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I hope that's not Churak!
Teachers pets!!!! lol..now why didn't I think of that.
RIGHT ON BERGE!
Edigokie...likewise to you, fine sir.
Cass lies like a rug....
they cancelled my old alias...drag and
boogie is a new one. Wasn't hiding anything. Fred knew it, so did a lot of others...oh, yeah, pickin' on cass was not a dead giveaway.
No matter, EDIG TO THE END.
To all the board moderators, please sit in the front row...heh heh.
Cork pulling at noon.
I trust my sorry ass to the mighty one.
May his decision be swift and just, actually he should let me free. To my friends...please vote more than once.
Unfortunately, I gotta go to a jobsite.
BBL.
Well, just in case, I just et some taters, possum, chicken livers, chitlins and gravy, turnip greens, okra, beans, mushrooms, onions and chili pepper. Thankyou for the wine bottle cork Ol Drummer, I'll need it.
At 11:59 AM tomorrow I'm having dessert...............EXLAX.
That should take care of the state of Florida and any smelly Marlins.
Then when they bury me fanny up, I'll flip this thing over so it smothers Saskatchewan.
Nail two birds with one "blow". heh heh.
Now, when my soul appears....watch out!
Hang down your head Tom Dooley, hang down your head and (burp) cryyyyyyy.
This time tomorrow, I'll be posting from a new IP.
not bad, eh? Now how can you fry such talent?
Remember Matt, shoot me first! if'n ya don't.......well....
I'm squeelin' about you and you know who!
Blackmail usually works.
Did ya see "The Green Mile"? Don't use that same dam generator, it musta had a Chevy engine in it, no guts.
Talk about a slow burn!
and no rice burner powered generators either.
HEMI POWER BABY!
Well, gotta finish these chitlins. :<(~
Make sure Churak sits in the front row!
OH and split up my EDIG shares (all 7 of them, evenly between ya'll). No fightin'.
Well, i gots 15 minutes Boss....maybe I'll think a sumpin'.
OK, I got my Frylist Ready..do we get matches?
(what the hell, if ya can't beat 'em, join 'em)
Hey Choo-rag..gettin' fiesty? Didn't mean to
hit your sore spot but you're so easy. Like I said it's that "short" syndrome.
You really believe in this jail stuff, don't you?
The only reason you can adhere to the rules is because you are a "yes" man. I'll bet your boss isn't a "yes" man. Doesn't get you anywhere in the real world, but how would you know that living on the premises here. Entrepeneurs don't kiss ass.
They kick ass.
I hope you're really looking forward to "Fryday"...guess it's something worth waiting for. That's how you keep the hired help happy...fringe benefits....... Exciting!
Try moving your bowels once in a while...it helps.
Well, back to the real world....see ya Mickey!
Churak.....thanks for the compliment......
there are many MEN out there like you that wish they could be
labeled as that. I realize some posters here such as you have a "short" problem but there are websites that could probably help you...BIG TIME!
But of course, if you really knew what you were doing, it wouldn't matter, would it?
I guess being here on the boards 24 hours a day relieves that problem.
Thanks for the reply.
Matt......
OK, I PROMISE to be a good IHUB poster. I will not chastise, degrade or even badmouth any poster on this board.
May I have my posting privileges returned?
Is there anything else I need to do?
Regards,
HRH
Our Boys need help....
our idiot politicians sometimes do stupid things.
your choosing.......
http://patriotpetitions.us/colwest/
there is a box to check or uncheck to subscribe to the newsletter on the bottom ...FYI.
wantoberich.........I know I'm late with this
and I ain't free cause of these slow jailbirds here......
but I would have submitted this one for your contest.....
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A little boy comes down for breakfast and his mother asks if
He has done his chores.
"Not yet." says the little boy.
His mother tells him that until he completes them, he won't be
getting breakfast.
Well, he's a little angry, so he goes to feed the
chickens and kicks one.
He goes to feed the cows, and kicks one of them too.
He goes to feed the pigs and kicks one of them right in the ass.
He goes back in for breakfast and his mother gives him a bowl of dry cereal.
"How come I don't get any eggs and bacon? And why don't I have
any milk on my cereal?" he asks.
"Well," his mother says, "I saw you kick a chicken, so you
don't get any eggs for a week. I saw you kick the pig, so you don't get any
bacon for a week either. I also saw you kick the cow, so for a week you
aren't getting and milk."
Just then, his father comes down for breakfast and kicks the
cat halfway across the kitchen. The little boy looks up at his mother with
a smile and says, "Are you going to tell him, or should I?"
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Hope ya'll liked that one..I'm outta time here again. Boy are they cheap with the posts here. It's worse than bread and water.
for the moron clinton lovers.
he weasels out of it again........
your tax dollars at work.....he gets a freebee.
They should charge his account, not ours.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/031103/11/md1u.html
With all the fat around here from the donut munchers, where are you going to find a couple of "big strong guys"? RB?
I think the ladies here would have a much better shot at it.
I wouldn't use the big busted ones as they may pack the wrong stuff in there with the fryers. If I am elected to be one of the "fryers"..please disregard the last sentence. I'll take a couple to go.
I think BobZ or Matt had a forklift laying around somewhere just for the occasion.
Wake up you inmates, it's dead around here.
That should generate a few responses.
Real Old drummer........
shutup ya old fart and get me out or I'm gonna whoop yur ass!
lol.
We have a wing? Where?
Hey Drummer I went 9.97 skatin' around in first with the old girl last Saturday. Felt real good. New motor should put me around 9.50's when I'm done playing with it.
Where's that old goat?
See ya.
LOL EDIGOKIE........
I know. I agree.
I think we'll be in here a long time. Least I've got good honest company.
Matts too busy daytradin' in the donut shop. Priority first.
Edigokie....hey Bud,
You are correct here in this post..
Posted by: Edigokie
In reply to: chwdrhed who wrote msg# 26311 Date:10/20/2003 12:47:06 PM
Post #of 26799
Check my past history - I don't have a record of attacking people. I do, however, get a little unwound when distortions, innuendo, and just plain ole lies get posted without repercussion. That has become the problem with this forum and I guess I will wind up staying here because I am not one of the bashers. They all seem to be alive and well and still posting garbage. If that philosophy requires that I remain in jail then so be it. Have a great edig day...
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they like the jackasses posting here because they get us riled up. No offense to the Jackass, at least it is a useful animal.
Ignore Churak, you're better off as he has a "little" problem.
Don't it stink when your own kind throw you in here? Yeah, SENT or Chowder need their asses kicked..lol...You big enough to handle 'em both?
HotrodHans
Matt.......
I hope ya don't mind I emailed your "inspiration" post out on my email list..
Very nice.
I flunked a few of them. I'll work on 'em.
This one in particlular is relevant to me..here.
24. To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it.
How long is my tunnel?
but I sure like this one......
20. Patience is the ability to idle your motor when you feel like stripping your gears.
Custom made for me. :>)
I guess I'll hafta but a Briggs and Stratton carb on the old "A". Did ya ever see my "BABY"...had her since 1971!
http://www.moparmuscle.com/pic12.html
I could take ya for a ride....it went 9.97@131 yesterday up at the "GROVE"..on pump gas...beats them crotch rockets hands down.
A few years ago the "GROVE" had a race called...."Drag and Boogie weekend" hence the handle. (it was a race and a dance/party at the track)
Anyway...
I would sure like my Hotrod handle back. Once you get Dasboot there isn't anyway of signing on to PM or reply to you.
and I explained what happened in a reply to AKVetch..
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1674676
I'm not a Yankee fan, heck I'm not even a Cubs fan but I know in my heart that goofball that caught that foul ball was from Florida. Why? He was probably a cotton pickin' orange picker...had a lot of practice.
So please ... don't ask me to be a friggin' yankee lover!
I've been to NY once. That was enuf. They all luv to salute you with their finger. I usually replied back in stereo.
This looks like a big week for my beloved EDIG... please at least consider some kind of allowance to post there.
I'm sorry I called you a "PUTZ".
****that Matthau was great*****
Grumpy and Grumpier Old Men were the best!
didn't have nuthin' ta do with Ann Margeret or Sophia being in there.....naw!
Well maybe!
AK, that is what I said and wrote. I couldn't post anymore because of DASBOOT so I emailed it to him. He didn't reply.
I simply made a mistake.
If you didn't take it out of context, why did you only post
"Matt the dipshit is back"?
Right after that I wrote "I thought the Marines got her".
That kind of explains what I was talking about.
You guys read things the wrong way sometimes (or just misunderstand as sometimes I/we don't explain things well).
It's a message board and it is extremely difficult to see emotions or facial expressions when writing posts.
Goodnite..I'm out of privileges.
AK.....that was my Walter Matthau impersonation..lol (rest his soul, he was great).....I didn't think Matt was so serious. I didn't mean anything by it. It was just "jail talk" and I've seen much worse than that here.
If I remember correctly, I emailed him something, (no record)either explaining to him something or apologizing but I don't think he read it or cared.
and this.............
Posted by: AKvetch
In reply to: HotrodHans who wrote msg# 15216 Date: 4/9/2003 5:01:48 PM
Post #
HotRod, calling Matt a dipshit won't get you out of the Jailhouse.
Matt the dipshit is back.
AK
AK you took that out of context....why? the original post was.....
Posted by: HotrodHans
In reply to: IH Admin [Matt] who wrote msg# 15200 Date:4/9/2003
:26:56 PM
Post #of 26759
YO MATTY AT IHUB......
I am pleased to announce that you, Matt Brown are the grand prize winner in our yearly EDIG drawing. You have won 13 dozen Krispy Kreme Donuts....all personally packed by Churak and taste tested by fung derf.
Chowderhead will dispense the winnings within 12 hours.
In order to claim your prize you must release all EDIG prisoners promptly.
If the prize is not claimed in 24 hours, all the moldy..er...fresh donuts will be awarded to Chowderhead.
Yahoo EDIG groups.
edit..forget it.. Matt the dipshit is back. I thought the marines got her.
fung derf...don't ask any questions....just perform
I explained to Matt I forgot the comma. (after Matt)
What I was saying was...
Matt, the dipshit (Cass) is back.
I guess he didn't believe me.
I never called him that.
Hey Matt!
What do you want me to do?
well phil,
i ain't holdin' my breath any more for any pics of K.
I gotta get out of here.
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now thats a patch of rubber!
that's simple, you pisses most ediggers off with youzes repetitive bullshit and then you relish in it like a 12 year old when someone gets nailed here. Matt told you that a long time ago..how fast we conveniently forget. it's a game for you, that's all. Most posters have a mate to play with to keep them busy.
hey this edit is great..in the rules......
Fryday:
Each Friday, we fry suspended members, starting around 11:30 am EST until Matt's lunch is over. If you are around, you might get the chance to fry the the suspended member of your choice. Just speak up.
only need one don't ya?
edit again:
on the bottom of the "profile page" next and previous are still bass ackwards from the rest of the site.
edit again
hey wthouston...uh, lmao....lighten up Dude. have a donut.
well, i really didn't think that was the reason. normally you don't give anyone a chance, it's just bootsville.
I didn't hide my name as it says hotrod right on my alias page.
heck, even mr. moderator ffred knew it immediately. my post was right before his.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1378727
I'm the guy who brought up to change the previous 50 and next 50 as they are bass akwards.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1469578
chowder replied.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1469603
you didn't answer.
i also asked for a board where if a poster got a little out of hand (not that i would ever do it) that post if the moderator thought it improper could send it there with a link saying it was redirected. chowderhead said he thought of that idea a little while back. at least that would allow us to still read it and give us the opportunity to "correct" it.
you replied to my post asking if there were any more ideas for monday and tuesday (this past)
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1640556
so, it looked like you knew it was me.
if i was hiding i sure would be low key which i was definitely not. heck, "drag and boogie", horsepower...if i was hiding i sure wouldn't use any of that stuff.
so, i claim not guilty......by reason of....uh.......old age??
heck....i forgot!
your call judge Matt.
besides, i can't get any kkd's from jail.
ps......if you fry me..please shoot me first. :>)
and since this may be my last post.......
that's my favorite too chowder....got any recipes?
ucansee....what a gal!
old drummer...yeah, i'm still full of it..lol.
ffred...pick a side and stick with it.
Bob Z needs a haircut...maybe more than one. all that hair is extra weight at the track.
cass....speaking of sure sounds like.
you amazingly imitate Don Bauder of the San Diego Trib.
I read a few of his articles. Very knowledgable person, he has access to accountants, lawyers, the SEC, he's very good at stock market info and rules. VERY GOOD.
He's in San Diego.
A person like him sure has a lot of pull with people and can easily negotiate favors, even sway decisions on bulletin boards.
and the clincher........he sure doesn't like
EDIG one little bit.
amazing. gotta go and do a little more digging. can't do anything here under lock and key.
and if UCANSEE is reading this.......thanks for the support!
chowder...do you like clamchowder? what kind?
Matt........
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1655524
i really do not know the other reason.
multi alias it isn't as you automatically get the boot.
whatever it is I WILL KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT AND NOT BADMOUTH ANY POSTERS I DO NOT LIKE and try and be a good old fart.
deal?
WHAT # KKD'S DO YOU LIKE?
mouth i agree, the other, if it is what chowder hinted at in a later post (multi-alias), no it is not as i didn't hide anything in my profile. it is there for you to see. even f-fred knew it and posted about it.
i hope i didn't do the your, you're thing.
if it's the gas from the donuts.............i am sorry. :<(
also, my reply to chowder, (who's OK in my books)
if it was anything here, i apologize.
Posted by: drag and boogie
In reply to: chwdrhed who wrote msg# 26563 Date:10/29/2003 10:20:58 AM
Post #of 26586
OK chowder, i know i jumped on freds case. i feel moderators shouldn't be allowed to be biased either way.
but if it wasn't that which got me here, yes, i do tend to pick on certain posters. only because i feel they occasionally post questionable or misleading info IMO.
when i questioned their comments and they don't reply, that to me is admitting guilt. better for them to ignore the question so they do not need to weasel their way out of it. owd is getting pretty bad at it.
that torques me off and my patience runs thinner than 0W-30.(synthetic)
I am sorry. i will be more restrained in the future. i will switch to Valvoline 20W-50 on the next oil change.(valvoline really smells when it is burned a little.....mmmmm)
D&B
ps to wantoberich.....kkd's give me brain gas. that's exactly what happened when i posted those bad things. the gas traveled up my spine and oh well............phhhht.
i like #6 and #8's, but they don't like me...lol.
thanks for the offer.
http://www.grin-reaper.com/flystory.gif
other than that??????????????
OK chowder, i know i jumped on freds case. i feel moderators shouldn't be allowed to be biased either way.
but if it wasn't that which got me here, yes, i do tend to pick on certain posters. only because i feel they occasionally post questionable or misleading info IMO.
when i questioned their comments and they don't reply, that to me is admitting guilt. better for them to ignore the question so they do not need to weasel their way out of it. owd is getting pretty bad at it.
that torques me off and my patience runs thinner than 0W-30.(synthetic)
I am sorry. i will be more restrained in the future. i will switch to Valvoline 20W-50 on the next oil change.(valvoline really smells when it is burned a little.....mmmmm)
D&B
ps to wantoberich.....kkd's give me brain gas. that's exactly what happened when i posted those bad things. the gas traveled up my spine and oh well............phhhht.
i like #6 and #8's, but they don't like me...lol.
thanks for the offer.
http://www.grin-reaper.com/flystory.gif
good morning Matt.
last thing i need is to put the jailhouse on my favorites list. ha.
OK, i'm SORRY for jumping on freds case but i feel he is not a fair monitor. he flip flops too much.
course, jmho.
i will not pick on any board monitor in the future and do my utmost too stick to the subject.
D&B
fred, they didn't say record quarter, now if i could only delete your post for BS'n. Why did you delete mine?
cass, if you actually knew all this for a fact i would believe it, but as usual it's just your opinion.
philo, if you were driving, you are definitely out of this country...lol. way north of cheeseville.
OT: well, i would not be flying around today
high radiation is on the way.
http://www.spaceweather.com/
click on the effects of the storm.
check out the gallery - beautiful pics.
orygun....
go here
http://www.edigital.com/news/events.html
click on the link ( the word "here")
follow the instructions. don't forget to turn off any anti pop up software or use the control key as stated.
usually a few minutes before it starts is when i log on.
good luck.
ps. turn up the sound..lol.
fred, i may be wrong but i think they said the asian oem is not a household name.
(edit) whoops Sent beat me to it.
Napster to Launch Pre-Paid Music Cards In Over 14,000 Retail Stores for the Holidays
Cards Will Make Music from Napster
Available Without Credit Cards By Mid-November
LOS ANGELES, Oct. 27 /PRNewswire/ -- Just 48 hours before its
highly-anticipated nationwide launch, Napster(R), a division of Roxio
(Nasdaq: ROXI), announced that millions of pre-paid cards for the popular
digital music service will be available for sale in nearly 14,000 retail
outlets by mid-November. The Napster Card will offer 15 downloads for $14.85,
allowing music fans -- for the first time -- to easily give the gift of
digital music through a gift card and bypass the need for credit cards to
permanently download music.
"The pre-paid card initiative is critical because it eliminates a
significant barrier to the legitimate digital music market: How to involve
teens and millions of other Americans who don't have credit cards," said
Napster President Mike Bebel. "With the Napster Card, you can give the gift
of music without worrying about picking the right band or the right album.
It's just the kind of gift we're all looking for this time of year. This will
instantly get the Napster brand into thousands of top retailers across the
country in time for the holiday season."
As Napster 2.0 goes live to America on Wednesday, the Napster Card program
will greatly extend the accessibility and visibility of Napster 2.0. The
Napster Card will be available for purchase at national and regional retailers
including: Best Buy, CompUSA, Kroger, Safeway, RiteAid, ExxonMobil, Duane
Reade, Diamond Shamrock and Speedway/SuperAmerica. More retailers will be
joining the program shortly.
Featuring the familiar Napster kittyhead logo, the plastic card closely
resembles a credit card. A scratch-off surface conceals a PIN that recipients
use to activate 15 credits for permanent downloads from the Napster service.
As always, music lovers are welcome to enjoy many other Napster features
free-of-charge, including: 30-second music clips, on-demand music videos,
decades of interactive Billboard charts, community features, and the online
music magazine Fuzz.
With this program Napster is capitalizing on the burgeoning pre-paid card
market recently embraced by other leading retail brands including McDonald's
and Starbucks. Retail distribution innovator InComm, a leader in prepaid and
stored value products, is partnering with Napster on what will be the first
mass-distributed music download card ever created. The U.S. stored-value card
market is expected to be worth $290 billion by 2006, according to Financial
Insights.
Napster 2.0 will significantly raise the bar for online music. It enables
fans to freely sample the world's largest and most diverse online collection
of music, featuring over half a million tracks. The revolutionary easy-to-use
interface allows users to quickly and easily download tracks, transfer songs
to portable devices or burn them to CDs for just 99 cents per track or $9.95
per album. In addition to the free online magazine, Billboard charts, music
videos, song clips and the ability to email tracks to friends and browse other
members' collections, serious music fans have the added option to upgrade to a
premium service that offers unlimited listening and downloading, over 40
commercial-free radio stations and a collection of interactive play lists and
community features, all for just $9.95 a month.
The Napster Card is the third Napster product on retail shelves
nationwide. Last month, Microsoft announced that Napster would be the
featured music service on Microsoft's Windows XP Media Center Edition 2004,
enabling music fans to experience Napster 2.0 from the comfort of their couch
using a TV and a remote control. Earlier this month, Napster unveiled the
Samsung Napster player, which is available for purchase in leading electronics
stores nationwide. The first in a family of portable music devices to come
from Napster's partnership with consumer electronics leader Samsung, the
player allows consumers to take their digital music library with them.
Napster 2.0 also supports almost all of the top selling digital audio devices
sold in the marketplace today.
About Napster
Napster(R) is the world's most recognized brand in online music. Napster
has content agreements with the five major record labels, as well as hundreds
of independents. Napster delivers access to the largest catalog of online
music with more than 500,000 tracks spanning all genres and artists from
Eminem to Miles Davis. Napster is a division of Roxio, Inc., (Nasdaq: ROXI),
the Digital Media Company, provider of the best-selling digital media software
in the world. Napster has offices in Los Angeles and New York.
Safe Harbor Statement
Except for historical information, the matters discussed in this press
release, in particular matters related to the launch of the Napster service,
net income (loss), relationships with certain corporate partners including
marketing partners and hardware and software manufacturers, relationships with
content providers, and product development, are forward-looking statements
that are subject to certain risks and uncertainties such as decreased demand
for our products, increased competition, failure to develop new products or
improvements to existing products, failure to maintain business relationships
with our partners and general economic conditions, that could cause actual
results to differ materially from those projected. Additional information on
these and other factors are contained in Roxio's reports filed with the
Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), including the Company's Quarterly
Report on Form 10-Q as filed with the SEC on August 14, 2003, copies of which
are available at the website maintained by the SEC at http://www.sec.gov .
Roxio assumes no obligation to update the forward-looking statements included
in this press release.
Copyright(C) 2003 Roxio, Inc. All rights reserved. Roxio and Napster are
either trademarks or registered trademarks of Roxio, Inc. or its subsidiaries
in the United States and/or other countries. All other trademarks used are
owned by their respective owners.
For further information, please contact Seth Oster of Napster,
+1-310-281-5027, seth.oster@napster.com , or Lauren Karp of Roxio, Inc.,
+1-408-367-4866, lauren.karp@roxio.com
owd...i'll ask you again
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1637455
just as i asked cass, does she think this is eDIG's fault?
she as usual failed to answer because she knows the answer is no,
and you owd, what is your answer?
just as i asked cass, does she think this is eDIG's fault?
she as usual failed to answer because she knows the answer is no,
and you owd, what is your answer?
sent..try this
http://video.kron4.com/?clip=1236562
March of the mini music drives
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103_2-5095188.html
By Ed Frauenheim
CNET News.com
October 22, 2003, 2:43 PM PT
Add your opinion
Forward in Format for
Look out, iPod.
Apple Computer's popular, portable music player is expected to face increasing competition, as more manufacturers adopt mini hard drives for music players.
Later this month, Dell is expected to include a 1.8-inch hard drive in its Dell Digital Jukebox portable MP3 player. That would essentially match the size of an iPod's hard drive. Meanwhile, Samsung and others are promoting players with a still-smaller drive from start-up company Cornice.
The push toward miniaturization is possible because more companies are getting into the small-drive business. Toshiba was the first major manufacturer of these drives, and Apple was able to obtain the bulk of the drives Toshiba produced.
Drive maker Hitachi Global Storage Technologies recently entered the fray. Hitachi has shipped 1.8-inch drives for an MP3 player made by Rio, and its 1-inch Microdrive is an option in MP3 devices other companies offer. A Hitachi spokesman said the company plans to announce next Tuesday that a music player made by a "household name" is using Hitachi drives with a 1.8-inch diameter. The spokesman declined to specify the customer.
Cornice also hopes its drives will rock the music-player market. Cornice has launched a 1-inch drive, which is being used in MP3 players from Rio and RCA. The drive is also part of a Samsung product that acts as a digital camcorder, digital still camera and MP3 player. The Samsung gadget is expected to be released next year.
A 1.8-inch hard drive has a 40GB capacity, which can translate into more than 650 hours of music. Cornice's 1-inch drive holds 1.5GB of data, about 26 hours of music, according to the company. A portable music player that uses flash memory rather than a hard drive can be more compact but will hold less data.
"In a number of months, we're going to be announcing more MP3 customers," Cornice spokesman Phil Gomes said. Gomes declined to specify how many of its drives have shipped so far, but he said Cornice's main manufacturing partner is very busy churning out the drives. "The factories are running full-out right now in Asia," Gomes said. "Demand has been very high."
Consumer electronics giant Sony said it is looking at the possibility of hard drive-based music players but that it has no plans to come out with one for the foreseeable future. Instead, the Japanese giant will concentrate for now on portable music devices that depend on minidiscs, flash memory or CDs, a Sony representative said.
Interest in hard drives for portable music players comes amid growing demand for disk drives in relatively new consumer applications such as personal video recorders. A burgeoning consumer electronics market for hard drives is one reason the hard-drive industry is enjoying a sunny outlook.
Research firm IDC expects the number of hard drives shipped in portable MP3 players to hit 1.8 million this year, up from 900,000 last year. In 2004, it expects the number to climb to 2.4 million.
IDC analyst Dave Reinsel said Toshiba, Hitachi and Cornice could find the personal music player arena more crowded still. "I certainly could imagine a Seagate" introducing a drive for the market, Reinsel said.
Although the music player market for hard drives is growing rapidly, it is a small fraction of the overall hard drive industry. IDC expects a total of more than 250 million hard drives to be shipped this year.
Rob Enderle, principal analyst with research firm the Enderle Group, said the Cornice product combines a relatively low cost with low power usage and robustness--meaning that the drive can survive a fair amount of physical abuse.
On the other hand, Cornice is competing with established manufacturers that offer products with more capacity. In addition, Hitachi is planning to release an upgraded 1-inch drive soon. That drive is now being tested by MP3 makers and holds 4GB, or 75 hours, of high-quality digital music, according to Hitachi. Hitachi has been selling a 1-inch drive with 1GB.
Dell and other manufacturers will also have to contend with the intangibles of the consumer electronics market. Style and design are big in that market. Apple has historically shown that it has a knack for design, something for which Dell is not known. Apple has also persuaded companies to build add-on devices, such as microphones, for the iPod.
Hard drives are one method of providing storage in portable music players. Flash memory, which involves holding data on silicon chips, is another. But flash memory is more expensive than hard drives on a per-megabyte basis, Enderle said. Although flash memory costs are declining, Enderle doesn't expect the price per megabyte to reach that of hard drives "for another three to five years--if then."
CNET News.com's Michael Kanellos and John G. Spooner contributed to this report.
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btw philo.
i bin into the digster before RB and IHUB.