Validian Corp fka VLDI

[The Penny Preacher]

Hi, mole, how are you?

So, you decided to stick your head up here for a while.

Figures.

you're a class act.

TPP

[skidog72]

Sorry..it would be against my PF rules to disclose that to you. But you keep digging TCL...you'll figure it out. 😂

[The Penny Preacher]

I don't know why June is so important, but I am sure you will tell me.

It certainly isn't the final possible deadline for anything I am hoping for, I can assure you.

In fact, I do not actually have a FINAL deadline beyond which Validian cannot go before I give up my shares.

I plan to hold them until Bruce makes me a zillionaire.

But, June would be nice.

TPP

[skidog72]

TICK TOCK!

JUNE IS COMING!!

[The Penny Preacher]

Considering that I almost shut my own forum down to protect Validian from a recent leak, and the fact that I permit 1/3 of the members to stay for free just so they can stay informed, you post is hilarious.

Thanks for the laugh.

TCL (The Cult Leader)
TPP

TOO FUNNY!!!

[The Penny Preacher]

I don't expect you to take my word for it. I expect you to be disciplined enough to actually read the Validian website, read the RASP website, and LOOK for the other websites that everyone on my forum has found.

And I expect you to have enough sense to realize that NO COMPANY and NO CEO of ANY COMPANY would spend almost three decades trying to scam investors just for the fun of it when he has absolutely no way to turn it into financial gain.

And I expect you to have enough sense to realize that NO COMPANY updates its website constantly three years after they have gone dark to hide what it is doing from its competitors unless it has made the progress it are touting on that site. Have you never asked yourself WHY Bruce has been so conscientious about it that he has even changed single words and phrases in the interest of keeping the site current?

And NO RATIONAL PERSON would look at the list of the most significant participants in the RASP project and be silly enough to ignore the fact that Validian has been on that list for at least five years. I don't care if they have not included any details about the company. If you want details READ THE COMPANY WEBSITE. Have you never asked yourself WHY the RASP project would continue to allow Validian's name to be associated with them if it is a scam or if VP doesn't actually work?

And NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would ignore the fact that Rafael Gorgal, one of the world's leading cybersecurity experts, is still deeply involved with Validian over five years after some of you on this forum touted that ridiculous interpretation of his email to surwin. Have you never asked yourself WHY he would still be around? You have never even thought to see if Rafael is actually still working with Validian, or if he is selling VP to his own clients, and if so, WHERE? REALLY?!?!?!?

And from those discoveries, I expected you to take individual claims from those sites and use them as the basis for DEEP Google searches until you found what the members of my forum have found. If WE DID IT, YOU CAN DO IT. The fact that my forum rules forbid me from doing it for you has not prevented me from TRYING to get you to do it for yourself. It isn't my fault that you gave up on that process. I keep repeating myself because you keep refusing to do what any reasonable person would do, KEEP LOOKING until you find WHAT IS THERE.

Make phone calls, write emails, send texts, do Google searches, REACH OUT TO OTHER INVESTORS WHO HAVE HUGE FORTUNES INVESTED AND MAY BE IN THE KNOW, until you find what you are looking for. WE DID IT ON THE PF, so don't tell me that YOU can't do it. It isn't that you CAN''T. YOU WON'T.

LOL, you couldn't even bothered with sending me an email to find out why and how you can still buy Validian stock even though they are on the Grays. That is how LITTLE you have been willing to do to find out the truth. So, don't dump your "Propaganda Pusher" nonsense on me. I have been sharing the truth, you are the one who is pushing the lies, and the whole world will know it soon enough.

BUCKLE UP! You are going to need it.

TPP

[skidog72]

He comes on here so as to squash down any of his former flock that have lost faith in the cult that is Validian. And to try and keep the ones he still has hold of from listening to Surwin. In GOT the popular phrase among the series was "Winter is coming". Well...in Validian's case "June is coming" and when it does pass by and your shares are still worth ZERO then you'll see a mutiny within the cult.

[VLDI Is DEAD]

More regurgitated nonsense from The Propaganda Pusher... Why are you even on this forum if you have nothing to share with any of us other than how you know it all and we know nothing? I never asked you do do my DD, however you are on a forum where investors share current news/info which you never do. You come on here and tell us all (for years now) any day, to just hold on with no supporting info to back up any of your claims. When we call you out or question you for not being able to share any proof to support your claims ever (not once), you defend yourself by telling the rest of us we are lazy or your NDA or some other lame excuse. You have been doing this for years but expect us to take your word for any value with no questions, now that is LOL and delusional. How many other folks on this forum also can NOT find any real info of value (I've seen many)? Are you saying all of us on this forum are lazy, foolish and delusional? But go ahead, keep at it with your insults and nonsense replies putting others down, including myself that are simply looking for info of substance and value (and current), it is in your nature as you have been doing it on this forum for years (to all of us). Any day now, just wait and see, our time is coming, but don't ask me how I know.. Sure Ronald McDonald.. Why not just shut your account down and let the rest of us that are here really looking for news be at peace. I'd rather never hear another thing about Validian again in my life than to read more of your BS posts, that hold no value, no real info, nothing... Go stick with your PF members and dozen of associates who are not PF members who are obviously all smarter than any of us as lazy, delusional folks... Dealing with you is INSANITY...doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, just like Validian itself. I can't wait... to either be rich or read your predictable reply, I think the latter will most definitely come first.

[The Penny Preacher]

Regarding my slide presentation, it is still the most accurate layman's presentation of the cybersecurity problem, and Validian as the ONLY real solution to that problem in existence anywhere, including anything that Validian has produced itself.

Regarding my refusal to do YOUR due diligence for you, I can't help it if you are too lazy to make phone calls or send emails or do a Google search, and too determined to believe your own foolishness to trust the things you already know about the company.

And, if you mean that the 49 members of the PF and the dozens of my associates who are not on the PF and who all know the current information are all imagining that they have found what you refuse to even look for that proves their investment is safe, you are delusional.

TPP

[VLDI Is DEAD]

It's your 3 year old BS... I'd love to read 3 day old info, but there is NONE.. unless your TPP then it's everywhere but not shareable to anyone but him... Unless you consider full pages of LOL's or PEP'S as recent info, but go ahead guy criticize my posts since you have nothing more to provide this forum...

[The Penny Preacher]

I prefer to rely on information that is only three days old.
Frankly, it never occurred to me to consider three-year-old information cutting-edge DD.
But, if that is the best you can find, it goes a long way toward explaining the rest of your posts.

TPP

[VLDI Is DEAD]

Here, I found great info, only 3 years old...LOL

[VLDI Is DEAD]

It is nice to see that nothing has changed here, still the same crap and still the same crap of Validian doing nothing. Everyone trying to get info out of TPP but he offers us nothing, just insults. Still playing the waiting game with the same just wait and see motto... It's getting old and honestly I give up, if something ever happens with this sham of a company then great, not like I have a choice, can't sell the stock anymore so whatever.

Why do any of you question TPP anymore?? He has no info to share if he has any info at all... POINTLESS REGURGITATION

[The Penny Preacher]

My mistake. Make that "the morning shift."

TPP

[Willy]

Why do you call the Chairman the night shift?

[The Penny Preacher]

Looks like the night shift has shown up. It was inevitable.

TPP

[The Chairman]

I stepped on my "rose-colored glasses" a long time ago.
I had a note with Validian, share grants, etc. I am/was a share holder of Ganthet.
BB has talked and talked until my ears bled. Been through a hundred "stealth mode" situations.
Over ten years...the definition of insanity applies.
The pitch continues

[The Penny Preacher]

Bye-Bye.

TPP

[Surwin]

Oh my God please take off the rose color glasses because you have gone blind!

Now I can definitely crawl back under my rock since there is no hope to save you from disappointment because you do not understand a sham and lies when you see them.

Ganthet, 100s of thousand App programmers, millions of endpoints, sales leads, list of expert endorsements and not one single ongoing revenue producing client and it is all according to plan 25 years later, LOL.

[The Penny Preacher]

Your problem has always been that you were judging, and continue to judge, Bruce's efforts from YOUR concept of success. You haven't spent five minutes in the past ten years trying to find out what Bruce was actually trying to do. Because of that, you have always been right about the frustration of the silence and the delays and 100% wrong about whether or not that silence and those delays were evidence of failure or success. You assumed that because they were not the way YOU would run the company, they were failures. And of course, had Bruce run Validian using your plan he could have sold Validian YEARS ago for a $billion or $two. And at that time we might have all moved on thankful that we made a few hundred thousand dollars in profits.

But, Bruce was ALWAYS thinking in terms of a buyout of high double-digit or even triple-digit $Billions. And therefore he insisted that he wasn't chasing $two billion, he was chasing $100 - $200 billion, if it was possible.

He may only reach half that, but one thing is certain, and should be certain even to you, that there is no PERFECT business plan, and what is success to one man can be failure to another, and vice versa. And, a $two Billion buyout might have been nice, but a $100 - $200 BIllion buyout is nicer by any standard. And I for one am THRILLED that Bruce didn't listen to any of us.

And once I discovered what he was trying to do (at about the time we went dark), I stopped fighting him. His plan is brilliant and always has been, and it will go down in the books for future generations to learn from. And, if I am correct, we ain't seen nuthin' yet.

But, you could never see beyond your own interpretation of his plan, to see what he was really trying to accomplish.

You were never able to see that you were right on all of your fundamental analysis and 100% wrong from day one because you were analyzing a business plan that never existed. No doubt, if you had ever understood what Bruce was trying to do, you would have been a true asset to this forum. But, IMO, as it was, your analysis was worse than useless, it was misleading, as surely as if you were giving a MSFT analysis to an Apple investor.

And sadly, I have no doubt, even when this is over and the whole world knows the truth, you will still try to claim that he did it all wrong, and he should have done it YOUR way. And no doubt, you will claim that you are the only one who played this stock like a professional, and the rest of us just lucked out.

That is the saddest part of the story.

TPP

[The Penny Preacher]

Believe me, everyone here knows the truth about your posts and Validian's imminent success.

Your micro-denials only make the whole thing more pathetic than it already is.

TPP

BUCKLE UP!!!

Oh, wait, you won't need to because you don't own any Validian stock so you aren't going on the trip with the rest of us.

Too bad, so sad.

ROTFL

[Surwin]

No real news in over 5 years since VLDI has gone dark, other than an updated Website with links that do not work Why is that? First Bruce didn't want to make sales he only wanted to sell the company. Now we should be impressed by obsbure mentions relating to RASP so I guess this plan didn't workout or it has changed again , LOL. . With AI and Quantum computing taking over the world and cybersecurity. VLDI does not have much of a chance of ever coming back from the grey markets.. I will now crawl back under my rock since it is obvious some will never take off their rose colored glasses.

[Surwin]

First I never commented on the technology over 10 years since that is beyond my expertise. I have made it perfectly clear over and over again that VLDI has not signed a single on going revenue producing client for the VP product in my history of me following this stock. of any significant magnitude. If I am wrong prove it! and where is the list of cyber security experts that you claim are endorsing the product?. And where is the link to the earth shattering public news on the product and why none of this information has been posted on VLDI website?

I never questioned the technology other than saying of all that tested the product no one never put VP into ongoing revenue producing service..

.You keep talking about companies that have tried VP and then changed their mind because it supposedly failed to do what Bruce says it can do. Yet, you have never posted one single company name or one single article that confirms your claim

Of course not because Bruce never provided their names and when question he claimed they were under NDAs and once they sign a agreement their names would be reveled. Guess what no names were ever revealed. Bruce did indicate over 8 years ago they had 20+ qualified leads and were getting close to agreements., which never happen.

These are facts and no company spends close to 25 years in developing a product that no one is using to this day in ongoing revenue producing service.

My proof is all the failure over the years in PRs indicating sales that never materialized. I would hate to list them all but with a lille DD you can find them!

[The Penny Preacher]

Let me guess...

If I am right, I get the I-Hub Guru of the Year award.

I can hardly wait.

TPP

[shapeman]

All I can say at this point is you have put everything on the line. All your chips are on the table. It’s do or die. Your reputation is at stake. If you are right, then it sounds imminent. I’ll even give you to the end of this year. If you are wrong, then anything you say will never be of value or taken seriously. I’m willing to hang out with you since I’ll be along side you since I never sold my shares. And if you’re wrong I’ll have to settle for a modest retirement. To me it’s a matter of credibility and motive. I’m buckled up but only until the end of the year. After that I’ll be considered a fool like many of us or foolishly lucky

[The Penny Preacher]

You know you have been making that bogus claim on this forum for almost ten years. And to this date, you have never posted a single source for your claim beyond the normal test, failure, tweak, and retest until success reports that one hears about EVERY software app during their development process. You foolishly act like those beta tests were the FINAL word on ValidianProtect. And then you conveniently completely ignore the RASP connection as though they actually are still failing every test and have no one remotely interested in using VP. And to support your insanity you try to downplay their involvement with RASP as though that is bogus just like your failure claims.

You keep talking about companies that have tried VP and then changed their mind because it supposedly failed to do what Bruce says it can do. Yet, you have never posted one single company name or one single article that confirms your claim. And even if you had one, you act like that would be the final word on VP's usefulness to a million other companies. That is truly hilarious and absolutely delusional. By that standard, if a company changes phones or software or computer models or types of vehicles, it can only mean that the ones they were using are total pieces of trash that are useless to the rest of the world. Do you have any idea how ridiculous that is?

DId it ever occur to you that most of those companies continued to work with VP for the next 3-5 years to perfect it for THEIR specific needs? Naaaah, the only possibility is that the second VP didn't function exactly as they wanted it to they trashed it. In what universe are software products ever developed that way?

That would be hilarious if your non-stop efforts to trash the company hadn't convinced others to abandon their positions, a decision that will soon cost them $millions.

News Flash, Sparky, there will ALWAYS be companies that try VP and decide that it isn't a perfect fit for their company and their needs. That is true right this second of CrowdStrike, Norton, McAfee, and a thousand other cybersecurity products. And no one in their right mind would make the claim that it is because they are useless pieces of trash. And ALL of those products have zero-day vulnerabilities that make them guaranteed to eventually fail, But no one is foolish enough to make the claim they don't have a market.

All you have ever posted is your pathetic email from Rafael Gorgal from six or seven years ago. Do you REALLY think that is Rafael's final word on ValidianProtect? REALLY? What about the PR where he qualified his view? What about his CONTINUED WORK with VP for the past five years? You act like none of that is real? What about the FACT that Gorgal is STILL helping Bruce perfect VP? And he is STILL helping him market it? Oh, yeah. I forgot, you don't know about any of that because your DUE DILIGENCE hasn't come across any of those FACTS yet.

Due Diligence? Don't make me laugh.

If you have put the same amount of effort into finding the truth about your other investments, I can't imagine how you have ever made a dime. It must have been pure dumb luck.

Well, I am happy to say that all of this nonsense is going to end soon, and the whole world (and you) will know just how ridiculous your ten years of nonsense have been.

TPP

BUCKLE UP, SPARKY, AND HOLD ON TIGHT.
CUZ THIS PUPPY IS GOING TO THE MOON!!!

[Surwin]

The facts a clear just open your eyes. failure after failure after 25 years. I could list time again but do your DD and you will find Them.

[The Penny Preacher]

Keep saying it. surwin, I am sure it will make all of the evidence to the contrary magically disappear. All you have to do is just close your eyes, and click your heels together, and keep saying, Everyone else is wrong...Everyone else is wrong...Everyone else is wrong.

BTW, have you considered actually doing some REAL due diligence on Validian to find the evidence we have all found?

NAAAAAH, that would make too much sense. Keep trashing the company with your nonsense, that is the best choice.

I especially love the fact that you started your barrage this week, of all weeks. PERFECT!!!

TOO FUNNY!!!

TPP

Boy, are you going to look silly.

BUCKLE UP, SPARKY!!!

AND HOLD ON TIGHT.

[Surwin]

Of course it is a secret . I remember a long time ago when Bruce was talking to me and accepting my emails he stated that his goal was to provide the service for free under NDAs and then when contracts were signed release the clients names along with their great reviews of the product.

[Surwin]

Yes, they are all wrong to those that keep saying the same thing like VLDI is worth billions.and refuse to allow the true facts sink in. There is nothing to support VLDI is worth anything just to the contrary,there is a PR history of sales that never materialized to produce ongoing revenue .Posts from over 7 years ago painting a rosy picture which to this day has not materialized. Of course they say the same thing because the truth does not change,.especially when supported by the facts. So once again why not provide links to the earth shattering DD you claim you have found? Why hasn't VLDI included this information on its website if it is so significant? Where is the list of world class cybersecurity experts endorsing VLDI? Smoke and mirrors.

[Willy]

It's all secret.

[The Penny Preacher]

WOW, surwin, you are on a roll...14 posts in one day that all say the same thing...and they are all wrong...I think that is a record, even for you.

Thanks for the laughs, though.

I haven't had this much fun in years.

LOLOLOLOLOLO

TPP

BUCKLE UP!!!

[shapeman]

Yes Willy. It says that. But who wrote that? Anonymous?

[Surwin]

There is a very good reason VLDI went to the Grey Market it was not by chance.

[Surwin]

Yes I saw that one too but click on Validian and it says " No user reviews and no integrations"!

Integrations
No Integrations at this time

Reviews
No User Reviews. Be the first to provide a review:

WOW after 20+ year of developing the best cybersecurity in the world I would expect a lot more, wouldn't you!

[Surwin]

This too is old news from over 7 years ago and I addressed that when it actually came out. I actually communicated directly with him on the Alpha website. . Guess what he was wrong then and he is wrong now since 7 years later and nothing!

[Surwin]

Really a review by a small real estate business carries significant cyber security threats for hacks?. I would be surprise if they get one attempt per year. The disappointing news is this is from eight years ago and nothing since them.

Show me a named company like a bank or stock brokerage business or anything that get a few thousand hits per month from users. Then you might have something.to talk about after over 20 years of developing the VP product. .

[Surwin]

Not my position just the facts supported by DD.

[Willy]

https://slashdot.org/software/runtime-application-self-protection-rasp/windows/

[Willy]

https://www.streetwisereports.com/article/2017/11/16/could-your-car-be-hacked-this-micro-cap-may-have-the-solution.html

Could Your Car Be Hacked? This Micro-Cap May Have the Solution
Contributed Opinion

Source: Michael Sheikh for Streetwise Reports (11/16/17)

Michael SheikhThe many computer connections in cars make them vulnerable to hacking, says Michael Sheikh, founder of Falcon Strategic Research, who profiles a small company whose software takes a radically different approach to cybersecurity.
Validian Corp. (VLDI:OTCQB) is uniquely poised to protect major investments in the automotive sector that are one hack away from enormous liability. Just this week, Uber announced its intent to do a $10 billion deal with SoftBank, a Japanese conglomerate.

[Willy]

one small real estate brokers comments,

I don't believe it matters that it was just one small RE office I believe the significance is in the final statement.
Cons: I find NO, Zero flaws with the Product! After two years of testing this product and putting the highest hacker technology into play there is No penetrable way to break through the VLDI wall!!

[The Penny Preacher]

I find it totally fascinating that you seem to think that if you keep repeating your position in different ways over and over and over and over and over and over again, it will make all of the evidence of Validian's success that we have found on the PF suddenly disappear. That is really interesting. Not rational, but very interesting.

TPP

BUCKLE UP, SPARKY!!! WE ARE ABOUT TO GO TO DA MOON.

WELL, SOME OF US ARE.

ROTHFL

[Surwin]

Can't answer my questions really! Yes some one is going to buy VLDI for billions based a one small real estate brokers comments, That is a real laugh.

[The Penny Preacher]

I rest my case...

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[Surwin]

No need since Rafael is no longer working as a forensic cyber security expert.

[Surwin]

No need to do that since you can't answers my simply questions. No one needs to post the past since it is still the same today.

Why can't VLDI list like other RASPs a client list on major companies using its product? . Instead they post no integration

Where is the list of world class cyber security experts endorsing VP.?

Why is neither list on the VLDI website?

[Surwin]

You can't even post one real company producing ongoing revenue for Validian

[Surwin]

Yes and when you click on Validian what does it say. "No integrations listed."

[Surwin]

Yes I saw that one and it is exactly what I stated a small operation not a large enterprise solution. VLDI never recorded any ongoing revenue from this product even 8 years ago. So by now you would expect hundred of thousand of clients and big enterprise companies not a small real estate broker. This is not worth Billions.

[Surwin]

Why not answer my questions then, which are legitimate questions, instead of your romberoom response. I provide my DD which proves my position. I guess you can't and that is why a 2 year old response. ..