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I think the rest of the Bears will run on Monday, and then the stock will steady itself as the Bulls hold long term
I think by Monday, we shake all of the farts out of the blanket- all of the scared money will sell, and by Tuesday HCMC is left with Bulls and the stock finally stays level
Missed the 17's today got in for 200,000 more at 18s
Only 2 scenarios hurt HCMC
1-The lawsuit is dismissed (we hopefully will know that very soon, maybe tomorrow)
2- PM actually goes to court and wins outright against HCMC.
EVERY OTHER SCNARIO IS A WIN FOR HCMC
My attorney friend just replied to your question, and she does not think a request to dismiss would be filed simply because a settlement is reached(but I hope a settlement is reached)
Motion to Dismiss DENIED
Just talked to an Attorney I work with and she told me that a judge will NOT dismiss a lawsuit unless there is absolutely ZERO CASE, NOTHING TO IT.
I think we can safely say that this is not the case with HCMC.
Hang in their Bulls, hold strong, hold your shares
Well for one, I am sure they have a team of attorneys that will be paid handsomely and will want to keep on against PM until the big payday. In the meantime, HCMC can stay sub penny who cares. They have been around since 1985. I think they will figure a way out to hang around for another 6 months or whatever to get a big payday from PM
Sure, the worst the judge can do is say nope, this is not getting dismissed but it's worth trying. Then when they know they are going to court maybe that's when they will start considering implications of court & jury and settlement might look more enticing
Who thinks that??? Not me. I think that PM will do anything it can to stall and pay out less. But I think they will also do all to avoid a jury
Yep they pay out millions at a time frequently, juries HATE Big Tobacco.
The ONLY thing I am 100% confident of is
that PM wants NO PART of having a jury decide its fate. Before they ever get to that point, they will settle, or enter some agreement with HCMC, or simply buy them out. Why would they ever run the risk of being found guilty and having a jury make an example out of them, since juries hate big tobacco
Of course they release it right when the market closed.....HMMMM
You don't believe me?
just re-loaded more at .0024
The only thing I know for sure with HCMC is that NOBODY here knows what's going to happen with the stock.
Based on that I am happy & willing to gamble on potential. It beats sticking money in a slot machine. If people want to gamble, let them.
For me personally, if there is not some kind of good news or update tomorrow, I won't be buying anymore until there is. But i am letting th $ i got in there ride for the potential pay day. That's gambling
So you are wasting your time enlightening the masses?
Shouldn't you be out buying some 'good stocks' instead of wasting your time in here with us?
When I think a stock is a waste of time, the last thing I am going to do is waste time debating it on a forum. Yet, people here who claim this stock is worthless and dead weight, etc, are willing to waste their valuable time on here trying to sell people on why it's worthless. LMAO, don't you trolls have lives?
I am holding this for the long haul. If I don't get the news I like by tomorrow, I'll maybe put the brakes on buying more, but I won't be selling what I have. Boom or BUST with this long term
It was at 0.0028 and then 0.0027 that's called a dip
She is climbing steady
The dips keep getting bought instantly 2 Billion almost for volume
1.7 Billion already, WOW and up to .0029 Nice steady climb come on
Bought another load of this at the quick dip and then it rebounded YES!
I posted several links here yesterday to lawsuits PM lost and was ordered by juries to pay out Billions of dollars to various parties.
Trust me, PM does not want a jury deciding their fate, I suspect that they are going to settle, enter an agreement with HCMC, or buy them out altogether. Juries do not like Tobacco companies
Dude, you are seriously hating bad LMAO
I would have to ask, why is PM counter suing RJR but not HCMC?
Why are the attorneys that PM just brought in ones that specialize in Merger and acquisitions? That could indicate a buyout of HCMC.
I am not an attorney, but I personally doubt that PM, the big, rich Tobacco company responsible for who knows how many deaths, wants to sit in front of a jury face to face with little HCMC who specializes in finding healthy alternatives. To me, the OPTICS do not favor PM, and they may want to avoid that. A settlement or buyout makes sense to me to avoid that.
But hey, I am not an attorney. I know that PM has a crap ton of $$ and can try and delay and drag things out. It would not surprise me Friday if there is no real news, but I at least hope to see a response, so we get a game plan and know what to expect. A settlement would of course be great.
Here's a bunch of times that PM decided to let juries decide their fates, and they did NOT fare too well:
https://blog.cvn.com/jury-hands-down-42.5m-total-verdict-against-philip-morris-and-rjr-in-retrial-over-smokers-cancer-death#:~:text=Smoker's%20Cancer%20Death-,Jury%20Hands%20Down%20%2442.5M%20Total%20Verdict%20Against%20Philip%20Morris,Retrial%20Over%20Smoker's%20Cancer%20Death&text=Reynolds%20and%20Philip%20Morris%20were,R.J.
https://legal.thomsonreuters.com/blog/2002-phillip-morris/
https://blog.cvn.com/breaking-0-punitive-award-follows-2.5m-verdict-against-philip-morris-at-trial-over-smokers-fatal-lung-cancer
https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/washington/scotuscases_PUNITIVEDAMAGES.html?scp=2&sq=v&st=cse
https://lrus.wolterskluwer.com/news/products-liability-law-daily/punitive-damages-award-in-excess-of-20m-against-philip-morris-survives-constitutional-challenge/130829/
A few scenarios(most are good)
1- The lawsuit is thrown out, or HCMC loses lawsuit and carries on somehow.
2- The lawsuit goes South and HCMC goes under
3-HCMS wins lawsuit and PM is ordered to pay big $$ to HCMC which propels stock
4- PM has to pay royalties and use rights to HCMC which propels HCMC stock
5-PM settles with HCMC and pays them $$ which propels HCMC stock
6-PM Simply buys out HCMC and their technologies etc, which also propels $$ for HCMC stock holders.
MOST of the above scenarios are good for HCMC stock holders.
If this thing even hits 10 cents, that nets someone $100k if they own a million shares, of it hits .25 cents, onward, it's life changing. Thats why this is a relatively low risk stock investment(as long as you only put in what you are prepared to lose) If you got in for a million shares at 0.0005 that's only $500 invested for a chance to hit big. Hell, that $500 investment pays $10,000 if the stock hits a penny. I think we have all seen worse stocks top a penny
I just wanna say, never mind the nay-sayers. They don't have anymore info than the rest of us, and half are simply upset they didn't buy in early. We all know that this, like every other penny stock is a gamble, and hopefully you played the stocks with $ you were not afraid to lose. This is a long term boom or bust play, short and simple. Good luck to anyone that's taking a gamble
I love how everyone with no inside access knows exactly what is going to happen here in advance
hell yeah, that's better than any CD rate
just because it makes it to court, doesn't mean there will not be a settlement. Maybe PM is trying to intimidate HCMC by the amount of attorneys it has to get them to settle for less $. If they are fighting it, why are high ups in PM unloading their stock and why are high ups in HCMC taking their stock?
Guess we will find out
At least until this Friday. I am hoping news of a settlement comes. I am not being greedy I think this stock has a realistic range of 0.25 in the near future. WIll it ever hit $6 like Yahoo predicts? It would be far fetched but great if it did. Part of it depends on the lawsuit outcome.
I am buying and buying this at every drop
I am loading up on HCMC while it is down....BOOM OR BUST ON THIS ONE!
Hope this is a catalyst to get this thing flowing Green again, it's been bleeding me
SANP #Catalyst
In the meantime, I will keep on taking the 100% profits as much as I can
I bought this weeks ago, 20,000 shares would have been a lot more but had to pay a vig of $50 thru Fidelity to buy this. Watched it bounce mostly down, a few up days. Average volume is 3.6 million a day, today it is flying at 220 million
I bought a bunch of this a week or two ago, I am up 500% it's up 70% today and the volume is about to break through and eclipse the 90 day average