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interesting day today. Up and down. Nice swings
Nice bounce today $$$$$$$$$$
another chinese fall. thats the third one in a row.
WATG LGFTY PUDA.
Wow, the ask is getting really thin now. Tomorrow should be fun.
That was just the small one. LOL
I thought 1.00 to 1.90 was the bounce? hehehe
Looks ready to start the bounce. IMO
yep. hopefully it stops
Seems like relentless selling from that high..
anything is possible here. hit $1.94 high for now
Thought we would see a bounce back to $2+
that's a lot of cash and going
This company is worth $8-10 per share on book value alone
$60m in cash
$250m in net assets
Interesting one here, im in for a bounce
WATG delisted from Nasdaq:
http://nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=TradeHalts
Unhalting tomorrow.
SEC to meet Chinese counterparts
reuters
On Friday July 8, 2011, 8:24 am
BEIJING, Jul (Reuters) - U.S. securities and accounting regulators will meet Chinese counterparts next week to negotiate an agreement on joint U.S.-Chinese inspections of auditing firms in China, the U.S. government said on Friday.
Representatives from the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board (PCAOB) will meet officials from China's ministry of finance and the China Securities Regulatory Commission in Beijing, PCAOB said in a statement.
A string of accounting scandals at U.S.-listed Chinese companies has increased pressure on regulators in both nations to toughen oversight of Chinese auditors.
"I believe we share a common objective with Chinese regulators to protect investors and safeguard audit quality through our mutual cooperation," PCAOB chairman James R. Doty said.
U.S. and Chinese officials agreed in May during U.S.-China economic dialogue in Washington D.C. that the two sides should step up efforts to come to terms, and some sort of deal was likely to be reached, analysts said.
A full-fledged agreement that allows the PCAOB, the U.S. auditor watchdog, to review the work and papers of China-based auditors through formal inspections would be difficult to achieve, they said.
Warned everyone about the Chinese connection months ago. Good luck to all.
This just got ugly. Hope my warnings saved a few from this. I hope it turns out ok
I warned a while back things were not looking right. I had no idea they would be this bad. Still don't want to touch this but I have a hunch they will recover one day
Yeah, that is what makes it interesting.
Interesting article with WATG included
19 Companies Whose Growth Exceeds Their Stock Prices
by: Kurtis Hemmerling February 27, 2011
| about: AHCI / ANAT / ANW / AOB / CSKI / DCO / ESA / EVK / FBMI / FSBK / GTU / JGBO / LEO / PBNY / USBI / WATG
The hunt is on for the next undervalued stock pick that will pop once enough investors realize the market price is irrational. While this theory is grand to contemplate - that a stock will jump as soon as people come to their senses - the reality is that these picks often have valuation problems for a reason.
Still, if we can find companies increasing their net worth at a higher rate than share prices, there just might be a profitable pop if enough attention is driven their way or if earnings forecasts begin to rise.
How will we look for such undervalued picks?
1. PE ratios below their 5 year averages
2. Price to book ratio of 1 or less
3. Book value growth vastly exceeding share price growth (or share price drop vastly exceeding book value decline)
Keep in mind that these could be highly contrarian stock picks where share price is falling faster than book value, or it could be that book value has grown despite earnings tapering off with a waffling share price. In a few rare circumstances there might be stocks with greatly increasing earnings and book values that have yet to be reflected fully in the increasing share price.
19 Potentially Undervalued Stocks With a Few Metrics
Ticker Market Cap(mil) P/E PEG P/S P/B P/Cash
ANAT 2164.91 15.14
0.7 0.6 13.13
GTU 885.61 4.74
5.57 1.01 1.01
LEO 458.33 10
10.38 0.6
ESA 421.74 10.24 0.68 0.77 0.87 26.31
ANW 414.9 8.97 0.51 0.1 0.84 5.66
PBNY 358.7 16.77
3.03 0.86 10.3
WATG 237.7 7.71 0.42 0.87 1.05 3.92
DCO 230.79 18.63 1.43 0.56 0.92 128.93
AOB 176.04 6.79 0.97 0.55 0.42 1.9
AHCI 105.88 12.15 1.22 0.39 0.7 3.06
JGBO 80.07 1.97
0.79 0.51 0.65
CSKI 78.58 2.03
0.58 0.5 1.09
FBMI 53.36 25.37
0.74 0.36 2.11
FSBK 52.36 9.26
1.17 0.6 3.21
USBI 48.86 16.94
1.07 0.58 4.1
EVK 30.24 6.83
0.29 0.83 10.15
NFEC 21.85 4.27
0.94 0.85 44.6
IMH 21.37 10.19 2.55 0.02 0.82 2.02
CZFC 17.67 11.96
1.01 0.46 1.19
Looking at this list we notice a few interesting ratios. First, their market caps are quite small with only a few stocks being above the $300 million cut-off. PEG is only listed on some of the stocks, as many of these stocks do not have 5-year forecasts available (check out these 7 Low Modified-PEG Stocks that uses a different approach if a 5-year forecast does not exist). A price-to-sales under 1 is considered a good metric by Ken Fisher, and low price-to-book and price-to-cash should provide some support for these stocks.
Price Performance
With a couple exceptions, these stocks have all had a rocky year and are contrarian stock picks with falling prices.
Ticker Performance (Week) Performance (Month) Performance (Quarter) Performance (Half Year) Performance (Year)
ANAT -6.05% -7.79% 1.14% 8.41% -23.04%
GTU 2.41% 7.02% 2.29% 9.26% 19.15%
LEO -2.98% -1.83% -6.95% -13.89% -5.30%
ESA -7.73% 4.37% 3.61% 26.47% 67.97%
ANW -4.61% -21.76% -10.49% -41.77% -69.57%
PBNY -2.09% -3.40% -1.68% 19.62% 10.34%
WATG 4.93% -6.15% -16.33% -5.65% -28.66%
DCO -2.18% -1.96% -1.70% 14.06% 27.49%
AOB -3.03% -5.49% -2.61% -1.32% -46.02%
AHCI 4.74% -3.19% -21.10% 21.50% -12.27%
JGBO 11.11% -4.40% -15.66% -29.13% -43.40%
CSKI -1.06% -13.01% -37.85% -52.00% -69.86%
FBMI -3.11% 3.63% 37.27% 47.63% 9.95%
FSBK -1.83% -11.82% -34.51% -43.35% -47.76%
USBI -23.16% -26.49% -14.87% -21.45% -41.34%
EVK -3.76% -14.23% 1.99% -24.08% -40.41%
NFEC 0.00% -10.68% -5.75% -39.26% -48.75%
IMH -2.83% -1.08% 1.85% 1.10% -30.90%
CZFC 12.83% 17.87% 24.58% 32.89% 37.37%
Some of the stocks on the list are ones I have previously shied away from. AOB is one such pick with falling profit margins. However, based solely on rising book value, cash, and sales, it could be near a bottom - but future forecasts would need to improve first. If this happened, a big pop in valuation could occur. If margins continue to slide or stay low, this could sit and slide more yet.
What are future expectations? Forward P/E is usually made on the future 12 months, as opposed to PEG being made on 5 year growth. If forward P/E is lower, we can expect an earnings increase next year when compared to this year. (Keep in mind that upcoming quarters could be expecting an EPS drop, with recovery next year. So current PE could theoretically be higher than next year's forward EPS, despite a year-over-year anticipated growth ratio. Forward PE compared to current PE may not reflect future negative quarters in this years EPS.)
Ticker P/E Forward P/E EPS growth next year
ANAT 15.14 19.08 9.02%
GTU 4.74
LEO 10
ESA 10.24 11.78
ANW 8.97 16.42 3.92%
PBNY 16.77 16.47 7.55%
WATG 7.71 5.62 28.87%
DCO 18.63 10.27 12.63%
AOB 6.79 7.47 15.38%
AHCI 12.15 12.79 11.76%
JGBO 1.97 3.13 0.00%
CSKI 2.03 3 -14.29%
FBMI 25.37 19.03 38.46%
FSBK 9.26
USBI 16.94 5.11 32.50%
EVK 6.83
NFEC 4.27 3.28 21.36%
IMH 10.19
CZFC 11.96
So what is your take on these stocks? Is there one or more on the list you'd feel comfortable investing in? Are you more inclined to invest with the price droppers or the price poppers? Do you prefer upwards momentum that is still undervalued compare to book value and P/E, or low-priced stocks with intrinsic value?
WATG is a Chinese company. And the risk of accounting fraud in Chinese companies,especially those based in China and with lower tier accounting firms,is pretty high.
The stock looks broken. Unless the company issues news that is both believable and big, there are better investments out there. IMO
Again my fear here is this, The market has been strong and WATG has faltered. That is an unusual pattern for this stock. What happens if the major markets do a retrace from this latest surge?
Looking at the WATG chart, it better hold here or else. HELLO $6.00!
considering the charts and the overall market this should have moved already. The recent news from the company and overall bad sentiment towards Chinese stocks has this dead locked right now and I fear it could break to very bad levels
I hope not we will see....
WATG chart does look like a Double Bottom
Normally with a chart setup like this one WATG would move up strong. I traded this same pattern many times for big gains. This time I am concerned. The new filings leave concern the backlash of other China stocks getting bad wraps plays a role as well
Going to be interesting what happens from here
By earnings the week of Feb.7th, I see $10
I love the chart short and long term.
IMO
Ray
its pretty looks like its going to bounce strong. Chart tells me buy tomorrow
Any thoughts why the receibles are growing much faster than revenue?
I've had WATG on my watch list for a while and thought I'd start doing some DD. The first thing the jumped out was the growth in A/R over past 3 quarters. In dec-09 f/s, A/R was $87.5m vs revenue os $62.4m of a coverage rate of 1.4x In sep-10 A/R was $167.9m vs revenue of $78.8m or coverage of 2.13x. That's about a 50% increase in relative A/R which is pretty significant. I also looked at Sept-09 to see if it was seasonality but that ratio was AR of $81.2 vs Rev of $58.96 or 1.38x.
Has anyone researched this and found the driver of this increase?
TIA