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goldfork...
Thats simply not true. He has posted as have I and others very real proof JL does not have clean title and has not provided it to MSX. Look no further than MSX's latest filing and all those before it.
No SOOSHIE
Not desperate for cash....getting out before they suffer even more losses.
Tibby....
Almost there! better break out your piggy bank. Ever hear the saying don't try and catch a falling knife? Good advise right now with MSX stock. I think people are really starting to see some of the major contradictions from some of the longs they have trusted in the past and opening their eyes to the reality of it all.
Looks like high teens next week.....seems like some people here are starting to realize what is really going on.....good for them.
Also Grand Poobah....
You must have missed this post by me, could you please enlighten me? Thanks.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=84343191
NO....Don't think so! Refer to Hutches posts.
Answer 2 questions.....does JL HAVEclean title and has it been provided to MSX? Anything but 2 "yes" answers will show you to be wrong in tons of your previous posts.....but "yes" answers will go 100% against what todays legal filing says...please answer.
islandlooker:
you said: "because the said title for the gold is the claimed by 2 parties"
I thought you said you saw the clean title at the AGM?....How could that be if it is still in dispute? Please explain.
WELL:
I'd say if you know what MSX'S "plan" is then that would be insider information and that would be illegal if it has not been released to the public. By the way ....never mind what was said to you at the SHM.....read the LEGAL filing.
How is it garbage islandlooker???
It's ALL right there in the legal filing....sorry.
Soooo
Looking at the filing I see that JL has been paid almost 3.4 million and another 600k on the way until MAY.....you know I never noticed before (and this is very material and would have to be in the filing) that there is no "drop dead" date for JL to provide title.....which means 10 years from now he STILL wouldn't owe MSX the money back because he could just say....don't worry it's coming! And there is not a thing MSX could do to collect the shareholders money back.
OK....
This just gets better and better! Just read the whole filing and there is even more incriminating information in it.....heres a good one....
In December 2012 a motion was filed with the Fiscalia Cental norte of Santiago to ask Chilean authorities to START the process of investigating claims that part of Pacua Lama is not owned by Barrick.....
WOW! Ya that seems like JL has clean title! LOL! But don't worry...if this was started about a month ago you guys/gals will see clean title by about 2021....IF HE WINS! And THERE IS SOOOO MUCH MORE IN THERE....do you the shareholders actually read this stuff? If you did you wouldn't be so bullish on JL or MSX.
mitb:
Do you REALLY REALLY believe that? MSX had not been provided clean title as of 1-31-13 but they had it on 2-1-13? Remember, JL has been saying for MANY MONTHS that MSX has been provided with the clean title when obviously they were not....thats a shock.
And AS IT SAYS IN THE FILING and as I have said many times on the board if there WAS a significant/material event after the filing they would have had to put out a PR/filing saying so. And the PR of the other day doesn't cut it...."According to JL and his lawyer JL has clean title" LOL!!
And to REALLY top things off....I thought the "clean title" was shown at the 2012 SHAREHOLDERS MEETING??? ....but as of todays filing it hasn't been provided yet?? Someone with much more knowledge on these types of things please explain to me what in the world could be going on???? I'll give you one guess.
AMAZING!!!!
This is current as of 1-31-13 (at a minimum) and Lopehandia had still not provided clean title.....but the NEXT DAY it mysteriously appears at the shareholders meeting!! People....read the begining of that filing were is says EVERYTHING MUST BE FACTUAL.....as I have said 100 times before JL does not have clean title and it HAS NOT BEEN PROVIDED TO MSX ! This is a legal filing....and not a shareholders meeting.....meaning the REAL TRUTH.
I just have to say regarding this "press release"....
How is this an update "with regard to its joint venture with Jorge Lopehandia in Chile"? This is an update to JL's ongoing legal pursuit against Barrick and nothing more. MSX has NOTHING to do with this case.....JL is the plaintiff not MSX. IF JL won this 8 years (minimum) from now what good would that do you the shareholder? Nothing.
JL already has clean title,right? How about an update on the status of financing to fufill MSX's part of the agreement? Don't hold your breath because you can't even begin to do that without a clean title....and JL DOES NOT have it.! Also....again MSX takes no responsibility for the content of the PR by saying the lawyer says so....with ONE exception....now they are saying it's the company (MSX's) lawyer???....but tuesdays release says Juan Guillermo Torres Fuentealba is JL's lawyer??????? So....either MSX has made yet ANOTHER mistake in their press release or the company and JL have the same lawyer.....but that CAN'T be because that would be conflict of interest having the same lawyer before the JV would be completed....the saga just goes on and on but certainly does not get any better for MSX. MSX got conned into financing JL's legal battle and nothing more.
goldpanner....
It might have been dated for the 4th but it came out today....no?
goldfork:
That is nothing that you would be voting on as a shareholder....thats a BOD decision only. Natscore is right though...ALL Press releases from MSX have been poorly written and this one is no exception
The qualifications of the latest BOD's......
Major shareholders
Investing experience
Know a lot about MSX
Do you people know what type of BOD MSX could attract if this JL story was true? They would have their pick of top officers from major corporations all over the world....instead they take people with the above "experience" Ya...MSX will really take off now.
My best guess, IMO only....these major shareholders were pissed that their investment has gone down the tubes and let Brent know it...so he satisfied them by giving them a BOD job so they can draw a salary and get more shares to offset their losses.
Silver....
And JL is such a great guy he will sell half of Mina Pascua to MSX for 1.5 billion (give them more time) when he could get 5 billion on the open market RIGHT NOW for that same half .... because after all he has clean title right now....greed and hope blinds people to whats right in front of them.
Grand Poobah:
JL owns ZERO and this deceitful Press release today shows me exactly what really happened at that shareholder meeting without being there. LET THE COMPANY COME OUT AND SAY THEY CONFIRM THAT JL IS THE CLEAN TITLE OWNER OF MINA PASCUA They won't... because he isn't. You see nothing wrong with the wording of that PR today? It was obvious it was intentional and they were hoping to get away with it without anybody questioning it. Boy would I love for someone to post pics of these "clean titles" that were posted at the meeting....I could prove them phoney in 48 hours.
So to get this straight...you think that the PR today is confirmation by MSX that JL has clean title....your answer will tell all
Eclipse,,,,
LOL....you sure are cocky for someone who doesn't have a clue what they are talking about. Luckily by the look of the shareprice no one is buying into it.
Eclipse.....
I have many years experience in publicly traded companies from the pink sheets through NYSE and have seen this type of misleading press release a hundred times...sorry, but you are doing nothing but giving it your best guess.
No Eclipse,
Actually his post is just about spot on....and I have done plenty of "research"
And by the way by the look of the share price.....not many are buying into it and ARE seeing the attempted deceit.
rover....
If you really believe that that press release says anything but "this is what Lopeandia and his attorney are telling us"....then god help your investment. You WANT to believe it SO BAD that you can't see that this is just another NOTHING PR.
Heap and everybody....
PLEASE tell me you read the press release! All this press release says is this is what JL and his attorney are telling Mountainstar!.
There is no where where it is saying Mountainstar CONFIRMS this information. This is a very deceiving press release for the novice....but it was intentionally written that way.....shame on Brent JOHNSON the new BOD for their attempted deceit. This really shows me what this company is in for.
IMO
MSX will close at the end of this week at .20 PLUS OR MINUS 2 cents. If there is no momentum after a shareholders meeting it's look out below!
Yes.
Get a real business with real revenue. Not some pie in the sky "everybody is going to get rich" fantasy. Yes JL is such a nice guy
letting little ole MSX shareholders own half of a 70 billion++ gold mine..... do you realize that if he had clean title to Mina Pascua he could sell it RIGHT NOW for 8-10 billion? MSX will never see a cent of that 3 million again.
If the 2 BOD's were really blindsided.....as soon as they sell whatever shares the have they will be on the
message boards in short order telling what really is happening/not happening at the company....seen it happen many times before.
Newgold:
You said:
"With all of the info at the AGM this week should be priceless"
Any significant information put out at the shareholders meeting (a reason someone would buy or sell shares) has to be released to the public within 24 business hours (meaning weekends don't count as the markets are closed).....times up. You were all fed more gibberish. There won't be any PR worth the paper it's written on coming out....ever.
Yep.....must have been one heck of a MSX shareholders meeting.
The board is booming with excitement and the share price and volume are going through the roof....NO ONE IS BUYING THE CLEAN TITLE GARBAGE ANYMORE.....Well most aren't
Well wrong on 2 acounts:
1)I stopped the pump and dump with one phone call to the BCSC.....BELIEVE IT OR NOT (yes Brent, that was me).... The BCSC IS watching JL and Papalia very closely because of Papalias past stock scams.
2) You will see in my last post about the meeting that I said that I thought JL would show up because he would be forced to.
As far as authorities at the meeting I can not confirm or not yet....so you MIGHT have me on that one......let see what the next 45-60 days brings ...OK?
Mind pointing those out to me? TIA
goldpanner....
Do you think that having clean title to Mina Pascua is important info? I do.
Where is the news release/filing since the last filing saying JL had not provided clean title and the case was still in dispute? You are being bamboozled by MSX if they posted "clean title" at the meeting and represented it as such.
Looks like bootstrap is starting to see through the BS.
So JL has had clean title for many months now? When is the financing going to start? I am sure this was asked at the meeting and no clear answer was given.....as bootstrap says.....there is no plan! But....that's because there is nothing to have a plan over.
Auracle.....
You have been around here longer than I have. Do you REALLY think there will be this blockbuster PR on monday.....REALLY?????? Come on.
Heap:
Actually I won't report anything back to the board.....but you will know what the results are. Don't count on the BCSC (thats just where I am starting) brushing this aside. I have many contacts made over many years and will bring them into play. I was actually going to do this a few months back but didn't want to spend the time. By the way, you can tell by the lack of excitement on the board that no one is buying into this story as most were at one time.
catchathief:
The real question is how come the latest filing says he has not provided MSX with clean title because it is still in dispute and now the titles suddenly appear posted at the MSX meeting? There would had to have been a filing put out by MSX saying it has been resolved and JL is the owner. That would have been a filing MSX would have HAD TO put out because of the significance of the event ...I must have missed that filing???? I really didn't want to spend much time on this but starting monday I am filing an official complaint starting with the BCSC.....this scam has to stop.
GOLDEN...
"Now how do we get rid of the losers on this board and talk about the positive"
I can assume your talking about me? You want to get rid of me? Someone who took a picture of the titles (the Spanish ones.... I will get it interpreted myself)post it somewhere on the net....like JL has been promising for months, for me to get it verified. If it is real...I am gone with an apology to all....simple as that. Want to bet I GET NO TAKERS?
I already responded to half this post accusing me of PMing you.....what, I am not allowed to respond to your nasty pm??? And it wasn't a few days ago it was over a month ago. And why would posting that PM from me "checkmate my integrity"? I have posted the same thing on IHUB many times but it got deleted....thanks for helping me get the truth out by posting it though!
Now....to the titles....did someone AT LEAST take a clear picture of them....something??????? I knew no one one would have the nerve....follow blindly!
I don't really care if I am to aggressive for your liking.... I am not out to satisfy YOU.