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Monica... When do you think we may see some $$$$ based on your research?
I always read your posts because they are so passionate and positive.
Thanks and best
Lodas I disagree and proved it last night at the bell.
You keep writing there’s no shares to buy?
I bought 33k at the buzzer and I can buy 50k to 100k any day and every day of the week if I wanted to...
Buyers dictate the share price of COOP right now - NOT sellers!!!! If there are buyers desperate to get into COOP they will drive the price up and they’ll always be someone willing to sell at the right price!!!
There’s no volume and no buyers because there’s nothing happening 2:25 and until something SIGNIFICANT is about to break then volume will continue to suck...
It’s BUY VOLUME VOLUME VOLUME.. x
Supply and Demand, simple economics even in the stock market...
Unless we see million plus shares trading regularly I guarantee 100% NOTHING of value to shareholders or escrows is about to happen!!!
Lodas you forget that even with your theory we have had many million dollar days, where do those magical
share s come from ????
Keep IT SIMPLE FOLKS
Keep your eyes on a run of a few consecutive days of million plus shares traded pushing the price between now and the 20’s...
That will mean insider buyers see value and a healthy future...
I put my ENTIRE retirement funds on one stock at the bell, I believe I bought it cheap and at the beginning of a drive to the $50’s
VOLUME VOLUME VOLUME
The insiders ALWAYS KNOW FIRST!!!
If anything significant is going to happen 2/25 then the volume will explode!!!
No ones going to miss out on a forward split, a new filing that’s going to produce shares that are way way more valuable than $14!!!!
If COOP is going into the $50’s, $100’s anytime soon due to some magical accounting or filing then the insiders will be buying everything they can at $14!!!
Ignore the theory or constant speculation!!! Buying volume is 100% your guide!!!
February 25th will come and go as another non event just like all the previous dates...
Do not get your hopes up for anything.....
The pattern here of pumping up dates that will prove to be of value to shareholders has historically proven to be false and misleading...
I said months ago.... Volume, volume, volume, just like location, location, location...
The insiders and market will show us significant changes are a foot with several days of volume over and above the million.
Remember us mere pathetic retailers are the last to know....
It doesn’t really matter what side of the fence you sit on now...
The BK is closed and if NOTHING of value returns to escrows, if nothing AZ has stated comes true by April then of course it will be 100% crystal clear to everyone that this is a bust!!!!
The arguments here daily are pretty futile at this stage of the game...
It will or will not happen in the next 8-10 weeks...
Come May 1st some people may be saying ‘told you so’ while others will regret never releasing their shares and missing out on $$$$$ for the rest of their lives...
Either way it won’t change my life one bit!!!
New theory....
What keeps people coming back to a online message board which relies on clicks and advertising??????
Theory after theory and continuous speculation for 11 years about possible wealth returning...
Now we have a new theory about triangles...
OMG
Of course such a complex triangular merger will take months if not years thus continuing the pattern of people coming back each day to the site...
Anyone heard of this triangle thingy years ago? Of course not...
That’s the truth of it!!!
11 years $0
11 years 352 debunked theories
But you didn’t answer the question based on your deep dive...
I’m sure your not anticipating a long wait now the BK is over so what’s your thoughts on seeing $$$$$
Are we talking this month?
Next?
Summer?
End of year?
So much confusion....
AZ can you help please...
In your opinion....
Do you anticipate a physical check for escrow holders and then some share exchange for COOP?
I’m beyond confused with all the new theories....
There’s lots to be hopeful for, it seems there’s things going on but we don’t know what..
Also AZ do you have a timescale as to when we may see some $$$$$$ in ur hands?
GLTA
Hotmeat...
For everyone here... Can you let us know what ALL THE REDACTED PARAGRAPHS say regarding the final agreement because if not your assertions that nothing returns are just as pointless as AZ’s that something will return..
Your 100% entitled to your opinion just as AZ is - but to say claims here are asinine falls on deaf ears for 99% of readers here because anyone with even a sliver of common sense knows YOU were not part of the drawing up of the final agreement, you DON’T KNOW what the redacted parts say and therefore your views are also asinine.
GLTA who released and are patiently waiting to see how this plays out and why so many hedge funds have invested billions into this...
AZ.... WHATS HAPPENING????
Are we getting paid this month?
We’ve been here a long time folks....
Still no money....
So what’s the timescale for facing reality that nothing’s returning to escrows and the naysayers were correct?
End of this month?
Next month?
After the tax deadline?
Since there’s no legal way for former and current shareholders to seek damages and fight for fair and reasonable and escrow payments, surely at some point reality sets in?
All these posts of money moving, posts of Emminent payment, all these ridiculous dates that passed without resolving anything have worn most of us down...
It looks like I’m going to have to stick with my mini instead of my dream corvette...
I’m so confused...
1. Are we getting paid this month?
2. How much?
If anyone can answer with FACTS and Full Details 1 and 2 please do - otherwise can we cease on the guesswork, dates that come and go etc etc...
GLTA
LG...
Does this give you any thoughts on how, when and how much common shareholders with escrows may fair if and when monies start to flow...
Do you feel they want all these loose ends wrapped up?
This can drag on further for months, even years....
Without a legal road map to end with a forced legal distribution of any remaining dollars, THE FACT is there’s no pressure, no time scale to have any monies released.
The same arguments to and fro could be going on next year, or in years to come...
WHERE’s the framework for release of funds...
Even AZ knows it could be another year or two....
Is there anyone on this board with ACTUAL LEGAL KNOWLEDGE
The BK had a long path however it was a legal mechanism that eventually led to the judge closing out the BK - we all now know it’s over..
There was no money ahead of the BK distributed, there was no 75/25 distributions so all those that made any predictions concerning that are obviously not qualified to answer the question...
The question is this....
What LEGAL mechanism FORCES the trustee or whoever to release these billions of $$$$$$ (if they exist) back to our escrow markers?
If there is no legal path with an end date then surely we could all be here for another decade or longer waiting for someone to decide on if and when monies are returned...
Arguing about if $$$$$ exist or not is pointless because unless there is and end date like the closing of the BK none of us will live long enough to find out...
AZ when do you anticipate we see some significant $$$$ coming to our escrows?
You’ve stared around $8 per share will that be this month?
TIA
How long do people intend to promote the idea that monies will return here?
2 weeks?
2 months?
2 years?
How many Guessperts here wrote that monies would return BEFORE the BK closed? WRONG!!!
If there’s NO REASON now then where’s the money?
If the BK is closed and AM has been working on tracking these billions why are they not releasing them?
Is it because they don’t exist?
This is truly working out to be the biggest bank theft in world history with NO fair and reasonable...
Isn’t it time to sue some folks here?
Don’t be fooled..
VOLUME - VOLUME - VOLUME
Yesterday was good, today not so good...
Around a million for a few days..
Then and only then will we know something is happening....
It’s ALWAYS about VOLUME...
Nice today - if we see continued around a million or more plus over the next few days you can virtually guarantee something is in the works...
Let’s see what happens?
RON...
So as someone who has posted some interesting information your down as the transfer of funds 1/1/20 or 1/2/20 and then let’s give it say 5-10 business days for the $$$$ to show up in our accounts...
Excellent so come end Jan when nothing appears will you at least admit you were incorrect and join me in urging the moderators to only allow COOP posts?
LG and so many others have lost complete credibility regarding ridiculous dates that change like the weather...
It’ll be BLOBvious now the judge has signed, the gavel is down BOB, there’s no more hiding from the facts....
AZ says nothing stopping payment, it’s ‘Eminent’ so come end Jan when we’re not showing an escrow nickel can you all just give it up and give it a rest???
Geeez even Lodas says the COOP pps is gonna trade around $12 in April, what a sucky sucky sucky situation we all landed in...
F&R???? What a lie!!!
Reiko what difference does anything AZ writes now? The BK is over, officially and legally it’s closed, it’s done, it’s complete... There comes a point when everyone on this board has to grow up.. At some point you realize the Easter Bunny and Santa was just wishful thinking..
By the end of next month, no matter what AZ writes, I think WE ALL will be shaken to our very core if nothing returns....
There is so many credible and reasonable explanations as to why we would see $ return - for it not to happen would be a bank heist the likes the world has never seen before...
Mr. Cooper Group Inc (NASDAQ:COOP) Receives Average Rating of “Hold” from Brokerages
COOP is the ‘tell’
OMG if hundreds of billions were eminent as AZ writes are u telling me these insiders would be recommending SELL or HOLDING?
Geeeeez it’s BOBvious we’ve been sold a crock of u know what all these years...
But don’t worry it’ll be SOON, likely 2025
https://trentdailytimes.com/2019/12/26/mr-cooper-group-inc-nasdaqcoop-receives-average-rating-of-hold-from-brokerages.html
If you put $1,000 in JPMC in 2008, according to CNBC calculations, your investment would be worth more than $2,600 Wednesday, or over two and a half times as much, including price appreciation and dividend gains reinvested.
WHERE ARE WE ALL THESE YEARS LATER???
ZERO!!!
Just millions of words written on a message board.
Soon, Emminent, next week, next month, next year MEANWHILE to all the guessperts are you better off than investing in JPMC?
No way, no how!!!
Now LG has the audacity even after being proven wrong 100% states before April 2020? No explanation but just throws out more undefined and unresearched dates...
When are you guys gonna give up your messages about $$$$ returning?
This week?
End of the year?
First quarter of next year?
Summer of 2020?
December 2020?
Exactly what date do you FINALLY admit there’s nothing returning?
What’s going to be obvious to ALL is by mid January if there’s no payment etc to escrows then clearly it’s a bust!!
As AZ has stated numerous times there’s NOTHING holding this up now, it’s ‘EMINENT’ the judge has signed, the 14 days will expire next week...
You just can’t keep PRETENDING that there’s anything there, otherwise you’ll just be torturing yourself this time next year...
Even the Alice loving BBOB can’t deny reality after 10-15 business days pass in 2020... It was he that has stated it’s over when the gavel comes down...
Well BBOB if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if the gavel has come down....
Where oh where is the payment? Oh it’s hiding in your friends coffee!!!
As January turns into February...
Wheres the KMart run?
WHERE’s the safety harbor assets?
WHERE’s the trust $$$$???
I’ve been watching my 6, 7, 8 and 9 but so far NOTHING!
LG posts to come...’Soon’, ‘it’ll be before 4-20’ or sometime after lol
Please - please - please let this be O V E R
Please - please remove and cancel our worthless markers
Please one Xmas wish... Let’s E N D this!!!!
1. Happy holidays, enjoy precious time with loved ones, there’s not a wealthy person in the cemetery who wouldn’t give away their wealth to spend more time with family or friends...
2. What’s the timeline for giving up ALL hope about fair and reasonable and $$$$ returning??
Are we going to be reading ‘soon’ this time next year???
AZ quick last question of 2019...
What’s imminent? Days? Weeks? Or months?
Orange Stamps
When I was just 8 years old my father was bequeathed around 23 sheets of unmarked stamps with motor vehicles dating back to the early 1900’s. He was convinced this was going to be financially life changing for his family.
We went to an area where numerous stamp shops were and started walking door to door showing the stamps.
I remember to this day, six decades later the pain, the distress, the upset, the realization that his dreams had been shattered as each philatelist told him they were completely worthless..
All these years later I am living (and so are you all) that same shattered dream with escrow markers and COOP...
COOP was promised on the 1-12 reverse to be trading at around $23, and with a stock market at historic highs, likely a rise that in our lifetimes will never be seen again, is pathetically at $12+
COOP is a complete sham and con job by their BOD...
Of course the gavel has come down (yes BBOB) the gavel has come down - and all those posting of the Feds having to be released, the pre court payments, the sheer inaccurate and misleading information posted here is mind boggling...
Now we have posters here who have just no shame and STILL have the audacity to post about $$$$ returning when clearly and irrefutably the case is over and there are no $$$$!!!
For over 11 years my wife and kids believed in my escrows and COOP investment only to find I held sheets of worthless orange stamps...
COOP will be gone from my portfolio come 1:1:20, my escrows will sit their until the broker gets the go ahead to remove them...
It’s been a tough lesson on the disintegration of a once great country but when powerful kingmakers can illegally steal a bank, receive billions, destroy thousands of lives, not receive any jail time, its obvious to everyone other than those with blinders on that the USA is dead!
You guys WILL NEVER STOP will you?
There’s NO MONEY - the BK is closed....
What you going to do every day for the rest of your lives - write here every day hoping that $$$ will come?
Hotmeat was 100% right...
COOP IS THS TELL...
Barclays Bank is buying COOP, my brother sent me the article..
Scroll down....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html
I’m a little confused wasn’t the theory for years that the FEDS had to be released before the BK was closed because that was the last step holding up the $$$$ returns?
What happened to that theory?
There’s been two schools of thought this past decade...
1. JPMC bought the whole kit and caboodle for under 2 billion and that’s it folks lights out after the BK closes this week - No soup for u!!!
2. JPMC owes a small fortune to complete the purchase and there’s also $$$$ hidden from very smart people st WAMU that saw this whole debacle approaching and placed $$$$ in safe harbor etc....
My question to AZ and ALL the others who are FIRMLY in the WE WILL GET PAID camp....
Is simple... WHEN?
WHEN do we admit that we got screwed and those in camp 1 were actually correct?
Is it when the BK ends?
End of December?
January?
February?
March?
Summer 2020?
For those in the camp of not if but WHEN? When is WHEN?
When do We In camp 2 realize we’ve been screwed!!!!!!
I’d love to hear especially from AZ on his timeline and Ron, LG, DM etc
I am 100% convinced that any and ALL possible returns will come back as 75/25%
IMHO That is EXACTLY the negotiation that took place behind closed doors that moved it from 70/30...AND moved it to POR 7
IMHO the deal was - you were caught - you did wrong - BUT we’ll let it slide on one occasion if you let retail and commons survive and participate ....
We shall see..
Days left....
AZ you’ve mentioned more than once an expected return of around $8/share for commons based on the PROOF you’ve uncovered. That’s around 40 billion $$$ coming to commons? Any reason your estimate is around 50% less than Dr A’s?
Also, are their other sources where my released common shares may see $$$
I’m just wondering if it’s going to be a Toyota for my birthday or Lincoln!!! LOL
TIA
GLTA
Next week Finally Finally it’s over!!!
I agree.... HOW does anyone here know if a return of 5, 10, 70, 300 billion is a correct figure?
Whose going to fight and hold account the thieves if zero returns?
There’s zero public knowledge or legal documentation that ANYONE here has seen to support $$$$
Even AZ can’t tell us how much and when $$$ may return and he is regarded here as one of the most educated on all of this...
Alice was basically told by the Federal Judge to go back to school and stick to coffee spill cases. In her own mind she thought she was as smart as these guys and girls but they brushed her aside like a fly...
The BK will 100% close on 12/19
THEN AND ONLY THEN will we ALL finally see if Sussman was a hero or zero
Did Nate influence the court
Was the judge on our side
Was Hotmeat right or AZ or LG or Ron etc etc
All these questions will be answered...
AZ now the tax refunds are signed by the judge, the BK’s are clearly destined to close as planned and on schedule - there’s zero doubt in my mind about that...
Any thoughts on when preferred or common released shareholders may see some $$$$$
What has your study told you about the expectation of timing for released assets?
Thanks
Personally if things are to happen I can easily see us receiving shares.
I mean it’s a quite way of paying us, doesn’t cause a stir NO HUGE CASH to explain to the media or anyone.
JPMC already have a HUGE share float so whose going to care or be watching?
A few million shares scattered to the peasants to make this all go away and be finalized, yes easy peasy....
If the posts today are a 100% genuine then perhaps things are wrapping up, however I’ve posted so much BS over the years and people have bought into it I don’t believe anyone here..
I am having a different feel about AZ because I’m beginning to think he maybe the real deal and is actually an honest broker which on a random message board would be insane to find a kind, genuine human being!!!
Time will tell but let’s see what happens....
Let me know when commons get paid please....
GLTA
Agreed... There’s thousands of low level ambulance chasers, trip and fall, burnt coffee lawyers out there, she’s just another low life like Rosen....
Let’s be honest what are attorneys good for?
Do they produce anything? Manufacturer anything?
There just as useless as your appendix and we can all live without our appendix!!!
Hopefully the courts will ignore her nonsense and the gavel comes down 12/21... Only Bob is in love with her, his heart must be broken to know everyone else sees her as a nothing burger!!!
The LEGAL process as AZ predicted is moving on....
Isn’t it NOW time for everyone to take a ‘wait and see’ approach without all the hype and back and forth?
I see that now it’s becoming clearer that many have backed off their 75-25 theory.
I STILL think the 75-25 distributions make sense however it’ll come from a different source...
The ONLY explanation many years ago for the POR 7 from 6 was that behind closed doors negotiations were struck to allow retail to survive SUBJECT to the 75/25 deal....
We CLEARLY have 2 sets of posters here..
1. Those that released and are HOPEFUL that their decision is rewarded FINALLY with some $$$$$
2. Those that didn’t release and even though no money has been distributed make no secret of the fact that they are extremely envious of those that did release because THEY are the ones that MAY see $$$$
I’m not AWARE of ANY company at ANYTIME that saw $$$$$ return or be distributed BEFORE their BK closed...
I don’t believe we’ll see anything until the gavel comes down...
If the kingmakers want their billions they better hurray because if the left gain power these guys are going to be taxed billions!!
Do me a favor!!!
She’s not doing ANYTHING for anyone but herself, how naive are people on this board?
So after 11 plus years she decided NOW to do all this???
Come on!!!
She is being used as a pawn by the kingmakers to delay, delay, delay
Give her $500k and watch her disappear POOF!!!
Follow the money, NEVER EVER FAILS!!!
AZ is there any doubt that equity has been fooled and we won’t see a dime?
There’s so many redactions in a whole host of documents who knows what they ACTUALLY really say?
Just watched the Irishman on Netflix do you think we need someone like Frank to keep equity safe? LOL
If you haven’t seen it it’s not a bad movie, not sure of the accuracy but those folks knew how to pile up the bodies of crooks that screwed them.
GLTA
Will the court allow this because I thought you wrote nothing was going to stop the closure and she is irrelevant to the closure of the BK and the subsequent distributions to follow...
If objections to closure are allowed we could all be here for years and years...
Someone tell us ALICE full of malice to go away please... She had 11 years to object!!!
The selfishness, disrespect and disregard for us all is disgraceful!!!
She is no better than the scum that stole the bank 11 years ago, horrible horrible women
I hope she rots in u know where!!!