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I have a Share Certificate that was Registered by Transfer Online on January 6, 2010 in the sum of 1,629,500 shares.
If Markray Corp is legitimate, I should be able to send this certificate to their transfer agent and receive in return a Markray Share Certificate.
Instead, they requested that I send $0.0003/share (about $500) to their account of Bontori Limited, Bank: Liechtensteinische Landesbank AG, 9490 Vaduz, Liechtenstein SWIFT.................
They want me to send them $500 and trust them to send me a certificate that probably will not be accepted by my brokerage.
It cost me about $100 for the original Share Certificate including fees for Transfer Online and my brokerage. Inflation can be a bytch!
Well, they can't have my official document, the one that reminds me of....... things not to do with my money. lol
Guess what? All they want is more money and my address!
When Aurus was going belly-up, I requested a share certificate from Transfer Online and they sent it to me. Needed something on the wall to remind me of ways to lose money.
So, every once in awhile I come back to this board for a good laugh. Yesterday, I read where some of you were getting emails from Ruper. He must have missed me. lol
I sent him info about my share certificates and the following is his reply (the large Xs are mine):
"From Ruper Hauer? ?
To griz
You have to make the following:
1 . To send your post address;
2 . To make a transfer for technical procedures (ussie of your certificate) $ XXX.XX(X,XXX,XXX x $ 0.0003) into the account of Bontori Limited, Bank: Liechtensteinische Landesbank AG, 9490 Vaduz, Liechtenstein SWIFT: LILALI2X; current account (USD): LI3208800539964992001;
The transfer copy we'll send to this mail.
After that we will bring you in the Markray Corp. shareholders report also we will send the certificate on your post address. Then you will be able to place shares with your broker."
What a round-a-bout way to buy shares of Markray Corp.
Just send money to their bank account and wait for them to send me another share certificate that I can take to my broker.
What a hoooot !!!!!!
Aurus was more legitimate than Bitcoin
It was the scam artists and bashers on this side of the world who manipulated the share price into oblivion.
Me too!
A Merry Christmas to you and yours.
The only crimes prosecuted in the 'free' world are committed by poor and/or mentally unstable people. This includes everyday crimes where people are using force to obtain the basic necessities of life.
Financial crimes committed by the wealthy and/or greedy do not qualify.
IMO Helmer was spoon-fed information by an Aurus insider, or previous insider.
Was it factual? Most likely parts of it.
But before Helmer, partysasquatch gave us some revealing information in post# 82328.
The documents presented on this board were not the original Russian documents. Few on this board could read the originals. So the original (authentic) documents were translated to English and Aurus tried to make them look like the originals by adding photocopies of the seals and signatures. This was obviously a faux pas, because it was turned against them. Many people on this board repeatedly attacked Aurus and accused them of deceit, just because the documents were not original or “authentic.”
Authenticity of the translated documents is not the issue. The real issue is whether the original Russian documents have any validity. Every attempt to verify the original documents created a barrage of attacks against the translated documents. The attacks became “all consuming” and continue to this day.
Will the truth ever be known?
Many people can’t handle the truth, I guess that’s why they keep on fighting.
Correction: Parkin knows what he did was illegitimate. That is why he suggested to Aurus that they use the German exchange. It is the same MO he has used in the past for other companies. There is no indication that Aurus has followed his suggestions.
He is no longer representing Aurus.
Granted, he created a negative stigma for the company, but the Russian owners of the resources are now developing legitimate methods of presenting their company. The recent news about another company taking part in the tailings pile near Moscow, has nothing to do with their primary resources in the Magadan region. Aurus has long claimed the tailings pile is too massive for them to develop alone.
This action by the SEC could open the door to finding the real perpetrator. Was it the Canuck crew (Parkin, etc.) or the previous moderator on this board, or the Ruskies? Maybe a combination of them? If the Ruskies go on to create or use another shell, will that prove they are part of the conspiracy, or just trying to become legit? The past due taxes and filing costs could be so great that keeping the golfing company shell alive would be too costly.
My investigation of that part of Miami Beach is somewhat revealing. It's a seedy, somewhat rundown part, a few blocks from the beach. Looks more like a P.O.Box drop. A place that forwards your mail to you, giving the impression that you live in Miami Beach. I know a person who had a checking account at a Beverly Hills bank, just for appearances, but he never lived there.
Having a P.O.Box in Miami is not a crime. I know some honest people who go to extremes to put on a false facade. Some people on this board come to mind. We all have our reasons for having our hair cut in a certain way and wearing certain clothing, just for appearances.
Are these things presented by Kelly, really facts showing criminal intent, or just an innocent facade put on by Slava, trying to boost his image so he remains employed? Maybe something else? People believe what they want to believe, no matter the facts.
Aurus is caught between a rock and a hard place.
BTW this has nothing to do with history, golf clubs, pumping, or bashing.
How can we expect them to post anything? They have yet to procure the 100,000,000+ shares for their employees!
If they do anything to disclose their existence, the stock price will go up, costing them more $. Besides, the timing is wrong. Most miners are way down, along with other stocks, making it a bad time to get any attention.
So, the only thing we can do is put more of our shares up for sale. They urgently need sellers at this price.
Come on "long and strongers" cut loose with those shares so we can carry on with the entertainment.
With OTCBB and Pink Sheet stocks, shorts and/or Market Makers are the only winners as the speculators are forced to sell at a loss, or wait and lose all. That is, in the absense of additional speculation. When Aurus management does nothing to prove the existence of assets, there is no incentive for investors and speculators. During the past several years, every attempt by management to show anything positive about Aurus, has been ripped apart with a well organized, negative effort. Is this because of their communications shortcomings and inability to express believeable facts in English, or is it something else?
Aurus doesn't seem capable of providing any proof. Therefore, it is assumed they have none. Meanwhile, the longs do nothing but sit idle and hope the gold extraction exists, and will some day provide enough profit for management to hire an effective marketing team to communicate their claims. Is this a "pie in the sky" dream perpetrated by greedy people? I remain neutral, perceiving no positive or negative proof. On this board, I have read only idle claims and biased opinions.
Post was not directed toward you Eik. You just happened to step into the line of fire after I read the other posts today and I hit the reply on the last post, which was yours.
I appreciate your posts. You stick to the facts and are very consistent with telling us the difference between your opinions and the facts. However, IMO that some of the information told to you is not fact, but we all tend to believe what we want to believe. We all have our own biases.
Interesting find, Lost. Correct me if I am wrong, but they state a minimum 0.5% "fails." A "fail" is a short term for "failure to deliver" which is essentially a "naked short." So, we have a minimum of 2,500,000 naked shorts, officially.
I'm wondering about the actual number. Maybe somewhere between 2.5M and the 225M (or so) that was brought to our attention by DOS? Or is this separate from the "air shares" created by the Canuck management several years ago?
Nobody knows what's happening here. It's getting to the point where the bashers have nothing to bash. The shareholders have nothing of value. Management isn't talking. Aurus has made a less than feeble attempt to purchase the 100M+ shares. The entertainment value has fallen below that of a hollywood class C horror movie. We can't make fun of syntax errors and gross interpretation snafus. What good is this board? It represents nothing!
Your assertions are nonsensical, considering the fact that it was a different Transfer Agent who gave us the 10% share dividend. That, was a true dividend. You, and your partners cannot hide the facts.
How do you come up with this crazy "footnote 32 shell" being associated with Aurus?
That person who was supposed to send out dividends, ran away with my happy meal.
Most pinks and many of the S&P stocks fall into the same category as Aurus. They have no proof from a higher authority (which has not been defined) that they are anything other than "make believe appointments." You have basically lost touch with reality to believe the present officers of Aurus are not "officially connected."
The Aurus management team is working to develop their mineral resources and is not inclined to respond to negative attacks.
I don't know the answer to your question, but my perspective on this situation seems to be similar to that of DOS. I cannot understand any other motive for a person or group to constantly bash a stock and degrade the management so thoroughly, for such a long period of time (years). Especially if they truly believe it is a scam. Most of the OTCBB stocks out there will turn out to be scams.
Why spend so much time trying to destroy a group of Russians who are recovering from being manipulated by a group of Canadians and Americans?
Why do these people exert so much negative energy toward a stock they believe to be an empty shell?
Silly, am I?
Take the info I gave you and give me a visit.
Make my day punk!
Simply amazing HAK41. You are an excellent communicator.
You also have common sense, something alien to many minds around here.
I agree with your assessment of Aurus.
http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictT.html#troy
ounce (oz, oz t, toz, or oz ap) [2]
a second traditional unit of mass or weight. The troy ounce, traditionally used in pharmacy and jewelry, is 1/12 troy pound, 480 grains, or about 31.1035 grams. Thus the troy ounce equals 192/175 = 1.09714 avoirdupois ounces. This unit is the traditional measure for gold and other precious metals; in particular, the prices of gold and silver quoted in financial markets are the prices per troy ounce. The troy ounce is divided into 20 pennyweight or into 8 troy drams [2]. See troy weights for additional information. The troy ounce is sometimes abbreviated oz t or toz to distinguish it from the more common avoirdupois ounce; in traditional pharmacy it was abbreviated oz ap.
1 metric tonne = 1,000,000 grams (1M grams)
1M/ 31.1035 = 32,150.72
Therefore:
1 t = 32,150 oz.
1 kg = 32.15 oz.
Welcome back DOS. Your explanation sounds plausable.
I'm not sure how to go about getting my broker to recognize there is a dividend due. If Aurus would have gone through the TA, there would be documentation available to all brokers. That is not the case. This leads me to believe that many of us could have the "Parkin-air-shares."
I had my largest account transferred to a shares certificate, but the certificate is dated 6 Jan 2010. So, the transfer did me no good for this dividend. Therefore, my broker has no control over them.
What a mess!
I sent the requested information on Friday, August 27.
Nothing yet.
I don't care what your motives are, but I am getting tired of the untruths on this board.
The following is from the FINRA website:
"To determine whether you are entitled to most dividends, you need to know two important dates—the record date and the ex-dividend date. The company declaring the dividend sets the record date. This is the date when you must be on the company's books as a shareholder to receive the dividend."
http://finra.atgnow.com/finra/resultDisplay.do?gotoLink=193&docType=1006&contextId=782%3A193.239&clusterName=FINRACluster&contentId=b48ce146-ffbb-449a-8238-fcb14b374f43&responseId=dfcca63070d7664b%3A1b1fbf4%3A128df437af5%3A5450&groupId=3&answerGroup=2&score=800&page=http%3A%2F%2Ffinra404.xhtml&result=1&excerpt=How+do+I+know+when+I%27m+entitled+to+a+dividend%3F&resultType=5002#Goto193
Is this the new Canadian based corporate liaison?
Does he replace the infamous Canadian monoplex crew (Parkin, etc.)?
_________________________________________________________________
Aurus website, Corporate, Management, bottom of page:
http://auruscorp.com/eng/management.aspx.htm
_________________________________________________________________
The Secretary of Aurus Corp.
Vyatcheslav Kouznetsov
Born: March 6, 1957
Baku, Azerbaijan, USSR
Located: since 1971 moved to Leningrad, since 1991 lives in Montreal, Canada
He acted in the position of Investor Relations for a number of public companies
operating in the field of natural resources.
He also has an expertise in public awareness programs to assist companies to
increase their position in the market. His proficiency in the Russian language
permitted him to represent
companies that made steps to enter the European and North American markets.
The blatant obfuscation of facts on this board is obsessive.
Every time Aurus Corp. releases news, it is ripped apart and misinterpreted by posters on this board. Some of this could be simple ignorance on the part of the posters, but most of the negative statements are simply bashing.
If a person is always looking for the bad and negative things about a subject; they will find it. They are not able to recognize positive facts. This is a prime example of “not being able to see the forest for the trees.”
I pity these people.
So, I'm still waiting for your proof.
You have a post from April 29, 2008. How is that relevant to the present Aurus management? They just took over in late 2009.
You are answering my questions with more questions. That has no meaning.
(eik) "I actually have a proof of Aurus-Zoloto connections and that Dovgan is still in the loop. May post it later… or maybe not – protecting “my sources”, you know."
(griz) What a bunch of utter nonsense and avoidance. Where are the facts?
IMO you are spewing deception.
What are you talking about Eik?
IMO you have let your imagination run away into IbreakU la la land, where facts do not exist!
You keep bringing up this Aurus/Krong and Zoloto Ventures PR attack. IMO it’s a figment of your imagination and/or a poorly executed bashing of Aurus.
I cannot find anything on the Aurus website where they claim to have this “Meshchera Lowland” property, which is the “Roshal chemical plant’s pile” near Moscow that you reference.
There is nothing in their press releases about a tailings pile. There is nothing in their financial statements or list of projects.
Read the iBox on this message board. Where does it say anything about your tailings dump?
You are living in the past. Still so upset about the Canucks taking your money through their NDOL pump and dump, that it skews your reality.
Have you ever considered that the tailings pile went away with Dovgan? Why do you continue fabricating stories?
Please show me a truthful and honest claim that Aurus is connected with this Zoloto Ventures hoax of yours.
Just for you Ms. Adams. The link is no longer valid.
Posted by: lostinstocks Date: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:37:28 AM
In reply to: None Post # of 101650
according to this we got back the Nerchinkiye dump in june this year.
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/080819/sgdm.ob10-q.html
Form 10-Q for STARGOLD MINES, INC
19-Aug-2008
Quarterly Report
Financial Condition, Liquidity and Capital Resources
In 2006, the Company obtained the rights to extract metals from two consignments of tailings, from the Nerchinskiye Rudniki mining dump (the "Nerchinkiye Dump") from Mining Corporation Zabaikalgeoprom Limited Liability Company, a Russian entity (the "Seller"). In June 2008, the Company returned to the Seller the Nerchinkiye Dump due to the absence of financial resources and technological facilities to extract precious and rare-earth metals from this property.
A very fine bit of research there, Eik.
Thanks for sharing your findings.
I value your judgement and admire your abilities to master both languages. Your insight has clarified many questionable and confusing areas.
Thank you, sir.
griz
I think I see your point. Kind of like; Better to give your money and personal information to the known crooks and thieves on wall street than to some foreigner. lol
Didn't mean to get so wordy on that post. Maybe I'm a bit sensitive about communicating on that level. It takes me back to a saying I heard. "Never argue with idiots. First, they pull you down to their level. Then, they beat you with experience."
Good to hear you get a hoot out of sparring with them. I need to seek more humor in this crazy world.
Happy Holidays!
So, Eik, are we talking basic human nature here?
People are going to latch on to everything that isn't claimed.
Look at the graft, corruption, coersion and cronyism here in the USA among the operatives controlling fraudstreet and DC. It just happens to be the largest theft operation, ever. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
I just retired from over 30 years in the military-industrial-government complex. I remained in the technical field, which was somewhat insulated from the corruption of management, but their tentacles reached everyone to some degree.
Don't be so harsh with the people in your native country. They are just human.
It's like this, see. You need 2see that Aurus did not wrong you, see. If you were wronged, it was likely by the Canuck team representing Aurus at the time, and that other guy, see. You know, da ole pump n dump scheme, see.
So! Bring us some facts, not just your usual drivel, and maybe someone will respond. First you need to establish some credibility.
Aurus seems to be on the right road by sending their representative to Delaware. We shall see. They have the funding and are definitely establishing credibility. Will they be able to provide Russian documents that meet US requirements for establishing an OTC account? Don't ask me. Do some DD, instead of accentuating the negative and complaining about no progress.
WHAT HE SAID! I CONCUR!
Thank you moldy. You have so eloquently stated what I have tried to post on numerous occasions. Unfortunately, my posts are usually deleted. Possibly because I am too specific or just too gnarly in my approach.
"Some, obviously, have nothing but bad things to say about Aurus. Even in the wake of improving the information link and following through with what they promised. The new Management has been doing what they said they would and deserve a chance at least. I see no room for criticism until they fail to deliver...So what motivates some to bash this, as soon as any question could be asked, some ask it with such negativity. Sour grapes? Potential losses if the SP goes up?
Some have no respect for longs, do not really comunicate in their posts, have no DD and must have an ulterior motive.
IMO"
Your statements are meaningless without knowing the relavent affiliation with Star Gold. Just more biased opinions.
All this wasted time and endless banter that only describes (in their opinion) the shortcomings of the designer of Aurus's website. They have no idea about the restrictions and limitations placed on the designer. Here in the US, companies spend tens of thousands of $US getting a website up and running. They pay for very expensive S/W and collaborate endlessly, at very high hourly costs. At least the Russians seem to be limiting their revenue expenditures.
These self proclaimed experts on web hosting give vampires a bad name. The deader the carcass, the more frenzied the attack. Their minds are so deep into it they fail to recognize their own sadistic nature.
griz
Eik, you are doing more than “just provide links and some related translation…” You are planting doubt by saying “the closer you get to Moscow – the more corrupted you are, the more chances to meet someone from Canada…” Then you state that “Elena is not responding to my polite email”. Then in another post, you state “Elena is a female. I don't even try to track her w/o some additional info (like we have for Andrey now). "Kalinina" is very common name.”
So, you won’t try to track her, but you go out of your way to insinuate that she is connected with the corruption in Moscow.
Why do you say the following?
“Nobody in Russia has ever read this PR; b) Slava (who mentioned as a contact) did not read it either.”
Your statements give me pause.