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Getting word that they're close to or have finalized at least one dealership. Will be aggressively adding to my position starting Friday to bring my average down and prepare for gains. I agree .03-.05 sounds realistic, but we saw this thing go to .11 on the pump in February, so with volume coming in and news pending, anything's possible.
Eversull is pissed. He emails that he will only release public information to people on email and that we all have to wait for PR for anything else like everybody else. So, I post what he tells me here (the mid-October crap) and he gets mad.
This guys are pretty rinky-dink, no doubt, but I do get the feeling that they're working on something meaningful. I know we've heard that before, but sooner or later something's got to break. Let's just hope it breaks in the right direction.
And, as far as Best Buy goes, I know, for a fact that EVCA dropped the ball there. I still cannot get over a dev stage company not even talking to a Fortune 500 company. Unreal. They might have gotten something out of it. Or maybe not, but if they want to talk, you make it happen and go out of your way to make it work. Not doing so is a lesson in incompetence. Heck, Best Buy is on record as saying, we're talking to EV startups, etc... Unreal.
Maybe you guys could try to email Mack. He will not talk to me. Eversull claims that they are working on something pretty meaningful that could be finalized by mid-October. Says he cannot say more. I have little faith in what any of them say, but, at this point, there's really no option other than to hold out hope. Their mismanagement of this thing burnt many of us. Hey, we all make mistakes, I guess. Such is life. Anyhow, hopefully we look back on this and laugh as they prove our pessimism wrong someday. I am even pessimistic about that.
It is. Very. BUT. Hang tight.
Soon. I hope.
Wow. This is sad. And nobody's talking over there, except Eversull with the same old crap.
I still have an up and coming EV exec at a Fortune 500 company ready and willing and actually wanting to talk to EVCA. For some reason, they refuse to engage this person. As a dev stage company they should be tripping over one another to make it happen. I don't get it.
We need the company to come out and confirm that they are not going under because, at this stage, it appears that that's what is happening. I don't know, but they're not saying a word so all that is left is to speculate.
It's a shame because if they managed this thing well it would be doing a heck of a lot better than it is.
I could not agree more. Investors need to call them and hammer them and demand answers. Non-stop. Relentlessly. This is not some game, yet they continue to ignore us, even as we've been right all along about how they have and have not handled things.
Jack Eversull: jack@theeversullgroup.com
Mack Sanders: mack@evcarco.com
Scott O' Neal: scott@evcarco.com
evacarcoinc@gmail.com
I am serious. This is nonsense. We can make things happen over there if we band together.
You've done a 180. Don't be so typical and predictable. See both side. They can suck and still have potential all at the same time.
And Mack, the genius "CEO" that he is, did not even PR it or mention it in the interview that forced the stock into sub-penny territory. He will not answer my emails any longer; of course, he'll say it's because I am being rude and unprofessional. I have also been right and told them what would happen before it did.
This thing is a shame. It could and should be going so much better than it is.
I wonder if we should look into our options.
That worthless hack Eversull emailed today: "Hopefully something soon." Pathetic.
For the record, I don't think the SEC should get involved. That's a bit off. I am just stating that if they had competent leadership and PR we would not be where we are now. Things would be better. That's all.
It's an absolute disgrace. I am not sure how Eversull and Sanders sleep at night. Communication with investors is worse today than it was during the "quiet period."
I set them up with Best Buy, on a silver platter, nothing. I told them, flat out, the stock would go to sub-penny if the video was a dud. I more than encouraged them to publicize the car sales, they refused. I did what I could to get the Dezer news out there, but they signed a horrible contract that apparently prohibits them from talking.
They have no vision. No strategic abilities. They are an absolute disgrace. We just need a pump and dump or something so we can get the heck out of this thing. What a shame.
It's been thin for months. I am very concerned that they are going to fold at a moment's notice. How much longer can they go with the crap from Eversull that they'll have news "soon... I hope."
Good point.
I've done all I can do. I got them in touch with Best Buy... twice. I broke the Dezer news for them (it did nothing). I told them to PR the car sales; they refused. I have been on their butts, relentlessly, for months. Nothing, but the same responses. I am confident it's not a scam; Eversull and Sanders are simply not competent.
2.3M shares at .02. It's a lotto ticket now. Guess it always has been, though.
While I have come to have ZERO faith in these guys, I am hearing that they might finally have meaningful news to break soon. Going to sit on the bid and buy more shares. Could be a good time to load up, but we've heard that before. You know, "the ask is thin." :;
More of the same from Eversull--
This really has become a complete joke. Mack Sanders and Jack Eversull are both completely and totally inept. Eversull should be cut loose immediately. As for Mack, it would look bad to fire him so they need to hire a new CEO, make Mack token COO and spin it as we scored a really good CEO therefore the move only made sense.
Again, these guys have butchered this thing. At various steps along the way, investors tried to help them. We told them to PR the car sales, but Mack said it's in the 10Q, there's no need to PR. It's not in the 10Q. A number is in there that does not translate to the car sales like a PR could. And nobody reads the filings anyway. The overarching point is not so much about the car sales as it is about their lack of a clue when it comes to promoting the business. And, in some fashion, that's supposed to be Eversull's job.
We also warned them against doing the video. In fact, many of us emailed warning them that the stock would plummet to sub-penny if the video was full of nothing. Here's an email I sent Eversull on 7/26. Pardon the typos, but I stopped proofreading for him a long time ago. He's barely worth the time to even write the email in the first place---
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Rocco Pendola to Jack
show details Jul 26
You do realize that EVCA risks losing its credibility here, right?
First, they said 4 dealerships in 2011. Therefore, that video better include not talk of 'we will do this and do that,' but we ARE opening a dealership and here's the address.
Second, if they do not release this video this week, preferably today or tomorrow, again you guys gave a date and did not follow through.
Third, okay fine, the video comes late... it better knock people's socks off. If it is fluff and talk about what they want to do people have heard it all before and this goes sub-penny and says there.
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Investors in this company have tried to help every step of the way. But they refuse to listen. It's a sad shame.
And there's more... but what's the point?
Until this management team and Eversull, who is not worth a fraction of a share for his useless "services," show something other than passiveness, we're in for more pain.
I am astonished, really.
How in the world do you agree to a contract with somebody like Dezer that says (A) you cannot go public with our agreement and (B) there's no guarantee that I will do anything with the five states you've given away to me? I don't understand. Where's the value? In the hope that Dezer might, someday, before it's too late, get around to opening a dealership? No, the value is in having this connection with a multi-billionaire and being able to publicize it with firm wording-- as in HE OWNS THE SOUTHEAST. What a joke.
And I am still stunned that Eversull and Sanders do not have enough creative bones in their bodies to craft a PR that says, here's where we are are on the dealership front, BUT even without a dealership we just sold X cars over the last ten days and took in $150K in revenue. That's leaps and bounds above deciding to do a PR that says we took a trip to China, we received one truck, we met with somebody in San Antonio and we have an interest in acquiring active dealerships.
Again, astonishing.
They should have told Dezer, there's little value in this for us without some guarantees and/or publicity.
And they need to understand how to legitimately promote things. When you have real information, craft it into a killer PR! Don't rely on what is really not even newsworthy or some absolutely horrible video. This things drive down the stocks of companies like this.
I have worked as hard if not harder than these guys to make things happen for them. I have even gotten some big boys interested in talking to them, but my guess is they've dropped the ball there as well.
So passive. So unsure how to proceed.
And it's sad because with competent and creative people, they could make something of this and drum up some interest, which could lead to investment, etc. After all, EVs are sort of a hot topic right now. They just have no clue as to how to play it from a media and publicity standpoint. It's all on Eversull and Sanders.
I own over 2 million shares of this dog. I am tired of being told to be patient. I am tired of being treated like a pain when I make a call for action.
If you own shares in this company, email them. Call them. Demand action. There is no reason for this company to be floundering like this when you look at the prices of other small and dev. stage EV stocks. Based on those valuations, EVCA should be right there with them or at least closer than they are now.
The difference between EVCA and, say, ZAAP or GACR-- management and promotion. EVCA has no clue. They've proven this. They poke in the dark.
Let's hope the white knight that was written about on the other site comes through because the current team has proven they are absolutely incompetent.
For the record, I have talked to Best Buy executives and they will not be selling EVs. You can read my articles about it-- the content comes straight from the company-- at Seeking Alpha. If anything, Best Buy's EV projects could help EVCA.
That said, I agree. I am getting concerned about what I sense as general ineptness from this company on all fronts. They need to do something. And fast. Or we'll need to ring up Ascendancy10 to bail us out!
I'd welcome another pump and dump with open arms. :->
These guys have done some meaningful things, but might be the most passive company, penny or otherwise, I have ever come across in my life. They would have been better off telling Dezer, "No deal unless we can PR it." What does he do for them with no PR and no guarantee from him that he will ever open a dealership in the Southeast? Nothing, he just makes them look like shady amateurs. And to not PR car sales shows a complete misunderstanding on the part of Mack Sanders and Jack Eversull and whoever else makes these decisions on how to credibly market this stock through PR. They're in the 10Q is such a lame reason not to PR them. First, nobody reads the 10Q. Second, you cannot pull them out of a 10Q. A PR could clearly illustrate them for investors.
Mack's in a bit over his head. On the other board, somebody rumored that he might be out as some sort of deal involving a dealership and a new CEO. Let's hope that happens.
If they announce a dealership, I have to think the PPS pops considerably. At this point, I just want out about half of my position above my average, which is .02, by the way.
Good luck to everybody here.
I am not sure what this stock needs to go up.
A billionaire practically owns the company in 5 states. It's brought in sales of 150K in the last 10 days without a dealership open and it trades at a penny .01. Other EV stocks make outrageous claims with no business today and trade over a buck.
It's frustrating. But, I tell you this, the day will come. This cats are working their butts off. That's for sure. And they're talking to the right people, believe. It would make your head spin. I'm not going to even look at the share price after Friday morning until Monday night (going away). It's probably good to take a break. I need one.
I found something out yesterday that, in my mind, is absolutely huge news. For some reason-- and he's the man in charge so he must have good-- Mack Sanders says it is not worthy of a PR. I disagree. If they let me, I will blog it, but I am not going to say anything on this one, however, unless I get the green light.
As for Dezer, they have no options on that-- the contract they signed with him does not allow them to disclose the deal. That's why when I found definitively I went with it. That NEEDS to be out there.
Anyway, what I got yesterday-- put it this way-- it puts them above G.CR, for instance, which trades at around 1.30.
I hope they PR this. I cannot understand why they would not. It would instill a TON of confidence and show everybody the true potential of EVCA. The real, concrete, $$ potential.
I can only post once per day, which is why I do not respond to people immediately. I am as frustrated as anybody. I know, for a fact, that Dezer has the rights to the territory. No offense Rustler, but you have no clue. Why hasn't he opened a dealership yet? I don't know. Call him and ask him. It would be better than shooting your mouth off without an actual informed opinion. You and others, myself included sometimes, expect things to just happen. You don't open a car dealership overnight no matter how much money you have. And, for the record, Dezer HAS SOLD EVCA product and HE ASKED FOR MORE. I assume he has gotten it by now.
But, I digress. So, yeah, it frustrates me as well that they company has this amazing news, yet does not report it. I hope they plan on it.
And I also hope they plan on reporting the actual units they are selling, NOW, without a dealership.
There are other things going on that they cannot talk about yet. But, I know that one is major.
And do you know that this company is REAL and not going for some quick pump and dump? They were offered a financing deal after another company lost the deal. And they turned it down because it did not feel right. Not desperate in the least, obviously. They are making the right long-term choices. And it takes time, as opposed to the other crap we see other OTCs pull.
whiz-it's not a P&D. A P&D was executed by some "investors" several months ago, but it's not a company-run P&D. If it were -- and there are examples even in the EV space -- the company would put out extra ordinary PRs with promises of billions in revenue to come.
If anything, EVCA is the opposite... they are not aggressive enough and they do not report that billionaire Dezer owns the rights to an entire territory or that, without a dealership even open, they are selling cars.
They're running a real company and trying to build it for the long-term. Heck, Mack Sanders wins big at .20, .40, .60, .80, and 1.00. It's in his interest to get this thing up. He refuses to do it below board. He has told me that straight up.
Buy shares on the cheap, friends.
Someday we'll look back on this and it will all seem funny.
This is the morning to buy, friends. Here's hoping for what I think could be an interesting week.
Great to see Old Biker posting. I hope you are doing well and that health is your top priority. We just lost the Big Man Clarence Clemons tonight. I am devastated by the news, so I have to say, Old Biker, BE WELL!
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Next week should be telling...
Use Monday to load up people.
Guys, I am telling you buy this stock today or Monday. This is not the time for skepticism and dwelling on the past. If I am wrong -- meaning if we do not see seriously positive multiple releases accompanied by share price appreciation between now and the next 8 trading days -- I will keep my mouth shut. If I am wrog, EVCA as a company and stock will have, in some respects, failed me. I might even have to considering trimming my stock. I would still keep a good portion because the long, long-term view remains entact in my opinion. Anyhow, I am quite confident you'll be happy. Take some cues from the corporate update; what was in there, what was not. And know, that the Dezer deal IS done, whether they report it or not. I KNOW, for face, that the territory is his. Good luck. I suggest you buy while it's under .02. Past that point, we all know how this thing runs.
Give it 9 more trading days. Next week is pivotal. I firmly believe it represents a turning point toward sub-penny or considerably higher. http://www.composedtrade.com/?p=40
So much good stuff happening in EV land as well. I wish I could say more.
Give this stock another week to ten trading days. I am telling you, it likely makes sense to hold that much longer and, if you have some confidence, accumulate. If after a week to ten days, you do not liek what you see, I would have no counter to your decision to sell and even bash.
The pressure is on. EVCA knows it. It's go time. And I think they are set to come through. Don't judge it by the first PR. Just give them a week to to ten trading days. So, two weeks.
I think this strategy will make you happy. There shares are cheap and, relatively speaking (see gacr, zaap, alev, etc.), incredibly undervalued.
Man, if I knew OB better, I would be like don't worry about EVCA, you sonofa... and just focus on getting better. OB and Clarence Clemons fall ill in the same day... yesterday was not a good morning!
Anyway, onto less important things...
If you have not read my EVCA news: http://www.composedtrade.com/?p=40
Do it now and think about what this means. And think about these prices. I doubt they'll be this low forever.
This would be the morning to buy. You know the real deal on the Dezer news now. This and other things on the horizon make EVCA one of the Best Buys out there.
Of course, dilution occurs. How do you think they pay for stuff? They're dev stage. So common. But, relative to most other pennies, the share structure here is pretty darn good.
Consider my articles Monday morning. http://www.composedtrade.com/?p=63 is the latest and probably last on the subject until something meaningful happens. Think about the implications of Dezer and the other things happening that you and we have no idea about?
I made another post on EVCA. http://www.composedtrade.com/?p=63 Unfortunately past events, like when the stock was run to .11, have scared people away. They're hestitant. Ask yourself this, though... how can other EV stocks (GACR, ALEV, ZAAP) trade where they are... and EVCA with a billionaire in charge of five states, cars being sold w/o dealerships even open, dealerships on the way (I have been told "we would not have said four this year if we could not do four this year"), significant partnerships brewing, and the Auctus funding??
My info IS true. And I should have just looked at the map on EVCA's website to figure out the states! Never even occurred to me. Anyhow, you remember what happeend to $GWAY when Robert Silverman took over the shell, correct? With EVCA, we have a multi-billionaire who owns property all across the world, namely in So Flo and Manhattan... he appears to have started American Electric... he has SOLD the cars EVCA sent him and has requested more...
BUT MORE SO... he effectively owns the business in 5 states and Puerto Rico. A successful multi-billionaire runs EVCA in 5 states and PR!! And this is not all that they have going on. Not even close. To see other dev stage EV stocks trading higher is beyond baffling. There's actually real value here. Be patient longs, but, if there's any justice, my news has spread and this will run today and stay where it belongs, if you compare it to other dev stage ev stocks, an that's closer to .50 than .01.
Good luck!
http://www.composedtrade.com/?p=40
Major EVCA news, Dezer-related. This is THE story. http://www.composedtrade.com/?p=40
Because there IS news COMING! How many times do I have to tell you cats!! Ya, might want to buy.
Don't believe the negative hype. Just because we did not hear things on our timeline doesn't mean things are dead, Dezer and otherwise. In fact, it's quite the opposite. I am telling you, accumulating some of these .013's on the ask right now would be wise. Mark this post.