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I am in Utah, so not far from you and I got mine yesterday.
Might be mailed? I already received mine, so they have mailed.
OK, good. Otherwise I was very nervous for you!! Yes, I also laugh at those that post hyperbole about a leak, especially when it is only a few million shares and has only moved a penny. Tell me about a leak when it is at 100 million shares and moved a buck or so.
Have a great day!
Are you kidding me???
Of course it has!! Haven't you been paying attention to the Debt Ceiling talks and all the other talks about our countries credit rating etc. Have you noticed that the market in general has gone down around 9 days in a row. Has nothing to do with just JPM and definitely nothing to do with WAMU.
Anybody have any idea why the volumes is up today?
Oh great, just because you point out two instances, then it all must be true. The law must be the law because of two examples. Give me a break, there are also many instances throughout history where people and companies have gotten around the law.
Haha, yeah, you are definitely right about that!!!
Maybe you are right. Guess I didn't like the word "good" in front of it. Good chance, means a high percentage, but he has no idea if it is 10% (a bad chance) or 75% (a good chance). It is a total guess on his part, not a good chance.
I read this and the yahoo boards everyday, along with anything else I can find. I hardly ever say anything, because it would all be a guess. But, every once in a while it does get on my nerves to see the clutter of absolute guesses, that are portrayed as more than a guess. Should I let it irritate me, probably not. But, I am human.
That is a total guess by both of you. You have nothing to back that up. People have been talking about settlement talks for two years now. Will believe it when we see it. Please don't just GUESS!
I AM NOT getting a warm fuzzy while reading this!!
"Strong" doesn't mean right. Goliath was strong, and he got killed. Strong can also be turned to Stubborn. Stubborness can often lead you down the wrong road.
MR. S didn't say it, an INDEPENDANT EXAMINER DID!!! The Law is NOT the Law. MEN are the law. A law is only as good as the men that uphold it!!
Where's DG? THE LAW IS THE LAW!!!!! Tried to tell you many times that the law is only as good as the men (women) behind that law.
Stop with the "Tanking" already. JPM has been to $38 plenty of times in the last year. Plus, if you were playing attention, you would know that it is due to the new report today on unemployment. Most financial institutions are down because of this.
And because people lie, cheat and steal, especially the government and big business, nothing is a sure thing! They have in the past and could now overcome numbers with lying. I hope it doesn't happen, but being overly confident has doomed many.
And look at it swing right back down. There isn't enough volume to support it. Manipulation! It means nothing.
Time will come and we will see. Others in the past have been just as adament with some of their dates. Look back to last July - Sept, you will see some opinions that are just as adament for settlement in that timeframe. So, I will believe it when I see it. When dealing with courts and the law, nothing is as solid as you make it seem. Expect the unexpected.
It seems most everyone on this board has suggested a settlement date or timeframe based upon their DD, hunches, projected news, court dates, etc. To date, hundreds and thousands of settlement date posts, ZERO correct. I will just throw this one on the junk heap with the rest.
Settlement date posts are useless. The facts are fine, the date is where you lose me.
Thanks!!! Although I read the board everyday, I rarely post. But, with this valuable news, I just had to tell somebody!!!
XOM - thanks. Tried going through all the posts, but must have missed this if the link was posted before!! Sure wish we knew what it is.
I have seen some posts on different boards about Susman entering in a document "under seal". Does anyone have any info. on this? When did he do this? Etc.
I love sections 6 and 9 of:
6/2/2010 4471 The TPS Consortium's: (A) Supplemental Submission in Furtherance of Its Motion to Compel Debtors' Production of Documents; and (B) Objection to the Debtors' Motion to Impose Discovery Limitations and Procedures
Again, you are completely wrong. I NEVER SAID IT MUST BE HAPPENING IN THIS CASE". You are assuming something I never said. All I said is that it HAS happened in the past, so it COULD happen in this case. What is wrong with saying that. I am just saying to understand that all things are possible. Diamond is the only one that is going to an extreme by saying it is 100% not possible that we will lose, because the law is the law. I am just saying keep the realm of possibility open that the law could be corrupted. What is wrong with that?????
And you are wrong again. Are you going to tell me a DOJ hasn't looked the other way before on a case. even a big case??? It happens and can easily happen again. For you to say 100% that it cannot happen, again, exposes you as a sham.
I am not saying it is going to happen and I really hope it doesn't, because I am here to make money on my investment, but I (you) have to be realistic about all possibilities. If you cannot be realistic and use history as your guide, then you are deceiving yourself and others.
Sorry, but I will continue to state that is the lamest line ever. The law may be the law, but that doesn't mean the law is going to be followed. It has been proven time and again throughout history that the law isn't always followed. Corruption, payoffs, blatent lies, sex, etc. have all been used to skirt the laws and very well may be used in this instance as well. You cannot know without a doubt that corruption will not be a part of this case and will not influence the final outcome. If you state otherwise, then you are exposing yourself as a sham.
Corruption and greed have influenced the law many times throughout history. THAT IS A FACT! So again, the law may be the law, but you cannot guarantee that it will be followed.
What happened to "THE LAW IS THE LAW..."
What happened to "THE LAW IS THE LAW..."
What happened to "THE LAW IS THE LAW..."
Man, you are combining things that shouldn't be. Nobody ever said that fake post had anything to do with the decline today!
I will definitely agree with the part about him disappearing. I thought the same thing several times throughout the day!!
Great, thanks
Thanks fsshon
Can someone please remind me of the conversion for Frankfurt!
Give me a break. You are jumping the gun. There are a million things in could be. Quit with the hype!
How do you know they are an interesting company if you don't even know what they do??
Guys, First and foremost you need to remember that we are in this as INVESTORS. Our primary goal when we put our money into a stock is to make a profit and in this case our goal was to make a hefty profit. That is goal number ONE. Anything outside of that is gravy. So, if this makes me money, but nothing else happens, then I will still be satisfied that the goal was accomplished. You can't invest with our heart and you can't get caught up in all the other stuff. It is all secondary. Nothing wrong with rooting for justice, but not to the point that you start overlooking the primary goal.
FSSHON, It appears that it spiked after the news that the Judge denied the request to disband the EC. We were down a little before that, then saw spike shortly after the release of that information. If it isn't that, then I don't know what it is.
You obviously didn't read all my posts and understand my point.
I forgot to say, that my point is that there are numerous ways for the MM's to make money, besides short manipulation. In no way am I trying to say that the MM's aren't doing their dirty business, as we all know what their role is and what they do. BUT, the chances are that the drop in price is due to one of the various other ways they make money, instead of the overused "helping the shorts cover". Just saying that excuse doesn't need to be thrown out there like they know what they are talking about, when they really have no clue. Just chalk up the drop to the MM's making money, not to the specific way they are making money, when they really don't know!!!