was a somewhat scam. All agreements so far seem strange when looking av revenue, all delays and the small amount of money spend indicates that something is wrong here. But of course i might be wrong.

But in all fairness there have been a market delay when it comes to the seamless roaming market, several companies have prosponed market solutions and people where expecting things in late 2004, but from what I have heard the early movers are not presenting broad market solutions until late march month, maybe on the large Cebit event. T-Mobile could easily be a first mover in this segment.

Well, I doubt the mobile operators are interested in propritary solutions. The BT point versus other similar solutions is that they have an open solution which can be used with existing infrastructure. They have also patented the VPN-On/Off function which is proposed as the standard. So if the large companies make their on solution, they`ll have to pay royalties to BT, so BT has a safety card and a solution that works. CLYW`s problem is that they haven`t proven anything and they don`t have any money to compete with other companies, 100 000$ pr quarter is not enough. I also think BT have a better safety card with the patent versus CLYW, CLYW`s patent is more like taking the patent on an idea, and i don`t think that will work. BT have patented spesific technology from their product. And i have also been talking to people from Ericsson and Cisco, they say BT have the best solution avaiable at the moment, and that Mobile Ip technology will have a good commercial future. At least Cisco don`t have any plans on making their on product, they don`t see the point on making a new solution when third pary software allready works fine (BT, Ecutel, Ipunplugged and more). The overhead problem is solved, thanks to collabaration with companies like Bytemobile and Orsus (Birdstep partners). Birdstep also have connection manager software which are beeing use by more than 30% of the mobile operators around the world. When the connection manager will be upgraded to a seamless solution, where do you think they`ll look? Don`t you think the operators will choice to stick with the same, but upgraded connection manager (seamless with mobile ip)? And why do you think Symbian have a partnership with Birdstep and no others? Could it be that Nokia where visiting Birdstep last summer and that other cell phone-makers have asked for a Symbian client?

Clyw still have a chance, but they need money, they need to spend money and they must work fast. Because when lot`s of smartphones get wifi support, people will choose the solutions that are in the market, and works. I also think they will choose standard based solutions.

Here is a nice article from Symbian. As you probably know most advanced cell phones (Smartphones) are using Symbian operating system, BT is the only Symbian platinum partner which has to do with seamless roaming. I wonder why CLYW isn`t mentioned here, if they`re gonna be so amazing? In fact i wonder why, Clyw is never beeing mentioned?

from symbianone.com
"SymbianOne - 2004 In Review
Written by Richard Bloor

Thursday, 30 December 2004
We looks back at 2004 and picks the key events and technologies that have shaped the Symbian OS ecosystem. And no year end review would be without a few predictions for 2005.
2004 has been an exciting year for Symbian OS and the ecosystem building around it. Looking back at 2004 the biggest change has been the degree of confidence in and about the Symbian OS economy. This year's Symbian Expo underlined this growth with the number of exhibitors and attendees increasing significantly, not to mention the upbeat atmosphere. (We must express out thanks to Cognima for helping out with our coverage.) Much of this enthusiasm was also carried through to the Nokia Mobility Conference.

There were several positive indicators of maturity in both device and content development during 2004. Developments in the testing tools market for example. Back in January we looked at the Metrowerks CodeTEST toolset, which still occupies a unique position as the only Symbian OS tool for testing dynamic code quality. Although Mobile Innovation addresses this aspect of quality with the static analysis tool Code Scanner. Device testing tools veteran Test Quest were joined by Mercury in providing Symbian OS testing tools while both Digia and Mobile Innovation updated their device based tools.

In the same area we also saw the launch of Symbian Signed. While the launch met with a few grumblings about locked down devices and the restricted ability to load software, Symbian Signed has established its self as a given in the Symbian OS space. Most of the major sales channels and developers have now embracing it. The core development tools market has not be quite either, the licensing of CodeWarrior by Nokia was perhaps both unexpected and logical. CodeWarrior 3.0 is out, not so long after we were talking about 2.8. Borland also seriously joined the Symbian OS tools game this year with some interesting features such as RAD and model driven development for Series 60. At the same time a number of alternative languages such as Simkin and OPL, along with the just released Python for Series 60, have added to the options for developers who can not afford the time and cost of Java or C++ development.

One development technology SymbianOne will be keeping an eye on in 2005 is Virtio's Virtual Board technology. Virtual Boards promise much in terms of accelerating both device and third party application development.

All of this has been underpinned by the strong growth in application sales, with those reported by Handango on the UIQ platform being particularly positive. Application sales for the Series 60 still do not seem to have taken off, but the introduction of Preminet by Nokia is likely to see the balance start to shift in 2005.

Enterprise solution have also come more into focus this year. They still lag behind were SymbianOne would have picked progress in 2003. All the same some interesting developments have taken place. Intrinsyncs middleware and client holds much promise. Horizontal enterprise applications are also starting to make an appearance, such as Orative's call management system.

More general support for a businesses day-to-day requirements to access documents has improved with solutions from Cerience and MDM's Quickoffice now preinstalled on the Sony Ericsson P910 .

While WiFi only have made it onto the Nokia 9500 all indications are that it will be an important technology, at least on enterprise phones, in 2005. This was certainly the message we got from Taproot, a company who work at the very core of device development and see the market 18 month to two years ahead of the shelves. When the growth really starts companies like Birdstep are ready to step in with the support to ensure the user can made the most of mixed network environments.

Malicious code for Series 60 must take the award for the quantity of largely inaccurate coverage of Symbian OS from the first "discovery" of Cabir by KasperskyLabs. News of METAL and new variants of Cabir have spread across the internet like no other Symbian news. Ironically it is these viruses seem to have an ability to spread through internet news services with much more virulence than they have achieved on the devices, where they rely on the two G's, Gullibility and Greed to spread rather than exploiting any real weakness in Symbian OS.

So that was 2004, what is going to happen in 2005?

For Symbian OS itself 2005 is likely to be the year of the security. A number of SymbianOne's contacts have hinted at significant changes to the OS in 2005 with security being top of the agenda. Indeed several sources have suggested that security will be a key commercial differentiator for Symbian OS in 2005, providing Operators with an unmatched secure, tamperproof environment. 2005 is shaping up to be an even more exciting year for Symbian OS with the fruits of 2004s major investment starting to show.

3GSM in February is likely to be the pivotal event in the first half of the year (and you do not really need a crystal ball to predict that.) SymbianOne expects UIQ to be very much at the forefront with the first UIQ 3.0 devices almost certainly making their debut at 3GSM. SymbianOne also expects that it will not simply be new devices but new licensees too, spurred on by the single handed capabilities in UIQ 3.0.

2005 is also certainly going to see Series 60 licensees becoming more active. Currently none of the licensee outside Nokia have launched more than one phone apiece. In 2005 SymbianOne expects several licensees to launch multiple Series 60 device ranges.

Finally the most important feature for 2005 will be the dominance of the Symbian OS economy. While 2004 has seen much debate on the relative merits of various mobile platforms they have all overlooked the importance of the community of application and content developers creating an economy around the platform. The fragmentation in Linux, uncertainty about Palm and poor performance by Microsoft is likely to see the Symbian economy surge ahead in 2005, building a synergistic powerhouse that will keep the Symbian OS at the forefront of the market for 2005 and beyond.

SymbianOne will be with you throughout 2005 with the latest news and in depth features, we already have a hectic schedule for January and February. We are changing our newsletter format too. From next year it will be bi-weekly with separate issues one featuring Symbian OS applications and the other focusing on our ecosystem features and news. These new format will help you focus on the aspects of the Symbian OS economy which are important to you. The first new format newsletter, covering application will go out 13th January.

We look forward to you joining us in 2005 until then safe and happy holidays."

"True this will work but it is so so slow due to very large overhead for each of the packet and if you are talking about VPN"

This is BS, you haven`t tested this. Check out the company Orsus. BT have a fin collabaration with several companies which solves these problems. I can`t believe you actually think a company that uses 100 000$ pr quarter has a bright future. I`ts laughable i would say. This i know because, i have been running a software business and i won`t get anywhere with that kind of money. BT uses ten times what CLYW uses pr quarter and they are of course expanding beacuse you need to do that if you`re gonna have success in a large scale. That`s why they bought another company with a connection manager solution and are now spending 2 million $ and in addtion to this they are working with Cisco, Symbian, HP, Motorola, Nortel, Alcatel, Capgemini, Ericsson and severeal others. They have 34 mobile operators as customers (Vodafone, 3, Telenor, Orange and so on. You actually think CLYW can compete alone with this, with 100 000$ pr quarter?

Strange logic there. It`s more like i`m telling you not to get you`re hopes up to high. Motorola and Birdstep are collabarating all ready. Motorola also have an alliance with Avaya and Proxim, but from what I`ve heard, they`re solution is poor and expensive for the enterprises.

well, maybe you didn`t know this, but a little Bird is a partner with motorola. There`s perhaps no room for Clyw?

http://www.birdstep.com/news/in_the_news.php3

I have to say for CLYW`s defence that things are taking a longer time than expected for Birdstep andre their competitor as well. The cell phone operators like T-Mobile, Verizon and so on are still at the level where they mainly have connectivitys software without seamlessness. This is provided from companines like Pctel and Alice Systems (Birdstep are about to buy Alice systems). But both Birdstep and competitors like Ecutel and Ipunplugged have recently been getting their first sales to large enterprises. Birdstep to national Grid through their collabaration with Cisco and Ecutel with a norwegian hospital and Ipunplugged with a electrity company. So it`s not to late for CLYW, but i think they are finished if they don`t get any proper sales in the next 5-6 months. Birdstep are expected too get orders from T.mobile, Nokia and Verizon, and i guess the competitors will get some as well. Next 5-6 months is crucial for CLYW.

But honestly i thin CLYW have slim to none chance of making success. With expenses at 100 000$ pr quarter they don`t have any real sales power and i don`t se CLYW having any major partners like Birdstep and all other competitors have. CLYW can`t make it alone, and they will surely not make it when they`re just spending 100K a month.

Very well. Agreement with National Grid yesterday. Also have agreements signed with Hp, Nortel, Alcatel, Symbian, Ericsson, Fujitsu Siemens, Motorola and are involved in talks with several handset vendors. Look out for Birdstep in first half of 2005. They`re hotspot company (Ownes a third) Aptilo is involved in the first full Wifi-city in Taiwan.

Well, back To CLYW. Why do they have such a laugable low expense in 3q? Is it beacuse they don`t have any employes?

Is this for real? I checked the 3Q report and if I`m not wrong total expenses in 3Q was 100 000$. That must mean that they don`t have any staff, 100 000$ is just laughable. Well, i was wrong Calypso is not broke yet, but they haven`t got any income and almost no staff, this one is going down.


And sorry Bob, i didn`t mean to answer you`re post, this was just a statement to the board.

Well there are to options:

1.The company is leaking massive insideinformation to selected investor, which is not good

2.You are not telling the truth. Which is not good.

It`s a loose loose situation.

Oh, sorry i just saw the -late filing- to SEC now. Well, the same thing all over again? Expect this time it will be harder to sell shares at a decent price. I have earlier said that i thought Calypso would be bankrupt by the end of the year, i still think so, if someone don`t by the company at 2-3 cent a share.

When is CLYW going to deliver their 2q? Anyone knows? Must be out of money soon? Last Quarter they sold shares at 70-90 cent, i guess they`ll have to sell at around 50 cent this time, if anyone is interested?

Nlightn try the Norwegian Oil company called DNO (it is only listed at OSE) it is priced really low considering cash position and revenue. For another small company you can look at CNR it is listed on Amex, but it is more of a risk company without proper income. But i would for sure look at Norway and Dno, we are an oil country after all.