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Some people seem to be under the misconception that some of Verses' beta partners asked for NDAs.
The likelihood is that it was Verses who put the NDA in place while they see if Genius can actually work in those fields.
Why would you PR some partnerships and hide others?Only to keep potential competitors at bay while they try and get Genius to work with those systems and finish getting whatever kinks are still there for this field out of the way.
Interesting post by Denise Holt...
"Comments | LinkedIn" https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7297683297348788226
Is it on YouTube?
The use of AI is just beginning.It's like when Tesla first announced they were going to build EVs.
Tesla went through some tough periods,but now everybody is building them,and all sorts of tech has been built,bought out and implemented to improve all the EVs.
Verses AI is in the perfect position to be releasing Genius.
The betas aren't the big target,they are just there to prove the concept
No telling where Genius gets used,or by whom once it's released over the next 6-12 months.
Sometimes stocks can be very hard on the nerves.You're in them for a year or so,believe in them,hoping they start to run,but they seem to keep hitting a wall...like this one.
I remember a miner called Garibaldi Resources about 8-9 years ago that I held.
Bought at .15....It was stuck around .17 forever,ran some once and came down again...Still stuck at .17.
I sold in frustration because the CEO never promoted,never spoke,but the play had real potential.
A month later they brought in two geologists,one a big name in nickel,the other also,but he knew how to promote.
Within 6 months GGI went from .17 to over $5.00.
I could've kicked myself because I didn't have the patience to wait.
Grok just failed to be an improvement...Open AI just failed to improve...Both spent hundreds of millions for nothing.
Is our GGI moment about to take place?...I don't know,but if it wasn't close to finding out,I believe a lot of talented people would be fleeing the ship,and I don't see that happening.
The public hasn't even seen Genius yet,not even a glimpse.
Over 3500 applied for the beta,they chose less than 10.
Anyone watch the webinar with Karl Friston?
Are you being compensated by Verses?
This might be a good read for you:
https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/ftcs-endorsement-guides-what-people-are-asking
This is what Gabriel Rene keeps talking about...
"Comments | LinkedIn" https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7296949678552571905
'Integrates with existing systems...'
'Interoperable...'
"VERSES Announces the First Wayfinder-Based AI Routing Agent" https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2023/06/26/2694144/0/en/VERSES-Announces-the-First-Wayfinder-Based-AI-Routing-Agent-for-Multi-System-Spatial-Computing.html
"Blue Yonder Launches Interoperable Solutions To Unlock Performance and Build Supply Chain Resilience" https://media.blueyonder.com/blue-yonder-launches-interoperable-solutions-to-unlock-performance-and-build-supply-chain-resilience/
https://diginomica.com/blue-yonder-aims-one-speed-supply-chains-new-ai-and-knowledge-graph-updates
Even way back in the Wayfinder days of 2023,the Verses technology,now called Genius was built to fit on top of existing systems,both software and hardware,integrate and enhance the system already in place to maximize the capabilities for each company.
Genius is not made to replace,but to improve.
Abilities the existing systems failed to have,can now be achieved,first from Wayfinder,and now, improved...Genius!
Listen to the Blue Yonder video below and you can figure out that 'Snowflake' has Genius all over it.
"VERSES Announces the First Wayfinder-Based AI Routing Agent" https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2023/06/26/2694144/0/en/VERSES-Announces-the-First-Wayfinder-Based-AI-Routing-Agent-for-Multi-System-Spatial-Computing.html
When Palantir came out of beta and started getting contracts,the stock price shot up to $45 in three months,after getting contract after contract.
It would be a serious mistake to take Verses lightly,as this is a gamechanger software trading at $1.37 today in while still in beta...
If Salesforce is somehow involved using Genius,they have 150,000 companies globally leveraging it's platform.
Verses will be charging by amount of usage.
Verses is just about ready to come out of beta,and according to the CEO,will be signing up more than half of their beta partners to contracts.
If Blue Yonder is one of them,that could be up to 3000 companies in one shot.
They could be getting a valuation of their Genius software done at any time,which would likely be in the billions.
Here is what can happen to SaaS companies that come out with gamechanger software that improve other companies' operations.
"3 Software Stocks to Own for Decades - The Globe and Mail" https://www.theglobeandmail.com/investing/markets/stocks/ZS/pressreleases/30829476/3-software-stocks-to-own-for-decades/
No, I agree. Some things feel sketchy. Verses, ILLR and POET all *appear* to pay for promotion online. I'm not saying this with certainty, but there's such blatant pumping. Even on stocktwits and X you'll notice pumping by same people...
Real marketing shouldn't rely on spamming. That's why I feel so unsure of how to proceed.
Part of the reason I bailed. What do we really know about this company? They're paying "influencers" like einstock and potential robinand7hoods. They over promise, underdeliver & dilute like crazy (doubled share count in under a year). If these guys weren't in AI would anyone take them seriously? They've bought credibility bringing Karl Friston on board, but it just seems too transparent what their doing now. Hope I'm wrong & y'all make a ton money on this.
I think it's a bot. Just put them on ignore.
If anyone is wondering if Verses is going to have set up a major headquarters before they launch,there are many software companies that operate strictly remote and are worth in the many billions of dollars.
Companies like GitLab,Atlassian,Coursera,Zapier,HubSpot,and InVision.
Unless they decide to get into their own hardware,this appears to be the plan for Verses.
If Genius starts to see mass adoption,the stock could get to any valuation.
Microsoft Windows and Google Search were both in beta for two years before being released.
Android was in beta for 10 months before being released.
Genius is right in line with those timeframes.
Next 2-3 months will see a lot of activity as Verses launches.
LLMs= Web 2.0
Genius= Web 3.0
AGI= Web 3.0
All you need to know...
The excessive posting is a bit much!
Robinandthe7hoods sounds just like Einstock.... I'd wager that he is compensated by Verses also.
So no response to whether you are being compensated by Verses?
So it has been stated by Gabriel Rene that Q2 sees the general public release of Genius.
For those questioning what Q2 is,just look at every Corporate Update in the press releases.
They all follow within a few days of the normal Jan-Mar/Apr-Jun/Jul-Sept/Oct-Dec periods...
2025 is going to be a special year for Verses.
Genius hasn't been released yet. Clearly, so when is that expected realistically? They will say something, then it changes. It's understandable that timelines change but you are posting nearly everyday. Makes me wonder.
Are you being compensated by Verses?
Open AI was nothing until it was released to the public in 2022,it was a lab project.
Genius hasn't been released yet.When it is,we'll see how it all shapes up.
When it gets released,that means some of the biggest companies in the world have given it their blessing.
Any chance of listing it in other exchanges?
The first salvo against the LLMs and copyright infringements?https://natlawreview.com/article/court-training-ai-model-based-copyrighted-data-not-fair-use-matter-law?trk=feed-detail_comments-list_comment-text
Blue Yonder have over 3000 customers in their supply chain business.
If Blue Yonder signs a contract with Verses,how many of the 3000 sign up?
At a modest(for supply chain software contracts) $100k average for Genius,if 1500-2000 sign up,that would be $200 million.
If they all sign up,we"re looking at upwards of $300 million just for Blue Yonder.
Big companies pay into the millions for supply chain software contracts .
Last year Gabriel Rene stated they were expecting $300-400 million in revenue in 2025.
Friston just did a Fireside Chat at Davos,moderated by Olivier Oullier.
What is the purpose of this one?
At the Centaurs AI Summit in Davos,Oullier was the Program Director.
The event Organizers were Biotech Dental Group and Inclusive Brains.
Oullier is the Chairman of Artificial Intelligence by Biotech Dental and CEO of Inclusive Brains.
Verses was one of the sponsors of the event.
Is this leading up to something?
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/oullier_biotechdays-biotechdental-dentalhealthcare-activity-7266793604013027328-Zw2E
News coming before Thursday's Fireside Chat?
Seems like recently the Out Standing shares went up from 24 M to 189.32M!!!! Company Cap also went up to around 182.6 M. Seems to be like catching up with other Giants!! :D
This week Verses is conducting an interview with Gabriel Rene and Dr Friston AND moderated by Olivier Oullier.
This is not an interview for penny-ante investors,as Friston speaks over most people's heads.
This is for more sophisticated investors and groups connected to Olivier Oullier.
Oullier has big connections to the WEF and the EU,but his most important connections are to the 'Dental Industry'.
Oullier is Chairman of the Institute For Artificial Intelligence by Biotech Dental.
Biotech Dental Group is the #1 dentistry in the EU and is known for its practice management software solutions,and was recently bought out by Henry Schein which supplies dental and medical products in 33 countries and has a market cap of almost $10 billion.
The dental market is worth over $40 billion today.
For anyone thinking this interview is a waste of time,they haven't figured out that it is targeted for certain groups and investors.
Friston is there to explain his particular AI and Rene is there to interpret it.
When Verses announced their public beta, they were looking for 10 companies.
There were 3500 entities that applied for the beta.
There are approximately 360 million companies in the world,plus however many developers besides that.
The Spatial Web will be up and running with Verses being the first Operating System.
With,agents and robotics,and AGI the big talking points in AI heading into 2025 and beyond,it'll be interesting to see the set up for Web 3.0,how and where Genius will become available and how fast the uptake will be.
What kind of promotion will be seen?What kinds of early contracts?
Spring and summer won't be dull
Appears Lockheed Martin has been in the beta program for at least a couple of months.
Who else that we don't know about yet?
Interesting that Verses just put out a PR stating they'll be having a fireside chat with both their CEO and chief scientist together,when they are actively hiring and are getting so close to launching Genius.
One of the topics is 'Genuis Role In The AI Stack'.
This is being used to promote Genius to the AI world that might be threatened by a superior competitor,but will clarify its unique ability to enhance other products,rather than usurp them.
This will then be available on the Verses website for companies researching possibilities with Genius.
They are laying all the groundwork for the launch.
There can be no doubt that Verses will really take off at some point.
If that wasn't the case,we wouldn't be seeing multi-million share days trading every day,while awaiting the right catalysts that will set this off.
Groups and traders are flipping for pennies,but nobody is going away.
We should see those catalysts begin in the next two months.
Looks like another gap to fill at $1.40.
Again, it's not out of beta,so it's not accessible to just anybody.
Open AI and Deepseek ,along with the other LLMs are readily available to proof,validate or refute any claims by or against the model by millions of people if they wish to download it for $10-20.
Verses is almost at the stage where it will be judged by contracts and sign-ups by developers.
How it will be available could make it a homerun when they announce it.
VERSES® Genius™ Outperforms DeepSeek R1 Model in Code-Breaking “Mastermind” Challenge
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2025/02/04/3020351/0/en/VERSES-Genius-Outperforms-DeepSeek-R1-Model-in-Code-Breaking-Mastermind-Challenge.html
People have to remember that Verses AI isn't even out of beta yet.
Meanwhile,Open AI and every other LLM is on version 3-4-5.
LLMs are also made for the average joe because they are search engines.
Genius is an operating system that will mainly be used by companies,engineers and developers.
February and March are going to be busy months as they ramp up for public release, signed contracts and a big financing.
LLMs have their own particular use,as does Genius.
Genius will be Google,Microsoft,and Apple,while LLMs will be Yahoo,Google Search,and Bing.
They will be used in tandem.
The interesting question is will Genius be available for all current devices owned by Apple, Google and Microsoft or will Genius sign with only one of them?
They seem to announce their Atari tests are done on MacBooks,but have Microsoft around them all the time.
Or,might they team up with an LLM and put out their own devices?
The most interesting news coming,imo,is which devices are going to be used and announced,because they have said they wanted to be an APP Store for developers,so can you do that on someone else's devices?
But,they are not a search engine,they are basically a robotics o/s,so what will the setup be with devices and which ones?
Lots to come in a short period of time,but not before they are out of beta.
The VERSES AI Inc. stock price fell by -8.74% on the last day (Friday, 31st Jan 2025) from $1.03 to $0.94. During the last trading day the stock fluctuated 9.57% from a day low at $0.94 to a day high of $1.03. The price has fallen in 6 of the last 10 days and is down by -35.17% for this period. Volume has increased on the last day by 50 thousand shares but on falling prices. This may be an early warning and the risk will be increased slightly over the next couple of days.
The stock lies in the lower part of a very wide and strong rising trend in the short term, and this may normally pose a very good buying opportunity. If the lower trend floor at $0.92 is broken, it will firstly indicate a slower rate of rising, but may also be an early warning for a trend shift. Given the current short-term trend, the stock is expected to rise 250.94% during the next 3 months and, with a 90% probability hold a price between $3.23 and $5.86 at the end of this 3-month period.
thats a long ways away for profit for this company coukd piyt my koney ekserrer
Yes, it's something to be mindful of with any conpany. How efficient one is with balancing debt, dilution and wasteful spending. Considering deepseek has more attention, Verses' marketing can't be that great.