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rudyboy

02/25/12 7:27 AM

Post #10,011

Re: #10,010: @Impact007 - It's just an uneducated guess, like everyone else's

thx to all for the answers

Impact007

02/25/12 3:53 AM

Post #10,010

Re: #10,003: @rudyboy - thats something i don't understand, diluting if they

It's just an uneducated guess, like everyone else's on here. We won't know until it is filed and set in stone. So for now, everything is just a wild guess.

germoney2

02/25/12 3:35 AM

Post #10,005

Re: #10,003: @rudyboy - thats something i don't understand, diluting if they

In my experience the outline of such a deal would be:

>CHRI and HBRM-board check the logic of the transaction and whether both sides are interested in an aquisition. (They are)
>conditions for the deal are determined between the owners/managers(price,future management involvement, earn out-clauses etc., under certain assumptions being made)
>Management of HBRM informally agrees to the deal, so the majority of the capital is "safe" for CHRI. Now it is required an officiel bid for all shareholders (up to 100%) but it is not really necessary for CHRI to take up all shares to gain control.
>officially the LOI is announced by both sides to show the real interest (That´s where we are now)
>The official DD starts, verifying the assumptions made before in the negotiations ( takes 1-2 weeks)
>afterwards the deal is (hopefully) confirmed and put into a contract, the price will be made public.
>If the shareholders agree (remember, HBRM-board has given the committment already), the offer will be executed and you get CHRI-shares or cash or whatsoever.
>If not, you stay with your shares as they are.

=> Since my assumption is that the real deal is already done, I do not think there will be a bidding up in the price, the 100% qouta would only be good for efficiency, taking HBRM from the stock exchange. but that can be done later as well.

Be aware: I am long since 2 years in CHRI

Wildcard

02/25/12 3:31 AM

Post #10,004

Re: #10,003: @rudyboy - thats something i don't understand, diluting if they

next PR must have some sort of buyout info. Ie prices/shares being issued.

If we see no such thing, this is will be a massive fail.

rudyboy

02/25/12 3:20 AM

Post #10,003

Re: #10,002: @Impact007 - I like your thoughts on HBRM so far.

thats something i don't understand, diluting if they are working for an buyout.
Would this be another scam ????

Impact007

02/25/12 3:02 AM

Post #10,002

Re: #9,983: @livinginstyle - Oh and one more thing. Before the dilution

I like your thoughts on HBRM so far. 1 guess could also be that HBRM ceo is diluting, purposely making the price fall to entice people to sell, then repurchasing it at a lower price. I notice CSTI has also been accumulating low as it dumps at a higher price. Once this deal closes, it's definitely a win for them. If they are going at it like i think they are, then it would be wise to hold a small position, nothing big, as a gamble.

Impact007

02/25/12 2:27 AM

Post #10,001

Re: #9,990: @MNYC - HBRM .0005 next week

that would be a dream come true! Funds won't clear til Tuesday though =/

MLR_Lite

02/25/12 12:14 AM

Post #10,000

Re: #9,999: @alltrading - When do we think we will have this buyout???

Great question. To have the other company offer this week and then us sign the LOI today, sounds great.

The normal scam LOIs don't follow this pattern, so I felt good enough to invest today. I would love to see an announcement of finalization next week.

alltrading

02/25/12 12:02 AM

Post #9,999

When do we think we will have this buyout???
i wish it would be monday

leejoness

02/24/12 10:30 PM

Post #9,998

Re: #9,990: @MNYC - HBRM .0005 next week

No way .0005; Fast&Slow STOCHS have reset to "O" and we're gonna rocket next week !!!!

integracer02

02/24/12 9:40 PM

Post #9,997

Let's say that this happens of .0070 per share do we continue tradin to that price or do they purchase them from us at that pps.Tia sorry for the stock101 questions

Go HBRM

AntiMarketMaker

02/24/12 9:32 PM

Post #9,996

Re: #9,995: @jcabrer - I've been trading for a while but have

otcpk buyouts hardly finalize lol I have played many. when they do merge, the price of the new company plumets.

jcabrer

02/24/12 9:30 PM

Post #9,995

Re: #9,993: @jcabrer - Anybody wanna take a guess on buyout price?

I've been trading for a while but have never been involved in a buyout.. Wish I could help... I would assume both parties would have lawyers to agree upon terms, then release the details of them in a pr... However they could be in negotiations for a while.. Or worst case scenario one party could decline. Terms

integracer02

02/24/12 9:26 PM

Post #9,994

Re: #9,993: @jcabrer - Anybody wanna take a guess on buyout price?

Can someone teach an inexperienced trader how the buyout process works from the share holders perspective if and when this happens.Tia

Go HBRM

jcabrer

02/24/12 9:20 PM

Post #9,993

Anybody wanna take a guess on buyout price? Time to complete buyout ?

AntiMarketMaker

02/24/12 9:17 PM

Post #9,992

Re: #9,931: @PipBoy - Dilution City :-)

They wont believe you. They trust the company

browland1

02/24/12 8:49 PM

Post #9,991

Re: #9,990: @MNYC - HBRM .0005 next week

I Hope so,so I can Load the SHIP,instead of My Boat

MNYC

02/24/12 8:23 PM

Post #9,990

Re: #9,968: @PipBoy - Nope. 0.001's on monday :)

HBRM .0005 next week

StockGod

02/24/12 7:08 PM

Post #9,989

Re: #9,974: @specutator - I feel good holding my shares over the

I def agree with you on that one.
Im holding strong until the deal is done.

elks

02/24/12 6:31 PM

Post #9,988

just got back in well added more and holding till the deal is done im in the red overall here but not worried at all HBRM solid dd HBRM will come threw......glta

Rickockulous

02/24/12 5:50 PM

Post #9,985

Re: #9,984: @livinginstyle - CHRI CEO and a movie of operations. Click

Thanks for the great DD. Keep it up. Following you now.

livinginstyle

02/24/12 5:47 PM

Post #9,984

CHRI CEO and a movie of operations. Click on red arrow.

http://chinahealthresource.com/886/

livinginstyle

02/24/12 5:25 PM

Post #9,983

Re: #9,982: @Rickockulous - Agreed. 90% of my portfolio is big board

Oh and one more thing. Before the dilution started, insiders owned almost 70% of outstanding shares. That means they also benefit from a higher price per share final offer.

Rickockulous

02/24/12 5:20 PM

Post #9,982

Re: #9,981: @livinginstyle - IMO, there is hope. I have done my

Agreed. 90% of my portfolio is big board stocks and options. But occasionally I will dabble in the pennies if the DD proves to be solid. So I'm all in on HBRM.

As another poster said, this thing is up 135% on the week. Out of the past 5 days, 4 have been considerably green. We've had our pullbacks, our consolidation, our profit-taking...all healthy. Next week, when they release the buyout details we will fly.

I really hope they release the buyout numbers this weekend so we can squeeze the shorts, gap and run.

Go HBRM.

livinginstyle

02/24/12 5:15 PM

Post #9,981

Re: #9,978: @carlospit007 - loosing 5k with this one!! still holding :(

IMO, there is hope. I have done my DD on this one and made a buy today at .0027. I don't usually trade penny's any more but I do occasionally. I have determined that CHRI is a real company and they grow through acquisition. They want an avenue into the US that eliminates import fees and HBRM is that source. I have a feeling the buy out price could be higher than we have anticipated due to the value and liquidity of the US markets. HBRM sells its products in the United States, the United Kingdom, and continental Europe through a network of distributors, specialty retailers, and e-commerce. This distribution network alone has to be worth a lot of money not even taking HBRM's product line and established sales into consideration. Here is an explanation or a list of HBRM's products that will be available to add to CHRI's product line to be sold everywhere in China and Asia:

Herborium Group, Inc. provides natural and complementary healthcare related products to consumers and healthcare professionals. The company engages in the development, license, and marketing of botanical based medicinal products. It offers dermatology products, which include AcnEase, a herbal medicine product for natural acne and rosacea treatment; and AcnEase Skin Management System for the treatment of acne marks/scars. The company also provides sexual health and performance products that are non-prescriptive alternatives to selected sexual disorders resulting from cardiovascular disease, use of anti-depressants, and even surgical procedures, including hysterectomy. In addition, it offers energy restoration products, such as Lasting Energy, a herbal supplement to combat stress, depletion of energy, jet-lag, and hangover; and for treating overall depletion of energy due to competitive sports, high levels of stress, and extensive sexual activities, as well as other long term or temporary physical demands. Further, the company's products under development include the Liver Activator Series for the treatment of liver damage; ProstAid, an all natural product focused on Benign Prostate Hyperplasia; ProstCare, a product that targets Prostatitis; and CardioVitae, a fermentation based product using a Lucidium derived cell line targeting cardio-pulmonary insufficiencies.

carlospit007

02/24/12 5:10 PM

Post #9,980

Re: #9,979: @81bob - Lots of hope, but facts point to deal.

well still on this ship!!!

81bob

02/24/12 5:04 PM

Post #9,979

Re: #9,978: @carlospit007 - loosing 5k with this one!! still holding :(

Lots of hope, but facts point to deal. This is going up

carlospit007

02/24/12 5:01 PM

Post #9,978

loosing 5k with this one!! still holding :( any hope?????

livinginstyle

02/24/12 5:00 PM

Post #9,977

Re: #9,972: @specutator - Part of what you say is true, but

Again, you are clueless.

The M&M has no clue whether it is a short or a normal sell. Shares really do not go from your broker to the M&M's. Accounts (like yours and mine) are either credited or debited money and shares after a transaction.

Lets say you sell 100 shares of AAPL and I am on the other side of that trade with a buy in for 100 shares of AAPL. The M&M that makes the trade sends an electronic debit ticket for 100 shares of AAPL to your broker and sends a credit ticket at the same time for the amount of the sale. The exact opposite is done on my account. No actual shares ever trade hands, only electronic duplicates which change accounts only, never going directly to the M&M. That trade takes 3-4 days to clear and only then is the sell deciphered as a sell or a short. The M&M does not know what type of sell it is. The broker must issue a code to the clearing company denoting the fact that they borrowed shares to sell into the open market. That number is then kept separate and issued every two weeks.

Wildcard

02/24/12 4:58 PM

Post #9,976

Re: #9,975: @livinginstyle - Nope. 0.001's on monday :)

lol well if news come its gonna fly

specutator

02/24/12 4:41 PM

Post #9,974

I feel good holding my shares over the wkend because I sure don't want to be chasing this Monday morning if news comes out before the open.

specutator

02/24/12 4:38 PM

Post #9,972

Re: #9,971: @livinginstyle - Huge short volume on this one:

Part of what you say is true, but it doesn't take three days to define whether it's a short or not.

Most short sales are cleared the same day when the MM receives the shares from the broker who passed him the sell trade order.

Otherwise the daily short position (not short volume) would be huge on most stocks.

livinginstyle

02/24/12 4:34 PM

Post #9,971

Re: #9,961: @StockPrez - Huge short volume on this one:

Huge short volume on this one:

Not necessarily true. Did you know that when you sell a stock, any stock, it is considered a short sale? This is because a short sale at the market maker level can not be distinguished differently than a normal sell. When you enter an order to either sell or short sell a stock, your broker sends the order to the M&M as a normal sell. At that moment, you and your broker are the only two that know whether or not that sell was a normal sell or a short. The broker reports the type of sale to the clearing house. It takes roughly three days for that sell to clear. It is at that point that the order is deciphered either a sell or a short.

The list you posted is a list of total sells for the day even though they are listed as short sales. To get an up-to-date list of shorts, you must either go to nasdaq site or shortsqueeze.com. The lists are updated every two weeks. Nasdaq.com says there is no short interest currently in this stock.

http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/hbrm/short-interest

StockGod

02/24/12 4:31 PM

Post #9,970

Re: #9,964: @MrK - MA turned up and 200 as support and holding

Can you break that down for the lay man? I'm a noob.

MrK

02/24/12 4:30 PM

Post #9,969

Re: #9,966: @StockGod - Elaborate?

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=72517415

PipBoy

02/24/12 4:30 PM

Post #9,968

Re: #9,954: @81bob - I've had similar experiences. This is going up

Nope. 0.001's on monday :)

grego68

02/24/12 4:30 PM

Post #9,967

Re: #9,821: @livinginstyle - Sorry but I find it to be quite

It's also quite comical when everyone wants the PPS to go up, but soon as it does people start crying about wanting it to go back down so they can get more shares...Everyone wants cheap shares but they want the value to increase at the same time

StockGod

02/24/12 4:28 PM

Post #9,966

Re: #9,963: @MrK - The stock is not going down long term

Elaborate?

MONEYCLIP84

02/24/12 4:21 PM

Post #9,965

Green close smile .....held over 135% gains this week....next week=more news and higher pps.....they can't seem to hold it down....lol....

MrK

02/24/12 4:20 PM

Post #9,964

Re: #9,963: @MrK - The stock is not going down long term

MA turned up and 200 as support and holding

MrK

02/24/12 4:17 PM

Post #9,963

Re: #9,962: @StockGod - So HBRM signed the letter. That sounds

The stock is not going down long term as you'll see smile

StockGod

02/24/12 4:10 PM

Post #9,962

Re: #9,892: @Stocktologist - Well, I am keeping about 50-100K shares for

So HBRM signed the letter. That sounds like the deal is done. Why is the stock going down?

StockPrez

02/24/12 4:03 PM

Post #9,961

Huge short volume on this one:

February 23, 2012 34748041 103546463
February 22, 2012 79018781 195891569
February 21, 2012 159891069 365057654

Wildcard

02/24/12 3:55 PM

Post #9,960

Re: #9,958: @MONEYCLIP84 - News Monday???....

would be dope!

MONEYCLIP84

02/24/12 3:54 PM

Post #9,958

News Monday???....

81bob

02/24/12 2:50 PM

Post #9,954

Re: #9,953: @alabama96 - I emailed the CEO yesterday and received a

I've had similar experiences. This is going up

alabama96

02/24/12 2:42 PM

Post #9,953

Re: #9,640: @Entangled Proton - When have you ever seen a penny stock

I emailed the CEO yesterday and received a response immediately . I asked her if I
should be concerned with the price drop and the A/S increase. She responded "not at all"

I have been in contact with her numerous times over the past few weeks. Everything I have asked her, she has responded truthfully. She has a good reputation and is a professor at Seton Hall, so I trust her word. I am not concerned about the PPS or any dilution and am convinced that the buyout price will be a good bit higher than today's PPS. I am thinking a minimum of .005 and probably max of .01. If you want to sell, go ahead. In the end the PPS today means nothing

Lethal

02/24/12 2:39 PM

Post #9,952

Re: #9,950: @firefox2 - Just needs solid news, will have to wait

In my opinion I think the news we got today is solid. Tuesday CHRI issued HBRM a LOI. Friday, which is today, HBRM signs that LOI. The stock is moving sideways and inexperienced traders get impatient and sell their shares. I love it when stocks trade sideways for a couple of days because I know it's gaining strength. Just look how fast we moved up at opening. There's no doubt in my mind that this stock will go. HBRM!!!!!