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badge, probably the best thing to do would be to flip through this board. i owned cvia shares before ka took over and actualy made money with him at the helm. but i sold on the runs and treated it like what it was. a penny stock. it looks like he is at it again with hemi except this time he does seem to have some type of potential income. with cvia there were alot of press releases, but nothing ever went anywhere. even the oil/gas wells with c trieber. i keep cvi and wtch and hemi on my favorites and skim the posts occasionally. it is amazing how the hemi board and the cvi board and probably all the penny/pink board sound so similar. just different names. i was a little shocked to see how many posts were being deleted on hemi. it kind of makes the whole paid shill thing a little easier to believe. take care.
Edit: i just checked back on silicon investor and there is a cvia thread there from 2000. i think the guy that runs ihub and si actuall posted there as mat brown or fatmat and owned some cvia. pretty funny. long time ago.
robin
ok, thanks. i thought maybe you knew of the specific posts if there were any. i noticed a few were removed a week or so back. take care.
tall man,
did you read any of the posts in question? i did not and just wonder how bad they were. matt says he was attacking folks, but there have been far more attacks from others in the past that were not met with this action. also, were is tomodachi? ok, he asked for no negative posts but he should have and still should come forward and explain what is going on. something smells fishy.
mike, this is what matt claims:
Sent By: IH Admin [Matt] Date: 6/6/2005 4:28:05 PM
he was personally attacking folks...
thats about 6 or 7
posters recently. tomodachi, where are you and how about an explaination? anybody else curious what is going on? Sal, how about an opinion? i pm'd matt/ihubadmin on friday eve but figure i probably will not hear from him till monday.
i have to think this is the death of wtch. no response from jack kinda tells another story also(to me any way). i pm'd matt to see if he new what was up. see ya.
OK what the heck is this all about? who else besides johnson cannot post here and why? is there something we all need to know jack?
From rbull:
ATTN: Mikepgator and others. Jack Rodgers took it upon himself to delete me from posting on IHUB along with others.
So I cannot post there and I will not kiss his or any one
elses rear to post there.
I hope he is happy and requested by phone to him to post
such so that those I call my friends could at least contact
me in other manner. He has neglected to do so up to now.
Sorry.
EJ
Re "no negative posts"
i did not figure that meant no posts at all. My apologies. I guess i had hoped for at least some positive discussion? But since there is not even that, that alone tells a story.
OT
Planning a trip to Wisconsin in the fall. We will probably fish in Peshtigo. I do not have any firm plans yet. I will keep in touch.
seems odd
eugene, tomodachi and joe all MIA.
where is everyone???
7 posts in 4 weeks. not even much entertainment value anymore! but it does look like the lack of negative posting has really increased the volume (TIC) um hmm
angler,
i mentioned this to someone along the way here already but if you look deep enough into a search of jezco you will find they already have had some contact with waste mgmnt. it appears as though wm began some type of deal with them or something but never followed through. jezco was awarded a sizeable amount of money I THINK. my memory is a little clouded.
nevermind, i started to post something and decided against it. anyway, wtch looks like more of the same stuff. do you have any idea how many people were issued the preferd shares? i am surprised more of them did not show up here looking for info?
hey angler. thanks for the fishing info last week. i have a few shares from the preferred conversion. just waiting for the next run up since it seems in all seriousness wtch will never be a real company. i read most of the posts and usually keep out of it but the absolute hypocrisy lately stirred up the evil me.
no i have not been fishing for awhile. i was just talking to my son about our trout season opening day this month. he loves it. i probably will go a couple times with him but am really looking forward to later this summer. we rented a beach house in the outer banks and i am hoping my sons in law, my sons and my self can do a charter and some surf fishing. i might make it up to peshtigo again in the fall also. see ya around.
greg,whats up, no trades at all today?
by the way,
seems odd doesn't it that both of jacks "rules and regulations" posts came after joes posts. both of which seemed ok. hmmm. hafta agree with you..."rules are enforced on some members but not others".
camp,
i have to agree with you. i am not sure but i don't think that many free trading shares were created by the conversion. i am sure joe or one of the other people here will have the exact number. and all through the cvia/waste saga shorting never really seemed to be a big part of the problem. the problem in my opinion was and still is empty promises and failed deals. typical penny stock games.
hmm, imagine my surprise,
i no longer have any cvia preferd shares in my account. they have been replaced with wtch shares. i am once again a shareholder. i have to admit i never thought it would happen.
now if only i could figure out what to do with the 300 some odd shares of ahcd!
mike,
check your mailbox.
no i didn't. i only asked about the prefered conversion. i am curious why they are doing this? if i am not mistaken no officer in the company owns any prefereds. it does not seem to benefit anyone but the shareholders and if so this is a first for the current mgmnt(imo). take care.
thanks rich. you got further than i did anyway. looking forward to hearing from you.
campe,
i called tuorto last week and he refered me to the transfer agent. i signed up online so i could email them but since i don't have an account with them i could not use the email system(?) i did not take the time to call them. i too have a few hundred prefereds i would like to unload.
robin
joe,
i don't know why. and really i do not care. if i thought this was a normal everyday buisness i would expect a different response. but this, imo, is just another penny stock trying to find new ways to run up the price and make a few bucks. unfortunately many of the people still holding shares were drawn into this mess by kieth and did not get out when the "gettin' was good". just my opinion.
hello again everyone.
i spoke to mr tuorto(sp). i was interested in knowing when the dividend and conversion would take place since it was not mentioned in the pr. he was surprisingly cordial. did not ask me if i owned any shares or what my concerns were. he directed me to transfer online for more info. i tried to join their site but i would have to register an account to be able to access the email system. has anyone made any contact with them to find out when they will be mailing out the forms?
robin
rena, and all, i still check regularly. cvia/wtch was a real education for me re penny stocks. my brokerage account still shows cvia prefereds(hopefully soon to be common) as well as achd(worthless i'm sure) i find it humerous that jack and johnson can still be so posative about the company. nothing this company has ever done, both with kieth at the helm and the current managment, could make most intelegent people believe this is anything but a typical penny stock shell game etc etc. but that is just my opinion. i hope for the sake of the people still holding many shares worth far less than paid for that wtch finds some new game to raise the value so you may recoup some or all and more of your investment dollars.
take care,
robin
angler, chck your private msgs.
rf
it is very interesting how the previous mgmnt and the current mgmnt are compared as night and day. it is very true kieth and his boys lined their pockets and nothing he ever introduced amounted to anything. but how is that any different from the current mgmnt? every deal they have entered into so far has done nothing. made no money and not added any value to cvia shares. and current mgmnt has done little but line their own and their relatives and friends pockets with shares. so whats the difference?
sublime,
who is the third party? russel mgmnt would be my guess. but if it is, how does russel come up with the free shares and/or restricted shares in all these various deals he has with willy?
r
Robin
too busy. i think chocolate is a universal anti depresant. it seems while many other places were slowing down, we got busier. can't complain though, puts food on the table!
robin
Robin
COOL beans man! how the heck do you do that? i think you should take the wizards spot here for entertainment at least!
robin
Robin
:)))
Robin
nah,, right now even crystal balls are fun!
r
Robin
yeah, we would hate to see the truth posted here now huh!
r
Robin
hey james, you "baste" a turkey. what many of us have done to the mgmnt was "bash". and if the new mgmnt is only blowing smoke we will all continue to "bash". if all the good things that have been claimed really happen, then those of us not in the cvia lollipop club with you can be ridiculed. as of now i try to hold back till i can with confidence say mays is really trying hard to increase my investment. i am still on the fence. after all, i think gene has more money directly invested in cvia(not just buying freem shares but giving cvi money directly) than mays does. i would feel a whole lot better if i knew mays had 20 or 30,000 dollars invested in the company. but then again, that didn't help us with kieth did it? so i continue to wait for something tangible.
robin
Robin
so john, where are you at by now? in fla to escape that snow up north?.or would that be down north?
Robin
rena, while no doubt most would have let it drop by now had this happened to them, i think most also would have been just as angered. why don't you suggest to jas that you be the board mgr. jack and maybe fitz could be the assistants? that would end my tirade.
robin
Robin
it will not be settled until things are returned to original or jas also steps down. that i am no longer an asst doesn't matter. that he is still the dir does. what he did was wrong, uncalled for and must be corrected. i was willing to let our first disagreement go. we both posted our opinions, i lost the arguement. end of story. i did not bring it up again. he did did.
Robin
until it is settled it will continue as my priority. you said jas told you he was willing to turn it over. then it is time to do that.
Robin
sorry fitz, can't do that. what jas did was wrong and completely changed the attitude of the board. it will be my priority until it is settled. and besides no one else is talking about anything anyway.
Robin
shyeesh mat, an active informative board? all that has been discused is jas foolishness and my dislike. NOTHING about cvia. pathetic.
Robin
you see jas, that is just what i am talking about. although it has been removed your post was just what i expected. instead of a descent statement that you disagree and why, you have to respond in a way that goes against your own rules. you have really disappointed me. you said before you would step down if anyone would be willing, i am sure someone would. hopefully it would be rena. the job is not that time consuming.
be a man jas. admit your mistake and move on.
Robin