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well, i think it got pushed by someone i know,so i avoided it as i was afraid it would spike too fast, til i saw it had a nice chart after the hype, then i jumped in, and thats what kills it...my bad luck killed it.
dont believe me? look at hmit.. i jumped in on friday, and look at it just in 2 days.
Hey Fellow Gamblers!
I saw this stock weeks ago, didn't buy, but why is this stock so F**ked up?
It has so much going for it...What happened?
Thanks!
Also, my after-hour TDAmeritrade Stream is showing trades for VVWT going red and green (up and down values) between 0.18 and 0.52
Go figure.
Yes, like I said twilight zone stuff...Is that a short ask order? I've never seen a negative quantity ask. Puzzling....maybe an email to OTC would be in order?
I am also referring to the (-)1 value at the ASK by DOMS
I was wondering what's the significance of this negative value
and you're SURE this one does?
If what you're seeing looks like the twilight zone then yes....I don't ever remember seeing an ask of 0.0000 on the bid yes but not the ask. Is this why TDA and SCTRD restricted (inaccurate quotes)?
L2 Summary
Bid Level #MM's Size Ask Level #MM's Size
0.1300 1 1 0.1500 1 100
0.1000 2 200 0.1600 2 101
0.0000 4 301 0.1900 1 100
0.0000 0 0 0.2700 1 100
L2 Quote:
MM on Bid : 7
MM on Ask : 9
MM ID Bid Size Time
UBSS 0.1300 1 15:58:57
NITE 0.1000 100 15:59:13
VERT 0.1000 100 12:33:06
DOMS 0.0000 100 15:52:37
FRAN 0.0000 100 15:54:30
ABLE 0.0000 100 14:24:36
HILL 0.0000 1 15:24:25
MM ID Ask Size Time
DOMS 0.0000 -1 15:52:37
NACI 0.1500 100 15:52:56
UBSS 0.1600 1 15:58:57
NITE 0.1600 100 15:59:13
FRAN 0.1900 100 15:54:30
ABLE 0.2700 100 14:24:36
VFIN 0.4100 100 07:15:05
HILL 0.5800 2500 15:24:25
VERT 0.6500 100 12:33:06
TFW
Re: someone doing the trading, but not showing up.
look up VVWT at: http://www.allstocks.com/html/free_level_2_pink_sheet_stock_.html and tell me if this is not weird
Do you see what I see?
D.
You know what I find perplexing is the fact that they have not driven this down to $.10 like they appear to be trying to do. Somebody somewhere (not showing on these L2s) is buying????
Another thought; If HILL is short here why are they not on the bid to cover????
VVWT Level II Quotebook
Time MMID Size Bid
12:33 VERT 10,000 0.100
Ask Size MMID Time
0.150 10,000 NACI 15:52
0.190 10,000 FRAN 15:54
0.410 10,000 VFIN 16:22
0.450 10,000 DOMS 08:52
0.580 250,000 HILL 15:24
0.650 10,000 VERT 12:33
Time and Sales
Time Price Volume
15:59 0.130 10,000
15:59 0.135 9,700
15:58 0.135 3,000
15:58 0.130 3,000
15:54 0.135 2,300
15:54 0.140 1,000
15:54 0.130 3,300
15:54 0.140 1,000
15:52 0.150 5,000
15:49 0.145 2,000
15:49 0.150 2,000
15:37 0.150 2,000
15:25 0.145 1,300
15:24 0.150 1,300
15:24 0.150 500
15:23 0.150 1,000
15:23 0.150 1,300
15:17 0.150 10,000
15:15 0.150 12,500
15:13 0.150 20,000
Heh, I got a couple of those! Anybody wanna buy some OMOG, ATLJ or CTTD from me! lol.
In pinky land it's all part of the game. You just want more winners than losers.
Ohh man, i feel your pain, thats a bum deal.
Thanks for the info Dalcindo.
guys, it could be worse, i put about 400 into vvwt and 400 into hmit.. i bought hmit last fri like at .16 and its at .02,, i lost it all, no sense to sell it now.
hope my pain cheers you up.
Well said and agreed whole heartedly.....
RHS, I agree with you on the technicality, but TA is only good for stocks whose PPS is untampered and allow to progress based on underlying market forces.
Here, the PPS is painted but unnatural brushstrokes in market makers' hands.
I can only say that historically, this stock has finally reached a point that filled a PPS gap that had been left open eversince it took off over the past year period.
The real issue is that of manipulation, so the direction remains uncertain.
D.
I personally am thinking that this will ride up again, but the only reason I think this is because the charts are pointing to the stock being way oversold.
Dalcindo could you give me your take?
Well Im still in, at least for a little while.
Wonder why HILL only has a bid in for 100, usually he's up there around 100,000!
I sure would like more support on the bid but ask seems to be holding up here....wish my hands were uncuffed so I could try and paint one.....
VVWT Level II Quotebook
Time MMID Size Bid
08:49 ABLE 10,000 0.150
11:03 UBSS 100 0.150
09:59 HILL 100 0.100
10:05 NITE 10,000 0.100
Ask Size MMID Time
0.180 10,000 NITE 10:05
0.190 100 UBSS 11:03
0.240 10,000 HDSN 09:08
0.260 10,000 NACI 08:32
0.270 10,000 ABLE 08:49
0.290 10,000 FRAN 11:29
0.410 10,000 VFIN 16:22
0.450 10,000 DOMS 08:52
0.580 250,000 HILL 09:59
0.650 10,000 VERT 15:00
Time and Sales
Time Price Volume
11:29 0.160 2,000
11:29 0.160 10,000
11:26 0.170 600
11:26 0.170 6,500
11:26 0.160 10,000
11:11 0.170 400
11:11 0.160 400
11:01 0.165 9,000
11:01 0.180 9,000
10:59 0.175 2,000
10:59 0.175 1,000
10:36 0.165 2,806
10:36 0.175 2,806
09:59 0.160 5,000
09:59 0.160 5,000
09:59 0.160 6,000
09:44 0.160 4,860
09:30 0.160 1,000
09:30 0.160 5,000
09:30 0.170 2,000
Maybe but I ain't heard no fat lady sing yet. There is a lot of uncertainty here that hopefully will settle out positive but this is a pink sheet equity and as such should be expected to be a gamble either way.
For the time being I am not adding or dumping. Patience is the best I can employ. We may get lucky and get a solid PR that bumps investability interest.
TFW, this stock is dead..
Holy crap!!
We opened 2 cents up!! I bet a dollar, or 1000 shares of VVWT, whichever is more, that this 2 cent gain doesn't hold til noon.
What a surprise, it didn't even hold for the time it took to type this message...
Do you guys realize this stock is trading at the same price as several companies that don't even have a marketable product? I'm not joking here.
Ok, so what should we be doing here? Maybe flipping this thing in the .15-.20 window? Right now, it wouldn't surprise me if this company didn't even exist.
Maybe we'll get a press release from these guys... "Viva signs exclusive distribution deal for urine flavored malt liquor".. most of this is for comedic purposes, but let's face it.. we've lost alot of the investor pool with what has transpired over the past 2 weeks.
Oh, did I tell you that two emails to tcollins@whatthef*ckever.com went unreturned? This stinks..
ya, i noticed that too. is it true its locked in restriction? ive dealt w/stocks that are restricted but its always just temporary.
Yup me too. did you check their site for feature?
Great, Stockwire just sent an email out... didn't even mention VVWT.. i guess it's time to move on.
I must admit I do not like the looks of things. I can't honestly tell those that can't afford to take a loss to hold.
Since I've turned profit already I'm not selling but If I didn't I might. Really quite sad but so goes the pink game.
This stock is falling apart. I didn't even watch it today. It amazes me this thing was on the brink of .50 not even a month ago. Did VVWT file bankruptcy or something?
TFW, we're in trouble here.. if they don't lift this restriction, we're going to be headed back to .02. Some clown on stockwire says he spoke with scottrade and they said the restriction was permanent. We're never going to get back to even .30 like this.
Yeah, thats one good thing about today!
Well, at least HILL is up towards the top! eom
Good afternoon. L2's kinda week today but seem to be holding ground.....
VVWT Level II Quotebook
Time MMID Size Bid
13:11 UBSS 100 0.160
10:59 ABLE 10,000 0.150
13:00 NITE 10,000 0.150
11:40 FRAN 10,000 0.100
Ask Size MMID Time
0.170 10,000 NACI 13:16
0.190 10,000 NITE 13:00
0.215 10,000 FRAN 11:40
0.240 100 UBSS 13:11
0.270 10,000 ABLE 10:59
0.410 10,000 VFIN 16:22
0.580 250,000 HILL 15:30
0.650 10,000 VERT 15:00
Time and Sales
Time Price Volume
13:26 0.160 20,000
13:26 0.161 20,000
13:19 0.170 1,000
13:17 0.170 1,000
13:16 0.160 1,150
13:12 0.180 1,000
13:11 0.180 1,800
13:00 0.170 14,199
13:00 0.175 10,000
13:00 0.180 40,000
13:00 0.175 7,200
12:57 0.160 1,000
12:53 0.170 1,800
12:44 0.170 5,000
12:44 0.171 9,999
12:43 0.170 1,800
12:32 0.170 200
12:27 0.175 2,000
12:24 0.175 4,800
12:21 0.175 6,000
Good Morning!
Lets hope for a steady week, steady up that is.
onlyonegail on hmit - hey this stock looks pretty good - what do you think of the proposed sail for 2.1 a share - do you think it will go through?
this stock seems to have more potentiall than vvwt
lets just hope so - sold have half my shares of vvwt for hmit
L2's not so bad but we're looking for bids to stack and stability above $.17 FYI GLTA and GM.
VVWT: Price Change % Change Volume Bid/Ask Day High/Low
0.180
+0.010 5.88% 50,847 N/A / N/A 0.180 / 0.170
VVWT Level II Quotebook
Time MMID Size Bid
09:33 UBSS 100 0.170
14:22 FRAN 10,000 0.170
08:37 ABLE 10,000 0.150
b09:04 NITE 10,000 0.150
Ask Size MMID Time
0.180 10,000 NITE 09:04
0.220 10,000 ABLE 08:37
0.240 100 UBSS 09:33
0.260 10,000 NACI 14:39
0.270 10,000 FRAN 14:22
0.410 10,000 VFIN 16:22
0.580 250,000 HILL 15:30
0.650 10,000 VERT 15:00
Time and Sales
Time Price Volume
09:34 0.180 1,000
09:33 0.175 10,000
09:33 0.180 20,000
09:32 0.180 200
09:32 0.180 1,000
09:30 0.180 5,000
09:30 0.180 1,000
09:30 0.170 11,000
09:30 0.180 1,647
06/08 0.170 49,119
06/08 0.170 100,000
06/08 0.180 5,000
06/08 0.180 5,000
06/08 0.180 5,000
06/08 0.180 1,500
06/08 0.180 5,000
06/08 0.180 11,500
06/08 0.180 30,000
06/08 0.180 10,000
06/08 0.180 8,000
well i just want it to go to .50
wishful thinking but you never know
i was dumb enough to buy in the mid 30's and watching it crash was heartbreaking
but some of the reasoning you guys have giving for the crash, gives me some reassurance that it will come back up
but i also learnt not to be greedy and take the gain and move on
"is the restriction working to his advantage?" Yes. The restrictions by Sloptrade and Ameriturd create doubt and uncertainty which curbs speculative traders.
It also means guys like us can't fight the painting done by the MMs. Often times when you see a POS like HILL or ABLE working the ceiling we can throw a bid out on their ask and watch em run for cover. I believe and have complained accordingly that ST and TDA are conspiring with the specialists in their favor....after all wall street is a scratch my back sorta club! As long as the SEC allows the online brokerages to "make their own rules" by means of user agreements they will get away with this as they please.
These guys will play the game both ways all day long grabbing 2, 3, 4 cents at a time which can be 10-20% flips for them going up or coming down.
hi guys,,, i hope they lift it too? i bought some in the 20's and some in the teens.
I know how that feels. averaging down sucks but has to be done to reduce your losses and hopefully get some in return. my guess is it'll go up when they start covering which will be near the end of the month
We'll get the volume and the buying pressure as soon as the online buy restriction is lifted. I'm just hoping this coming week is the week it all happens. Then we'll have one more thing to worry about... the millions of shares that will be dumped in the low 20s by all the people who bought in at .16. Man, I was only able to average down to .36... depressing, but workable.
they are shorting. that's the only reason they are holding it down. they are buying time to cover. this play needs a serge in volume and buying pressure to break the hold. best of luck guys.
why does Hill have so much power over this stock? is the restriction working to his advantage? i just don't see why this guy Hill would care so much about this one stock!
HILL is a bastard.
Market Maker: HILL Thompson Magic and Co.
(201)434-8100
who the heck is HILL?
"bull trap" Took the words right out of my mouth.
HILL backed out nicely. Not sure if this is a bull trap or what
adamp,
im in hmit (at .16) as i doubled my money on it a few days ago, but it dropped hard since i have sold at like .12 today, ouch.. but watch that one..
im also in paim,, most of my money is in that.. they have a lot going on, but if you can get it for .0002 or .0003, you may have a very nice ride after 6/30.. the p/r of a couple days ago is talking in code.. so dont let that last line worry you.. the i/r there is jeff, and hes new.. and emails us constantly (if you get on the email list) and you can call him, and he really answers the phone. great guy..
i bought prol, but dont go there yet.. long story.
watching pmcl.. just sold that to get hmit today.
Heh we finished green! Weeeeeee....I see a real potential for a bottom here but still hesitant to call it safe yet. EOD L2:
VVWT Level II Quotebook
Time MMID Size Bid
14:22 FRAN 10,000 0.170
Ask Size MMID Time
0.260 10,000 NACI 14:39
0.270 10,000 FRAN 14:22
0.410 10,000 VFIN 16:22
0.580 250,000 HILL 15:30
0.650 10,000 VERT 15:00
Time and Sales
Time Price Volume
15:30 0.170 49,119
15:23 0.170 100,000
15:18 0.180 5,000
15:14 0.180 5,000
15:14 0.180 5,000
15:13 0.180 1,500
15:11 0.180 5,000
15:07 0.180 11,500
14:59 0.180 30,000
14:55 0.180 10,000
14:50 0.180 8,000
14:47 0.180 26,800
14:19 0.180 13,000
14:16 0.180 500
13:58 0.180 10,500
13:58 0.180 10,000
13:52 0.180 1,400
13:47 0.180 5,000
13:46 0.180 5,000
13:40 0.180 2,500
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