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"I wonder how you managed to find seven like-minded souls to like the post without even bothering to check if it was true or not?"
Just SHOWS-TO-GO-YA..........how many on vplm msg board....find it so convenient.......to go "where the weather suits their clothes"....lolol!
(many of whom hold trophy's in bandwagon jumping on...) hahaha
Valid yet still worthless... What a revoltin development that is...
These so called settlements are Vplm taking a what are essentially bribes to dismiss, take some cash and use it to buy more half cent shares to sell later at double, triple, whatever, profits. The lord emu and emette go fund me page, is justa raking in the cash for their well known "self enrichments". It works smoothe as butter. As predicted, the trials don't happen cuz they don't want trials, they want moolah! Lol! Stay tuned for more mutually agreed upon dismissals. How many is that so far. Comedy-tragedy-comedy-tragedy-comedy...
Huawei........ There ya go kids, another sellout/cop out... Every day their pickin your pockets and giving more and more of the main deal away. Yipee! How quaint.. It instills record confidence, eh? Let's give em a round of applause... The mirage is fading...fadi.. fad....fa..
Can you possibly be that inept? Vplm is 27 yrs old, has been in the voip biz pretty much from the beginning FYI and yes, almost all of their promises and predictions have been a bust. Duh...
I kind of wondered about that claim myself but couldn't care less so didn't bother to fact check cuz it doesn't and won't mean anything anyway regardless of the numbers. It didn't sound right tho. They must be tiny compared to Samsung and Apple, no?
With a fan club.....so infatuated and preoccupied with me it's no wonder that vplm has so many shareholders who don't have a clue and are so far underwater. Vplm breeds them and has ever since the beginning of the lies they have told. Instead of focusing Vplm, they focus on my every word. A captive audience, lol. I'll keep posting about the company Vplm and they will keep posting about me... Too funny!
Vplm msg board is a reflection of the farce Vplm is. Vplm patents are worthless and their shares are almost as worthless at a little over a penny. Just like little kids believe in Santa Claus, so too are many of the subjects of cult leader lord emu of eGipped and his trusty share selling sidekicks. He could come right out an admit the fakery and they would still pay homage.
All the promises and predictions have been wrong for 27 yrs. I haven't been wrong about them yet but I wish I was. I hope my wish comes true but not holding my breath on that one. Meanwhile someone needs to sell the peanut gallery some new material.
Where's my 50 cents? No, I'm not going to lower it, even tho cost was far below that and then became 0 cost. Anyway, can't wait till July when the monkey wrenches will be flying like the Leonid meteor shower...
Maybe same reasons you do...
I don't claim to be a shareholder. I am a shareholder but it doesn't matter in the tiniest whether anyone believes it or not. Why would I care about that? The only reason I've stated it is some accuse me of not being one. Bottom line is it doesn't matter if someone here is a shareholdero or not when you come right down to it becsuse it's not a requirement to be here. So just for the s&g's, let's say I'm not a shareholder or any other poster isn't.. So what? What would that prove? I'll tell you what it proves... It proves that you mistakenly think that the veracity of a posters beliefs, ideas, opinions, conclusions, could only be valid if they were a shareholder but if they aren't, there's no possible reason for them to be here unless they are a paid trasher or a shorter or who knows what other fantasies brew in your mind? The FACT of the matter is wrong or right ideas are not predicated upon shares ownership, just like bought and paid for politicians quotes and deeds are worth only what and how much they were paid. I have supported everything I've said here with logic, facts, common sense, balance and fairness.
No one forces you to read......except you.
By the way, I almost forgot... Welcome to my fan club! You have 13 total posts and 10 of them are about me and the others about someone else. Zero about the company which is what this board is for. Would you like to buy some autographed 8x10s?
That's very INTELLIGENT of YOU to use this board to insult someone's intelligence. I guess it's the best you've got...
I think it was you or someone who recently said the same thing about my reason for being con on Vplm, by wrongly assigning YOURS, NOT MINE.....assumption that my opinions/conclusions are based on the idea that things are gonna happen cuz they haven't happened yet. I've never posited such a lazy, silly idea, to stand on its own. My conclusions are well documented to connect many different dots. If you read them, you wouldn't make such lazy and false accusations. That said, 27 yrs of nothing certainly does say something by itself......and it's been saying the same rhetorical propaganda for the entire time, ie, "IT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN".... "IT'S IMMINENT"......S&P 500 AND OTHERS ARE FALLING OVER THEMSELVES TO GET OR LICENSE OUR PATENTS!......"VPLM IS FOLDING THE TECHNOLOGY INTO ITS OWN VOIP SERVICE PROVIDER PLATFORM"....... "VPLM WILL IMMEDIATELY Begin COLLECTING UP TO $200 MILLION PER YEAR IN ROYALTIES!".........etc etc etc.
Maybe you didn't know these things said by Vplm? Or maybe you did know but you so easily forget, that they need to be repeated and repeated and repeated over and over. There's much more but you're already to overloaded with facts to remember. That's ok, you can just stick with "go Vplm".....that's pretty intelligent......oh shit, wait, someone else has that one. How bout "I think we can! I think we can! I think we can!
No, it's a simple matter of delegating.. The shares are currently (not for long) worth .017. The patents are worth nothing. No one will buy them ever since they were created (except of course digi-phony-ca and Vplm). Not even license.. That is the true and undeniable test of value, ie, whether or not a product on the market, in this case, for many years...can sell OR NOT. VPLM is a definite OR NOT! The fact o matter is Vplm sells shares not patents. They couldn't sell a patent to a shoe leather company... Vplm is in the shares business and always has been. The patents, incl 573 ipr wins are nothing more than a story, a front to bounce off. Do you want to buy any Vplm patents?? Shareholders own shares not patents.
The shares are worth what they buy and sell for but the patents themselves are worthless. They have proven that by never having made a dime since they were created. The only thing that's made money IS THE BULLSHIT STORY that you believe in.
Vplm creates shares out of thin air. It's called fiat shares. They are backed by zippo. Then they tell the shareholders and/or potential shareholders, big whopper stories to get them believing and buying. They also have taken many shares for themselves and sell them at great profits. That's known as the insider personal ATM.
The patents have no value whatsoever and that's why no one has ever bought them or licensed or settled in the near 20 yrs since they were allegedly created at a cost of 17 or 18 million dollars. The only entities who ever saw any value in them was digi-phony-ca and Vplm, who got rid of them as soon as they got them, realizing what a hot potato they were except Vplm hasn't been able to off them because that's not their true goal anyway. Their goal is to keep working the story and selling shares. They have done amazingly well at that.
It's both amazing and uncanny, how many if you lie, twist and mislead about what I've said. I've never said I used to be a shareholder, I've always said I am a shareholder. Obviously, you either don't comprehend too well or you don't even read and just rely on what others tell you.. Or, you simply choose to lie. I think you're guilty of all of them whenever your lips are moving, so to speak. I also never said I made huge profits. 1st I recouped my on paper losses, then made a good profit and I also used the money for things I can show for it, so I did good and had plenty left over. Your above statements are as bogus as Vplm is. Then, you go on to say that after I made my profits, I stuck around to troll others who want to do the same. Lololol.....omg, where is the logic in that? That's truly ludicrous thinking. You don't know how to think straight thus you come up with utterly ridiculous scenarios like that. What would I have to gain to turn my losses around and make good, which I most certainly did do....and then decide the thing to do next is to hang around for years and try to stop others from doing the same! Wow...! How backwards can thinking be? Apparently, you're expanding the envelope. I get alot of entertainment here. It's one of my reasons to be here, but that kind of thinking sounds like drain bamage... And then, as if that's not crazy enough, you top it off with the mommy recognition thing... Its a good thing that ppl like you step up and show the world what you're about. The dumbing down of America (as well as other places) is very very real.
And will you apologize for totally misquoting me and misleading others? Of course not cuz that's the kinda guy you are... But considering who the cult leader is, ie, lord emu of eGipped and the lies and misdirection he and other bod have promulagated, and how good he's been about it, it's not surprising the type of following he's garnered, so there's that.
VPLM IS A MIRAGE... THE CLOSER YOU GET, THE MORE IT WILL FADE AWAY...
VPLM PROVES THE FACT THAT NOTHING IS REALLY SOLID...SOLID IS JUST AN ILLUSION.
Right, all I'm saying is the trials are not about validation, they are solely about infringement. And strangely enough, I think it's possible to show infringement even if the patent is a dud and can't do what it claims. If it can be shown, regardless of that possibility, that the defendant is indeed using the patented technology, then he still could be found to be infringement. That's my opinion, my guess because it's logical. But I'm not a lawyer or judge. It's an interesting concept. The trials are to show infringement. So what if infringement can be shown and later, it can also be shown that the patent doesn't actually accomplish its stated abilities? Would that automatically invalidate the patent and reverse the infringement ruling? I doubt it. And what if an infringement ruling is made "with predudice"?? Whatever the case may be, it should be interesting. But hey, it looks more and more every day that ea case will have a settlement similar to the Amazon case, ie, another JOKE ON THE SHAREHOLDERS WHO WILL BE PISSED ON.
First, you saying "as you claim".... Implies you don't believe what I say, so no point in answering your questions, now is there? Duh.
2nd, "cutting nose off to spite face" is dumb assumption. Easy to show why.. I am a long shareholder and I'm far from stupid, so why would I share my sentiments. You figure it out. I already know why and like I said, no point in explaining anything to those who don't believe you. That would be dumb. I'll say this though... Anyone who believes that what peeps say, in general, on this msg board.....greatly affects the pps, well..... I think that's dumb....in general, unless the person who speaks his mind here has very good points and info that is factual and believable and important. In that case, then yes, there's gonna possibly be some effect. But by the same token, if it's pro sentiments posted and they are convincing enough, then same applies to pro or con posts. And......there are far more pro posts than my negative ones so the net effect would be to drive price up. BOOM! And you don't hear me whining daily about THEM, now do you? No, you don't. So that leaves you deep in the dust where you don't know why I post my sentiments AND I am not doing a thing to the price which is easy to see. That said, if I ever cause someone to not buy into this ripoff debacle, then I did good. But that has never been my purpose. That thought has never crossed my mind. I have no desire to cause anyone to buy or sell any stock, especially not this one. I've stated that numerous times. It's against my better judgment to give ANY buy/sell advice. Afaic, that's wholly the decision of the potential buyer/seller, period.
So as you can see (well, you can't see because you're blinded by your disbelief in what I say, so for the sake of truth in spite of you...), you're batting 1,000. Minus 1,000, that is. And don't look now but it does indeed make sense, just not to you. I can only wonder, if to you, it doesn't make sense, then you must have SOME kind of conclusion... Hmmm... what could it be? Must be that overused, worn out and lowbrow idea that I'm a paid shill or something along those lines. Sorry, not the case. But what if I was? So what? Would that change my right to be here and say what I will? Of course it wouldn't because this board is not your pollyanna playground. It's not expressly for cheerleaders. It's not even for shareholders only. It's for anyone who for any reason wants to come here and express themselves or share what they believe to be useful info or to be pro or con.......as long as IT'S ABOUT THE COMPANY. And I post about the company. You are posting about me. I have backed up everything I've had to say about Vplm with whatever proofs, beliefs, connected dots, opinions, that I have, rather than just throwing them out there. And I've also said many times that 8 could be wrong and hope I am WAY more than right, since I'm long. In fact I have zero hope that I'm right, I simply call it the way I see it. And I see very straight.
Lastly, I have previously on many occasions, posted ALL the reasons I here and post here. Not my fault if you don't believe. I'm not here to make anyone believe anything. I'm here merely to express my thoughts. Don't like it? Don't read it. Pretty simple.
Ta-tah
Reading your posts, it not surprising you are so confused, even though I have liberally explained everything many times. I would ask you why you feel it's your business to ask me why I spend any certain amount of time here (as though one needs to explain that in the 1st place). I'd add to that I find you to be wasting your time here. As for me, you might explain why I shouldn't be here. By the way, I'm glad that I manage what time I spend on this, that or the other? Maybe you, on the other hand, choose to have other ppl choose for you. Obviously I choose to spend my time because I want to. I'm also a shareholder. I would love to hear your honest explanation why you have a problem with me being here.
If you need to question whether or not I'm fully negative about the company, I'd say you're not paying much attention.
I don't think truly smart investors would ever get heavily invested in otc pennystocks, esp not one with this record.
I got involved with many pennystocks. The vast majority were losers. Vplm has been a 27 yr loser. The ceo has been a past loser on numerous counts. All past bod, who were not part of the shenanigans, most likely, all left, most without a reason or good reasons. The only one left was the biggest liar ever in vplm, ie Chang. The company has put out so many lies and half truths and misleading overall, the count is long lost. Their avg pps over the 15 to 20 yrs with price quotes online, is about 1 or 2 cents at best. They told the biggest lies imaginable starting with the beginning of the acquisition, in order to aquire many shareholders and sell them many shares to kick off the big farce of the past 12 or 13 yrs. They had nothing but trouble pre acquisition when they were allegedly a voip service provider and all their partners in that endeavor accused them of being a ripoff in one way or another. That can all be found here in the history. They've never made a dime selling product as far as I know, certainly not in the past 15 yrs or so. Above are all docuemented facts. There is miles more to the list... They have never been able to maintain any price jumps which are ALL ALWAYS followed by dropping back down. Does not sound like a winner. The market knows.
Patent validity is not in question. The patents are valid. They were valid when they became patents. There have been numerous challenges to that validity and all those challenges were lost, therefore the patents always have been and still are valid. Patent validity is not the issue. Patents can be legally valid, yet not have any value, nor be useful in the real world, nor be necessary to the operation of voip. Also, in the past, many valid patents have later found to be invalid by virtue of information not previously found or brought up.
Additionally, the cases are not about patent validity, they are about infringement. Whether or not the companies are using the same technology that the patents contain in their voip products. To your point, it's possible the patents may, at some point still be found to be invalid in some way, but I don't know if legally, that would automatically cause a loss of the case for Vplm because there still might be infringement happening. In other words, just because part of a patent is found to be invalid at some point, currently oes that mean it can't be infringed on regardless? I don't know. It's complex. My point is the patents are all currently valid but that does not give them any value nor does it mean any are being infringed upon. So if the alleged infringers know this and the market know it, then of course there's not a high pps. More importantly, if the alleged infringers knew the patents were not only valid but also were ALL THAT in terms of what vplm has claimed for them in terms of being foundational and necessary to the very operation of voip.......THEN........THERE IS NO WAY IN THIS WORLD THAT THEY WOULD RISK ALL THEY ARE RISKING BY NOT LICENSING, SETTLING OR BUYING THE PATENTS AND/OR WAITING AND WAITING, AS THE LONGER THEY WAIT, THE MORE THE DAMAGES WILL BE PLUS THEY WILL LOSE THEIR PRODUCT AND LOSE THEIR ABILITY TO COLLECT THEIR OWN DAMAGES. So it's actually more than merely risky, it's very close to an inevitable certainty that the above mentioned things will befall them. Therefore, it is my contention, via inference, that they must know that the patents are not ALL THAT and that they are not infringing. If that was the case, then ppl ask the valid question of the why do they delay and fight in court. I believe that's because when you're charged you must put up a defense so as not to be found guilty by default. Also because even tho they feel they are innocent, it's not unusual for judges or juries to find for or against litigants IN ERROR or another factor is concerns about appeals. So there do seem to me to be reasons to fight even if you know your innocent.
Another falsity spread by out fearless leader with a handful of cult followers is...... He managed to get ALL the online stock news sites to list him as the founder of Vplm......which of course he most certainly is not! I think he says it on Vplm site as well. Blatant lie but I know, I know, it's ok, no biggie, he's perfectly within his rights to lie like a rug........you know why?
Because you allow him to thus encourage him to and so he knows he has some wrapped around his finger and they will support him 100% no matter what he does or says........just like someone else you all know...
"Anything "material" should be made public."
Oh, like Amazon, right?
To be honest, SF, I'm not sure where you got the "billions and billions of ongoing infringements the emu has talked about"... I'm fully aware of the billions and billions of dollars in damages alone, that they have not only spoken of but they gave specific damages amounts in line with that twice now. I don't remember the year, but their 1st published damages was put out when they sued the 1st handful of company's. It was 4 or 5 companies I think and using that 1st metric/formula, I believe it came to approx $12 bil in damages sued for. Around that time, I think prior, they had named approx 60 companies as infringing. Quick basic math is easily many billions and billion, in the company's own words. Years later however, they decided to revamp the metrics used for figuring damages. That was around 2017 or 18. I recently posted those figures direct from Vplm published PRs. In that revision, again around 4 or 5 company's were used and this time it came to roughly $102 bil. Multiply that against the 60 or so companies and I know there exists more than 60 sizable voip service providers, of which Vplm stated that ALL voip service providers were automatically infringers......and you can see why some time ago I attributed the company's alleged value just in damages, to be upwards of a trillion bucks... It was very realistic using vplm's own published numbers and if you consider that those numbers were from 6 or 7 years ago, and consider all the inflation since, those numbers would be even higher. If you sliced it by 90%, it would still be billions and billions. The irony is Carl Sagan never said that, BUT VPLM DID!
Now, if you consider all the alleged infringers and the number of phones they sell with allegedly infringing abilities and crunch the numbers, not hard to see how that would add up to billions and billions of ongoing infringements, but I never heard Vplm put it in those terms. If they did, when, where? It goes without saying anyway, as shown above. It's all a bunch of silliness anyway. It's like how you could be dying of thirst and be drawn to a desert mirage showing a pool of water. It's all good til you get there...
As to your pharma analogy, it could very well be far more than just an analogy... Lord Emu of eGipped has stated many times that he founded or confounded a cancer research company in Germany years ago, still in operation according to him. He has given the name of the company which escapes me at the moment, but when he 1st noted it, I did a very extensive search for anything about this biomedical research company. I really searched hard, hi and lo for it, even specific Germany only searches. I could never find a single word naming or about this alleged company. What if someone had important info for them or wanted to make a donation. It does not appear to exist, then or now. In my research, I did find an American cancer research company of THE EXACT SAME NAME but they have no affiliation with the emu. I have asked for anyone who has any info regarding the mere existence of this company to let me know. Crickets... I just remembered the name.. It's Thorne biomedical. So happens that Thorne is a very famous name in American cancer research. So that's just one more thing to add to the list of emu failures, fantasies and schemes. The list is real, but some as yet unproven and significantly long.
The name should be changed to VPLMW aka voip pal monkey wrenches.
Are you lost? Need a compass or a map? You are trespassing on Vplm. Infringing. You hereby owe us $1 billion. Will that be visa or mastercard.? No...? How bout venmo....zelle? Ok, we'll take DWIS shares....
I truly wonder if you know how many times that, almost verbatim, has been said here in the last 13 yrs. I'm serious. I don't mean that rhetorically, I mean it as literally as can be. The answer, truthfully, is many many times and I'd be very surprised if anyone denied that. It doesn't necessarily mean or prove your wrong, it just illustrates a very human trait. We were told 12 or 13 yrs ago that a sale was imminent and that the company was immediately folding the tech into their own so called Voip services platform and that up to $200 million per year in royalties was about to come forth and so on and so forth, for yrs in the lying, unabashed PRs. That was 13 yrs ago and continued on to 1 degree or another until the present, incl your comment. It's sooo so meaningless... And soooooo worn out. Of course it's ok for the company or the super longs to keep berating it but so not ok for those of us who no longer subscribe to that belief. That is my definition of unfair and unbalanced. I am very fair and balanced. Nothing would be better than for me to be dead wrong, as I would once again make some big bank, for me. 27 yrs of a dud, in many ways, plus a past big time loser like lord emu, plus never any interest aside from digi-phony-ca, Vplm and the few on this board, for something that would literally turn the communications world upside out and inside down, and no sales, no licenses, no settlements, no partnerships and barely over a penny pps, IS ENOUGH FOR ANY REASONABLE PERSON TO POO POO THIS COMPANY AND THE PATENTS. So you see, my hard core determinations are derived indirectly by inference I guess you could say.............but so are atoms and atomic structure.
Putting down, vehemently and almost violently, those who see it same as I or similarly, is very ridiculous and waaay indicitive of the way society has devolved, at least in part.
How ironic that the patents are bogus and worthless. That will, in the end, be revealed. There is not a single case in human history where something valued by the seller at many billions of dollars (not just via conjecture or arbitrarily, but via a very coherent set of metrics which I recently posted and while out of date, should be much higher like everything else is with the various inflationary causes that we all know too well, but could actually, all things consideded beside the fact the patents are trash, might have dropped by 99%, lol) has sat in the middle of the road, untouched, unbought, unsettled, unlicensed, unknown to the rest of the world for............drumroll please........approx 13 years. That is common sense. That is critical thinking. That is so obvious that I know at least some of you know it... All the dots connect for the big, mean green, monster fiat share printing and selling machine/insiders personal ATM.
I DON'T LIKE IT EITHER BUT I BELIEVE IT. I already know I'll be using my unsold shares for wallpaper... I should have learned my lesson with TIV, a 50 year old fraud that all but a couple who knew better, refused to listen to. They were advised for years by a former insider and not just any insider, but one who knew intimately, exactly what was going on because he has been the chief of operations of an all important aspect of the company. And the ceo was beloved by many more, as I recall, than the emu worshippers here. Near 50 yrs company and on the market platform and on every msg board especially the classic 5 year long or longer raging bull board. That was the only board ever that could top the ihub Vplm board.
Anyways.....keep your helmets on.......more nasty monkey wrenches to be launched into vpreality
Lord Emu of eGipped tried TWICE to swindle $100 million from a famous and well respected screenwriter, Cameron. He was basically embarrassed out of court BOTH TIMES on the 1st day after publicly stating he would see the case thru to the end. Cameron had this to say about Malak:
"In court on Wednesday, lawyers for James Cameron and 20th Century Fox called Malak "deluded" and the suit, a "cash grab."
It was shortly after losing this $100 million cash grab that the emu began putting together the cash grab that has netted him, wifey, BOD, and rest of the cabal, many millions for the past 12 or 13 years, and it was JUST BEFORE the Cameron cash grab that he ran the Granville Hotel into the ground and BK. After those 2 major strikes, he was determined to not get strike 3 and has won.......unfortunately, at the expense of those that supported him in this.
This grand farce will never fly. I don't care if he gets 3000 ipr "wins". They are meaningless except to those who need their OWN personal validation... Vplm shareholder have been and will continue to get shafted while the inside will clean up. All the signs are there but the blinded will never see not even after it's over will they see. They will have every excuse imaginable in a fashion very similar to the way countless investigations and trials found ABSOLUTELY NO shenanigans in the 2020 election but THAT fact had/has zero effect on the believers. Their excuses are empty and void in both cases but they will never concede.
I truly WISH I was wrong. I've mentally written of all my remaining shares and 50 cents or more would be great but I've seen way too many signpost and connected way too many dots to believe I'll ever see that money. I already made out very good with the trading I did of Vplm shares after I got "deprogrammed" from the self styled elite super true longs about never letting go of your shares, which was major hypocrisy anyway since many of them also sold many of their shares. I'd rather use for wallpaper than sell my shares for less than 50 cents but I also know I'll never see it so no sweat whatsoever.
Come July, I wouldn't be surprised to see lots of more long faces and 1 or 2 more dumb dismissals with NOTHING for the pps or shareholders will be the last straw for many more shareholders who still hang on. I am not and will never be happy about all of this but I've got to hand it to the emu for setting up a scheme as good as Madoff... Genius! I believe he found out the truth about the patents from the results of the nodal testing, results never released to the public or shareholders. The shareholders swallowed it all. They were like Mikey "let get Mikey, he'll try anything"
Infringement?? Lol... There IS NO INFRINGEMENT!
......until a judge rules there is. No infringements exist.
Tell peeps the same bs over and over enough times then they believe.....
Toooooo phony........ I mean funny
Sounds like bend over time again...for retails... Tsk, tsk, tsk
It's like you're being robbed at gunpoint, smiling and saying thankyou... Lololol
Anyone seen my 50 cents?
Uh-oh......incoming monkey wrench.....here comes another awesome settle...er, I mean DISMISSAL! What a country...what a company!
And AS USUAL......after the pump and spike, it ALWAYS proceeds to come right back down..........WHERE IT BELONGS! It NEVER and I mean NEVER......stays up. That's the true nature of this stock. And as to all the recent posts that agree things are about to change very soon.......if they looked over the history, they would find that both the posters and the mouths of Vplm have in fact been saying EXACTLY THE SAME for every year going back about 13 yrs if you want to stick with the patent pageant. And not just every year but pretty much every day within those years. So sit back and watch as the trial dates turn into MORE MONKEY WRENCHES... No one except the retails want anything to change because the big, mean, green, fiat share printing and selling machine/insider ATM simply works too well and benefits enough of the inside and it's cabal like support. It's fun to listen to the blind faithers never quit slinging the story of how all the MASSIVE NON STOP INSIDER SELLING is ok, no biggie, a good thing, a natural thing, a necessary thing for paying bills, etc, a perfectly normal event, somehow for us in some convoluted way. It's really something to hear its everyday feeding to the shrooms...
Smart investors would wonder........damn, with all those IPRs and all those Alice 101s, and alleged looming trials, how in the world is it.......that not a single alleged infringers makes a move to avert the inevitable incoming ICBM missiles, with their names painted boldly on them, EVEN THO THEY ARE ALL VERY AWARE THAT THE DAMAGES AND/OR BUYOUT figures go up and up and up. And they show no sign of realizing it and their Fiduciary responsibilities and their obliteration coming at them. I know someone above in the last day or 2 attempts to explain that with the same old tired and worn out fallacious arguments (which I still have to get to) but those explanations are as full of holes as a country stop sign. No explanation can trump the indelible fact that IF INDEED THEY ARE AN INFRINGER, THEY OF COURSE KNOW IT AND CANNOT ESCAPE THAT IN TRIAL THEY WILL BE FOUND LIABLE AND GET HIT WITH TRIPLE DAMAGES.......OR, IF CHOOSING TO SETTLE, THE LONGER THEY WEIGHT THE HIGHER THE AMOUNT. Inescapable facts. And that doesn't even count in the fact that they would lose the income from the infringing products AND lose any competitive edge they have over their fellow service providers. Annnnnnd.......they lose the untold huge fortune they would inherit if they bought and owned the patents. I mean it's just soooooo bad no matter how you look at it, it's truly unbelievable and totally against human nature that they would just leave the mountain of gold sitting in plain sight for the taking nor protect themselves from the incoming bombs.
So keep on BELIEBING... Pay no mind... They simply all think and act exactly alike.... They are borg!
Well said but......... in my opinion, loaded with many holes in the logic. I may not have enough putty to fill them all in. I'll go get an extra 5 gal can and be back. Some things just don't add up but are old, tired, worn out illogic.
Yeah, that's the ticket! You figured that all out by yourself? Brilliant... Genius...
Voip-Pal.Com Announces Plans to Increase Damage Demands in
Lawsuits vs Apple, Verizon and AT&T
Company preparing responses to new petitions for Inter Partes Review
May 15, 2017 -- Voip-Pal.com, Inc. (“Voip-Pal,” the “Company”) (OTCQB:VPLM) announced their intent to increase the damage
claims in its lawsuits against Apple, Verizon and AT&T. Over the past few months, the Company has been reevaluating the initial
damage calculation claims made in its February 2016, lawsuits against Apple, Inc, in the United States District Court, District of
Nevada case number 2:16-CV-00260, Cellco Partnership d/b/a Verizon Wireless and AT&T Corp. in the United States District Court,
District of Nevada, case number 2:16-cv-00271. Voip-Pal has determined its initial claim for damages was calculated using a
significantly lower royalty monetization model than has been used in actual court awards of recent patent infringement cases.
Voip-Pal remains cautiously conservative with its newly revised calculations, using an amount 25% below actual recent court
awards for damages. Upon the lifting of the current stay pending the completion of the instituted Inter Partes Reviews expected later
this year, the Company may file an amended pleading to reflect the more accurate damage calculation model.
Utilizing the updated damages award calculation methods, the revised total damages sought by Voip-Pal from Apple would rise from
more than two billion dollars ($2,836,710,031) , to more than twenty-five billion dollars ($25,642,557,840) .
An award in Voip-Pal’s favor may also include additional punitive damages awarded by the court, up to triple damages increasing
the newly revised potential maximum total award to Voip-Pal to over one hundred two billion dollars ($102,570,231,360) .
Applying the updated damage award calculation method to Verizon and AT&T, the current damages sought from Verizon of more
than two billion dollars ($2,382,872,100) would increase to over seventeen billion dollars ($17,262,042,011) .
The current damages sought from AT&T would increase from more than one billion dollars ($1,804,795,745) to over thirteen billion
dollars ($13,540,863,431) .
Applying the maximum potential punitive damages, increases the maximum potential award from Verizon to more than sixty-nine
billion dollars ($69 billion) .
Applying the maximum potential punitive damages, increases the maximum potential award from AT&T to more than fifty-four billion
dollars ($54 billion) .
The complete monetization analyses and damage calculation methodologies are linked below.
The Company also reports the filing of five more petitions for Inter Partes Review (IPR) from AT&T and Apple. The deadline for filing
an IPR petition by Apple, Verizon and AT&T was May 9, 2017, one year from the date of the completion of service of process to the
defendants.
On May 8, 2017, AT&T filed the following three petitions for Inter Partes Review: IPR2017-01382, against Voip-Pal’s Patent No.
8,542,815, IPR2017-01383, against Voip-Pal’s Patent No. 9,179,005, and IPR2017-01384, against Voip-Pal’s Patent No. 9,179,005.
On May 9, 2017, Apple filed the following two petitions for Inter Partes Review: IPR2017-01399, against Voip-Pal’s Patent No.
8,542,815, and IPR2017-01398 against Voip-Pal’s Patent No. 9,179,005.
Voip-Pal CEO Emil Malak stated, “We will continue to vigorously defend these challenges to our technology and protect the interests
of our shareholders. Once the stay is lifted we will make a final determination on amending the asserted damages of our lawsuits
with Apple, Verizon and AT&T.”
“We are now faced with defending five new IPR’s, three filed by ATT and two filed by Apple, all on the same two patents we have
been defending for the past year. We are confident we will prevail based on the merits. We appreciate the patience of our
shareholders and we assure them we will persevere to a successful end.”
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I don't consider that a monetization analysis. It's only a royalty analysis. I think a monetization analysis ought to include damages analysis with or without the triple damages applied. The royalty analysis is but a tiny fraction of what is allegedly sought. In fact, the royalty analysis you presented total roughly 1.9 billion. That is approx 2% of the revised damages analysis for only 5 companies or less (I forget if it's 5, I'll check) which was approx 102 billion a few years back. I believe 2018. And this is a great place and time for me to reiterate that we were promised by Chang long ago, to immediately begin recieving up to100 million dollars per year in royalties, which would have really added up by now.
All above is useless info other than demonstrating that it's all so much contrived BS. It was only one of many lies we were told re: what we would be recieving forthwith.
Correction: 12 years ago chang said ""A conservative estimate shows that potential royalty income alone
from the Digifonica Gibraltar patents may exceed $200 million per year for Voip-
Pal.
So only on its own merits, why is the pps only slightly over a penny after all these years for a stock/patents supposed to be so amazingly powerful and valuable? Simply answer that if you would.
Oh, so the self proclaimed know it all that jumped in there yest or the day before, stating there was no insider selling happening currently, was simply keeping par with his usual lying/ignorance. Actually I think I saw at least a couple saying that over the past few days. I remember thinking to myself, well that won't last too long (not selling). It was just more dished bs. I think they're all selling as much as they can sell as fast as they can sell it and I can't fathom how that could possibly bode well for the retail shareholders.
If you were one of the alleged infringers, esp one of the bigger ones and you of course knew you were guilty, would you sit around for years, watching as trials and damages and triple damages got closer and closer and the damages grew larger and larger and you could see that vplm had no problem coming up with the cash to maintain the fight..................................................................................OR WOULD YOU BUY OR PURCHASE A LICENSE OR SETTLE FIRST? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahalolololololol
I know... I know.... Its a dumb question, eh?
Computer: "how many nothing burgers does it take to equal billions and billions in vplm infringement damages?"
Whrrrrrrrrrrrr....."does not compute...does not compute...does not compute"
It's questionable that vplm would ever again reach the lofty height of 2 cent. I'm thinking a penny and a half is it's legacy.
I'm just kidding......obviously it's going to "BILLIONS & BILLIONS".....
......and REAL SOON from the scuttlebutt. Everyone knows that, c'mon
Goin up......hahaha.......lolol......
Too funny
Has anyone seen my 50 cents?
Funny thing..... Still not a single person has offered a single example of a law or a judges legal opinion, that shows there is some material benefit of positive IPR trial outcomes, to a patent owner suing for infringement. Strangely enough, but totally in keeping with the plethora of false ideas, opinions and narratives commonly found on the Vplm msg board, so far THAT is the ONLY place where such opinion can be found. And not just found, but actually shown there to be THE PREMIER number one reason, given by the highest number of ppl, quite often and more widely accepted as gospel than anything else. I suspect than anything else because there simply IS nothing else found here or anywhere else that shows, proves or validates that the patents actually live up to the hype assigned to them by Vplm, in terms of their baseline, necessary, foundational attributes, which includes the claim that voip services cannot be provided without the use of these patents.
I've noted it many times but due to the, in my opinion, fallacious beliefs as to the attributes and actual abilities, I have to keep noting that when the ptab trials result in a positive result for the plaintiff, THAT is no more of a validation than the original act of issuing the application patenthood. The law states that a patent is (of course) assumed to be valid from birth and including all the specific challenges that an IPR challenge might question. And that is because of the exhaustive work the USPTO examiners do as part of thetir procecution of the patent. That why it tabkes so long to get a patent. Of course, the examiner, being human, could have missed something or made a mistake. That's normally not the true reason the challengers start an ipr as they are more of an "throw stuff against the wall and hope something sticks". and unfortunately, often times, something does stick. I have little doubt that would've been the case for Vplm as well, but it's no secret that vplm's 100% record with the ptab, which was and is, as far as I know, up til then and since, totally UNPRECEDENTED, is the result of the also unprecedented and very powerful series of around 5 letters written by the esteemed former ceo Tom Sawyer, with his threat of federal Rico charges against the well known corrupt leader and panel judges. THAT is the reason for the so called "wins".
Thus I find it largely disingenuous or biased or agendized, that so many pro vplm voices keep bringing up their CLEARLY NUMBER 1 reason given for their belief in how and why Vplm will eventually come out a winner in court or by virtue of settlements.
IT IS A FALSE REASON! and will in my opinion, in the end, prove itself to be the very downfall of this play. .
Where are the judicially derived indicators that IPR wins are a big benefit?
Where are the results of the alleged core patents worldwide nodal testing?
Where is any proof that is equal to the alleged 25 or so voip engineers at a cost of some $17 million to create them? Where is anyone with that level of knowledge who can and will step up to validate they are "ALL THAT"??
Why is it that some here insist that some other company's alleged expert, in court, who testified about their use of relays, is believed to be some big deal when relays, which are not part of Vplm patents, are as common as doorknobs. Relays are simply common electromagnetic switches and are used in a huge portion of electronics simply for switching purposes. I can see no way the use of relays would be pivotal. And relays are hardware components. The patents are software.
And last but by no means least,